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    How Liberals Tried to Kill the Dream of Single-Payer

    Prominent progressives have undercut a cherished policy goal of the left. They’re wrong on both the politics and the economics.

    BY ADAM GAFFNEY
    March 8, 2016

    Jonathan M. Metzl is the Director of the Center for Medicine, Health, and Society; and a Professor of Sociology and Psychiatry, Vanderbilt University.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/131251/liberals-tried-kill-dream-single-payer

    Around the time that the insurgent campaign of Bernie Sanders hit its stride, a chorus of liberal pundits and economists began to coalesce around a decidedly grim message for the 60 million people in America who remain either uninsured or underinsured: Give up on your pipe dream.

    The liberal retreat on single-payer is in line with a long history of centrist Democratic thinking that haplessly confuses rearguard action with political vision.

    Single-payer, Paul Krugman wrote in one of a series of posts in January, “isn’t a political possibility,” and is in fact “just a distraction from the real issues.” Last week in the American Prospect, sociologist Paul Starr went further in describing single-payer as a “hopeless crusade for a proposal that will go down to defeat again, as it has every time it has come up before.” And in an earlier article, he argued that even if single-payer was possible, other priorities should take precedence. Hillary Clinton is on the record agreeing with such sentiments: As she put it, single-payer “will never, ever come to pass.”

    Single-payer universal health care, in other words, is dead on arrival. Time to move on.

    Their essential arguments are twofold: Single-payer reform is politically impossible on the one hand, and economically infeasible on the other. However, they are very wrong on both counts. The first argument rests on a severely impoverished political vision, the second on inexcusably flawed economic and policy assumptions. Though the Sanders campaign is facing increasingly daunting obstacles to the Democratic nomination, the American health care question is not going anywhere. These criticisms therefore require greater dissection and contestation—before they congeal as the conventional wisdom.

    Let’s first admit the obvious: The political terrain for transformational health care reform is currently quite adverse. A single-payer bill would encounter colossal resistance from, for instance, the health insurance lobby, which is understandably in no great rush to be legislated off the face of the planet (nor does the pharmaceutical industry look forward to long-avoided price negotiations with the government). It’s also true that a Democratic sweep of both houses of Congress is unlikely in the coming election. And Democrats are, in any event, divided on the issue, as this primary election demonstrates.

    To proceed, however, from an admission of these facts to an acceptance that the cause should be abandoned is to concede the contest before the first shot has been fired. This is something the Democratic Party has excelled at—with disastrous consequences—for decades. Conservatives, in contrast, have been far more willing to adopt ambitious, long-range political goals, even when contemporaneous political forces are arrayed against them.

    As Daniel Stedman Jones describes in his Masters of the Universe: Hayek, Friedman, and the Birth of Neoliberal Politics, the articulation of an initially unpopular, highly ambitious, anti-New Deal “neoliberal” program—outlined and promoted in the decades following World War II by economists like Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman and associated think tanks—took decades to “bear fruit.” But when political and economic circumstances changed in the 1970s, conservatives had an ambitious program ready to launch, and the right-wing revolutions of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher could begin in earnest. From the 1980s onward, Jones writes, Hayek’s early “ideological vision” became reality with a vengeance:

    The free market became the organizing principle for microeconomic reform … Trade unions were vanquished and the power of labor was diluted … Market mechanisms became the models for the operation of health care … The purity that Hayek advocated was meant as an optimistic and ideological and intellectual tactic rather than a blueprint. The results have been extraordinary.

    In the years since Reagan and Thatcher, conservatives have had continued success in pushing the political center—on economic, if not social, issues—further and further rightward. Yet just as the right marched forward to the drum of Hayek, liberals have far too often been content to passively follow behind, albeit while maintaining something of a respectable distance. Nowhere is this clearer than in health care.

    This story is well known and often told: Many—perhaps most—of the key provisions of the Affordable Care Act are derived from (formerly) conservative health policy proposals. As the sociologist Jill Quadagno describes in a 2014 article in the Journal of Health Politics, Policy and Law, the ACA’s “employer mandate” was drawn from Nixon’s 1974 “Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan” (itself a counterproposal to Ted Kennedy’s single-payer plan). Meanwhile, the individual mandate was first articulated by Stuart Butler at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. And by 1993, Republicans in Congress were proposing a bill (the Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act, or HEART Act) that, as she puts it, had “nearly identical” provisions to the ACA, including “an individual mandate, an employer mandate, a standard benefit package, state-based purchasing exchanges, subsidies for low-income people, [and] efforts to improve efficiency…” (She also does note a few differences, most prominently the ACA’s Medicaid expansion, which is by far the law’s most beneficial provision.)

    Yet like Nixon’s 1974 bill, the 1993 Republican embrace of this individual mandate-based plan was provoked, in part, less by an earnest desire to expand health coverage than by a legitimate fear of single-payer reform. The economist Mark Pauly—one of the authors of a slightly earlier version of an individual mandate-based plan prepared with the hope of enticing the first Bush administration—acknowledged this in a 2011 interview with Ezra Klein at The Washington Post: The idea was to deflect “the specter of single-payer insurance,” as he told Klein.

    Today, of course, Republicans are no longer afraid of the menace of single-payer, for a perfectly good reason: The mainstream of the Democratic Party has largely abandoned it. As Steven Brill noted in America’s Bitter Pill: Money, Politics, Backroom Deals, and the Fight to Fix Our Broken Healthcare System, when the Democratic Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus began formulating a health care agenda after the election of President Obama, he was clear about “one thing” above all else: His proposal would not look like single-payer. Instead, Baucus’s plan would, as Brill writes, be a “moderate plan … that could attract bipartisan support.” Yet despite this massive concession to (or embrace of) conservative health care principles, the ACA failed miserably in attracting bipartisan support: It didn’t even earn a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate. So much for the much-vaunted politics of compromise.

    Today, Republicans have by and large abandoned earlier “moderate” positions on health care, and instead tried to lamely recycle various tired nostrums—Health savings accounts! Insurance across states lines! Medicare vouchers!—to a weary nation. Yet the net effect of this push and pull has meant that the health care center has veered rightward to a striking degree, such that today, liberals like Starr and Krugman contend that a law that is largely the same as the Republican HEART Act from the early 1990s should—with perhaps a few tweaks down the road—form the core of our health care system.

    Republicans are no longer afraid of the menace of single-payer, for a perfectly good reason: The mainstream of the Democratic Party has largely abandoned it.
    The liberal retreat on single-payer is in line with a long history of centrist Democratic thinking that haplessly confuses rearguard action with political vision. Passing a federal single-payer bill would, no doubt, necessitate key electoral victories, a powerful campaign at the governmental level, and a formidable grassroots struggle. Useful initial steps in this direction might include the election of a president determined to pass single-payer, the restoration of single-payer to the platform of the Democratic Party, and vigorous support for such reform by pundits and scholars in high places. That none of these things may wind up happening is a cause of the alleged political “impossibility” of single-payer—not its result.

    This brings me to the second of the two core arguments of the single-payer naysayers: “Medicare-for-all” would come at a price we simply cannot afford. The most recent iteration of this argument traces back to Kenneth Thorpe, an economist at Emory University, who published an analysis asserting that the Sanders plan (itself based on calculations of the economist Gerald Friedman, who has also taken a lot of criticism from Krugman and others for his optimistic economic projections under a President Sanders) would be about twice as expensive as his campaign has argued. Thorpe’s numbers spread like wildfire: After being initially reported and evaluated by Dylan Matthews at Vox, they’ve been cited by Starr, Krugman, the editorial board of The Washington Post, and basically everybody else. “[H]is health-care plan rests on unbelievable assumptions,” noted the Post, “about how much he could slash health-care costs without affecting the care ordinary Americans receive.”

    But there are many ways to look at the issue of single-payer financing. David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler, health policy professors at the City University of New York School of Public Health and lecturers in medicine at Harvard Medical School, efficiently took apart Thorpe’s numbers in two point-by-point by critiques. To get into the nitty gritty of the major errors in Thorpe’s economic assumptions, I’d direct readers to their article at the Huffington Post. And notably, as they describe in The Hill, Thorpe had himself previously found single-payer to be entirely affordable—indeed, he once asserted that it would reduce costs even as it expanded coverage.

    Friedman, Thorpe, and Starr have also engaged in an exchange at the Prospect about these issues. In truth, it seems that more economic analysis may be needed with respect to the precise mix of taxes that are necessary. But the reality is that the specific taxes laid out in Sanders’s slim single-payer proposal are relatively unimportant at the current time; they would have to undergo significant reexamination and revision as the proposal was transformed into an actual bill. At this stage, it’s more useful to take a step back and look at the debate over the affordability of single-payer in more general terms, by asking three larger questions. First, what new costs would a single-payer system generate? Second, what savings would single-payer deliver? And third, could the new costs roughly balance the savings?

    First, when speaking about new costs, I mean actual new expenses, not existing private expenditures that become public expenditures. The difference is crucial: with the proper mix of progressive taxes, the transition from private to public spending can be achieved without imposing any economic burden on the non-affluent (and indeed, lightening it for many). But actual new expenses, in contrast, can be seen as a legitimate source of real “new spending.”

    For instance, according to the latest estimates from the National Center for Health Statistics, some 29 million people were uninsured in 2015. Covering these individuals requires cash. It’s worth pointing out, however, that many of these individuals are already using health care, with some of the costs either coming out of their own pockets or being passed on to other public or private payers. Replacing those existing expenditures will have zero effect on overall national health spending. At the same time, many of these individuals are, sadly, currently forgoing health care, and to the extent that universal health care allows them to go to the doctor or get tests or medicines they’ve so far been avoiding, some new money will indeed need to be spent.

    Second, proposals for “Medicare-for-all” usually call for the elimination of cost sharing, which is to say no copayments, deductibles, and co-insurance. I’d argue that this is an essential aspect of real universal health care (with some notable exceptions, such payments are absent from the systems of Canada and the United Kingdom). The harms of such payments are all too real: As a result of out-of-pocket exposure, an analysis of survey findings published by the Commonwealth Fund last year put the number of underinsured Americans—the insured who lack sufficient coverage against the cost of medical care—at 31 million in 2014. Though discarding such out-of-pocket payments might sound like a pricey proposition, to the extent that these monies are already being spent, their elimination would be a wash, with no net effect on overall national health expenditures. But again, as is the case with the uninsured, insofar as some individuals and families are avoiding health care because of out-of-pocket payments, the elimination of these financial barriers would result in some real increases in health care utilization.

    There are some other points to be made (like the additional costs of providing universal long term care and dental care), but in reality these two items—covering the uninsured and improving coverage for the underinsured—are the main new costs that a single-payer national health program would have to cover. Taking that into consideration, is single-payer indeed “unaffordable”?

    To answer, we have to look at the opposite side of the equation, at the potential for efficiency savings in such a transition. And clearly, the biggest source of savings is the reduction of the vast bureaucratic apparatus that undergirds the entirety of the health care system, as Himmelstein and Woolhandler emphasize (and have studied in depth). This “apparatus” is devoted to such critical tasks as the compilation of lengthy itemized hospital bills, the pursuit of medical debtors, the design of needlessly complex yet shoddy insurance products, the issuance of bills to innumerable payers, the endless clinical documentation necessary to generate proper payment from insurers, and so forth. Overall, this represents a massive, parasitic drain on the American economy. And so, too, does our unnecessarily high pharmaceutical expenditures. But it is, in particular, the issue of administrative savings that has received insufficient attention in discussions on health care reform.

    Frustration with the lack of accurate discussion around such savings (and around single-payer more generally) led several physicians—including myself, Andrea Christopher (a fellow in general medicine at Harvard Medical School), Himmelstein, and Woolhandler—to organize an open letter contesting this crystallizing critique of single-payer. The letter was published in February in the Huffington Post, and has been signed by more than 920 physicians and medical students. It makes this bottom-line point about the balance of savings and costs:

    We devote 31 percent of medical spending to administration, vs. 16.7 percent in Canada—a difference of $350 billion annually. And single-payer systems in Canada, the U.K., and Australia all use their bargaining clout to get discounts of 50 percent from the prices drug companies charge our patients. The potential savings on bureaucracy and drugs are enough to cover the uninsured, and to upgrade coverage for all Americans—a conclusion affirmed over decades by multiple analysts, including the Congressional Budget Office and the Government Accountability Office.

    Moreover, our letter notes that expansions of health coverage have historically been accomplished without massive increases in health care utilization: Essentially, doctors devote more attention to those who are sick and somewhat less to those who are well, resulting in relatively modest increases in health care use. “Experience in many nations over many decades,” we conclude, “provides convincing evidence that single-payer reform is both medically necessary and economically advisable.”

    We can, in other words, afford to provide comprehensive health care to everyone in the nation, free at the point of use, with “one large network” of physicians and hospitals available to all. Currently existing private spending will be largely replaced by public spending, which would require a mix of new taxes. Overall health spending would stay roughly say the same, though future cost increases could be much better controlled. The number of the uninsured would fall from some 29 million to near zero. At the same time, the rest of us who are already insured would be able to stop worrying about which providers are in- or out-of-network, whether or not a doctor’s visit or a medication is worthwhile in light of a steep copayment, how to decipher a daunting medical bill, or the loss of coverage that might accompany dismissal from a job, loss of a partner, or the descent into poverty. This, to me, seems like a very good bargain.

    Paul Starr, who (as noted) has penned several recent articles dismissing single-payer (as well as blasting Sanders’s candidacy more broadly), is perhaps most famous for his Pulitzer Prize-winning 1982 book The Social Transformation of American Medicine. It’s a book that I read as a first-year medical student, and that has shaped my understanding of the American health care system greatly. In it, he traces the emergence of the American medical profession, and follows how our failure to publicly organize the health system gave way to the rise of a “corporate medical enterprise,” a sector—as he notes in the final chapter—that is “likely to aggravate inequalities in access to health care.” Clearly, this has come to pass.

    But I wish to conclude by turning to the very first words of the book. “The dream of reason did not take power into account,” the book begins. “The dream was that reason, in the form of the arts and sciences, would liberate humanity from scarcity and the caprices of nature, ignorance and superstition, tyranny, and not least of all, the diseases of the body and the spirit.” Power—whether of the medical profession or of the corporatized organizations that have since superseded it—complicated the fulfillment of the dream.

    The dream, however, is not yet dead. With respect to health, the idea that all lives should be as long and as healthy as is possible—a vision that can only be fulfilled by the universal and equal provision of the very best that modern medical science has to offer—still burns bright. But now, in twenty-first century America, it is not just conservatives, but many liberals, who are among the powerful standing in opposition to its fulfillment.

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    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/02/colin-kaepernick-robert-griffin-rg3-trade-future
    Mar. 3, 2016
    The End is Near for Flawed QBs Griffin and Kaepernick

    At the top of the game four years ago, the fall back to reality has been fast and infuriating for Robert Griffin III and Colin Kaepernick. Both players face uncertainty in 2016 and the future doesn’t look any better
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    Carson Wentz and Jared Goff were the two most-discussed quarterbacks at the combine last week. Right behind them were Robert Griffin and Colin Kaepernick. Just four years removed from RG3 winning Offensive Rookie of the Year and Kaepernick piloting an NFC championship team, both find themselves at the center of trade talks. Griffin was pushed there by his team, Kaepernick by his agents. (It’s unknown whether San Francisco will act on his request.)

    Griffin, with his astronomical $16.15 million 2016 salary, almost certainly will be released prior to March 9, when his salary becomes fully guaranteed. Kaepernick’s salary is $11.9 million on an embarrassingly team-friendly contract that can be voided with little penalty before April 1. Or, rather, it could have been. Kaepernick’s current injury situation presents complications here (more on that later).

    At face value, the idea of acquiring Griffin or Kaepernick seems enticing. Both are young, big-name quarterbacks with prior NFL success. But experienced quarterbacks don’t become available unless they’re flawed. And given these flaws, I believe it’s likely they’ll be out of the league before either wins another 10 games.

    The Kaepernick Case

    First off, let’s ask why he is requesting a trade. The fresh start he needs seemingly found him when the Niners hired head coach Chip Kelly, whose system is built for a mobile quarterback.

    But it’s also a system built on quick decision-making, which is far from Kaepernick’s forte. Kaepernick is slow to process coverages (when he processes them at all) and doesn’t have a great feel for moving around in the pocket. Kaepernick can be hard to catch when he runs around, but too many of his run-around plays are fruitless because they never should have been run-around plays to start.

    Staying patient in a crowded pocket has never been a strength for Colin Kaepernick.

    Too often Kaepernick will look to abandon the pocket the instant he reaches the top of his dropback. Coaches hate this because it nullifies the play’s route designs. It can also create pressure where none existed. If you’re breaking down and moving at the top of your drop, the primary place to move is up in a pocket that hasn’t fully formed, putting you closer to interior pass rushers and compromising the room you have for stepping into throws. Or, you can move laterally, out of the pocket, which puts defensive ends in play. Remember, offensive tackles can’t see the quarterback; they’re blocking under the assumption that he’ll be in the pocket. When the quarterback flees, his technique and his blockers’ techniques are likely to break down. Also, the throwing windows and angles are altered, which often leads to minus results.

    And then there is Kaepernick’s poor understanding for why certain plays are called. Case in point: multiple times in recent years, the Niners have opened a game with a simple fullback flare pass to the flat. It’s a play you call to get your QB comfortable and to put yourself in at least second-down-and-medium right out of the gates. There isn’t a more basic concept in pro football. Unfortunately, Kaepernick, several times, has failed to pull the trigger on these throws, opting instead to kick off the game with a randomized, sandlot throw. That he’s repeated this mistake more than once is baffling, especially considering that he threw an interception in this scenario on the first play of the Raiders game two years ago. (The Niners went on to lose that one.)

    If a nearly four-year starting quarterback can’t be trusted to even attempt—let alone complete—something like a fullback flare on the game’s first play, then he can’t be trusted. You can’t construct, let alone perfect, a passing attack with such instability.

    All of these flaws speak to an ill understanding of basic progression reads and coverage diagnostics, as well. Because if Kaepernick consistently knew what he was looking at on his dropbacks, there’s no way his pocket poise and decision-making would be so erratic. Adding to this: when Kaepernick does play with patience, he has a tendency to be late with the ball or to flat-out leave open receivers untargeted.

    Given their flaws, I believe it’s likely both Griffin and Kaepernick will be out of the league before either wins another 10 games.

    Could Kelly adjust to accommodate Kaepernick? Perhaps. But that runs counter to the way Kelly historically has done business. Besides, Kelly could argue that his approach makes a QB an inherently quicker decision-maker. By getting to the line and snapping the ball so promptly, Kelly’s offense hinders an opponent’s ability to disguise coverages. The defense barely has time to get set. This creates predictable looks, aiding a quarterback’s sense of passing anticipation.

    However, Part B of Kaepernick’s issues is that he has an elongated throwing motion. This isn’t necessarily the worst thing. After all, no one can argue that as a pure arm talent, Kaepernick, when he’s mechanically sound and decisive (which is not often enough), is as impressive as almost anyone in the league. But elongated motions jibe with slower-developing downfield plays, not with the quick-hitting, snap decision-making that Kelly’s scheme demands.

    The Niners brass presumably does not believe the advantage from Kelly’s unique approach can offset Kaepernick’s weaknesses. Because why else would Kaepernick be asking for a trade? Unless his advisors are complete morons, Kaepernick’s only rationale for wanting out of the rare offense that caters to his mobility is if he believes he won’t be the one running that offense come September. Kaepernick’s camp is reading San Francisco’s writing on the wall.

    Complicating matters is that Kaepernick is still recovering from surgeries on his shoulder, knee and thumb. What makes his contract team-friendly is that it can be voided without penalty any time before April 1. That is, unless he’s not healthy. Presumably, the Niners would love for doctors to clear Kaepernick now, putting the option of cutting him back on the table. And Kaepernick, presumably, would love to stay on the mend until after April 1, making his 2016 salary guaranteed.

    But remember, the Niners most likely believe Kaepernick cannot be The Guy. Which means if he is on the roster in 2016, he could very well get the treatment that Washington gave RG3 in 2015. Once he was in Kirk Cousins’s rearview mirror, Griffin became nothing more than a liability. Had he suffered an injury that carried into this offseason, the NFL’s fifth-year option rule would have made his $16.15 million salary in ’16 fully guaranteed. So, Washington, playing it safe and smart, kept Griffin off the active roster.

    Kaepernick’s shoulder injury could ultimately keep him—and his $15.9 million cap number—on the books in 2016. Rather than risk swallowing that bitter pill again in 2017, the Niners could entrench Kaepernick on the bench and out of harm’s way.
    The RG3 Outlook

    Let’s keep some perspective here: if Griffin were a decent player, he would not have been ostracized in ’15. Griffin’s weakness showed up glaringly after he returned from his knee injury in 2013 and worsened as defenses saw more of him.

    Headlining Griffin’s problems was that he had little to no pocket refinement (among other issues). It’s not enough to simply make throws from the pocket. In fact, in an offense as well-designed and as heavily predicated on play-action as Washington’s, throws from the pocket can be routine because so many of the reads are clearly defined. But straightforward passing designs and play-action tend to happen on first or second down, when the threat of a run is still there and the defense is in a vanilla coverage. Most NFL games, however, are decided by what happens on third down.

    Robert Griffin III’s slight frame hasn’t been able to stand up to the hits he’s taken when straying outside the pocket.

    It’s here where Griffin’s shortcomings really show up. Too often when he moves in the pocket, he covers too much ground, compromising his readiness to throw. This also hurts the pass protection, as the exaggerated movement can put him closer to pass rushers who wouldn’t have been factors. And it lengthens the time it takes to wind up and release the ball.

    Adding to Griffin’s physical lack of pocket subtlety and nuance is his limited comprehension of how routes relate to certain coverages. Time and again in 2014, Griffin failed to identify some of football’s most basic route combinations. There were even cases of his defined reads—that is, plays that present just one obvious place for the ball to go—being ignored. Head coach Jay Gruden or offensive coordinator Sean McVay would call a pass and have no idea whether it would be executed correctly. Worse, neither would the receivers. How can you coach a dangerous but frankly emotionally unpredictable guy like DeSean Jackson if he’s getting open but not seeing the ball?

    Tying into all of this was a lack of anticipation in Griffin’s passing. In the NFL, you don’t necessarily have to sense receivers being open before they are, but it makes a world of difference if you can. And, naturally, there are a handful of routine plays each game that call for a little bit of anticipation. But Griffin, with his limited understanding of coverage-and-route relationships, never had an opportunity to develop any anticipation. And if you can’t develop it on your own, you can’t develop it at all. Most coaches agree: anticipation is one of the few quarterbacking traits that cannot be taught.

    Exacerbating matters for Griffin is that Gruden shied away from the zone-read game that had bolstered him as a rookie. Gruden felt the 6-foot-2, 223-pounder could not endure much beating. Defenses had always been extra physical against Griffin because he had no feel for protecting himself. Most the hits he took had a double-dip return: one from the hit itself, the other from when his body splattered to the ground. Griffin doesn’t have Cam Newton’s size or Russell Wilson’s compactness. He’s a gangly, exposed runner. This realization was the coup de grace to his NFL career.

    * * *

    In talking casually with dozens of coaches throughout combine week, there were two camps of ideology on Griffin and Kaepernick: in one camp were those who don’t think they can play in the NFL (more coaches felt this way about Griffin than Kaepernick); in the other were those who think they can play but don’t know in which system.

    Of course, it only takes one team’s final decision-maker to roll the dice. Which is why we probably won’t see the last of either QB in 2016. But as far as RG3 or Kaepernick being a team’s clear-cut starting quarterback? We’ve absolutely seen the last of that.

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    I just can’t help myself. Honestly, this is just really a way for me to justify sitting in front of my pc every spring reading about these guys.

    15: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2079755/vernon-hargreaves-iii

    Player Overview
    It isn’t often that a true freshman comes into the SEC and is an immediate standout, but that’s precisely what Hargreaves accomplished in 2013, earning first team All-SEC honors from the media and league coaches after tying Janoris Jenkins’ freshman record at Florida with 11 pass breakups and intercepting three passes.

    He was even better as a sophomore, leading the conference with 13 pass breakups and intercepting another three passes, including one in the end zone with just 1:20 remaining to seal Florida’s Birmingham Bowl win over East Carolina. A finalist for the Thorpe Award in 2015, Hargreaves earned All-SEC honors for a third straight season as a junior with a career-high four interceptions,

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: It is hard not to gush about Hargreaves as he combines quickness, balance and route-recognition to excel in coverage with rare physicality and open-field tackling ability to be just as effective in run support and when blitzing off the corner. He possesses good size for the position with a compact, athletic frame.

    When lining up in press man coverage, Hargreaves gets a stiff initial punch in on the receiver at the snap and shows good balance and light feet dropping into coverage, fluidly changing direction and the acceleration to remain in the hip pocket of receivers. He’s equally effective in off coverage, reading the quarterback’s eyes and breaking quickly downhill to disrupt passes. Hargreaves’ lack of height is mitigated by impressive body control, timing and competitiveness in jump-ball situations. He possesses excellent hand-eye coordination to slap the ball away as it arrives as well as good hands for the interception (six in two seasons).

    Scouts will also appreciate that unlike some of the other highly regarded defensive backs throughout the country, Hargreaves is far from just a cover corner. He’s very aggressive in run support, fighting his way through blocks and showing zero hesitation in taking on bigger ballcarriers. On most occasions, Hargreaves makes the effective stop, often significantly cutting short the yards gained in impressive fashion.

    WEAKNESSES: An inch or two shorter than scouts would prefer, which shows up too often on film. Hargreaves can get himself in trouble by attacking ballcarriers too high, clawing at the football while ‘rassling opponents to the ground rather than wrapping up and driving them to the turf. He also takes such aggressive angles in pursuit that he can be forced to lunge at ballcarriers, occasionally missing as he swipes at their legs.

    Needs to improve his cushion and spacing, allowing his eyes to spend too much time in the backfield.

    IN OUR VIEW: Hargreaves plays with a decisive reactor to maintain proper positioning and make plays on the ball (38 career passes defended), but his timing and spacing have room for improvement. Although he has only ordinary size, Hargreaves is above average in three main areas for the position: play speed, instincts and competitive toughness.

    NFL COMPARISON: Joe Haden, Cleveland Browns — More than just the Florida jersey, Hargreaves and Haden are similar in that they aren’t the biggest or fastest but both exhibit the instincts and competitive toughness needed for the NFL.

    –Rob Rang & Dane Brugler (2/9/16)

    43: Kevin Dodd – DE, Clemson

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1983517/kevin-dodd

    Player Overview
    With Shaq Lawson commanding most of the attention at right defensive end, Dodd was able to blossom at left defensive end in his first year as a starter. He finished the 2015 season with 23.5 tackles for loss and 12.0 sacks, which ranked second on the team behind Lawson. A relative unknown prior to the 2015 season, Dodd made the most of his starting opportunity and is an ascending NFL prospect.

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Passes the eye test with the quickness and power blend to win the edge, showing development throughout last season with this hand technique and timing. Shows terrific initial quickness to beat tackles and guards, as well as the agility and balance to get skinny to penetrate the gap between them.

    His quick, strong hands allow him to rip his way through would-be blocks and he uses his long arms to lasso ballcarriers. Improved discipline and patience to hold back-side contain, stack the edge and cut off runs to the outside. High motor player and fights through the whistle, wearing down offensive linemen. Pushed himself in the film room and on the practice field to seize his opportunity to start in 2015.

    WEAKNESSES: Not a twitched up rusher who can easily change speeds in his rush, lacking cat-like quickness. Needs to better keep his balance through gaps. Doesn’t consistently use his hands to convert speed to power and isn’t much of a bully.

    Undeveloped pass rush repertoire and needs to add more to his bag of tricks to fool blockers. Tends to think too much and play overly patient at times. Lack of hand tactics will cause his rush to stall. Only one season of starting experience and productivity. Benefited from playing opposite Shaq Lawson, rarely facing double-teams.

    COMPARES TO: Kony Ealy, Carolina Panthers – Similar to when Ealy entered the league two years ago, it will take some time for Dodd to adjust to the pro game, but all the skills are there for him to develop into a reliable starter.

    IN OUR VIEW: Based on traits, Dodd checks several boxes for the NFL with the size, length, athleticism and strength potential to be effective in the NFL. He also improved his ball awareness and discipline as his reps increased last season, showing encouraging growth that indicates he isn’t near his football ceiling.

    –Dane Brugler & Rob Rang (2/10/16

    45: Braxton Miller – WR, Ohio State

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824414/braxton-miller

    Player Overview
    Miller made the switch to wide receiver from quarterback over the 2015 offseason, and his athleticism and versatility paid off for the Buckeyes throughout the year. He finished fourth on the team with 26 catches for 341 yards and three touchdowns, added 260 yards and a touchdown on 42 carries and even completed his only pass – albeit for three yards.

    Miller told the Columbus Dispatch in June that he is the “best athlete” in all of college football, and he might be correct with that assessment. While he may not have had the traits to play quarterback at the next level, he is a very interesting prospect as a receiver.

    In 2013 as a junior, he passed for 2,094 yards, 63.5 percent completions and a 24-to-7 touchdown-to-interception ratio, earning Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year honors. Miller showed improvements as a passer throughout the season, compelling scouts to take a “wait-and-see” approach as the Ohio State quarterback entered his senior year. But he missed the 2014 season with another injury to his throwing shoulder and J.T. Barrett and Cardale Jones helped lead the Buckeyes to last year’s College Football Playoff.

    Many thought Miller would transfer to pursue playing quarterback elsewhere, but he chose to stay in Columbus and focus all of his energy on transitioning to wide receiver.

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Athletic body type and solidly-built for the position. Extraordinary athleticism and speed with sudden, explosive cutting ability. Tremendous balance and body control in all of his movements.

    Multiple gears to separate in his routes or as a ballcarrier. Understands hesitation in his patterns, setting up defenders before bursting in different directions. Vision to be a home-run threat whenever he touches the ball.

    In his one season as a receiver, showed the locating ability to track and keep his focus through the catch. Capable of the acrobatic reception. Strong arm as a passer and spins a pretty ball. Deceiving body strength to squirm out of would-be tackles. Highly productive three-year quarterback and looked natural making the transition to a skill player in 2015 – versatile player who affected the game as a receiver and rusher.

    Holds several school records and was a two-time Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year. Mature leader and determined individual who wants to be great.

    WEAKNESSES: Raw route-runner and lacks experience at the receiver position. Needs work with his footwork, especially at the stem of patterns. Natural hands, but had some drops in 2015, especially with the fastball.

    Still learning how to properly adjust to throws and attack at the highest point. Too much east-west and will get himself in trouble looking for the big play. Alligator arms and too concerned with what’s going on in the middle of the field – often braced himself for contact or showed tentativeness in space before securing the catch.

    Willing blocker, but still very raw and needs technique work. Ball security needs tightened with 30 career fumbles (three fumbles in 2015 as a non-quarterback). Doesn’t have any special teams experience.

    Health is a concern with his past medical issues – missed two games due a left knee sprain (Sept. 2013); injured his throwing (right) shoulder in the 2013 Orange Bowl that required surgery (Feb. 2014); re-injured the same shoulder that summer (Aug. 2014) and missed the 2014 season after labrum surgery; left game due to concussion symptoms (Nov. 2015).

    IN OUR VIEW: After starting three seasons as Ohio State’s quarterback, Miller moved to a hybrid H-Back position in 2015 for his final season of eligibility and adapted well. He enters the NFL as a wide receiver or running back, not a quarterback and his 2014 shoulder surgery ended up being a blessing in disguise, allowing Miller to speed up the inevitable transition to a skill position for the next level.

    Miller is a gifted and exciting open-field athlete with game-changing speed and the twitched-up ability to be elusive, not slowing down in his cuts. He showed signs of being able to translate his ability to read defenses as a passer to reading coverages in his routes, but is still unpolished in this area and will need time as he continues his development at wide receiver.

    The No. 1 concern moving forward for Miller is durability – true competitor, but can he stay healthy? Overall, while still raw, Miller is a special athlete for his size with considerable upside, putting him in the top 50 overall range. He will likely be a gadget player as an NFL rookie before competing for a starting role in year two.

    –Dane Brugler (1/25/16)

    76: Sterling Shephard WR, Oklahoma

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1996786/sterling-shepard

    Player Overview
    Shepard finished his Sooners career with 223 receptions for 3,482 yards and 26 touchdowns and was a semifinalist for the Biletnikoff Award as a senior. He earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl, where he earned the Practice Player of the Week award among wide receivers.

    Shepard’s family connection with Oklahoma football is a heart-warming tale. He wore No. 3 for the Sooners in honor of his late father, Derrick Shepard, who was a receiver for OU from 1983-86.

    “That’s been a lifelong goal of mine to play at Oklahoma,” Shepard told Texans TV at the Senior Bowl. “I’ve seen a lot of great receivers go through there and seen the mark they’ve made for themselves and I definitely wanted to be one of those top guys. Fortunately, I was able to do that with some great coaching and a lot of guys around me that are good.”

    The Sooners’ pass catcher also has the talent that makes it more than simply a feel-good story.

    He led Oklahoma in receiving as a junior in 2014 with 51 catches for 970 yards and five touchdowns, averaging a conference-best 19.0 yards per reception.

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Coordinated athlete with electric feet off the line of scrimmage and at the top of his route to gain separation and give his quarterback a target. He has quick eyes to make snap decision, tracking the ball well to make tough grabs look easy. Displays quick feet and movements at the line of scrimmage to avoid press and works well in tight spaces with his shifty moves and quick eyes.

    Shepard is a nightmare to cover because he possesses the straight-line speed to beat defenders over the top, as well as the quickness and balance to change directions in a flash. He shows soft, reliable hands to pluck the ball outside of his frame, as well as the awareness and toughness to “body catch” when necessary to protect the ball.

    Brings additional value with punt return experience.

    WEAKNESSES: Shepard has an undersized frame that makes him often out-matched vs. physical corners. Quicker than he is fast.

    IN OUR VIEW: Shepard routinely proved to be a mismatch during one-on-one drills against cornerbacks at the Senior Bowl, using his short-area burst to create spacing and give his quarterback a clean target. If the corner doesn’t make contact with Shepard off the line of scrimmage, it’s too easy for the smallish, but talented receiver to make something happen.

    Shepard has shown toughness throughout his career and frankly, he’ll need to continue to play with this chip on his shoulder to enjoy similar success at the next level.

    –Dane Brugler/Rob Rang (2/1/16)

    111: Tyler Higbee, TE Western Kentucky

    Player Overview
    Higbee signed with Western Kentucky as a wide receiver in 2011 and left in 2015 as a first-team All-Conference USA pick who tied for the nation’s best among tight ends with eight touchdowns.

    During his first fall at Western Kentucky, Higbee played in 11 games, starting one contest. He finished that season with two receptions but scored one time from 63 yards out.

    In 2012, Higbee made the move fulltime to tight end and redshirted. In 2013, he played in seven games with three starts. He finished with 13 receptions for 169 yards and a touchdown.

    In 2014, Higbee had 15 receptions for 230 yards and four scores as the backup. He enjoyed his finest season as a senior, playing in nine games, catching 38 passes for 563 yards and scoring eight times.

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Outstanding size and a terrific frame. Has length and above average straight-line speed. Can move for a 250-pounder.

    In terms of hands, Higbee gets the job done. He pretty much catches everything thrown his way and can make the tough grab in traffic. Can go high and get the ball as well as getting down low. Former wide receiver is a good route runner. A load to bring done and has shown the ability to break tackles after the reception and gain additional yardage.

    Solid as a blocker; tough and physical at the point of attack and does his job. Doesn’t blow anybody off the ball but he will put his hat on a defender and stay in front of him.

    WEAKNESSES: Good, solid, all-around player without being a standout in any one area. Could be a little more dominating in the run game. Limited production until his senior season, and the jump in the level of competition will be significant. One-year starter still learning nuances of position.

    IN OUR VIEW: This is a nice looking tight end prospect who has worked hard to put himself in this position, especially after making the position change. Along the way, Higbee has added 60 pounds. He’s athletic and versatile and in the right offensive system Higbee could really be a nice weapon in the NFL because he’s a guy that can be good in the run game and evolve into a tight end that work the middle of the field in the passing game and become a real threat.

    –Jamie Newberg (1/12/16)

    193: Joe Schobert – OLB, Wisconsin

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2001175/joe-schobert

    Player Overview
    Schobert was a semifinalist for both the Bednarik and Lombardi awards following a senior season in which he ranked fourth in the FBS with 14.5 tackles for loss and sixth with 9.5 sacks to go along with six forced fumbles and 12 pass breakups.

    That culminated a productive career in which Schobert started 24 of 41 games, compiling 149 tackles, 30.5 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks. He also recorded six forced fumbles and 12 pass breakups.

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Despite a frame which appears better suited off the line of scrimmage, Schobert’s quickness, underrated strength and awareness make him a tough draw for offensive linemen at the point of attack. He frequently slips past blockers, showing terrific spatial awareness, balance and lateral agility to dance and disrupt, often “making the play” by forcing ballcarriers into the arms of his teammates, who get the credit in the stat book.

    While he lacks ideal bulk, Schobert doesn’t shy from contact, generating space from blockers (offensive linemen, tight ends and backs, alike) with an impressive punch. He attacks double-teams, ducking his head and squirming his way through the gap, showing terrific balance, determination and leverage in doing so. His quick, light feet allow him to close quickly on the ballcarrier and he’s a generally reliable open-field tackler, showing patience and sound technique.

    Schobert plays with terrific instincts, latching onto backs to destroy screens and releasing from his primary downfield coverage responsibilities to attack once the ball has been delivered. He shows good vision and awareness to slice through traffic, taking calculated risks on his pursuit angles. Sells out to make the tackle, tripping up ball-carriers with extension and hand-eye coordination.

    WEAKNESSES: While surprisingly stout for his size, Schobert is more pesky than powerful at the point of attack. His limited frame gets Schobert washed out too often in the running game, with a number of his tackles coming yards downfield only after he has spun away from blockers.

    His lack of ideal length also shows up in pass coverage, where bigger tight ends were able to use their size advantage to win on contested throws. Schobert flirts with over-aggression, taking risky angles in pursuit and leaving his teammates in precarious positions.

    IN OUR VIEW: More than the sum of his parts, Schobert is the kind of hyper-active, ultra-productive defender who can “surprise” at the next level despite his less-than-ideal size. He’s effective in a variety of roles, showing terrific quickness, balance and surprising strength to be a factor in run support, coverage and rushing the quarterback.

    Though he played mostly outside linebacker and defensive end at Wisconsin, Schobert’s instincts and comfort in the pit could allow his future NFL team to experiment with him inside, as well.

    –Rob Rang (@robrang) (2/13/16)

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    Boylhart likes Paxton Lynch. The Huddle Report is no longer a pay site, BTW.

    Paxton Lynch QB Memphis

    http://www.thehuddlereport.com/archive/2016profiles/Paxton.Lynch.htm

    STRENGTHS

    Paxton is a bigger version of Aaron Rodgers. He has excellent arm talent to make all the throws. He stands in the pocket and throws under duress with accuracy. He can throw with accuracy on touch throws and on the run, making him the type of quarterback for the next level that has the athletic and arm talent to become a franchise quarterback. Paxton has a very strong arm and can throw the ball down the field with velocity and power that will cut through a defense like a lance slicing through the enemy on the field of battle. He has those long strides when he starts to move down the field covering a lot of ground quickly. What makes Paxton remind me so much of Aaron Rodgers is his agility and athletic talent to slide in the pocket, extend plays and throw with accuracy from any release point. Along with this athletic talent and excellent arm talent, Paxton shows in his play on the field to have excellent leadership skills and the ability to deal with pressure on the field, but also stay humble with confidence and deal with the pressure off the field. If you’re a team that needs a potential franchise quarterback, I suggest you don’t pass on selecting Paxton in this draft. He has the potential to re-write some of the passing records in the NFL.

    CONCERNS

    Although Paxton is ahead of the curve with his athletic talent and arm strength, he will struggle to not turn the ball over at the next level until he gets used to the speed of the defenses he will be up against. Others will suggest that the competition level is also a concern, but really Paxton just has to keep his head on straight and keep improving in reading defenses and getting use to the speed of the defenses at the next level.

    TALENT BOARD: ROUND 1

    If you need a quarterback, I suggest you trade your mother, wife and your dog to move up in this draft to select Paxton. Remember, your dog will find its way back to you anyway so that’s a no brainer. Like I said, Paxton has Aaron Rodgers-type talent to throw the ball from any release point with accuracy on the run or standing in the pocket. He has the size that makes it very difficult to sack him with just one player and the agility to slide in the pocket or leave the pocket to extend the play. He has those quick feet to go along with long strides to cover a lot of ground quickly if he needs to run for the first down. Yes, he will have some growing pains, but the fans will see the potential the first play he runs after he is selected and they will wait patiently for Paxton to improve. Paxton can play under center or in the shot gun. He is smart and although the defenses he has been up against in college are not as difficult to read as the ones at the NFL level, he will learn quickly. Paxton is a franchise quarterback waiting to happen so don’t be dumb and not select him or that “happening” will be “happening” for some other team. In any draft all you can do is select players with the information you have in front of you at that time. My information says that selecting Paxton Lynch is obvious.

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    NFL Scouting Combine 2016: Who to watch at every position

    By Vincent Bonsignore, Los Angeles Daily News

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160222/nfl-scouting-combine-2016-who-to-watch-at-every-position

    Call it the National Football League’s version of an annual job fair, but every February 300 or so of the top college football players in the country descend upon Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. This year’s combine begins on Wednesday.

    What unfolds is a week-long job interview in which the players are tested, probed, evaluated, dissected and judged by all 32 NFL teams coaches, general managers, scouts and medical staffs

    It’s an intense, thorough and relentless process that taps into players’ physical and mental make-ups, with their ability to run and jump and throw and catch as valuable as their capacity to connect, excel and demonstrate in classroom and interview settings.

    For the top prospects in the country, it’s an opportunity to validate or refute positive or negative aspects of their scouting breakdowns, or to flash in a way that sends them surging up draft boards.

    Although the high point for fans and scouts are the on-field drills – a series of universal agility tests applicable to all participants and drills specific to each player’s position – the behind-the-scenes interview sessions with each team can sometimes make or break a prospect in the eyes of certain clubs.

    Here is a look at the top prospects to keep an eye on at each position over the next week and some of the key drills in which they’ll be evaluated.

    QUARTERBACK

    JARED GOFF, CALIFORNIA

    Goff ended his career at Cal by setting Pac-12 conference records with 4,719 passing yards and 43 touchdowns during a stellar senior year. Having played almost exclusively in the shotgun, he needs to show he can adapt to the footwork of playing under center and also clean up mechanics that caused accuracy issues.

    Carson Wentz, North Dakota State

    Despite his small-school upbringing Wentz is surging up draft boards due to his prototypical size (6-5, 232), arm strength and passing-game aptitude. Has a chance to develop into a franchise quarterback. Long ball accuracy, polished footwork and adapting to the enhanced speed of the NFL game are concerns he can help alleviate in Indianapolis.

    PAXTON LYNCH, MEMPHIS

    More of a dual-threat quarterback than a conventional pocket passer, Lynch might need a year of grooming. But if a team is willing to be patient, the payoff is a ceiling is as high as any quarterback in the draft. Accuracy on the run was a problem, and needs to show improvement in that area this week.

    RUNNING BACK

    EZEKIEL ELLIOTT, OHIO STATE

    Rushed for 1,821 yards and 23 touchdowns in 2015. A tremendous athlete, he won four Missouri state track and field titles in the 100 and 200 meters and the 110 high hurdles and 300 hurdles. Can really help himself this week with a positive showing in pass-catching drills.

    DERRICK HENRY, ALABAMA

    Won the Heisman Trophy last year while rushing for a national best 2,219 rushing yards and 28 touchdowns. A bit of a sluggish athlete, his footwork isn’t top end. Speed and agility tests could push him up or down the draft board.

    DEVONTAE BOOKER, UTAH

    Ran for 1,261 yards and 11 touchdowns in 10 games in 2015, but also had 80 receptions over his junior and senior years. Needs to show improved speed this week.

    WIDE RECEIVER

    LAQUON TREADWELL, MISSISSIPPI

    Despite coming off a serious knee injury in 2015, Treadwell finished his senior year with 82 catches, 1,153 yards, and 11 scores and was as a Biletnikoff Award finalist,and first-team All-SEC selection. Not a speed guy by any means, so he can help himself considerably with a great 40 time.

    COREY COLEMAN, BAYLOR

    The Biletnikoff Award winner, Coleman caught 74 passes for 1,363 yards and led the country with 20 touchdown receptions in 2015. Dropped 10 passes a year ago, so his hands will be under a microscope at the combine.

    MICHAEL THOMAS, OHIO STATE

    Still a developing prospect, Thomas finished with 56 catches, 781 yards, and nine touchdowns last season. Footwork getting off the line of scrimmage and polished route running are areas scouts will be scrutinizing.

    TIGHT END

    AUSTIN HOOPER, STANFORD

    An effective run blocker who can also line up wide, Hooper caught 34 passes for 438 yards and six touchdowns last year. Top-end athletic ability and quickness has been a concern, so a good agility showing will help.

    HUNTER HENRY, ARKANSAS

    A PREMIER, PHYSICAL, INTENSE RUN BLOCKER, HENRY IS NO SLOUCH IN THE PASS GAME AND FINISHED LAST SEASON WITH 51 CATCHES FOR 739 YARDS. NOT MUCH BY WAY OF WEAKNESSES, BUT DOES NEED TO SHARPEN HIS PASS ROUTES. JERRELL ADAMS, SOUTH CAROLINA

    More of a pass-game threat then a sure blocker, Adams has enough athletic ability to be a down-field threat and finished with 28 catches for 421 yards and three touchdowns last year. Can really help himself by answering questions about his hands.

    OFFENSIVE LINE

    LAREMY TUNSIL MISSISSIPPI

    Generally regarded as the top pick in the draft. His elite footwork, agility and athletic ability are reflective of a franchise altering left tackle. More of a finesse blocker than a pure power blocker, but whatever weaknesses he has are minimal at best. Merely needs to show a clean bill of health to solidify his spot atop the draft.

    RONNIE STANLEY, NOTRE DAME

    A technically sound pass blocker with a quality motor. Very well coached with great hands and awareness. Has prevailed with technique and acumen, but can really help himself by showing better core power.

    JACK CONKLIN, MICHIGAN STATE

    A polished, sound pass blocker who can also mix it up in the run game. Showed average foot speed, which could be an issue against top-end edge pass rushers. Can enhance his status with a solid athletic showing.

    DEFENSIVE LINE

    JOEY BOSA, DE, OHIO STATE

    Among defensive lineman, has the best hand coordination and power combination in the draft. A relentless pass rusher and to-the-whistler player. Needs to show improved athletic ability, strength and technique.

    DEFOREST BUCKNER, DE, OREGON

    Long armed pass rusher who plays with great effort and is a surprisingly good run defender. His technique is still a work in progress, and needs to show he’s cleaned up that part of his game.

    NOAH SPENCE, DE, EASTERN KENTUCKY

    There is no questioning his on-field talent. He is an elite pass rusher who can create havoc. The issue is off the field, where two failed drug tests at Ohio State earned him a lifetime ban from the Big 10 and resulted in treatment for drug addition, He was also arrested in 2015 for alcohol intoxication and second­-degree disorderly conduct. Spence has owned up to his past issues, and had a great season in 2015 at Eastern Kentucky. He will be scrutinized this week about his past digressions and subsequent recovery, which by all measures has been a success.

    SHAQ LAWSON, DE-OLB, CLEMSON

    Played as a stand-up five technique defensive end last season, and some see him as an outside linebacker in the NFL. Consistently made plays behind the line of scrimmage while finishing with 25.5 tackles for losses and 12.5 sacks. Needs to show better athletic ability and endurance – the later of which was noticeable as games wore on.

    ROBERT NKEMDICHE, DE, MISSISSIPPI

    Looks the part of an NFL All-Pro, but it’s difficult getting past the lack of productivity as he produced just 6.5 sacks over three seasons. Needs to show better technique and position nuance. Scouts and coaches will want answers why the production never matched the obvious physical tools.

    CHRIS JONES, DT, MISSISSIPPI STATE

    Tremendously powerful interior player who can also create a formidable pass pocket push. Still a work in progress but his needle is pointed up. Endurance can be a problem, as is technique

    LINEBACKER

    JAYLON SMITH, NOTRE DAME

    At 6-3, 245 pounds Smith was one of the elite prospects throughout the 2015 season but tore the ACL and MCL in his left knee during Notre Dame’s Fiesta Bowl loss to Ohio State. Smith won’t be available to do on-field activities, but teams will take a close look at the progress of his knee.

    MYLES JACK, UCLA

    As versatile, productive and dynamic a player in the country the last three years, a torn anterior meniscus knee injury ended his junior season after three games. Jack, who is ideally suited as an NFL weak inside backer, will be limited this week to the bench press testing, interviews and medical examinations as he isn’t yet cleared for full agility participation.

    REGGIE RAGLAND, ALABAMA

    Emerged as a run-stopping MLB while leading Alabama with with 97 tackles to earn EC Defensive Player of the Year honors. Speed and coverage skills will be under the microscope this week.

    DARRON LEE, OHIO STATE

    A fluid linebacker with tremendous instincts, Lee plays well in the run game and is an apt pass coverage defender. NFL scouts want him to bulk up and add strength, as his ability to stand up and withstand the pro game is a question.

    CORNERBACKS

    JALEN RAMSEY, FLORIDA STATE

    A world-class athlete with the necessary size, strength and savvy to completely disrupt an opponent’s passing game. Needs to show better footwork, as NFL teams will make him prove he can match up to quicker receivers.

    VERNON HARGREAVES, FLORIDA A SMOOTH, ATHLETIC, INSTINCTIVE CORNERBACK WHO AMASSED 38 PASSES DEFENSED AND 10 INTERCEPTIONS OVER LAST THREE YEARS. ALTHOUGH NO ONE QUESTIONS HIS COMPETITIVENESS, HIS CLOSING SPEED WASN’T IDEAL SO A GOOD 40 TIME CAN SEND HIM SOARING UP THE DRAFT BOARD.

    MACKENSIE ALEXANDER, CLEMSON

    A lock down cornerback at Clemson who teams rarely challenged, Alexander is a film room junkie and a mentally sound and apt corner. His mental acumen hides average footwork and technique – an area scouts will be scrutinizing this week.

    SAFETY

    KARL JOSEPH, WEST VIRGINIA

    A devastating knee injury suffered during practice at West Virginia last year cut short a terrific season, but Joseph is regarded as the top safety in the draft class. A clean medical report will determine just how high he goes in the draft.

    VONN BELL, OHIO STATE

    An instinctive player in the pass game who shows great feel for the game at free safety. His speed didn’t always show up on the field, but he can dispel some of those concerns this week with a good workout.

    DARIEN THOMPSON, BOISE STATE

    A big, physical, productive ball-hawker who is also an intimidating player on the back end of a defense. However, instincts, awareness and technique were lacking and it’s an area scouts will scrutinize this week.

    DRILLS

    • 40-yard dash Over the years – and for better or worse – the 40-yard dash has grown into the signature event at the NFL scouting combine, providing a glimpse at players explosion from a set position and straight ahead speed while being timed at 10, 20 and 40-yard intervals. With so much of football played in short spaces, the 10-yard interval readings are more applicable for some positions compared to others. Nevertheless, a player’s stock can soar or fall based on the final numbers.

    BEST MARK: (electrical timing didn’t begin until 1999) 4.24 Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina 2008

    • Vertical jump From a flat-footed stance, players explode upward and reach as high as possible to measure his vertical jump. The objective is to assess a player’s lower-body power through his explosion out of a stance. Any mark in the 40 inch range is considered top-end athleticism.

    BEST MARK: 46.0 Gerald Sensabaugh, S, North Carolina 2005

    • Bench press This is all about strength and endurance as players bench press 225 pounds as many times as possible. Somewhat flawed as it’s suited better for shorter-armed players than longer armed, it does offer insight into a players strength and conditioning.

    BEST MARK: 51 Justin Ernest, E. Kentucky DT 1999

    • Broad jump From a set position, the player explodes forward as far as possible. The key is sticking the landing without moving or falling. The objective is assessing a players balance and lower-body power. A jump of 10 feet is considered top-end athleticism

    BEST MARK: 12-3 Byron Jones, Connecticut, CB 2016

    •3-cone drill With three cones set up as an L, the player sprints five yards to the first cone and then back before turning back to the second cone, curling around the third cone and then back around the second before finishing. The objective is to test a players ability to reach peak speed then change direction and get back to peak speed as quickly as possible. Scouts put a high emphasis on this drill as it emulates movement and body positioning applicable of football. Any mark under seven seconds represents great agility.

    Best Mark: 6.42 Jeff Maehl, Oregon WR 2011

    • Shuttle run Staring from a three-point stance, the player maneuvers five yards to his right and touches a line then pushes 10 yards to his left and touches a line before pivoting and maneuvering five yards back to his right. The objective is to assess short-area explosion, lateral quickness and change of direction. Scouts consider four seconds the optimal mark high-end agility.

    Best Mark: 3.73 Kevin Kasper, Iowa WR 2001

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    Report: Virtually no chance WR Mohamed Sanu re-signs with Bengals

    By Kyle Phelps

    @KylePhelps92 on Feb 19, 2016, 10:47a 100
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    Mohamed Sanu was interviewed on Sirius XM NFL Radio’s Late Hits to share his thoughts on his future with the Bengals, free agency, and potentially playing elsewhere.

    Bengals wide receiver Mohamed Sanu joined SiriusXM yesterday to talk about free agency and the lack of communication between his agent and the team so far this offseason.

    While that’s discouraging to hear, what’s more discouraging is a report from Alex Marvez of Fox Sports saying there’s “virtually no chance” Sanu re-signs with the Bengals.

    Multiple sources told FOXSports.com that there is virtually no chance Sanu will re-sign with the Bengals. Sanu will instead pursue opportunities elsewhere when the free-agent signing period begins March 9…

    Cleveland, Atlanta and the New York Giants are among the teams expected to express interest in signing Sanu, who has spent all four of his NFL seasons with the Bengals after being a 2012 third-round pick out of Rutgers. Sanu posted modest receiving totals last season with 33 catches for 394 yards as his role in the offense diminished with the return of wide receiver Marvin Jones and tight end Tyler Eifert from injuries that sidelined them in 2014.

    On Sirius XM radio’s NFL hits, he told Alex MarVez and Phil Savage that he hasn’t had any meaningful talks with the Bengals yet about re-signing. “Mike’s talked to me,” Sanu said of his agent Mike McCartney. “He hasn’t really said anything about communication with the Bengals. We’re just being patient and just waiting to see what happens. You never know, as the next couple of weeks heat up, we’ll see what happens.”

    It’s not exactly the most encouraging thing for Bengals fans who love what Sanu brings to the table, but it is also true that many free agents like Sanu don’t delve into serious contract talks until the free agency period has started.

    Sanu has a bit more leverage with the Bengals than most No. 3 receivers have with their teams. As Marvez and Savage note in the interview, he is a “60, 70, maybe even 80 catch guy on another team”, despite his lack of opportunities with the Bengals due to their depth at receiver and strong run game.

    A lack of touches could keep Sanu from re-signing with the Bengals if he wants a bigger opportunity elsewhere. As he notes in the interview, “When you’ve got so much talent on one team, it’s hard to get the ball to… so many talented guys. So, yeah, [going elsewhere] definitely crossed my mind.”

    With so many weapons on the offense, it is true that guys like Sanu get their number of touches reduced in favor of other talented and productive players like A.J. Green, Tyler Eifert, Marvin Jones, Jeremy Hill, and Giovani Bernard. As much as the Bengals and their fans would love to have someone as talented as Sanu playing the No. 3 receiver role, there’s no getting around the fact that he’s capable of more.

    There’s plenty of other teams out there that have salary cap room and could use a serious upgrade at one of the top receiver positions. For example, the Browns, Raiders, Jaguars, Giants, and 49ers are all teams with top ten salary cap space and more disposable money than the Bengals that would be able to offer. They all can also offer a significantly increased role than what the Bengals can offer. Yesterday, it was reported the Giants are interested in Sanu.

    “We just gotta see how everything unfolds,” Sanu said about his future with the Bengals.

    Sanu is probably going to be looking at a deal netting between $2.5 million and $6 million per year in free agency. This estimate could even be on the conservative side, given what Andrew Hawkins received with the Browns. Will the Bengals be willing to pay him that kind of money to continue being the third option at wide receiver? It seems unlikely, but crazier things have happened.

    http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/2/19/11059682/report-virtually-no-chance-wr-mohamed-sanu-re-signs-with-bengals

    I thought Sanu might be in that equation.

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    Data Analytics is really in full flower now – it was the primary focus of the last Medicaid conferences that I attended. All the healthcare related software companies were trying to sell their analytic tools which really amount to statistical representations in fancy, detailed graphical format of whatever data is behind it.

    The base for analytics is data of any kind – too much is not enough. The idea of the analytic vendor is to save any of it just in case they can think of something that they can package and market to any entity that would value it. So, as a governmental agency they think we should be using their analytic tools to help make decisions about annual budgets, effectiveness of healthcare entities, cost breakdowns of both billed and actual per healthcare provider\patient\procedure\diagnosis\and on an on including gender, race, etc. And, so much more it becomes over whelming.

    I would guess every single candidate has some involvement with this from a who are the voting voters breakdown and what bullshit do I need to spew to get their attention to a high degree.

    That said, Cruz is a lying pos but he’s a politician so he has that right. To me – all of them seem like lying a-holes. It’s difficult for me to watch even two minutes of any of them and not get frustrated by their blather.

    I can’t see a single one that I want to vote for right now but I haven’t been listening to all the daily clatter they make either. Life is short so piss on all them right now.

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    How Paxton Lynch went from overlooked recruit to potential top QB pick in NFL draft

    Eric Adelson

    Yahoo Sports

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/qb-paxton-lynch-commands-a-room-with-his-size-but-went-largely-unnoticed-running-the-wing-t-045414770.html

    DELTONA, Fla. – Paxton Lynch woke up on the morning of the Central Florida high school football all-star game in 2011 and figured there was no reason to be nervous.

    “I thought the all-star game was gonna be possibly my last game,” Lynch said last Friday. “I thought of it like that. I went out and enjoyed myself.”

    .Paxton Lynch’s throwing hand measures nearly a foot across from pinkie to thumb. (Yahoo Sports)

    A little more than four years later, Lynch is a likely NFL first-round pick, and possibly destined for a top-three spot depending on what teams see in him over the coming weeks.

    Lynch is 6-foot-7, hoping to run a sub-4.7 40-yard-dash later this month at the NFL scouting combine, and he has a massive throwing hand that measures nearly a foot. “I’m trying to blow people away with my size and athletic ability,” he says, and he just might do that.

    So how did Lynch fall completely off the radar in the recruiting-crazy state of Florida? Why was he a week removed from signing day in 2012 and preparing himself for a post-college life of “probably working with my dad”?

    What makes his story even more odd is that Florida, UCF and even Florida State could have used Lynch last season. None of these schools are overrun with quarterbacks. It got to the point during Lynch’s senior year of high school that a local sportswriter who covered the team regularly asked himself, “What can I do to get Paxton noticed?”

    Deltona is a small, working-class suburb of Orlando, along Interstate 4 about halfway from downtown toward Daytona. Not too far off the highway is a religious school of about 600 kids called Trinity Christian Academy. It graduated its first class, of eight students, in 1987. By the time Paxton Lynch arrived after being home-schooled as a child, most of the K-through-12 grades had around 40 students.

    “We’re a tiny, tiny, tiny school,” says athletic director Buddy Shacklette, who wrote for the Daytona News-Journal before coming to the academy. “We actually are known for baseball.”

    It’s hard to believe the school is known for any sport, as the weight room is converted from an old band room and still has wooden boards on the wall to muffle the sound of music. Behind the school sits the athletic department, which is a trailer left over from I-4 construction. Inside, a helmet sits on top of a washing machine in the team meeting room, and the coach’s office has a floor made from an old basketball court. The football team does not have space to practice, so it regularly busses 10 minutes down the road to a community park, where it works out in a field near a playground. Hundreds of quarterbacks in Texas have facilities that rival college and even professional programs, and a potential No. 1 NFL pick comes from here.

    “We probably need to track down his jersey,” Shacklette says.

    .Here’s the headquarters of Trinity Christian Academy’s athletic department. (Yahoo Sports)

    There was still another obstacle to Lynch getting discovered: the Trinity offense. It ran the Wing-T while he was there, which more or less turned him into a dual-threat passer with only one threat. Lynch was a good athlete, and a good runner, but he also had a strong arm (as does his brother, Evan, who played baseball), which he seldom used.

    “We always wondered as reporters,” Shackette says, “Why wouldn’t you turn this kid loose?”

    Lynch found himself wondering the same.

    “I always looked at other teams’ stats, and they’re throwing the ball 25, 30 times a day,” he says. “Why aren’t we doing that?”

    The frustration bubbled when Lynch went to camps and still received little attention. It didn’t help that he bruised his knee before his senior season and missed time, but that didn’t explain it fully. He was a three-star Rivals prep and his only interest, he says, came from Bethune-Cookman, Florida A&M and Florida Tech.

    “We went to the camps,” says Paxton’s father, David. “Everyone had a chance to see him. They were just worried about the small school.”

    The Lynches stayed with Trinity anyway, even though many families would have headed for a bigger stage. They liked the education, and even liked the Wing-T, as Paxton enjoyed running the football. They figured it would all work out somehow.

    “We just kept trusting in God, that he was going to put him in the right position,” David Lynch says. “It was hard for him sometimes. He knows he’s good enough; why doesn’t anybody believe the same thing?”

    The all-star game was more or less the last shot, even though Paxton figured the last shot might already have passed. “It was an all-star game,” he says now. “People really don’t care.”

    People started to care after Lynch won MVP honors, throwing for two touchdowns and running for another. Still, not much materialized. Then Florida offensive coordinator Charlie Weis showed strong interest, but he took the head job at Kansas. Brent Pease, the ensuing offensive coordinator, picked up the thread, but he seemed to prefer Skyler Mornhinweg, the son of long-time NFL offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg.

    “They were gonna wait to see what he was going to do and I wasn’t going to sit around waiting on y’all,” Lynch says. “He ended up committing and I don’t know what he’s doing now.” (Mornhinweg transferred to Columbia.)

    That left the door open for Memphis, which found out about Lynch because an assistant athletic director read a recruiting story about overlooked prep players.

    .Paxton Lynch blossomed enough at Memphis to be considered a potential Day 1 draftee in the NFL. (AP)

    “Someone said there was a kid in Florida,” says Justin Fuente, then at Memphis. “We sent a coach down there, met with him. We tried to scare up as much video as we could. We scoured the Internet. We had some footage from the all-star game and that was about it. It was a quick evaluation.”
    Fuente offered without ever seeing Lynch throw live.

    Lynch visited on the last possible day, and committed.

    Then, on signing day, UCF lost top quarterback recruit Jonathan Wallace to Auburn. Then coach George O’Leary asked offensive coordinator Charlie Taaffe if he had a Plan B, and Taaffe rushed to call Lynch. By then it was too late.

    Lynch starred for Memphis, even entering the Heisman conversation at one point last year. Fuente is now Frank Beamer’s replacement at Virginia Tech, and UCF’s O’Leary resigned in October.

    Had Taaffe called a week sooner, “I’d probably still be there,” he says with a half-laugh.

    Taaffe has seen something similar before: Blake Bortles was also an overlooked prep in this area. Many college coaches saw him as a tight end, if that. He committed to Taaffe and UCF, won a BCS bowl game and became a top-three NFL pick. “There are a lot of parallels,” says Taaffe, who is now training Lynch for the combine at D1 training center in nearby Lake Mary. It’s notable how in a world of social media and YouTube and the constant search for the franchise quarterback, some of the top passing prospects – including Carson Wentz of North Dakota State – are all but completely missed.

    “He’s a product of early recruiting,” Fuente says of Lynch. “There are so many early offers now. Coaches get filled up and they can’t offer even if they like him. It’s a classic example of a guy who hasn’t reached his peak as a junior in high school.”

    Another possible bonus for would-be NFL teams is that prospects like Lynch and Wentz “aren’t catered to” in the words of Taaffe. They aren’t presumptuous and they often like to learn. Lynch, like Bortles, intends to throw at the combine in the hopes of impressing rather than maintaining some preconceived level of hype.

    There is a downside, though, and it’s especially so in Lynch’s case: inexperience. He had almost no passing game in high school, and the system he ran at Memphis is not all that similar to what he’ll be using in Cleveland or Dallas or Houston or wherever he lands.

    “[There are] things Paxton didn’t do a lot of in college that he’s going to be required to do in the NFL,” Taaffe says. “Which is playing under center, both in the run game and the pass game. He didn’t do much of those things at all at Memphis and that will be a transition for him. He very rarely was in the huddle. Everything was up-tempo, look over to the sidelines to get the play. They don’t do that on Sundays.”

    So a big part of Lynch’s pre-combine learning curve is classroom work. When he’s not doing cardio or weights, he is breaking down tape.

    .An NFL dream might be realized this spring for David and Paxton Lynch. (Yahoo Sports)

    “I really didn’t know that much about football in high school,” he says. “Then I learned everything in college.”

    He will have to learn everything again in the months to come. Taaffe says Lynch’s football IQ is “outstanding,” but he struggled in Memphis’ bowl game, where Lynch threw for 104 yards, no touchdowns and had an interception against Auburn, which took a lot of his trusted screen passes away.

    “They kind of got after us a little bit,” Lynch says. “It was a bad note to end on.”

    He’ll have to be patient, and his new fan base will have to be too. Even Bortles played in a college offense more suited to the NFL, and he had to learn a lot of his footwork in his first summer as a pro. It’s been only a little over three years since Lynch was playing quarterback and safety on a team of 22 kids who dressed for games in a trailer; now the Auburn defense will look slow compared to what he’s about to see. He just turned 22 on Friday.

    “It’s crazy, but it’s enjoyable,” he says. “Whenever I feel like I’m overwhelmed, I need to relax, I sit back and think about how blessed I am to be here.”

    Lynch’s father says that one of his son’s goals for his first pro year is to start a camp for two-star players who might have been overlooked. Regardless of his success after getting drafted, he is a shining example for late-bloomers and small-school stars. For every Cam Newton and Peyton Manning, there’s a Paxton Lynch, waking up on the day of a big high school game and wondering if anyone out there will ever notice him.

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    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/neandertal-human-trysts-may-be-linked-to-modern-depression-heart-disease/

    Neandertal–Human Trysts May Be Linked to Modern Depression, Heart Disease

    Interbreeding may have influenced modern risks for depression, heart attacks, nicotine addiction, obesity and other health problems, researchers said

    By Charles Q. Choi, LiveScience on February 12, 2016

    Ancient trysts between Neanderthals and modern humans may have influenced modern risks for depression, heart attacks, nicotine addiction, obesity and other health problems, researchers said.
    The Neanderthals were once the closest relatives of modern humans. Scientists recently discovered that Neanderthals and modern humans once interbred; nowadays, about 1.5 to 2.1 percent of DNA in people outside Africa is Neanderthal in origin.
    “This raises several fascinating questions like, ‘What effect does the Neanderthal DNA that remains in modern humans have on our biology?'” said study senior author John Capra, an evolutionary geneticist at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. [See Photos of Our Closest Human Ancestor]
    Now, for the first time, researchers have directly compared Neanderthal DNA with the clinical records of a significant portion of adults of European ancestry. The scientists discovered that this archaic genetic legacy has had a subtle but significant impact on modern human biology, they said.
    “Neanderthal DNA influences a broad range of traits relevant to disease risk in modern humans,” Capra told Live Science.

    Modern humans have inherited many physical traits from the Neanderthals. This material relates to a paper that appeared in the Feb. 12, 2016 issue of Science, published by AAAS. The paper, by C.N. Simonti at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, TN, and colleagues was titled, “The phenotypic legacy of admixture between modern humans and Neandertals.”
    Credit: Michael Smeltzer, Vanderbilt University
    The researchers first identified about 135,000 Neanderthal genetic variations found in modern humans. Next, the scientists analyzed a database of more than 28,000 adults of European ancestry from the Electronic Medical Records and Genomics (eMERGE) Network, a consortium of nine hospitals across the United States. This data linked patient genetic data with versions of those individuals’ electronic health records that were stripped of identifying details such as names and addresses.
    The data helped the researchers determine if each person had ever been treated for medical conditions such as heart disease, arthritis and depression. It also helped the scientists determine what Neanderthal genetic variants each person carried.

    THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS NEANDERTHAL-INFLUENCED TRAITS.
    CREDIT: DEBORAH BREWINGTON, VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY

    Ultimately, the researchers found that Neanderthal genetic variants were significantly linked to increased risk of 12 traits, including heart attack and artery thickening.
    Surprisingly, the investigators also found a Neanderthal genetic variant that significantly increased the modern human risk for nicotine addiction, the researchers said. However, this does not mean that Neanderthals smoked tobacco, Capra said.
    “Tobacco was found solely in the Western Hemisphere until Europeans brought it back from expeditions to the Americas,” Capra said. The Neanderthal DNA that boosts the risk of nicotine addiction may have had a completely different and potentially beneficial effect “that exhibited itself 50,000 years ago,” Capra said.
    Some of the scientists’ discoveries confirm previous ideas. For example, earlier research suggested that Neanderthal DNA influenced skin cells known as keratinocytes that help protect the skin from environmental damage such as ultraviolet radiation and germs. The new findings suggest that Neanderthal genetic variants increase the risk of developing sun-triggered skin lesions known as keratoses, which are caused by abnormal keratinocytes.
    “When we started this study, we expected that if we found anything at all, we would find an influence of Neanderthal DNA on bodily systems that are involved in interactions with the environment,” Capra said. “We hypothesized this because Neanderthals had been living in Central Asia and Europe for hundreds of thousands of years before our recent ancestors ever reached these areas—and thus had likely adapted to the distinct environmental aspects of these regions, compared to Africa, in terms of climate, plants and animals, and pathogens.”
    Capra and his colleagues also found that a number of Neanderthal genetic variants influenced the risk for depression, with some variants increasing the risk and others reducing it.
    “The brain is incredibly complex, so it’s reasonable to expect that introducing changes from a different evolutionary path might have negative consequences,” study lead author Corinne Simonti, a graduate student of human genetics at Vanderbilt University, said in a statement.”
    The researchers suggest that some Neanderthal genetic variants might have provided benefits in modern human populations as they first moved out of Africa thousands of years ago. However, those variants may have later become detrimental in modern, Western environments, the scientists said. One example is Neanderthal DNA that increases blood clotting; while this can help seal wounds and prevent germs from entering the body, it can also increase the risk for stroke, miscarriage and other problems, Capra said.
    The researchers suggest that Neanderthal DNA may not have contributed to differences in skin colors between modern humans, unlike what previous research has suggested. Instead, differences in modern human skin color probably developed very recently, Capra said. “Neanderthals may also have had a range of skin colors,” Capra added.
    Future research can compare Neanderthal DNA with data gleaned from other sources of medical information, such as lab tests, doctors’ notes and medical images, the researchers said. “There is still much to learn about the effects of interbreeding on different populations in recent human history,” Capra said.
    The scientists detailed their findings online today (Feb. 11) in the journal Science.
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    ‘We Read Them Like a Book’

    Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and his unit utilized ‘green-dog’ blitzes and an extra lineman to overwhelm Cam Newton and a Panthers offense that had no answers in Super Bowl 50

    by Andy Benoit

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/08/nfl-super-bowl-50-denver-broncos-defense

    SANTA CLARA, Calif. — All week long the question was, How would the Broncos react to Cam Newton. Sunday’s answer: they’d make Newton react to them.
    “He really doesn’t scramble a whole lot,” defensive coordinator Wade Phillips said, holding the Lombardi Trophy. “He tries to throw from the pocket.”

    The Broncos at times dedicated a spy on Newton in situations where he would be more inclined to scramble, but mostly they went into attack mode, blitzing Newton out of their man-to-man packages.

    Phillips’ biggest decision heading into this game was what to do with his extra defenders. He knew that in man coverage he’d often have at least one, and maybe two. The Panthers, after all, like to keep a tight end and/or fullback in to help their athletically average offensive line in pass protection. So what do you do with the man-to-man defenders who are assigned to the tight end or fullback?

    Phillips’ solution was to have them blitz. This tactic, known as green-dog blitzing, is an aggressive yet relatively safe way to combat a dual threat quarterback like Newton. As long as the green-dog blitzers are patient and sure that their man is not just chip-blocking but actually staying in all the way, and as long as they’re disciplined in their rush lanes so as not to disrupt the four rushing defensive lineman, it can be a lethal approach.
    Linebacker Brandon Marshall, who has been a key green-dog blitzer for Denver all season, said this was the plan every time they saw extra men stay in to help pass protect. “In a lot of games we saw on film, Newton was just sitting back, patting the ball,” Marshall said. “We’d see two [free defenders] in the middle of the field just not doing anything.”

    “They did everything that we saw on film,” Marshall said. “That’s the crazy thing. Nothing new.”

    Another crucial benefit of green-dog blitzing is it prevents those extra blockers from doing what they’re employed specifically to do, which is help the offensive line. Tight end Ed Dickson can’t help heavy-legged right tackle Mike Remmers with a double team on Von Miller if Dickson has to react to a safety coming after his quarterback. Fullback Mike Tolbert can’t lend a hand to slower-footed Michael Oher against DeMarcus Ware if a linebacker has suddenly pinned his ears back and is rushing.

    And often, the Panthers like to have Dickson and Tolbert blocking on the same side so that the entire O-line can slide the other way. By green dog blitzing, that O-line slide gets nullified because the green-dog blitzers become the edge rushers, allowing the D-lineman to run twists and stunts just a few slots over against the sliding blockers.

    With this proactive approach, the Broncos turned in one of the most dominant Super Bowl performances in history. The Panthers offense scored a season-low in points (10) and gave up season-highs in turnovers (four) and sacks (seven).

    Adding players to the pass rush “flustered them a lot,” said safety T.J. Ward. “They didn’t expect that.”

    Ward was asked if the Panthers showed them anything that they didn’t expect. “No. We read them like a book.”

    “They did everything we watched on film,” said fellow safety Darian Stewart.

    The safeties weren’t the only ones saying this. Marshall, when asked the question, laughed. (Causing linebacker Todd Davis, one locker over, to also laugh.) “They did everything that we saw on film,” Marshall said. “That’s the crazy thing. You’d think with two weeks to prepare for the Super Bowl, they would do a new wrinkle. They did everything the same. Nothing new.”
    The only man who could think of any unexpected play from Carolina was, of course, Coach Phillips. He cited the Ted Ginn throwback attempt to Newton (which the Broncos took away) and the misdirection third-and-short throw to Greg Olsen (which got the Broncos).

    Besides green-dog blitzing, Phillips’ other big focus was taking away Carolina’s running game. The Panthers, with all of their heavy two-tight end and two-back sets, present a lot of moving pieces on the ground. But they’ll also run the ball out of what’s become the default formation leaguewide: three wide receivers. Phillips noticed something here. “They can’t run against a seven man front with three wide receivers.”

    Few teams had exploited Carolina here because defenses often play a six-man front against three-receiver sets if it’s a passing situation. The Panthers are willing to still run in those situations, which concerned Phillips. So, to put an extra body in the front—which was crucial given that Newton must be treated as a ballcarrier—Phillips in certain scenarios replaced one of his nickel safeties with a fifth defensive lineman. That gave the Broncos five men along the line of scrimmage but still three corners in coverage. It’s a brilliant ploy because corners Aqib Talib, Chris Harris and Bradley Roby can easily cover Carolina’s mediocre wide receivers one-on-one. An extra safety wasn’t necessary.

    Taking away the run was critical for two reasons: (1) It’s what the Panthers do best; and (2) Stopping it creates the third-and-long situations that allow guys like Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware to tee off on iffy offensive tackles.

    Not to mention, Denver felt that Carolina in obvious passing situations was schematically limited. “You can tell they spend more time on their run game than their passing game,” said Ward. “Their run game is intricate, with the hand-offs and the option runs, and guys pulling. Their passing game is pretty much what they show you in their previous weeks.”

    And so the team that John Elway built to win via defense has claimed the franchise’s third Super Bowl thanks to a destructive defense. Talent was key, as it always is. But just as important is identifying the most advantageous ways to use the talent. The Broncos did this with tactical aggressiveness in all phases.

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    Report: Manziel refused rehab twice in last week

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/54646/Report–Manziel-refused-rehab-twice-in-last-week/Default.aspx

    Johnny Manziel’s family is concerned for his well-being, but the NFL quarterback has twice declined to be admitted to area rehabilitation facilities in the last week, according to his father, Paul Manziel.

    “I truly believe if they can’t get him help, he won’t live to see his 24th birthday,” Paul Manziel told Kate Hairopoulos of the Dallas Morning News.

    On Friday, Manziel’s agent Erik Burkhardt also voiced concern for Manziel and announced that he is terminating their professional relationship.

    The family first tried Saturday afternoon to get Manziel, 23, to agree to go to the Enterhealth Ranch addiction facility in Van Alstyne, but he would not stay. That attempt came the day after Manziel’s former girlfriend alleged in a police report that he hit her repeatedly at a Dallas hotel and while driving her home to Fort Worth on Jan. 29. Manziel has not been charged in the incident, but a Fort Worth Police helicopter searched the area for him.

    Paul Manziel said that he tried to have his son admitted Tuesday to Carrollton Springs Hospital, but that Johnny was allowed to leave. Paul Manziel said that he is upset that his son was allowed to walk away after Paul told a Denton County Sheriff officer that he believed Johnny to be suicidal. A public information officer from the Denton County Sheriff’s office said it has no record of Manziel coming into contact with an officer. Carrollton Springs is a 45-bed psychiatric and chemical dependency hospital in Carrollton, providing inpatient and outpatient treatment to adults suffering from mental illness and/or addiction, according to its website.

    Johnny Manziel, who is from Tyler and Kerrville, Texas, has spent the last several weeks in Dallas. The former Texas A&M quarterback and 2012 Heisman Trophy winner has been seen out, including at Wednesday night’s Mavericks game.

    Colleen Crowley, Manziel’s ex-girlfriend, said Manziel acted like he was on drugs but not intoxicated during the Jan. 29 incident, according to the police report.

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    Party’s over for many St. Louis Rams employees

    Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/party-s-over-for-many-st-louis-rams-employees/article_e35120d2-b376-5fe2-819b-df6ac4c8a8a2.html

    There aren’t nearly as many cars in the parking lot these days at Rams Park.

    If you’re in marketing and sales, for example, you really don’t have a function because there’s no longer anything to market and sell for the Rams — at least not in St. Louis.

    Since the NFL approved the relocation of the Rams to Los Angeles three weeks ago, change is afoot at the team’s Earth City headquarters. Each day, more and more desks are cleaned out. Packing is well underway.

    Even in the media workroom, large blue plastic containers are stacked in one corner, labeled and filled with files, photos, decades worth of box scores, anything and everything that an NFL media relations office would need.

    The Rams have until April 1 to be out of the building, which they have occupied since 1996 — the team’s second season in St. Louis — and have rented for $25,000 a year from the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority.

    No one knows exactly where those containers — or anything else — are going because the Rams have yet to decide where it will set up headquarters in the Los Angeles area.

    Players anxious to find places to stay in California are being told to be patient and wait a little longer. The last thing a player needs is a condo or home located far from the practice facility — which would mean a long commute in the notorious L.A. traffic.

    So even with the move approved, there’s still uncertainty, not to mention heartache and stress for many rank-and-file team employees. Not counting players, coaches, and those in the scouting/personnel department, there are about 100 team employees.

    Since the league’s relocation vote Jan. 12, about half of those 100 employees have been told they are being invited to accompany the team to Los Angeles. The other half? Well, they’re not making the travel squad.

    Those told they’re not coming with the team are being offered two months termination pay, six months severance pay, plus one week of additional pay for each year of employment with the team. So an employee who was with the Rams for, say, 15 years and is not accompanying the team to Los Angeles could walk away with nearly a year’s worth of pay. The team also is providing a placement service for employees not going to L.A., offering interviewing and résumé tips, as well as networking opportunities.

    But that doesn’t ease the pain for many.

    “It’s tough. A lot of friends, a lot of goodbyes,” said one team employee speaking on condition of anonymity. “Worst thing I’ve ever been through.”

    Some longtime employees have been invited to L.A. but have established roots in St. Louis and simply don’t want to go. Some can’t leave because of family considerations. For others, including many who are single and early in their careers, it’s just the opposite. For them, Los Angeles represents a new adventure.

    This picture of the final days at Rams Park emerged from interviews with several employees. But none felt comfortable speaking on the record — they don’t want to jeopardize a severance package or a job offer with the Rams in L.A.

    Rams executive vice president Kevin Demoff declined to be interviewed for this story.

    Obviously, the prospect of a move to L.A. has been out there for a couple of years, but still, the league’s decision seemed sudden — and so final — for many. The first couple of weeks after the relocation vote were particularly tough, including some tearful farewells among co-workers.

    “I wish (Demoff) was around to see and feel the pain in this building,” said another team employee just days after the move was approved.

    Demoff has spent a lot of time in Los Angeles since the 30-2 relocation vote, and he wasn’t in the building the first few days after Jan. 12.

    To a large degree, those in ticketing, marketing, sales and accounting are not making the trek to Los Angeles. The Rams’ ticket office at the Edward Jones Dome was emptied and closed about a week after the relocation vote.

    Most of the team’s athletic trainers, equipment staff, and those in the Rams Broadcast Network are going. It looks like most of the media relations staff also is heading to Los Angeles.

    It’s highly unlikely that any of the team physicians, who are affiliated with Washington University and Barnes-Jewish Hospital, are following the team west. Basically, they have well-established practices in St. Louis apart from the football team.

    Those doctors are expected to stay on with the team through the NFL Scouting Combine this month, the recheck combine in April, and then the draft before the Rams start fresh with a new set of physicians in Los Angeles.

    Although everyone at Rams Park knows whether they’ve been invited or not to join the team in L.A., one unknown remains: any cost of living adjustment for those invited to the more expensive West Coast.

    Will it be a flat rate, or amount, to all employees? Or will it vary from employee to employee or by job title? If the numbers aren’t right, even more employees have indicated they will stay in St. Louis.

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    By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com
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    on February 02, 2016 at 12:39 PM, updated February 02, 2016 at 2:07 PM
    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/johnny_manziel_cleveland_brown_cut.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Browns will waive Johnny Manziel when the league year opens March 9 for repeated trangressions that have hurt and embarassed the team, league sources told cleveland.com.

    Browns Executive Vice President Sashi Brown made it clear in a statement Tuesday that the Browns are done with Johnny Manziel, who’s under investigation by Texas police and the NFL for possibly assaulting his ex-girlfriend.

    But league sources have told cleveland.com that he’s done. It’s over.

    “We’ve been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field. Johnny’s continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization,” Brown said in the statement. “His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time.”

    The Browns can’t waive or trade Manziel until the league year begins March 9 because they’ve already exercised the option of moving their salary cap space from this year into next year. Therefore, they don’t have the option of waiving him when the waiver period opens Feb. 8, a day after the Super Bowl.

    Police in Fort Worth and Dallas are investigating Manziel for possibly assaulting his ex-girlfriend early Saturday morning. The NFL is also investigating, since this is the second incident since Oct. 13, when he was involved in a roadway argument with Colleen Crowley.

    Manziel faces possible suspension by the NFL, but probably won’t be the Browns’ problem much longer.

    Manziel was not arrested by Avon, Ohio police for the Oct. 13 incident, and the NFL cleared him of any wrongdoing despite Crowley initially telling police that Manziel beat her and shoved her head into the glass of the car.

    Crowley, who was drunk at the time, later changed her story and said Manziel didn’t harm her. Now, Manziel is being accused a second time of possibly assaulting a female.

    Johnny Manziel has been anything but dependable since the Cleveland Browns selected him in the 2014 draft. Here is a look at the incidents that have gotten him to this point.

    Early Saturday morning, police in Fort Worth, Texas were called to an apartment building near Texas Christian University, where Crowley — who might now be his ex-girlfriend — is a student. Crowley’s name was not mentioned in the police report, just a 23-year-old female, so it’s unclear if she’s the woman involved.

    When police arrived, they couldn’t locate the caller but came across the 23-year-old woman who reported that she had been involved in a disturbance with Manziel in Dallas and possibly other locations. Although she was uncooperative, she managed to express to police that she was worried about Manziel — whom she described as her ex-boyfriend — which prompted Fort Worth police to search for him.

    When he didn’t answer calls to his cell phones, police searched the area in patrol cars and eventually an Air One helicopter to look for him. Ultimately, he was found to be safe and in no danger. But police in Fort Worth and Dallas are still “actively working” to determine if Manziel assaulted his ex-girlfriend.

    On Monday, police in both jurisdictions said there was nothing new to report.

    The NFL, which launches its own probes into domestic violence allegations, brought in investigator Lisa Friel to interview Manziel on Oct. 28 at the Browns facility in Berea regarding the Oct. 13 roadway argument with Crowley. Manziel was represented by NFLPA Heather McPhee.

    The NFL also interviewed Crowley and the Avon Police, and ultimately declined to issue any punishment.

    “Based on the information gathered, we have concluded that there is an insufficient basis on which to take disciplinary action,” the NFL said in a statement. “In all cases of this nature, our concern under the Personal Conduct Policy goes well beyond the issue of discipline, and we have made comprehensive professional resources available on a confidential basis.”

    Following that announcement — on the same day he was named the starter for the final six games of the season — Manziel issued a statement saying the league’s decision should put to rest any thoughts that he had hurt Crowley.

    “I appreciate the NFL’s diligence and discretion in reviewing a situation that was both personal and embarrassing,” Manziel said. “Colleen and I cooperated fully with the NFL’s process and completely support their goals of making sure that every family under their umbrella is safer and more secure.

    “I’m grateful that the review was so thorough and fair that there should be no question left in the public mind about what actually happened.”

    Manziel and Crowley remained together for a period of time after that, based on their tweets and Instagram posts.

    Again, it’s unclear if Crowley is the woman involved in this incident.

    Manziel’s publicist, Denise Michaels, declined comment. His agent, Erik Burkhardt, did not respond to a text and his lawyer and family friend, Brad Beckworth, has not returned a phone call.

    A source close to Manziel said friends have been worried about him for a period of months. One said he became a “train wreck” as the season wore on.

    Manziel, who spent 73 days in inpatient addiction treatment center last off-season, has been photographed frequently drinking alcohol over the past several months.

    Agamemnon

    Avatar photoAgamemnon
    Participant

    Joe Marino’s Most Intriguing 2016 Senior Bowl Players To Watch

    Written by Joe Marino on January 22, 2016

    I am making my first ever trip to Mobile for the 2016 Senior Bowl and I could not be more excited. Here are the players I am most “intrigued” to see in person.

    QB – Carson Wentz, North Dakota State: There is no other player entering Senior Bowl week that has more buzz and hype around him as much as Wentz. It’s obvious from film study that Wentz has all the tools and physical talent to become a starting NFL QB and potential high draft pick. How he stacks up against the best senior players in all of college football will be important for him considering his dominance was against FCS opponents.

    RB – Aaron Green, TCU: Green is fun to watch on tape. With tremendous burst, breakaway speed and ability to makeTCU RB Aaron Green precise cuts, Green has game breaking potential. That said, his physicality, vision and ability to pass block were issues this season. Green has ability but has a lot to prove.

    WR – Leonte Carroo, Rutgers: Carroo is a gifted football player with the ability to stretch the field and get behind secondaries. He tracks the football well and adjusts his body to the ball in the air. My top concerns with Carroo are his release and ability to gain body positioning on short routes. Mobile will be a tremendous opportunity to show growth in those areas.

    OT – Jason Spriggs, Indiana: Spriggs has the upside of a quality NFL starter on the left side. He has tremendous upside as a pass blocker with his excellent footwork, timing in his punch, length, bend and overall quickness. He has plenty of pop in his hands and power in his legs to move people as a run blocker. Has shown the ability to win in space, also. What worries me about Spriggs is over-committing to the outside rush and getting beat inside. He can also be too patient with his hands. If Spriggs delivers in Mobile I can see him drafted in the first round.

    OG – Joshua Garnett, Stanford: Garnett is an absolute mauler in the run game that dominates as a drive blocker and in space. There is no doubt who you run behind when you need a yard in short yardage situations. He will need to improve his footwork when facing quicker, twitchier defensive lineman but Garnett is a day one starter in a power scheme. He will be exciting to watch in one-on-one’s.

    C – Nick Martin, Notre Dame: My colleague Kyle Crabb’s recently tweeted out that Martin is criminally underrated and I agree. He won’t be after Senior Bowl week. Martin absorbs contact well and has a solid anchor. He is adept at picking up blocks in space and shows good timing in executing combo blocks on when to scrape to 2nd level. Martin plays with an aggressive play demeanor and has a mean streak. Look for him to be an ascending prospect.

    Edge – Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky: Spence has the makeup of an impactful NFL edge defender. It’s easy to identify his pass rushing upside and ability to force run plays back inside when setting the edge. He’s a twitchy edge EKY Edge Noah Spencerusher who alters offensive game plans and plays with good burst and bend off the edge. Spence has an excellent rip and shoulder dip with good closing burst to pressure and finish the passer. He attacks half a man and plays with consistent effort. He separates from blocks with quickness and hand usage and can physically sets the edge and forces plays inside and keep outside leverage. Spence will be given the chance to meet with teams and explain his multiple suspensions and dismissal from Ohio State.

    DT – Sheldon Rankins, Louisville: Rankins is a pure 3 technique with pass rushing upside that challenges with hands and has good power. He moves well laterally to get down the line and impact run plays and uses his length to keep separation from blockers. Rankins plays with good awareness/play recognition to read screenplays and come off rush to find target. He has a strong bull rush, arm over and rip to pressure passer. I don’t think he has the run stopping ability to be a majority of the snaps guy but he can get after the quarterback and has good physical tools.

    LB – Joe Schobert, Wisconsin: Schobert shows some pass rush ability by timing stunts, flashing speed to power and showing a shoulder dip. At times can set the edge and force plays back inside. That said he is a really poor tackle and is not consistent setting the edge. He also lacks fluidity in pass drops and gets stuck on blocks. I saw a very mixed bag of skills on tape so seeing him in Mobile will be intriguing.

    CB – Cyrus Jones, Alabama: Jones is a terrific athlete with fluid hips, excellent quickness and plenty of long speed. He is adept in both man and zone coverage with a strong ability to mirror and stay connected to his man. My knocks on Jones are that he struggles to get his head around and track the football. He will also rely on his athletic ability and can get sloppy with technique.

    S – Jeremy Cash, Duke: Cash is a physical, in-the-box safety that will be useful in specific schemes with a creative defensive coordinator. Although he doesn’t win in traditional ways, he is part of a new breed of faux linebacker that can be valuable in today’s NFL. Seeing how NFL coaches use him in Mobile will be interesting.

    http://draftbreakdown.com/joe-marinos-most-intriguing-2016-senior-bowl-players-to-watch/

    Agamemnon

    #37873
    Avatar photojoemad
    Participant

    So KC was the 1 nay vote for the Carson recommendation (alignment reasons)… I didn’t know which owner that was…..

    my apologies if the follow article has been posted… looks like Jerry Jones greased the skids to ease tension on the owner’s meeting in Houston.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-tick-tock-20160117-story.html

    A behind-the-scenes look at a Rams’ proposal the NFL couldn’t refuse

    The final steps in the National Football League’s return to Los Angeles began behind closed doors — with a coin flip.

    The St. Louis Rams won the right to go first, and their owner and a top executive made their pitch in the hotel ballroom, outlining plans for a multibillion-dollar stadium in Inglewood.

    Next came the backers of the Carson stadium proposal — the owners of the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders. Recruited to oversee that project was Disney Chairman and CEO Robert Iger, who spoke of his love for the NFL and his branding expertise and reminded the 32 owners that, as head of ESPN’s parent company, he had paid them all plenty of money over the years.

    After Iger left, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones pushed back his swivel chair and stood to address the room.

    “He said he paid us. Last time I checked, that money is coming from Disney shareholders, not him,” Jones said, touching off laughter.

    The moment of levity was a bad omen for the Carson project

    For 11 hours on Tuesday, the owners of America’s most profitable sports league — with $10 billion a year in revenue — were cloistered in the Azalea Ballroom of a Westin hotel just a short drive from an airport and their private jets.

    Their mission: to pick the teams and stadium that would bring professional football back to L.A. after a 21-year hiatus.

    Since the Rams and Raiders left Southern California following the 1994 season, numerous sites had been proposed for the NFL’s return. They included downtown L.A., Anaheim, Irvine, the City of Industry, the Rose Bowl, the Coliseum and even Chavez Ravine.

    Every proposal failed. Los Angeles had made it clear that no taxpayer money would be spent to lure a team.

    In many ways, L.A. was more valuable to the NFL without a team. The city was leverage, a threat that teams could use to extract public financing for new stadiums in their home cities.

    Things changed when Rams owner Stan Kroenke bought 60 acres of land next to the former Hollywood Park racetrack and a year later in 2015 revealed plans to build a stadium. What set Kroenke’s plan apart from past proposals was a crucial fact: He already owned a team that could be moved.

    At the time he didn’t commit to returning the Rams to L.A. from St. Louis, but the implications were clear.

    Six weeks later, a competing proposal emerged: The Chargers and Raiders wanted to construct a stadium on the site of a former landfill in Carson.

    In between the two announcements, the NFL created a committee of six owners to evaluate stadium options in L.A. and any possible relocation. NFL owners met repeatedly to hear presentations on the two L.A. projects as well as those in the three home markets trying to keep their teams.

    San Diego and St. Louis eventually assembled stadium proposals that included hundreds of millions of dollars in public financing, although San Diego’s hinged on a public vote later this year. Though Oakland city officials said they wanted to keep the Raiders, they did not offer the team any financial incentives or formal plan.

    On Jan. 4, the three teams, citing dissatisfaction with their stadiums and the proposed remedies from their home cities, applied to move to L.A.

    The NFL made it clear that the owners believed the L.A. market could support one team, and probably two, but not three. Among other things, there weren’t enough slots for broadcast outlets for three teams, and the city already had huge football fan bases for college teams, such as UCLA and USC.

    At least one professional football team was going to be turned away.

    By the time all the owners gathered here Tuesday, they were impatient for a deal. Four of the six owners on the L.A. committee had teams in the playoffs and another was in the midst of a coaching search.

    The league set aside two days for the meeting, but most of the owners wanted to resolve it in one. Nevertheless, the league had reserved hotel space in Dallas for the following week just in case.

    The details of the daylong session were pieced together from interviews with multiple owners, team executives and league officials, most speaking on the condition that they not be identified when describing confidential negotiations.

    The Rams opened their presentation with 30 renderings showing the sleek, low-slung stadium and surrounding development they wanted to build in Inglewood.

    Kevin Demoff, the team’s chief operating officer, said this would be much more than a stadium for one or two teams; the campus could house other league business ventures, such as NFL Network and NFL.com. Kroenke also spoke about his passion for the multibillion-dollar project.

    The team’s pitch closed with excerpts from two columns by Bill Plaschke of The Times pleading for the Rams to return to L.A. The Rams, Plaschke wrote, had deep roots in the community and they were Showtime before the Showtime Lakers.

    Chargers owner Dean Spanos and Raiders owner Mark Davis made brief comments about the Carson proposal.

    Then Iger took the floor. One of the world’s most powerful entertainment executives, he had been brought on two months earlier to lead the project if it were approved. He talked about how he had come to appreciate the stadium’s location, which he has said was ideal for the two franchises because it had good freeway access and was close to Orange County.

    In a corner of the ballroom, league staff had installed a computer and printer to generate paper ballots of new resolutions.

    When it came time to begin voting, the owners had to resolve an important matter: Would it be a secret ballot?

    Ordinarily, secret ballots are reserved for the most sensitive votes that owners cast — the selection of a new commissioner and the site of a Super Bowl. By a show of hands, they voted, 19-13, to keep this one secret.

    The mood was tense even though a consensus had been building among the owners in recent weeks for a hybrid option: pairing the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood and leaving the Raiders in Oakland. Neither of the original proposals had enough votes to prevail.

    The room was mostly quiet; many owners communicated by text message. Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, a member of the L.A. committee who supported Carson and orchestrated Iger’s involvement in the project, said little throughout the day.

    At one point, Iger ventured down from the fourth floor to the third, where more than 200 media members were stationed, to get a cup of coffee. Dozens of reporters swarmed him. Someone jokingly asked, “Don’t you wish there was coffee on the fourth floor?”

    Before the full membership voted, the L.A. committee recommended the Carson project by a 5-1 margin. But among the rest of the owners, momentum had been building for Inglewood.

    After two ballots, Inglewood was only three votes short of the 24 needed for approval. Owners saw a path toward a resolution. No one wanted to stand in the way of a project clearly preferred by the majority of owners.

    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell ushered the three owners seeking relocation into a private negotiation that lasted about an hour.

    Sensing the end was near, Jones had beer and wine delivered to the ballroom. The tension seemed to have ebbed.

    By the time Goodell and the three owners returned to the room, the Raiders had agreed to withdraw their bid to move to L.A.

    A proposal to pair the Rams in Inglewood with a team to be determined went before the owners. It passed by a 30-2 margin. The two who opposed the compromise remain a mystery.

    The agreement — which gave the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams in L.A. and the Raiders an identical right if the Chargers decline — was one that league staff had discussed for at least six months.

    To encourage the Rams to make a deal with a second team, the resolution barred the Rams from selling personal seat licenses, suites or naming rights until February 2017 unless another NFL team joins them before then.

    Minutes after the final vote, Goodell stood at a lectern before rows of reporters and a forest of television cameras. His eyes were tired, his voice weary.

    “It was a difficult decision for ownership,” Goodell said. “But we also realized that this was our opportunity.”

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    #37818
    Ozoneranger
    Participant

    BNW, you didn’t upset me. I apologize for not being clear. I just get frustrated when I hear stuff like, for example, Big Pharma is suppressing a cure for profit. If that were the case, then the industry would not have made the strides we have seen with HIV. Now that disease was a cash cow if there ever was one, due to myriad associated diseases it spawns, including various cancers. Cancer is a tough, mean bastard. Just getting new drugs through Phase 1-3 clinical trials can cost a billion and of course may not prove efficacy or have legs to allow a patient to live just a few more months.

    The other thing you mentioned, that cancer can go away by itself, untreated. That’s what’s known as spontaneous remission. This lucky group accounts for two percent of patients and doctors\researchers can’t explain it. If I were to get cancer, and most of us will if we live long enough, I wouldn’t leave it untreated. That’s just suicide. I followed two individuals on FB who decided to forgo SBM for quackery and woo. Like diet, Gerson therapy (juicing fruit and vegetable all day combined with coffee enemas) and holistic\naturopathic “medicine.” One died within the time frame for untreated BC, about 18-24 months is the median. The other is about to have a fungulating (sp) tumor burst from her skin. She’s treating it with black salve, which is like acid.

    The charlatans I mentioned take advantage of patients like these to make a profit themselves (see Natural News for one) and there’s a special place in hell for those fuckers. As my wife’s caregiver and advocate, I did my D&D and was shocked at what is shilled out there (cannabis oil, essential oils, mistletoe, vitamin c IVs, veganism and laetrile, which has been re-branded as Vitamin B-17. To name just a few) to vulnerable, scared people. SBM cancer treatment -conventional- is not easy to endure. My wife did pretty well in her first go round. But she also thought juicing and a vegan diet would prevent recurrence. She read that somewhere. It didn’t.

    Anyway, sorry for the rant. This -is- personal for me. And now, too, for my brother.

    Thanks for the kind words, by the way, gentlemen.

    Very well said, Ozone, and I am very sorry for your loss.

    A lot of woo surrounds the legalization of marijuana right now. Proponents are pointing to its curative powers over diseases including cancer. It’s total BS. Of course, it’s been established that marijuana can make you feel better and can lessen the uncomfortable side effects of chemo, but it will not cure your cancer.

    I’m in favor of the legalization of marijuana (and maybe all drugs FWIW) but making false claims about its healing properties won’t help the cause and can harm a great number of patients who require real evidenced based treatments.

    You’re exactly right. My wife had a medical marijuana card but rarely used it. The drugs medics provide for chemo relief worked well enough for her (the second round hit her like a truck, however-she had oxy for that). As for the medical uses, advocates are using false claims about cannabis as a vehicle for legalization. This is an atrocity and can be lethal when chosen as an alternative to SBM. I say just legalize the shit and tax the hell out of it.

    #37805
    Avatar photonittany ram
    Moderator

    BNW, you didn’t upset me. I apologize for not being clear. I just get frustrated when I hear stuff like, for example, Big Pharma is suppressing a cure for profit. If that were the case, then the industry would not have made the strides we have seen with HIV. Now that disease was a cash cow if there ever was one, due to myriad associated diseases it spawns, including various cancers. Cancer is a tough, mean bastard. Just getting new drugs through Phase 1-3 clinical trials can cost a billion and of course may not prove efficacy or have legs to allow a patient to live just a few more months.

    The other thing you mentioned, that cancer can go away by itself, untreated. That’s what’s known as spontaneous remission. This lucky group accounts for two percent of patients and doctors\researchers can’t explain it. If I were to get cancer, and most of us will if we live long enough, I wouldn’t leave it untreated. That’s just suicide. I followed two individuals on FB who decided to forgo SBM for quackery and woo. Like diet, Gerson therapy (juicing fruit and vegetable all day combined with coffee enemas) and holistic\naturopathic “medicine.” One died within the time frame for untreated BC, about 18-24 months is the median. The other is about to have a fungulating (sp) tumor burst from her skin. She’s treating it with black salve, which is like acid.

    The charlatans I mentioned take advantage of patients like these to make a profit themselves (see Natural News for one) and there’s a special place in hell for those fuckers. As my wife’s caregiver and advocate, I did my D&D and was shocked at what is shilled out there (cannabis oil, essential oils, mistletoe, vitamin c IVs, veganism and laetrile, which has been re-branded as Vitamin B-17. To name just a few) to vulnerable, scared people. SBM cancer treatment -conventional- is not easy to endure. My wife did pretty well in her first go round. But she also thought juicing and a vegan diet would prevent recurrence. She read that somewhere. It didn’t.

    Anyway, sorry for the rant. This -is- personal for me. And now, too, for my brother.

    Thanks for the kind words, by the way, gentlemen.

    Very well said, Ozone, and I am very sorry for your loss.

    A lot of woo surrounds the legalization of marijuana right now. Proponents are pointing to its curative powers over diseases including cancer. It’s total BS. Of course, it’s been established that marijuana can make you feel better and can lessen the uncomfortable side effects of chemo, but it will not cure your cancer.

    I’m in favor of the legalization of marijuana (and maybe all drugs FWIW) but making false claims about its healing properties won’t help the cause and can harm a great number of patients who require real evidenced based treatments.

    #37789
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    BNW, you didn’t upset me. I apologize for not being clear. I just get frustrated when I hear stuff like, for example, Big Pharma is suppressing a cure for profit. If that were the case, then the industry would not have made the strides we have seen with HIV. Now that disease was a cash cow if there ever was one, due to myriad associated diseases it spawns, including various cancers. Cancer is a tough, mean bastard. Just getting new drugs through Phase 1-3 clinical trials can cost a billion and of course may not prove efficacy or have legs to allow a patient to live just a few more months.

    The other thing you mentioned, that cancer can go away by itself, untreated. That’s what’s known as spontaneous remission. This lucky group accounts for two percent of patients and doctors\researchers can’t explain it. If I were to get cancer, and most of us will if we live long enough, I wouldn’t leave it untreated. That’s just suicide. I followed two individuals on FB who decided to forgo SBM for quackery and woo. Like diet, Gerson therapy (juicing fruit and vegetable all day combined with coffee enemas) and holistic\naturopathic “medicine.” One died within the time frame for untreated BC, about 18-24 months is the median. The other is about to have a fungulating (sp) tumor burst from her skin. She’s treating it with black salve, which is like acid.

    The charlatans I mentioned take advantage of patients like these to make a profit themselves (see Natural News for one) and there’s a special place in hell for those fuckers. As my wife’s caregiver and advocate, I did my D&D and was shocked at what is shilled out there (cannabis oil, essential oils, mistletoe, vitamin c IVs, veganism and laetrile, which has been re-branded as Vitamin B-17. To name just a few) to vulnerable, scared people. SBM cancer treatment -conventional- is not easy to endure. My wife did pretty well in her first go round. But she also thought juicing and a vegan diet would prevent recurrence. She read that somewhere. It didn’t.

    Anyway, sorry for the rant. This -is- personal for me. And now, too, for my brother.

    Thanks for the kind words, by the way, gentlemen.

    I tend to agree on the ‘new-age cures,’ Ozone.
    But then I don’t really know much about what the actual
    research shows.

    I read a little book called “snake oil science” a while back
    and it helped me understand that a LOT of alternative med-stuff
    has never really demonstrated that its better than a placebo.

    Anyway, I’m glad you are posting here. I wish we could all go
    back and have a ‘do-over’ on a lot of that ugliness that
    tore the old board apart. Ah well.

    w
    v

    #37763
    Ozoneranger
    Participant

    BNW, you didn’t upset me. I apologize for not being clear. I just get frustrated when I hear stuff like, for example, Big Pharma is suppressing a cure for profit. If that were the case, then the industry would not have made the strides we have seen with HIV. Now that disease was a cash cow if there ever was one, due to myriad associated diseases it spawns, including various cancers. Cancer is a tough, mean bastard. Just getting new drugs through Phase 1-3 clinical trials can cost a billion and of course may not prove efficacy or have legs to allow a patient to live just a few more months.

    The other thing you mentioned, that cancer can go away by itself, untreated. That’s what’s known as spontaneous remission. This lucky group accounts for two percent of patients and doctors\researchers can’t explain it. If I were to get cancer, and most of us will if we live long enough, I wouldn’t leave it untreated. That’s just suicide. I followed two individuals on FB who decided to forgo SBM for quackery and woo. Like diet, Gerson therapy (juicing fruit and vegetable all day combined with coffee enemas) and holistic\naturopathic “medicine.” One died within the time frame for untreated BC, about 18-24 months is the median. The other is about to have a fungulating (sp) tumor burst from her skin. She’s treating it with black salve, which is like acid.

    The charlatans I mentioned take advantage of patients like these to make a profit themselves (see Natural News for one) and there’s a special place in hell for those fuckers. As my wife’s caregiver and advocate, I did my D&D and was shocked at what is shilled out there (cannabis oil, essential oils, mistletoe, vitamin c IVs, veganism and laetrile, which has been re-branded as Vitamin B-17. To name just a few) to vulnerable, scared people. SBM cancer treatment -conventional- is not easy to endure. My wife did pretty well in her first go round. But she also thought juicing and a vegan diet would prevent recurrence. She read that somewhere. It didn’t.

    Anyway, sorry for the rant. This -is- personal for me. And now, too, for my brother.

    Thanks for the kind words, by the way, gentlemen.

    #37738
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    Unfortunately, I know a little about this subject. I lost my wife to breast cancer in September of 2014 and my sister in law is terminal.

    The article and PA have a few things right. We are making advances. Some cancers can be cured, even metastatic- testicular, for example. The problem is, it’s not going to be a one-size-fits-all cure. That’s impossible. Seven billion unique examples of the species is another obstacle. Cancer presents and kills in so many different ways. And each patient is unique. Some can fight stage 4 for years. Others last weeks or even days. My wife died 28 days after her metastases was diagnosed.

    I was happy to hear this news- I hope a “moonshot” approach is carried through to cures. Or at least bring it to the chronic level, just as we have accomplished with HIV\AIDS. I have visceral hatred this disease. For what it has robbed me and my family, as well as just about everyone one else.

    My condolences on your loss, Ozone. I lost my sister to cancer last summer, so I have some sense of what this is like. Not much I can say but I genuinely am sorry for your family’s suffering and your losses.

    #37663
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    Unfortunately, I know a little about this subject. I lost my wife to breast cancer in September of 2014 and my sister in law is terminal.

    The article and PA have a few things right. We are making advances. Some cancers can be cured, even metastatic- testicular, for example. The problem is, it’s not going to be a one-size-fits-all cure. That’s impossible. Seven billion unique examples of the species is another obstacle. Cancer presents and kills in so many different ways. And each patient is unique. Some can fight stage 4 for years. Others last weeks or even days. My wife died 28 days after her metastases was diagnosed.

    I was happy to hear this news- I hope a “moonshot” approach is carried through to cures. Or at least bring it to the chronic level, just as we have accomplished with HIV\AIDS. I have visceral hatred this disease. For what it has robbed me and my family, as well as just about everyone one else.

    I’m sorry about your wife,
    and the situation with your sister-in-law, Ozone.

    Seems like all the middle-aged folks
    on these boards have been touched
    by death or disease.

    w
    v
    “The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not ‘get over’ the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will heal and you will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same nor would you want to.”
    ― Elizabeth Kubler-Ross and John Kessler

    #37659
    Ozoneranger
    Participant

    Unfortunately, I know a little about this subject. I lost my wife to breast cancer in September of 2014 and my sister in law is terminal.

    The article and PA have a few things right. We are making advances. Some cancers can be cured, even metastatic- testicular, for example. The problem is, it’s not going to be a one-size-fits-all cure. That’s impossible. Seven billion unique examples of the species is another obstacle. Cancer presents and kills in so many different ways. And each patient is unique. Some can fight stage 4 for years. Others last weeks or even days. My wife died 28 days after her metastases was diagnosed.

    I was happy to hear this news- I hope a “moonshot” approach is carried through to cures. Or at least bring it to the chronic level, just as we have accomplished with HIV\AIDS. I have visceral hatred this disease. For what it has robbed me and my family, as well as just about everyone one else.

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    A behind-the-scenes look at a Rams’ proposal the NFL couldn’t refuse

    Sam Farmer and Nathan Fenno

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-tick-tock-20160117-story.html#nt=outfit

    The National Football League’s return to Los Angeles began behind closed doors — with a coin flip.

    The St. Louis Rams won the right to go first, and their owner and a top executive made their pitch in a hotel ballroom, outlining plans for a multibillion-dollar stadium in Inglewood.

    Next came the backers of the Carson stadium proposal — the owners of the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders. Recruited to oversee that project was Disney Chairman and CEO Robert Iger, who spoke of his love for the NFL and his branding expertise and reminded the 32 owners that, as head of ESPN’s parent company, he had paid them all plenty of money over the years.

    After Iger left, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones pushed back his swivel chair and stood to address the room.

    “He said he paid us. Last time I checked, that money is coming from Disney shareholders, not him,” Jones said, touching off laughter.

    The moment of levity was a bad omen for the Carson project.

    For 11 hours on Tuesday, the owners of America’s most profitable sports league — with $10 billion a year in revenue — were cloistered in a suburban hotel, just a half-hour from the small airport and their parked private jets.

    Their mission: to pick the teams and stadium that would bring professional football back to L.A. after a 21-year hiatus.

    Since the Rams and Raiders left Southern California following the 1994 season, multiple sites have been proposed for the NFL’s return. They included downtown L.A., Anaheim, Irvine, the City of Industry. The Rose Bowl, the Coliseum and even Chavez Ravine. Every proposal failed.

    Things changed when Rams owner Stan Kroenke bought 60 acres of land next to the former Hollywood Park racetrack and last year announced he planned to build a stadium. He didn’t commit to returning the Rams to L.A. from St. Louis. But the implications were clear.

    Six weeks later, a competing proposal emerged: The Chargers and Raiders wanted to construct a stadium on the site of a former landfill in Carson.

    In between the two proposals, the NFL created a committee of six owners to evaluate stadium options in L.A. and oversee any possible relocation. NFL owners met repeatedly to hear proposals on the two L.A. projects as well as those in the three home markets trying to keep their teams.

    San Diego and St. Louis eventually assembled stadium proposals that included hundreds of millions of dollars in public financing, although San Diego’s hinged on a public vote later this year.

    By the time they gathered in Houston on Tuesday, the owners were impatient for a deal. Four of the six owners on the L.A. committee had teams in the playoffs and another was in the midst of a coaching search.

    The league set aside two days for the meeting, but most of the owners wanted to resolve it in one. Nevertheless, the league had reserved hotel space in Dallas for the following week just in case.

    The details of the dramatic daylong session were pieced together from interviews with multiple owners, team executives and league officials, most speaking on the condition that they not be identified when describing confidential negotiations.

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    The Rams opened their presentation with 30 renderings showing the sleek, low-slung stadium and surrounding development they wanted to build in Inglewood.

    Kevin Demoff, the chief operating officer, said this would be much more than a stadium for one or two teams; the campus could house other NFL business ventures, such as NFL Network and NFL.com. Kroenke also spoke about his passion for the multibillion-dollar project.

    The team’s pitch closed with excerpts from two stories by Times columnist Bill Plaschke pleading for the Rams to return to L.A.

    The Carson backers began with brief comments by Chargers owner Dean Spanos and Raiders owner Mark Davis. Then Iger talked about how he grew to appreciate the stadium’s location.

    In a corner of the ballroom, league staff had installed a computer and printer to generate paper ballots of new resolutions.

    When it came time to begin voting, the owners had to resolve an important matter: Would it be a secret ballot?

    Ordinarily, secret ballots are reserved for the most sensitive votes that owners cast — the selection of a new commissioner and the site of a Super Bowl. By a show of hands, they voted, 19-13, to keep this one secret.

    The mood was tense even though a consensus had been building among the owners in recent weeks for a hybrid option: pairing the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood and leaving the Raiders in Oakland.

    The room was mostly quiet; many owners communicated by text message. Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, a member of the L.A. committee who supported Carson and orchestrated Iger’s involvement in the project, said little throughout the day.

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    At one point, Iger ventured down from the fourth-floor ballroom to the third floor, where more than 200 media members were stationed, to get a cup of coffee. Dozens of reporters swarmed him. Someone jokingly asked, “Don’t you wish there was coffee on the fourth floor?”

    Before the full membership voted, the L.A. committee recommended the Carson project by a 5-1 margin. In the end, the endorsement did not affect the outcome.

    Momentum was building for Inglewood. After two ballots, Inglewood was only three votes short of the 24 needed for approval. Owners saw a path toward a resolution — no one in the room wanted to stand in the way of a project clearly preferred by the majority of owners.

    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell ushered the three owners seeking relocation into a private negotiation that lasted about an hour.

    Sensing the end was near, Jones had beer and wine delivered to the ballroom for the remaining 29 owners. The tension seemed to have ebbed.

    By the time Goodell and the three owners returned to the ballroom, the Raiders had agreed to withdraw their bid to move to L.A.

    What would prove to be the final vote was taken on a proposal to pair the Rams and a team to be determined in Inglewood. It passed by a 30-2 margin. The two owners who opposed the compromise remain a mystery.

    The agreement — which gave the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams in L.A. and the Raiders an identical right if the Chargers decline — was an option league staff had discussed for at least six months.

    The resolution’s 939 words barred the Rams from selling personal seat licenses, suites or naming rights to the Inglewood stadium until February 2017 unless a second team joins them beforehand.

    Minutes after the final vote, Goodell stood at a lectern before rows of reporters and a forest of television cameras. His eyes were tired, his voice weary.

    “It was a difficult decision for ownership,” Goodell said. “But we also realized that this was our opportunity.”

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    Practice Report 12/16: Defending Winston and Martin, Donald Wins POTW

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-practicereport/Practice-Report-1216-Defending-Winston-and-Martin-Donald-Wins-POTW/87232f82-3532-41fb-878d-41891db1082f

    When the Rams and Buccaneers last met in Week 2 of 2014, both teams looked vastly different than they do now. Among the many changes, safety Mark Barron was on the opposite sideline, putting big hits on St. Louis players instead of the club’s opponents as he’s routinely done since the trade that brought him to town.

    But there may not be a more significant change than the man who is behind center for Tampa Bay, Jameis Winston.

    As the No. 1 overall pick in this year’s draft, there were clearly high expectations for Winston. And according to Buccaneers head coach Lovie Smith, the rookie has done well to meet them.

    “He was a rookie quarterback coming in, but Jameis Winston has been just outstanding in any way you want to evaluate a player,” Smith said this week. “On the football field, it’s documented how intelligent he is and he’s a football junky. He can throw a football, so everything you’re looking for in a franchise quarterback, he has. He came in well-advertised, but you could say that he’s even been better than that.”

    According to head coach Jeff Fisher, the Rams studied Winston throughout the draft process and got to know him. And now that he’s playing, Fisher said it’s clear how much the quarterback has improved throughout the year.

    “I think the thing that’s most impressive about Jameis is that their offense is at 42 percent on third down right now,” Fisher said. “When you play a rookie quarterback all year and they’re converting 42 percent of their third downs — that’s impressive.”

    “You can see why he was the first pick,” defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said. “And you can tell from a leadership standpoint, there are those natural leaders and there are those guys who kind of evolve into leadership. You can see he’s a natural leader. You can see those guys respond to him. So I’m anxious to see him in person.”

    Anyone who watched the 2014 BCS National Championship game between Florida State and Auburn probably remembers Winston’s competitive nature that helped bring his team down the field for a game-winning touchdown drive. Linebacker James Laurinaitis said that’s still apparent from what he’s seen of Winston in the league so far.

    “You can tell the team really believes in him,” Laurinaitis said. “Late in games, he’ll do whatever it takes — whether it’s scrambling, he’ll shrug off tackles, make big throws.”

    “I think he’s going to be a star,” Laurinaitis added. “You can tell he’s a fighter and one of those guys who wants the ball at the end of the game. You can sense it. He’s a heck of a ball player.”

    Listed at 6-foot-4 and 231 pounds, Winston can be a load to take down. Defensive tackle Aaron Donald knows that well, as he faced the quarterback in college at Pitt.

    “Make sure you get your big-boy pads on, because he’s not going to let you get him down easily,” Donald said. “He actually got away from me. I should’ve gotten him three times and he got away from me two times. So I owe him. But he’s a big quarterback, he can move around in the pocket, and he can throw the big passes downfield.”

    “One of the most dominant guys in the pocket is Ben [Roethlisberger],” Williams said. “We’ve even kind of said a few things about that similarity in the pocket. He doesn’t go down easily. He’s very strong in the pocket. He’s got decent speed, not great speed, but you have a hard time bringing him down because of his size.”

    While Winston may garner many of the headlines, running back Doug Martin has been just as important for the Buccaneers’ offense. Martin is No. 2 in the NFL with 1,214 yards rushing in 2015, trailing Adrian Peterson by just 37 yards.

    “He has unbelievable vision. He runs hard and behind his pads well,” Laurinaitis said. “I’m glad that he’s healthy and playing well again. You always want to play against their best players. He’s playing really well, and he’s patient, and finds holes. He’ll sliver through that hole and the next thing you know, he’s off to the races. I’ve got a lot of respect for him.”

    “He has had on film the most explosive runs that I’ve seen anybody all year long that we’ve played,” Williams said. “He has really done a great job with explosive runs. They’ve done a very good job in their run blocking schemes.”

    Plus, the short week presents its own set of challenges for defensive preparation.

    “I think our guys have done a very good job of adjusting to the schedule,” Williams said. “From the assistants to everybody on, they’ve got to handle the information quick, guys process it quick. We’ve had some good work this week, so I’m anxious to see them play tomorrow night.”

    DONALD WINS PLAYER OF THE WEEK

    With his 3.0 sacks and six quarterback hits against the Lions on Sunday, defensive tackle Aaron Donald was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week on Wednesday morning.

    “It means a lot — being a younger guy, to only be in this league for two years,” Donald said Wednesday. “But like I always say, hard work pays off. So just watching it pay off, it feels good.”

    Donald has put together a stellar second NFL season, as he’s now just a half-sack away from the Rams’ single-season record by a defensive tackle. D’Marco Farr set the mark with 11.5 in 1995, and now Donald has a good chance to break it 20 years later.

    “It would mean a lot, but right now I’m just trying to do my job and help my team win,” Donald said. “If it comes, it comes. If not, I’m just going to do my part.”

    INJURY REPORT

    With the short practice week now complete, the Rams should be relatively healthy heading into Thursday’s matchup.

    Running back Todd Gurley (rest), wide receiver Kenny Britt (shoulder), and right tackle Rob Havenstein (calf) are all listed as probable.

    Cornerback Janoris Jenkins (concussion) has cleared all steps of the protocol and the exertion phase, and is also listed as probable.

    Cornerback Eric Patterson (ankle) did not practice on Wednesday and is listed as questionable.

    Defensive end Robert Quinn (back) and offensive lineman Andrew Donnal (knee) have both been declared out.

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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher –– 12/16/15

    (On if he’s ready for the game)
    “We are ready. They had a great day today. Today’s Friday for us in our world and then we have a walk-thru this evening, which becomes Saturday and then we go tomorrow. So yeah, we had a good day. Legs are back and it looked like everybody is doing well.”

    (On how CB Janoris Jenkins came out of the concussion protocol)
    “He’s been cleared and he was full practice today and he’s probable.”

    (On if Jenkins playing will help)
    “That’ll help, yeah.”

    (On if RB Todd Gurley and T Rob Havenstein were full practice today)
    “Yes. Everybody was full and probable. They’re both probable. So we healed up. We’ve got a big challenge. The thing is, from a defensive standpoint, it’s stopping their run. They’re really well-coached up front and they can run the football. The back is a really good back. The young back out of the backfield has got a bunch of catches and they create match-ups for you. Their tight ends are blocking real well. They do a lot of different personnel groupings and it’s a well-coached offense. We’ve got to keep (Tampa Bay QB) Jameis (Winston) in the pocket.”

    (On if he was happier with his run defense last week)
    “No. We were a little better, but still, we gave up some plays. It’s going to happen. People are going to run the football at times against you. You’ve got to tackle. You’ve got to be gap sound in your fits. This team can run the football. You go back and look at some games, they ran it against some decent defenses.”

    (On if he’s heard any news on WR Stedman Bailey)
    “He’s progressing. As I mentioned, he’s out of intensive care. He’s in-patient. It appears that within the next week or so, he’ll be released from the hospital, so it’s good news.”

    (On if Bailey will make an appearance at Rams Park)
    “Don’t know. Eventually he will. But, don’t know whether he’s been cleared to travel right now.”

    Rams Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams – 12/16/15

    (On if the team is practicing at the Edward Jones Dome tonight)
    “We’ll go through a walk-thru tonight, which is kind of cool. (Head Coach) Jeff’s (Fisher) been doing that for a long time on our Thursday night schedule, so we’ll go down there tonight and simulate some things tonight. We’ll go through our final things. What we do is we cram all of our practices into short week. Tonight’s like our Saturday, like on a true week. This morning was a lot like our Friday practice, which is good. We’ve got all of our reps. I think our guys have done a very good job of adjusting to the schedule. A lot of credit goes to (Director/Sports Medicine & Performance) Reggie (Scott) and (Head Strength & Conditioning Coach) Rock (Gullickson) and their staffs on getting those guys ready to go. From the assistants and everybody on is that they have to handle the information quick. Guys process it quick. We’ve had some good work this week, so I’ll be anxious to see them play tomorrow night.”

    (On what he sees from Buccaneers QB Jameis Winston on film)
    “Very, very impressed. I think (Buccaneers Offensive Coordinator) Dirk Koetter…I have a lot of respect for him. Dirk and I coached together many years ago. I think he’s done a fantastic job with the kid. You can see why he was the first pick and he and (Titans QB) Marcus (Mariota) both deserved to be up there in the draft. They have played very well. Jameis is really improved as the year’s gone on. He’s not afraid to throw it into tight coverage. You have to be able to do that to play quarterback at our level. You can’t be afraid of small windows of opportunity – he’s not. He’s done a very good job and you can tell from a leadership standpoint, there are those natural leaders and there are those guys that kind of evolve into leadership. You can see he’s a natural leader. You can see those guys respond to him. So, I’m anxious to see him in person. On film, he looks very, very good.”

    (On Buccaneers WR Mike Evans)
    “Very big. We went against him last year, had a chance to see some of him last year. Our guys in the match-up, there’s still a few guys there from our early game last year on the match-ups. I talk to our guys all the time about making a book and basically, you’re always taking notes. You’re taking notes on guys in practice you’ll practice against. You’re taking notes on guys in the preseason, during the regular season because in our league, you could end up anywhere in free agency, you bounce around. So hopefully, they took some notes from last year, and understand some of the techniques and some of the presence of physical ability on those guys. Mike does a very good job. He’s got a big catch radius. He runs very well for a big guy, too. We went against some this year, some big guys anyway. Last week, we had some big guys. So hopefully, we can transition into this plan, too.”

    (On Buccaneers RB Doug Martin averaging almost 100 yards a game)
    “I know our guys are sick and tired of me this week of pounding that point in the meeting, but he has had, on film, the most explosive runs that I’ve seen anybody all year long we’ve played. He has really done a great job in the explosive runs. They’ve done a very good job in their run-blocking scheme. (Buccaneers Offensive Line Coach) George Warhop, I’ve known him for a long time, too, their line coach does a really good job. I see his teachings and his fundamental skill sets of what he asks his guys to do is very recognizable to me. Hopefully, it will be recognizable to our guys. But, I think Doug has played very well. He’s healthy this year. He’s played healthy this year and he’s been really explosive. Once he gets out there in the open field, it’s a tough time getting him down.”

    (On if Winston is harder to bring down than the average quarterback)
    “He’s very strong. He’s a big guy, but there’s a lot of the guys in this league. One of the most dominant guys in the pocket is Ben, whenever you play (Steelers QB Ben) Roethlisberger, but we’ve even kind of said a few things about that similarity in the pocket. He doesn’t go down easy. He’s very strong in the pocket. He’s got decent speed, not great speed, but you have a hard time bringing him down because of his size.”

    (On the difference in Tampa Bay’s offensive line this year compared to last year establishing their run game)
    “I think they’ve played it with each other a little bit longer. I know last year (Buccaneers G) Logan (Mankins) had just gotten there at the end of the regular season. You can see his leadership also there. They’ve moved some pieces around and it’s just one more time around with the coaching staff there. Don’t discount Dirk Koetter’s ability to get his point across. I really respect him a lot. In coaching, in teaching, in sales, in leadership – whatever it is, you’ve got to get people to listen to you. Dirk has that skill set. Dirk has an ability to get anybody, whether you’re a future Hall of Famer or whether you’re a guy that just barely made the team, he can get you listen to him. He’s done a very good job, in a short amount of time, of getting them all on the same page.”

    (On where he coached with Koetter)
    “I was at Jacksonville. Yeah, I left the Redskins and then went down there with him and with (Jack) Del Rio and those guys. He did a really good job down there. Mike Tice was there, too, Andy Heck and all those guys. It was a pretty good staff.”

    (On when Koetter was at Missouri)
    “He was there. I ran into him obviously being from the state and everything, I ran into him, too back in those days, too. I didn’t know him as well until I worked with him.”

    (On if he’s trying to emphasize the things he’s seen Winston not do well or is he trying to give him new looks)
    “You’d hope… I think he is a very, very study conscious young man. I think the word on the street, we tease about that a little cliché, that he is a study-a-holic. But, you would hope that a young guy hasn’t seen some of the pictures that we can paint and disguise. But, he’s done very well. Dirk does a good job on causing defenses to all of a sudden show their hand on how you pull the defense out of showing your hand. Now, it becomes more of a mono e mono, one on one match-up, can you win your match-up? But, we hope that we can present some pictures to him. We’re based that way, anyway. It’s been kind of…my portfolio is to do that quite a bit. When you’re at this time of the season, you’ve got a lot of snaps on film. There’s no doubt in my mind, he’s studied them all.”

    Rams RB Todd Gurley – 12/16/15

    (On how he got to know Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston)
    “We played in a high school All-American game back in high school, so we’ve been cool ever since then.”

    (On if they’ve kept in contact over the years)
    “Yeah, that’s my boy.”

    (On if he’s been exchanging messages with him this week)
    “Just texting me. He texted me earlier and told me good game and just asking, ‘How you doing? How you feeling?’ We talk once a week, so we always talk.”

    (On how meaningful it will be to get 1,000 rushing yards)
    “It’ll be cool. Shout out to my linemen and the whole team for helping me get there. I definitely didn’t do everything on my own.”

    (On if his lighter practice schedule this week has helped him get ready for the game)
    “This is my first Thursday night game, so there’s definitely a big difference from playing Sunday to Sunday than going Sunday to Thursday. Coach has looked out for me earlier in this week. Just got to be ready to go tomorrow.”

    (On what he thinks about the Rookie of the Year race)
    “I’m not worried about all of that. Just trying to finish the season off strong.”

    (On if it normally takes a few days to get the body back after having 20-25 carries)
    “Oh yeah, it definitely takes until about Tuesday or Wednesday to start feeling back right again.”

    (On what he sees from the Tampa Bay defense)
    “Very physical front. They’ve got the Tampa 2. They’ve got some great players, great linebackers. Definitely got great speed. Just a good awareness to the ball. (DT Gerald) McCoy down there in the tackle position. He’s just a game wrecker. You definitely have got to be aware of him.”

    (On if he was excited that coaches wanted to run the ball in the second half of the Detroit game)
    “You definitely get excited. I feel like my biggest thing last game was that I had those two plays at the end of the half that I felt like could have went for big yards. I missed the trap and the screen play, so I was definitely eager to get back out there in the second half.”

    (On how much he relishes in facing another elite back even though they don’t face off head-to-head)
    “It’s always, like you said I’m not playing against him, but when you see a guy over there doing his thing, it definitely motivates you to want to get on the field and put up some yards. So, that’ll definitely be good. He’s a great running back.”

    (On if he likes the color rush uniforms)
    “Yeah, they’re pretty cool. Something different. It’s pretty cool.”

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    from BEST PLAYERS AT EVERY POSITION FROM WEEK 14

    Todd Gurley and Cam Newton highlight Khaled Elsayed’s list of the top performers at every position in Week 14.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/14/pro-best-players-at-every-position-from-week-14/

    Running Back: Todd Gurley, Rams (+2.6)

    This is more like it from Gurley, who found his spark this week and promptly used just 31 snaps and 16 rushes to put a world of pain on the Lions. When he’s good, he’s very good.

    Defensive interior – Ends: Aaron Donald, Rams (+6.9), and Kawann Short, Panthers (+6.7)

    Another appearance for Donald, who had three sacks, three further hits, and another hurry, as he continues to make his case for Defensive Player of the Year. Short might not be at that level (yet), but with two sacks and two forced fumbles, he’s already something of a playmaker.

    Cornerbacks: Trumaine Johnson, Rams (+5.2) and Ronald Darby, Bills (+4.1)

    We were starting to worry if Darby had hit a rookie wall, but he was back to his best as he allowed just three-of-seven balls into his coverage to be completed, breaking up two for good measure. Johnson had one of the plays of the day with his patient pick-six, continuing his much improved season.

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    The Best Offensive Minds

    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/12/02/nfl-mike-martz-adam-gase-mike-mccoy-mike-mccarthy-best-offensive-minds

    Mike Martz, architect of The Greatest Show on Turf, breaks down the game-planning and play-calling of the NFL’s top three offensive coaches. Here’s what you should know about Mike McCoy, Adam Gase and Mike McCarthy
    by Robert Klemko


    SAN DIEGO — Football always seemed like war to Mike Martz. Not the carnage and loss—those don’t compare—but the strategy. Calling shots with the big-picture view of a general, he loved the way offensive football felt like moving 18th-century battalions into the right position to stun the opposition. Attack and counterattack.

    Fitting then, that his favorite book isn’t one of the Lombardi biographies or the spiritual tome My Utmost for His Highest, sitting within arm’s reach on the auburn desk inside the basement office of his San Diego home. It’s 1776, David McCullough’s telling of the bloody birth of the United States. Of particular interest to Martz are the military exploits of the Revolutionary War’s most famous general.

    “I kind of thought I knew George Washington and his career,” he says. “But the author wrote this book so personally. Washington never buckled, and if he did, nobody ever knew about it.

    “The thing I really admire is he was always a step ahead. Even though it might have hurt him, the emotion of losing New York, you have to find a way to get back in the fight. That’s a lot like football: Take the emotion out of it and fix the problem.”

    Three years removed from his last coaching gig as the Bears’ offensive coordinator, Martz, 63, spends most of his days in his three-story home, which sits on a hill in a cul-de-sac neighborhood overlooking the coast. His office is just big enough for a desk and a few dozen mementos that tell the story of a football life.

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    Mike Martz, best known for overseeing The Greatest Show on Turf, in the basement office of his San Diego home, where he watched game tape with The MMQB. (Robert Klemko)

    There’s a framed photo of his grandfather’s 1902 Yankton High football team, which won South Dakota’s state championship. (Martz keeps a vacation home in South Dakota, where he was born, and has made a hobby of photographing its cascading mountains and snowscapes.) There’s a game ball from a 2002 win over the Raiders, the Rams’ first victory after losing Kurt Warner and five straight games to start the season.

    There’s a signed bat from Stan Musial, the baseball Hall of Famer who lunched with Martz when Martz was the head coach in St. Louis. Authentic NFL helmets, given to him an equipment manager friend in 2000, line the ceiling. There’s a sun-bleached Super Bowl XXXIV replica trophy from 1999, Martz’s first season as the Rams’ coordinator.

    After 38 years of coaching, Martz’s legacy boils down to the Greatest Show on Turf, the record-setting offense he engineered with coach Dick Vermeil and quarterback Kurt Warner in St. Louis. They were innovators who introduced the new concepts they dreamed up on napkins and notepads, picking apart defenses with the likes of Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt.

    I’m meeting with him in his basement, seeking the answer to a broad-sweeping question: Who are the NFL’s new offensive pioneers?

    “There was a time in the league when people were really creative, but that’s gone,” says Martz, picking through a pile of game-film DVDs that coaching friends and former protégés have mailed him. “There are a few guys who really know what they’re doing and are trying new things—or just putting a twist on old things.”

    Martz entered the NFL in the early 1990s, as Buddy Ryan’s zone blitz or “zone dog” concepts were giving offenses fits. Watch any VHS tape of an NFL game from that decade and you’ll see two receivers releasing on third down, sometimes with tight ends and running backs held in to block—an unthinkable and downright boring tactic by today’s standards.

    “At the time, defense dominated football,” Martz says. “Offense didn’t have an answer for zone dog, so they just brought in more guys to block. It was frustrating. Defense dictated the game. We tried to flop that.”

    Martz’s answer was to vary personnel groups, creating mismatches by running the same play out of five different formations. He and his offensive contemporaries began emphasizing pre-snap motion to identify coverages and defensive plans. Soon enough, offenses began dictating the game. The 2000 Rams set an NFL record with 7,335 yards from scrimmage, surpassing the 1984 Dolphins’ mark by nearly 300 yards. (The Rams’ mark has since been surpassed by the 2011 Saints and the 2013 Broncos.)

    Using the numbers system for offensive play-calling handed down by Don Coryell, which is still in vogue with a handful of coaches, Martz came into his own as a game-planner and a play-caller just as the Rams accidentally discovered Warner, a former Arena league quarterback who turned out to be one of the greatest passers in a generation.

    Twelve years and two Super Bowl appearances later, Martz resigned from his coordinator job in Chicago after the 2011 season, citing philosophical differences. Bears quarterback Jay Cutler later suggested the game had passed him by. Martz, who declined to speak about Cutler, says the opposite. Part of him wants another shot. A larger part of him is happy just watching the occasional game tape.

    As he loads up the first DVD, Martz takes one look at the Broncos’ offense and the Colts’ defense and sighs.

    “You know what’s funny?” he says. “I just realized I don’t know half these guys’ names anymore.”

    What he recognizes these days is great coaching.

    The three names Martz wants you to know—Adam Gase, the Bronco’s offensive coordinator; Mike McCoy, the Chargers’ head coach; and Mike McCarthy, the Packers head coach—are the types of game-planners and play-callers who make him long for the action on Sunday afternoons.

    Adam Gase — Matchup Nightmares

    Martz uses a clicker to go through Denver’s season-opening win over the Colts. We watch every play two or three times, an old habit for the coach. On Mondays after games he might have watched the tape four times—by himself, with the coaches, with the quarterback, and, finally with the offense.

    We’re on a hunt for the coaching identity of Adam Gase, the Broncos’ 36-year-old coordinator. He began as a scouting assistant in Detroit in 2003 under Steve Marriucci and worked his way up to quarterbacks coach by 2007, the last of Martz’s two years as offensive coordinator with the Lions. After two seasons in Denver, Gase is arguably No. 1 on the unofficial list of head coaching candidates for 2015.

    Martz hones in on one particular run. With 9:28 left in the first quarter, Montee Ball runs off tackle for four yards. No big deal, right? Watch again. There’s motion on the bottom of the screen. Gase knows from his film study that it’s de facto policy for the Colts to drop the strongside safety into the box when the offense is in a bunch formation, and to retreat the weakside safety. So he motions a receiver into bunch, and Manning immediately calls for the snap.

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    Ball takes the handoff with both safeties out of their ideal positions; one is even retreating away from the play. If Ball had made it beyond the first level, he had nothing but open field.

    “This is big,” Martz says. “Playing defense is about rules. If you understand their rules, you can put them in bad positions.”

    The Broncos have had problems running the ball, ranking 27th in the NFL in yards per game. Some of that falls on Manning as a play-caller. But Martz also sees it as a symptom of inexperience. Gase only sprinkles in the occasional zone-blocking run. “If you want to run zone-running plays, you have to do it over and over again. You have to have reps,” Martz says. “Twenty years ago it was difficult to evaluate quarterbacks because they might have thrown 120 times a year. Now it’s 450. You used to be able to evaluate running backs. Now that’s switched.”

    Where Gase thrives, though, is in the passing game.

    Second quarter, 6:50 remaining. Martz recognizes an old standby: 288 special, so named by Coryell. Two receivers run identical posts on the left side of the field, hence ‘88’.

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    On their way to winning Super Bowl XXXIV, Martz ran this exact play on the Rams’ first snap of their divisional-round victory over the Vikings in January 2000. Isaac Bruce took the inside post route 78 yards for a touchdown. On the Fox broadcast, John Madden exclaimed, “He did it!” So confident was Dick Vermeil that he told the broadcast crew they would run 288 on the first play. In the aftermath, Madden drew it up as only he can.

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    The Rams got the play from Norv Turner, who at the time “used to run the heck out of it,” Martz says. But Gase runs his own tweaked version of 288, which demonstrates his ability to create mismatches. On this play against Indianapolis, Gase positions his best pass-catching tight end, Julius Thomas, in a three-point stance, and a blocking tight end as the wing. Thomas will cross the field and the face of the defense.

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    Consider these contingencies:

    A) If the Colts are in man defense, Gase and Manning know the linebacker will cover the tight end on the inside while the better-qualified safety will check the wing, because most offenses position the more agile player as the wing. Julius Thomas would then be covered by linebacker D’Qwell Jackson. No-brainer.

    B) If the Colts are in a Cover 2, Manning will try to look off one of the safeties and throw the open post.

    C) If it’s Cover 3, Thomas might still be open underneath, and you can always check down to the running back.

    The Colts were in man coverage, and Thomas beat Jackson (of course) for a 35-yard touchdown.

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    “As a coach,” Martz says, “you have to have an answer for the quarterback so he knows where he’s supposed to go with the ball against every coverage. If Thomas was the wing, the safety would cover him. But by sticking him inside, now that linebacker has him. The safety wants to cover, and it’s logical for the safety to cover him, but he’s told not to.

    “That, by design, is outstanding. It’d be easy to put him on the wing, but Adam knows the defense’s rules. All the little details work out really well. Very few people do this.

    “They’ve got good players, and he knows what to do with them. He puts guys in position to have success. It would be easy to do the same stuff over and over, but each week he’s going to create.”

    Mike McCoy — Deciphering Defenses

    My trip to San Diego included a conversation with Mike McCoy on the progress of Philip Rivers. It was McCoy who had impressed upon Rivers in 2013 the value of what some call the dink-and-dunk: As a quarterback, read almost everything in the passing game from low to high, rather than from high to low. Asked how many quarterbacks would be better in that sort of offense, McCoy said, “All 32 of them.”

    Martz’s offenses were never so patient, but in the Chargers head coach he sees football’s best offensive mind, saying, “I think right now he might be the best head coach in the league.”

    Martz pulls up San Diego’s signature win of the season, a dethroning of sorts of the Seahawks in Week 2.

    “Here’s how they won this game, and it wasn’t a fluke,” Martz says. “Real low risk, didn’t ask Rivers to hold the ball long or throw it down the field. Just run downhill on these guys. A team like Seattle that does a lot of stuff on defense, they can stunt themselves right out of the running game.”

    During their opening drive, which resulted in a field goal, the Chargers lined up in a left-heavy formation, got set, and then abruptly shifted to the right, sending Seattle’s defense into disarray. The result: a four-yard gain off tackle.

    Here’s what the Seahawks’ defense looked like just before the ball was snapped:

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    “Whether it’s a good play or a bad play, he’s got them on their heels,” Martz says. “To get three yards on these guys is tough in the running game. No. 93 doesn’t even have his hand on the ground and he’s getting ear-holed at the snap.

    “Anytime you can get a defense just a half a step off, you’ve got a leg up on them.”

    A testament to Seattle’s defense, the Chargers had less than 70 rushing yards in their 30-21 win. Most of the offensive production rested on Rivers and the passing game. At the beginning of the next drive, the Chargers’ formation caused Seattle’s linebackers to betray a careful disguise.

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    Antonio Gates motioned inside from the right, and nobody on defense moved a muscle. That’s by design: Carroll and Quinn want the passer to think he’s playing against a zone, but it’s really a man defense with rules that say the strongside linebacker covers the slot receiver and the safety covers the second receiver from the sideline.

    “Seattle’s whole thing is disguising the coverage and beating you at the line of scrimmage before you recuperate,” Martz says. “That’s how they won the Super Bowl.”

    The hope is that a five-man rush can get there before Rivers figures it out.

    But the Chargers’ pre-snap alignment gives Rivers a glimpse of Seattle’s scheme. Because the running back is to the right of the quarterback on the three-receiver side, linebacker Malcolm Smith lines up over the center. Though he doesn’t want to betray Seattle’s ruse, Smith also doesn’t want to get beaten on a route to the strongside flat. “Rivers recognizes this,” Martz says, “and you don’t figure that out without being prepared and having a very specific understanding of how the defense will react to your sets.”

    Rivers knows it’s man coverage, and he also knows linebacker Bobby Wagner is responsible for Antonio Gates, who catches the ball 15 yards downfield.

    “Know the man coverage beater on every play,” Martz says. “The first thing he’s looking at is the linebackers. If they’re out of position, he’s not even looking downfield. He’s checking down. That’s too easy.”

    Mike McCarthy — Understanding Tendencies

    Great football tickles Mike Martz. Outstanding audibles make him squeal. Well-drawn-up plays send him into man-crush mode.

    “You want to talk about a great coach?” he asks. “Check out Mike McCarthy.”

    His level of preparation is what stands out the most. We watch only 30 seconds of Green Bay’s Week 5 victory over Minnesota before identifying something special.

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    On first-and-10 near midfield, Rodgers recognizes a defensive alignment and checks to a run off the left guard. Eddie Lacy takes the handoff for 29 yards, setting up a Packers touchdown.

    “This is a run check. See the two tackles, outside shade on the guards? You never have that unless it’s third-and-long. It’s probably going to be a double plug up the middle by the backers. So you check to this run, and if he gets through there, there’s no scraping linebacker. You’ve got to look at a lot of tape and really understand the defense to know that’s going to happen.”

    The ensuing touchdown was an eight-yard flip to Randall Cobb, who has 922 receiving yards and 10 touchdowns through 12 games. Says Martz, “I tried to get Chicago to draft him, but they said, ‘No. Too little, not really a receiver.’ ”

    We skip ahead to Rodgers’ 66-yard touchdown bomb to Jordy Nelson, who beats safety Harrison Smith with a double move to the post. The play appears to be a masterly combination of ability, planning and execution. Martz explains the concept of boundary coverage. When the offense is on a particular hash mark, the wider side of the field is known as ‘field.’ Some coordinators will ask one safety to cover the short half, and two other players to split the larger ‘field’ in half.

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    “This cracks me up. McCarthy knows that when he’s in a certain personnel, [Vikings head coach Mike] Zimmer will leave the safety on the short side of the field responsible for half the field with the safety and the other cornerback responsible for the other half. His stat guy is telling him that.

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    “He runs play-action to give Jordy Nelson time to execute the double-move,” Martz says. “The receiver on the bottom runs a dig, because McCarthy knows the safety will bite on it. That leaves Jordy Nelson and No. 22 [Smith] all alone back there. Any safety back there might not be able to cover that.

    “This is what it’s all about. When you know the defensive rules and you don’t take advantage of them, you ought to be fired.”

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    Retired NFL players talk about struggling to find what comes next. After his last coaching gig, Martz got an immediate answer: television. He worked as an analyst for Fox for a year but found the work impersonal and the workplace fractured by politics.

    The idea of getting back into coaching is enticing, and he has no shortage of friends still in the business. Of the 22 players who started during his senior year at Fresno State, 17 went into coaching. (Martz was a tight end.) There are consulting offers to be had, similar to Al Saunders’ role in Oakland. But being the experienced voice that chimes in with advice doesn’t appeal to Martz. Eventually, he’d want to run the show.

    “I think about going back all the time,” he says. “But you can’t just kind of go back. You’ve got to go back and do it right.”

    For him, that would mean going to a team that values innovation around a traditional dropback quarterback.

    “Personnel guys fall in love with a guy who can make plays with his legs,” Martz says of quarterbacks such as Robert Griffin III and Michael Vick. “You tell a personnel guy, ‘OK, your job depends on whether he can win games for us, and if you’re telling me he’s going to win us games by running the football, you’re nuts.’ Then they start having second thoughts.

    “Your quarterback has to be a terrific passer first. See the field, make good decisions, and then throw it straight. That’s where RG3 fails. He wants to hold onto the ball when he should let it loose. You can’t cloud up the fact that this game is still played by passers.”

    It’s something that Gase, McCoy and McCarthy know better than anyone else.

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    mfranke
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    RamView, November 29, 2015
    Game #11: Bengals 31, Rams 7

    It’s Thanksgiving time in Cincinnati, and somewhere Jeff Fisher is saying, as God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. In this week’s spiritless, feckless, hapless, worthless blowout loss to the Bengals, his team soared like turkeys and looked every bit like a team just playing out the string. Pass the gravy.

    Position by position:
    * QB: Nick Foles’ (30-46-228, 3 INT, PR 49.9) toughness this season has been admirable, and he made a couple of good plays this week, but those were tiny flowers poking out of the massive heap of, um, compost that is the Ram offense and Nick’s game. After the offense started the game with an ugly 3-and-out, Foles threw ugly passes behind Jared Cook and Kenny Britt before hitting Cook over the middle for 16. He’d keep the drive alive on 3rd-and-2 by scrambling and backing over A.J. Hawk, but, classic Fisherball, classic Foles, settled for a 3-yard pass to Brian Quick on a 3rd-and-8. More classic Fisherball, the Rams got the ball back across midfield, gained one yard, punted. Down 17-7 before halftime, Foles appeared to rally. Always under pressure from the right side, he hung tough to hit Britt for 18 and beat a 3rd-and-7 blitz to hit Britt for 15 more down to the Bengal 22. The Rams should at least close the gap, right? No, Foles forces a throw for Cook inside the 5 but George Iloka breaks it up and tips the ball to Reggie Nelson for a Bengal INT. That play pretty much turned the tide. The Rams couldn’t get the running game or quick screen game going. The D gave up a quick TD to get the offense pressing even more, and Foles pressed his way into a back-breaking pick-six. Flushed out of the pocket near his goal line, he rolled left, then tried a goofy, cross-body, cross-field throw he thought Bradley Marquez would come back to, but Leon Hall came back to it instead to put the Bengals ahead 31-7. The Rams got across midfield to end the 3rd, but Foles led off the 4th with what I wish was his last throw as a Ram. Britt was wide open down the sideline had Foles’ throw been decent, but, hurried by the Bengal pass rush, Nick made a typical Foles deep throw, an awful, back-footed lob that future Hall-of-Famer Iloka fair caught for Cincy’s third INT. Everything about Foles – technique, decision-making – falls completely apart under pressure. Sean Mannion (6-7-31) got to close out this preseason-quality effort like he closed out games in August, running the 2:00 offense. Unfortunately, his one throw that stood out was the incompletion, an out route that didn’t make it to the sideline on the bounce. Foles wasn’t helped at all by his overmatched row of turnstiles posing as an offensive line, nor by his drumsticks-for-hands receivers. You’ll never see Foles yelling at his teammates or throwing them under the bus in the press, but maybe he needs to. He’s bad and they’re making him look awful.

    * RB: Tavon Austin (4-63 rush, 6-33 recv) was the only spark the Ram offense had, and that was mainly on one play. In the 2nd, Todd Gurley took a snap in Wildcat formation and handed off to Austin, who got a solid edge block from Cook (!), zipped around an overpursuing DE and launched into hyperspeed. Britt got him 25 yards’ worth of interference to top off a 60-yard run. That set Austin up for a 5-yard jet sweep TD two plays later behind more solid blocking from Cook (!!). That’ll be the last time “solid blocking” is discussed here, though. It’s remarkable that Gurley (9-19) even gained as much as 19 yards, because he was met in the backfield almost every carry. No one blocked Carlos Dunlap on either of Gurley’s first two runs. The second was a 3-yard loss on 3rd-and-1 because no one blocked Iloka, either. His next carry, two Bengals pinned him behind the LOS but he surged past them and turned a 3-yard loss into a 4-yard gain. No matter, Geno Atkins engulfed him the next play for a 3-yard loss (and an airplane spin). Had Gurley not broken the tackles he did, he would have totaled about 5 yards. He had nowhere to go inside or outside. Fox’s announcers commented that even Earl Campbell wouldn’t have gotten far this week behind the Rams’ blocking. For all he’s been for the Rams this season, young Gurley isn’t that.

    * Receivers: None of the Rams’ big receivers play big; Nick Foles, among others, could use one who does. Before halftime, a really good TE with the inside track to a goal line throw would have gone up and got it, won the jump ball. Jared Cook (4-58), though, gets beaten from behind by Iloka, who created an INT. The Ram offense discovered the quick slant this week, which led to a wildly-productive game for Kenny Britt (6-63). Dre Kirkpatrick got credit for a pass breakup, but the incomplete pass that ended a drive in the 2nd that the Rams started across midfield was off both Britt’s hands. A really good WR comes down with that ball. Or catches the 4th-and-6 pass in the 4th that was off both Britt’s outstretched hands. Then there’s Brian Quick (2-8), who must believe every ball thrown TO him is actually being thrown AT him. He doesn’t catch balls as much as he tries to get them to stop attacking him. We saw it yet again in the 3rd, when he let a 3rd-and-9 back shoulder throw into his body and muffed it at the sideline. And do the Rams throw so many 3rd-down passes short of the sticks expecting a big WR to break a tackle? Does it ever happen? Britt and Cook blocked well on the Rams’ TD drive. Britt had a couple of catches that set up, well, the INT meant for Cook. Britt was wide open down the sideline on Foles’ last INT but the QB missed badly. But there’s still several drives a game you can count on the Rams’ big receivers to kill because they don’t play big, at least not consistently. Lance Kendricks’ blocking lately has been the epitome of someone not playing big. Unless he’s getting a good run at somebody, he’s getting nothing done as a lead blocker, and he looked very tentative in that role this week. Also, didn’t I hear the Rams signed Wes Welker (2-12) a while back? Where did he go? With the running game and screen game shut down, these guys needed to step up. At most, they did a little. There’s no one here who can, or maybe wants to, take over a game when time calls for it. All I see are guys happy to be well-compensated bit players on a (if they’re lucky) 5-11 team.

    * Offensive line: Like the Wal-Mart greeter who gets to open the store on Black Friday, the Rams were immediately overrun up front and stayed that way. They blocked so poorly early on, it wasn’t apparent they were actually trying to obstruct the Bengals. No one blocked Dunlap on the first two runs, nor Iloka on the second. I’d put that on makeshift RT Garrett Reynolds, who I don’t think ever knew what he was supposed to be doing that opening series. I’m certain Iloka was supposed to be his block. And Dunlap was the guy in front of him, and usually going around him, all day. The Rams did not show the strength to win battles inside and did not show the speed or athleticism to block the Bengals on the move outside. They tried to move block for Gurley in the 1st and nearly got him buried after Kendricks whiffed horribly and Demetrious Rhaney let a LB run right by. Gurley made chicken salad out of um, those substandard ingredients, but Geno Atkins gave him the bird the next play, humiliating Tim Barnes and spinning Gurley down for a big loss. The Rams got the ball back at midfield only to have Atkins bury Tre Mason. He beat Rhaney AND Greg Robinson, who actually blocked him into the hole. Reynolds got beaten repeatedly as Foles tried to drive the Rams at the end of the half. Foles actually survived the first half without getting sacked (thanks to a defensive hold), but it didn’t last long. Atkins split Barnes and Cody Wichmann to drill him in the 3rd. Austin lost 5 to start the next drive because Cory Harkey ended up having to block Dunlap AND Iloka, and he whiffed on Dunlap. A quick screen to Austin went nowhere the next play because Robinson couldn’t lead out in time. Dunlap beat Reynolds for the millionth time to flush Foles into throwing his pick-six. Dunlap and Atkins weren’t the only Bengals at the party. Wallace Freaking Gilberry blew up a swing pass for Gurley in the 3rd by getting in Foles’ face. Robinson got beat in the 4th by Chris Carter, who does not do nothing but catch TDs, to rush Foles’ third INT. Carter and Frankenberry were a handful for the future Auburn draft bust the whole 2nd half. In the 4th, his whiff on Carter nearly got Gurley buried, then on 3rd-and-1, he took back a first down pass to Austin with his millionth holding penalty of the season, forced to tackle Dingleberry after getting beaten by the Bengal backup. On Foles’ final flailings late in the 4th, Wichmann got beaten badly by Dunlap rushing from DT to blow up a screen, then Robinson lost yet again to the immortal Huckleberry to force another bad throw. Where to start? Reynolds was awful, but at least he was playing out of position against a likely Pro Bowl DE. We knew the inexperienced Wichmann, the lightweight Barnes and the inexperienced AND lightweight Rhaney were going to have major trouble containing the Bengals’ dominant DTs, and they didn’t surprise us. And Robinson has gone full Jason Smith. Who in this league can he block if he’s going to get run over by backups every week? If not for Jared Cook’s blocking during the Rams’ only TD drive, I’m not sure the Rams landed a good block all game. They could not, and did not, start an NFL-quality line this week. The results made that obvious.

    * Defensive line/LB: With Andy Dalton (20-27-233, 3 TD) getting the ball out quickly behind one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, and without Robert Quinn again this week, the Ram front had about as much impact as you’d expect: no sacks, 376 yards of total offense. Jeremy Hill (16-86) took off for 15 on Cincy’s first play, with the Rams getting no penetration at DT and James Laurinaitis getting taken out by the lead-blocking TE. Dalton beat a blitz with a shovel pass to Tyler Eifert for another 15, and the Bengals were on the way to their first TD. The D had Cincy 3-and-out to end the 1st. Eugene Sims tipped a pass, Michael Brockers blew up a run and Laurinaitis and Mark Barron shut down a screen to Gio Bernard. But special teams gave the Bengals the ball back and deflated the D. Dalton scrambled by Aaron Donald for 5. All the Rams but Sims (who got blocked) bit like amateurs on a 30-yard reverse that got Marvin Jones inside the 10. Rodney McLeod made a nice goal-line run stop, though, and Daren Bates a nice end zone pass breakup, to hold the Bengals to 3. Those looked like big plays when the offense drew to within 10-7. So what do the Rams do? (deflating balloon sound) They gave Dalton forever to dump off to Hill for 14. Hill made four Rams miss on a 3-yard run. Then he got 12 more up the gut as Laurinaitis got canceled out by the blocking TE again. Dalton mostly threw quickly, and the Rams didn’t get near him when he didn’t. Eifert made it 17-7 and it wouldn’t get any closer. Hill ground up clock in the 2nd half with Chris Long jumping inside too hard, or Donald or Laurinaitis overrunning the play, or Brockers getting knocked 10 feet downfield and pancaked. Fortunately, Will Hayes, with one of the few quality QB pressures of the day, got Dalton to throw a bad INT in the 3rd. Hayes was the only Ram lineman to get off the LOS that play. In the 3rd, the whole line overplayed a 52-yard screen to Bernard that set up another Bengal TD. Other teams’ DEs blow our screens up all the time; can we return the favor one of these days? Barron was one of the few bright spots, with 10 tackles and several clutch stops. The Rams didn’t give up much in the 4th, not that the Bengals were really trying. And you still had Donald whiffing, Hill running through a stupid overshift for a big gain, Hayes getting mauled by Andrew Whitworth, Laurinaitis and Akeem Ayers getting stumped in the hole. The Rams didn’t make plays and often didn’t get in place to make plays. The world’s most amateur scouting report mentioned last week that part of Cincy’s blocking strategy is to get defenders overplaying and wash them out of plays; the Rams never adjusted to it. Physical and strategic failure in the “war” in the trenches.

    * Secondary: The Ram defense was ultimately doomed by a mistake-filled game in the secondary. 3rd-3 the opening drive, they’re playing tight zone coverage but Janoris Jenkins still lets A.J. Green (6-61, 2 TD) inside for a drag route and down to the 10. The next play, Jenkins and Rodney McLeod brilliantly jump a short route to the feared Mohammed Sanu while leaving Green open by five yards behind them for a simple TD. Another classic screwup by those two. Tyler Eifert faked Marcus Roberson (starting for injured Trumaine Johnson) into sitting on a short route the next drive and burned him deep, but McLeod saved Roberson’s bacon by blasting the catch away. In the 2nd, Daren Bates, not falling for the lineman-eligible play, saved the Rams 4 points with an excellent leaping pass breakup in the end zone. The Rams appeared to have settled down a little. Not for long. Bates and T.J. McDonald gave Eifert a free run down the right seam for a 21-yard TD. Gee, think you might want to cover a guy down there who has 11 TDs this year? Make it 12. After halftime, Jenkins got a gift INT from Andy Dalton and the Rams appeared to settle down again. Nope, not for long. Joyner and Mark Barron got blocked as Giovani Bernard took off with a simple screen pass for 52, then Green got another free run in the red zone for an 18-yard TD. James Laurinaitis didn’t get enough of a drop, McLeod didn’t close on him, ball game. The Rams have been FAR better than this in the red zone this season, but this week, they looked as confused in coverage as they have since the beginning of last season. This team’s latest very disappointing development.

    * Special teams: Special teams stood out mostly for penalties, committing FIVE of the team’s seven. Back-to-back false starts on a punt that Johnny Hekker plonked into the end zone anyway. (Hekker clubbed his first punt a whole 37 yards to tee up Cincy’s opening TD drive.) Chase Reynolds ran into the punter to turn a 3-and-out into an 85-yard, nearly 7:00 FG drive. Holding by Bates on a kickoff to bury the Rams deep in their end for Hall’s pick-six. The only bright spot, possibly on this whole team, was Zach Hocker blasting a couple of kickoffs out the back of the end zone. WHO? He’s the emergency kicker the Rams had to pick up because Greg Zuerlein (hip) was out. With this week’s sloppy play, I have to reluctantly add STs coach John Fassel to this year’s list of Rams disappointments. I really thought special teams could put the Rams over the top this year. But like so much of this team, they’ve regressed instead.

    * Strategery: Expecting Frank Cignetti to get a lot done in Cincinnati with this offensive line, these receivers, and a QB the team doesn’t want starting was not realistic. Breaking out the Wildcat formation a couple of times was creative and quite productive. He didn’t forget Austin this week and used him instead of just decoying with him. And after 10 weeks, the Ram offense finally discovered the slant route. But the Rams have scored four TDs in four weeks. Cignetti’s game plan was riddled with design flaws. I thought they needed more quick-developing plays like the quick slants. What was a slow fake end-around that sets up a slow screen pass to slow Britt supposed to be good for? Yeah, a loss. You know who has made a career out of getting open at the LOS within about a second? Wes Welker. Where was he? What was the only time Foles looked remotely comfortable all day? Running the 2:00 offense before halftime. So why not run no-huddle in the 2nd half? I’m not sure if a couple of plays were poor execution or poor design. Cook got a penalty attempting to run a route from the backfield before the snap one play. That’s great play design, IF you’re the Toronto Argonauts. Late in the game, Cincy’s been jumping quick screens all game, so they’ve got Bradley Marquez and Austin flanked right and running… the same route? Austin gets the ball but gets nowhere with Marquez’ route pulling in an extra defender. Huh? The Rams didn’t have the personnel on offense to get much of anywhere against Cincinnati. They didn’t have the game plan, either.

    Gregg Williams’ defense didn’t seem very well prepared. I think he was trying to mix up coverages enough to confuse Dalton but ended up confusing his own guys instead. The number of zone coverage breakdowns was appalling, and communication back there was poor to the point that Williams should have just simplified everything and gone to man while it was still a game. Bengals OC Hue Jackson (once interviewed here for that role; Fisher hired Brian Schottenheimer) fooled Williams repeatedly, whether with screen passes away from blitz pressure or the Marvin Jones reverse that gave the entire defense whiplash. The Rams were off-balance and overpursued enough to make you think they weren’t coached up enough on Cincinnati’s style of play. Nothing happy to find in any of this happening at this point of the season.

    I don’t know if Jeff Fisher is trying to win now, in the future, or ever. I don’t know why Gurley’s in the game in the 4th quarter down 31-7, getting a minor injury, and getting rolled right back out there. I don’t know why Welker’s back returning a punt at the end of the game. Not like that’s a high-velocity-impact-rich environment to send a guy with a concussion history into or anything. And I absolutely don’t know why Fisher was calling timeouts in the final minute of this dog. Bengals fans, Rams fans join you in booing that oddball move. All the times Fisher has failed to call timeouts in his time here and he’s using them then?

    Does Kroenke think this brand of football is going to sell for long in any stadium in any city?

    * Upon further review: Didn’t look like a very challenging game for Craig Wrolstead and crew. Fisher had a beef before the Bengal FG that he wasn’t getting proper opportunity to match up on defense. On the 52-yard screen to Bernard in the 3rd, T.J. McDonald took a blatant block in the back that would have called it all back and possibly stopped a TD drive. Not seeing much else, I’ll try to appreciate that an officiating crew having a quiet game is usually also having a good game. Grade: B-minus

    * Cheers: If you ask Fox, the highlight of this week’s broadcast was Tony Siragusa’s porkpie hat, which I’m pretty sure he bought thinking it was made out of pork and/or had pie in it. Such keen analysis from Charles Davis and Siragusa that the Rams needed to run outside more after Gurley got stuffed up the middle a couple of times, when that was what the Rams tried first. And it didn’t work the rest of the game, either, except for one long run. Analyze that. Thom Brennaman read off Fisher’s coaching record at the end of the game like a rap sheet: 6 winning seasons in 21 as a head coach, no playoff win since 2003. Brennaman’s leading the Fire Fisher Brigade in the media, for whatever it ever amounts to.

    * Who’s next?: The Rams return for what could be their final stand in St. Louis, three straight home games that will take this season down the homestretch. It’ll start with the team that might well leave vs. the team that did leave. The Rams broke a three-game losing streak in the series when they surprised Arizona in the desert in October, 24-22. That left them 7-8 there since moving to St. Louis, while they’re only 5-9 here.

    The Rams won the first meeting this year behind clutch red zone defense, which will be difficult to repeat without Quinn, and was a very unusual performance against Carson Palmer this season anyway. He leads the league (yes, even Brady) in TD passes (27) and QB rating (108.9) and is 3rd in passing yards. Arizona is also tied for 5th for fewest sacks allowed. I mentioned in the first Arizona preview that Palmer’s improved footwork has really helped his line and his receivers, but now, he’s also getting some of the best line play he’s gotten as a Cardinal. LT Jared Veldheer was outstanding last Sunday night against the Bengals and RT Bobby Massie kept the feared Carlos Dunlap off the stat sheet. Veldheer and LG Mike Iupati really got the running game going on the left side. Chris Johnson is by far Arizona’s leading rusher and is a lot more patient than I remember, not trying to bounce everything outside. All the Arizona backs are good receivers, and with Larry Fitzgerald, are all huge options on screens. With the trouble that play has given the Rams lately, they HAVE to be on point against it for Arizona. And with Fitzgerald one of the league’s very best blocking WRs, Jenkins HAS to be able to get off blocks and prevent short passes from turning into big plays, which didn’t happen vs. Chicago and Baltimore. Gregg Williams is the one Rams DC in a decade to recognize Fitzgerald is the key to stopping the Cardinal offense and has been willing to devote extra attention to him. To get away with that, he’ll have to pressure Palmer enough to keep him from hitting one of his million deep threats, including John Brown, Jaron Brown, and now J.J. Nelson. (Michael Floyd, too, if his hamstring isn’t a bother.) Blitzing will get into Palmer’s head and get him making dumb throws. Williams got to him last time with safety blitzes. He’ll need Aaron Donald whipping center Lyle Sendlein up front, maybe from that 3-man front that’s disappeared from the Ram defense, to set the table for the DEs. Williams has solved the Cardinal offense before; the Rams will need some more successful equations from their defensive mad scientist.

    Algebra isn’t the Rams’ strength on offense; it’s been a long time since they solved the Cardinal defense for C^2 or P^2. Calais Campbell had a season-high 10 tackles against them in October and has been blowing up Ram blocking schemes his entire career. So I really liked what Cincinnati did with him; they double-teamed a DT next to him and ran thattaway. Depending on his ankle injury, avoidance may also be the best policy with Patrick Peterson. He smothered A.J. Green last Sunday and asphyxiated Kenny Britt (0-0) in October. Whoever’s QBing the Rams, assuming he can get rid of the ball, will be much better off picking on Jerraud Powers. After getting burned by Austin (6-96, 2 TD) and Gurley (146 yards) in the first meeting, if anyone’s going to be ready for the Rams’ two-man show on offense, it’ll be Arizona. Their defensive calling card remains heavy blitzing. No one in their front has a lot of sacks, but they have a lot of players who can get to the QB, and that blitz made Cincy’s vaunted o-line look pretty average. The soft, gooey center of the Ram o-line (and the backs) will have to deal with a lot of blitzes right up the gut by Deon Bucannon from safety and by battering ram/LB Kevin Minter. Even if they can pick that up, Jason Sm, er, Greg Robinson will be more than challenged at LT. Rookie OLB Markus Golden was a handful for Andrew Whitworth, so he’ll be beating Robinson all game, and Dwight Freaking Freeney, who I did not know was still in the league, or a Cardinal, has 3 sacks in the last 4 games and is guaranteed to burn Robinson at least once as a spot rusher with his legendary spin move. OC Cignetti’s task again this week is to try to keep his QB from getting shelled. He’ll have to rely on draws and screens and the slant passes he’s finally discovered after 10-11 weeks. Gurley’s biggest successes in Arizona were behind move blockers, if Cignetti remembers what those are. (Preferably Harkey; Kendricks is useless.) And whether or not they’re running well, the Rams have to keep play-action in the game plan. This is always effective against Arizona because they are overaggressive. The Rams aren’t going to dictate anything on offense against Arizona, or probably anybody else this year. They’re going to have to learn to counterattack.

    Jeff Fisher built a team designed to win games in the NFC West, where the Rams are 3-0, but forgot about the rest of the league, where they’re a dismal 1-7. And now that they’re back in the division for a week, they get a red-hot Cardinal team that’s won 5 in a row and has been waiting two months for payback. What might be the last shot St. Louis gets at Bill Bidwill doesn’t look like it’s going to end well.

    — Mike
    Game stats from espn.com

    #34820
    Avatar photonittany ram
    Moderator

    Concussions and their long term effects on the brain are beginning to be studied in public school students. Based on the results thus far some doctors are calling for the ban of tackle football in highschools.

    But doesn’t it follow that college football should be banned for the same reasons (not that there’s a chance of that happening given the money involved)? Then what happens to the NFL if its farm system is abolished? Should it matter?

    http://www.bioethics.net/2015/10/medical-ethics-and-school-football/

    MEDICAL ETHICS AND SCHOOL FOOTBALL
    by Steven H. Miles, MD and Shailendra Prasad, MD, MPH

    This is a special pre-print posting of an editorial scheduled for the January 2016 issue of the American Journal of Bioethics.

    Health professionals should call for ending public school tackle football programs. We disagree with the perspective and the argument of a recent report by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) that supports the current organization of reforms of youth tackle football.

    About 1.1 million students play on junior and high school football teams. Another three million play in non-school programs. Youth football is slowly dying. The number of players on junior and high school football teams has fallen 2.4% over the last 5 years. Pop Warner Football, the largest non-school based program has seen its number of student athletes fall 9.5% (23,612 athletes) from 2010 to 2012. Data is not available for other youth leagues.

    We agree with the AAP that the rare deaths (seven through October 2015) or catastrophic neck injuries do not, of themselves, tip the balance against school football. Tragedies occur in other sports and activities that young people pursue. Youth football also brings high risks of sprains, strains, ligamentous tears and fractures but these risks are roughly comparable to other sports.

    Public schools should end their football programs because of the high prevalence of concussions. Five to twenty percent of students experience at least one concussion in a season of play. Nine to twelve year old players experience an average of 240 head impacts per season; high school players average 650 head impacts per season. An initial football concussion increases the risk of a subsequent concussion three or four fold not simply for the balance of that season but for the following season as well. Catastrophic brain injuries, though rare, are far more common in high school and college players who have experienced a previous non-catastrophic concussion. The brains of children are more susceptible to long-term damage from concussion than adults. Although the frequency of concussion in football is about the same as in hockey, fifty times as many students play football than hockey; football causes far more brain injuries. The brain is an irreplaceable organ, the health of which is foundational for the ability to learn, socialize and for fully realizing life’s physical and vocational opportunities.

    Research about the consequences of school football for cognitive function is foreboding and evolving in a discouraging way. Youth football head trauma (aside from catastrophic brain, head and neck injuries) has not yet been proven to progress to the dementia, Parkinson’s disease, behavioral disorders, and mood disorders seen in professional players. Even so, school football concussions are often followed by weeks of impaired school academic performance, memory disturbances, headaches and absenteeism. High school cheerleaders have impaired cognition for at least days after a single concussion even when claiming to be asymptomatic. Cognitive dysfunction or neuron injury occurs after repetitive mild to moderate athletic concussions; catastrophic injuries or instances of prolonged loss of consciousness are not required to cause such harm. Even when measured cognition returns to baseline, symptoms of concussion often persist. A season of collegiate play leads to persistent cognitive dysfunction that is roughly proportional to the magnitude of head impact. One study shows that greater later-life cognitive impairment in NFL players is correlated with exposure to competitive football before twelve years of age. Evidence about the effect of youth football is evolving but is sufficient to show that school football is likely to adversely affecting school performance in the short term and may, if the trauma is not stopped, may proceed to permanent cognitive dysfunction over the long term.

    A downward trend for deaths and for head and neck injuries is attributed to 1976 bans on head butting and spear and facemask tackles. However, these illegal tactics persisted despite bans. Students however do not reliably accept information about concussion and often fail to report concussive symptoms. Coaches inconsistently evaluate for signs of concussion and often fail to remove injured players from games.

    Inevitably, lawsuits are being filed against youth football in the wake of the successful suit against the National Football League. In 2015, an Iowa court awarded a player a million dollars for negligence in diagnosing and acting on a concussion four years after the state had implemented legal reforms to reduce football injuries from head trauma. Pop Warner Football is being sued for the suicide a young player. A young athlete who suffered a severe concussion sued the Illinois High School Association (IHSA), asked a court to order medical testing of former high school players going back to 2002. The judge dismissed the suit paradoxically noting, “IHSA is simply a governmental entity charged with safeguarding student athletes . . . (Imposing) broader liability on this defendant would certainly change the sport of football and potentially harm it or cause it to be abandoned.” In other words, the potential harm to the athletic program itself counterbalanced the failure to protect against an actual severe concussion. At least three high schools in the country discontinued football programs this year due to concerns for player safety.

    School football is caught between worsening scientific findings, evidence showing that new rules of play or coaching or equipment have a modest effect on concussions, parents who are not allowing their children to play, and lawsuits aimed at leagues and school personnel. Anecdotally, many prominent professional players, including Mike Ditka and Joe Namath, publically say that they would not let young relatives play football.

    Un-informed Consent

    Proponents of school tackle football, including the AAP, propose informed consent as the best way to ensure parents and children understand and accept the risks of school football. However, existing consent forms are deeply flawed. They do not quantify risk or they minimize it with misleadingly contextualization (e.g., “There is a degree of risk in all daily activities.”) The consent forms do not rebut the ungrounded hope of 26% of parents, especially those with economic and educational disadvantages, that their child will turn school participation in to a professional athletic career. Even when parents have been educated by the team and signed consent, many student players do not understand the symptoms or potential consequences of concussion.

    An honest consent form for football might include language like this:

    Concussion: “The risk of having at least one concussion in any season of play and practice is anywhere from one in five players to one in twenty players. It is not known how many of these students suffer more than one concussion. After one concussion, that the risk of additional concussion(s) in that season or in a following season is increased three or four fold. A concussion increases the risk of a later catastrophic brain or neck injury that may result in paralysis or death. Studies show that football concussions are highly likely to cause headaches and difficulty concentrating or performing schoolwork for a week, several weeks or even longer.

    School football as a pathway to a professional football career: About one of every sixteen high school football players will play on a college team. About one in 1,200 high school football players ever play on a professional team. The average professional career is 3.3 years. Professional football players have much higher rates of depression, thinking problems, and physical disabilities than the general public.

    Insurance: The team (has /does not have) a team physician/nurse to monitor for fitness to play. Such persons will try to detect athletes with concussions but their success at preventing concussions or other injuries is very limited. General medical insurance is the student’s responsibility. In the event of a catastrophic injury, the school does not provide or pay for long-term rehabilitation or vocational retraining, long term care or adaptive aids like crutches or wheelchairs. The school does not provide disability insurance for lost income.

    The Dual Loyalty Problem of School Football

    Medical ethics often addresses issues of dual loyalties. In such issues, the physician’s primary duty to a patient’s choice and well-being is potentially compromised by a contending personal interest or institutional pressure. Dual loyalty conflicts are seen in prison health care, military medicine, occupational medicine, research with human subjects and so on. Dual loyalties can affect a team physician or coach’s assessment and counseling of an aspiring football player. Risks may be minimized as students sign up to play. The potential for training, equipment, rules and refereeing to reduce concussions may be overstated. Injured players may be prematurely permitted or encouraged to ‘choose’ to return to play. Such issues affect the authenticity of choices of students who are also influenced by appeals to ‘school spirit,’ the mirage of a pro career, or peer pressure especially in smaller communities that have few candidates to fill a team roster.

    Dual loyalty conflicts also work at an institutional level. School football is big business and a large part of popular culture. It is fiercely protected as is evident in the words of a judge who dismisses an injured player’s lawsuit for fear it might “harm” the sport.

    The AAP’s child-centered mission is “to attain optimal physical, mental, and social health and well-being for all infants, children, adolescents and young adults.” This mission unambiguously states that dual-loyalty conflicts must be resolved by keeping youths’ health paramount.

    However, the AAP’s report on youth tackle football balances health with the interests of the youth football industry. Its lead authors are experts on the clinical science of sports injuries but both coach sports where concussions are frequent. The report inexplicably omits discussing the effects of concussion on academic performance (the reason for going to school). It argues for respecting the ‘choice’ to play without noting how that schools, parents, coaches or the unrealistic aspirations for a pro career may pressure ‘choice’. It fails to offer an evidence-based template for informed consent, essentially preserving the current model of consent as a liability waiver. The report is optimistically speculative as when it suggests that neck strengthening might decrease the catastrophic neck injuries or cautions that that raising the age at which tackling is allowed might increase injuries. Throughout, the report upholds the tradition of youth tackle football against “fundamental change” even though scientific evidence is clearly trending in the opposite direction.

    As long as football is played, primary prevention of injuries with the best equipment, coaching, rules of play and procedures for assessing and managing players will be needed.

    However, we believe that this is a time for “primordial prevention” that remediates “environmental, economic, social and behavioral conditions, cultural patterns of living known to increase the risk of disease.” For health care professionals, primordial prevention might commend ending support for football in public schools. By this option, health professionals would oppose public support for bonds to build stadiums or athletic facilities for junior or senior high school football. They would oppose public school programs granting academic credit for playing football or leave of absences for practice or games. Such a proposal would not ban youth football. Private play and private leagues, like the Pop Warner program, would continue. Young people choosing such programs would play purely for the game and not be lured by ‘school spirit.’ Health professionals would continue to promote life long exercise programs and school physical education programs. However, under this proposal, the medical community could help students, schools and society leave a sport on which the sun is setting.

    • This topic was modified 9 years, 6 months ago by Avatar photonittany ram.
    #34628
    mfranke
    Participant

    RamView, November 22, 2015
    Game #10: Ravens 16, Rams 13

    Stick a fork in the Rams, who found every way to lose they possibly could and lost the worst-played football game of the season against the worst team they’ll see this season until they get home and look in the mirror. This season does not look salvageable at this point, and this coaching regime shouldn’t be.

    Position by position:
    * QB: Typical fan I am, I was calling for Nick Foles to be removed at halftime last week, and this week, I wanted to pull Case Keenum (12-26-136, 75.2 PR) in the 3rd quarter. Keenum got off to a decent start, hitting Kenny Britt for 16, the kind of downfield timing pass that has fled from Foles’ repertoire. Keenum made the most of his mobility, also an edge he has over Foles, late in the 1st. He rolled right, pump-faked to prevent a sack, pulled it down and fired deep while scrambling across the line of scrimmage (with his back foot just legal) for a long DPI drawn by Jared Cook. That set up a TD, but like any ball Keenum was called upon to throw more than 25 yards downfield, was well underthrown. After a 9-yard hitch to Britt early in the 2nd, Keenum didn’t complete a pass that counted the rest of the half. He threw well short of a well-covered (as always) Tavon Austin and was lucky to avoid an INT. He followed that with a poor sideline throw for Britt on 3rd down that never had a chance. Coming out of halftime, Keenum threw a bomb that came up so short, the refs picked up a flag for DPI because it was uncatchable. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that. Next pass, he misses Austin on an out route with a throw so bad it looked like the ball was tipped. It wasn’t. After an 0-for-7 stretch that made Steve Walsh look like John Elway, it sure looked like Foles Time to me. Or how about the following possession, when Keenum tripped coming out of center, tried a diving handoff to Todd Gurley, which naturally didn’t work and gave Baltimore the ball? Patience with Keenum seemed rewarded when he hit Lance Kendricks for a 30-yard TD to put the Rams up a seemingly insurmountable 13-3. But no lead is safe when Jeff Fisher’s Rams are on a mission to lose. They fumbled the ball away twice and let Baltimore tie the game. Keenum made a clutch play to get out of trouble and put the Rams in FG position late. He rolled left and had nothing, but found Benny Cunningham on the back side for a 20-yard play. So OF COURSE the Rams missed the FG. Baltimore didn’t want to win the game, either, and gave the Rams another late chance to break the tie. Instead it was a chance to break Keenum. Timmy Jernigan drilled his head into the ground on a free play. Keenum clutched his helmet, came up looking like a puppet with its strings cut, but STAYED IN THE GAME long enough to overthrow a pass and give up the game-losing fumble on a sack. Case Keenum was a total joke for about half the game, but was also a gamer who just about made enough plays to win it. Still, when he’s poor at throwing sideline passes, can’t throw much more than 20 yards downfield, doesn’t know how many fingers I’m holding up, and Jeff Fisher STILL considers him the best option at QB, it says a lot about the state of the St. Louis Rams in 2015.

    * RB: The Sports Illustrated cover jinx got Todd Gurley (25-66), as the ground game never really got off the ground. He did score the Rams’ first TD on 3 runs inside the 10 behind Cory Harkey’s lead-blocking and Garrett Reynolds’ strong inside work. Todd had a very entertaining 5-yard run in the 2nd. He swept right and shoved down a useless Lance Kendricks and classically leg-pumped his way through several tacklers. That set up a 3rd-and-1, though, where everyone knew Gurley was getting the ball and Baltimore dropped him for a loss. That’s the problem right now, everyone knows Gurley’s getting the ball because the Rams have little else. Gurley found less and less running room, and soon, not even clean handoffs. Keenum tripped and blew one in the 3rd for one turnover. Brandon Williams met Gurley well behind the line early in the 4th and punched out another. Gurley didn’t see much/enough of the ball in the 2nd half until Baltimore tied the game at 13. With the Ravens thinking pass, Gurley knocked out 16 yards on 3 carries to kick off a drive that got the Rams in FG position. Gurley never had a breakaway run; his longest carry was 7 yards, and the Rams did not seem likely to win under those conditions. They seemed even less likely while getting Gurley 6 carries over most of the second half of a game they should have been putting away.

    * Receivers: The Rams got a couple of big plays at tight end. Jared Cook (4-31) beat Jimmy Smith deep and drew a 49-yard interference penalty that set up the Rams’ first TD. Lance Kendricks (2-43) got wide open on the backside of a fake rollout play and put the Rams up 13-3 with a 30-yard TD catch. No such impact yet again at WR. Kenny Britt (2-24) was pretty much done after catching the first pass of the game. He and Keenum weren’t in the same book, let alone on the same page, on a couple of blitz adjustments. Tavon Austin’s (1-5) 16-yard end-around set up Kendricks’ TD, but he was mostly a decoy. He wasn’t open for a step, again, on the one deep ball tried his way and he had a drop to start the Rams’ final drive. Wes Welker (2-13) made a couple of nice grabs but was barely a factor in the offense. Keenum’s mobility bought the receivers extra time, but the only time it seemed to matter was on Cook’s long DPI. I doubt any QB short of Russell Wilson has enough mobility to give any of these guys the time they need to get open.

    * Offensive line: Last week’s injuries turned the o-line depth chart into an impossible shell game. The plan was to move Garrett Reynolds to LG and give Andrew Donnal and Cody Wichmann their first career starts at RT and RG, respectively. This held up for a quarter thanks to excellent run-blocking by Reynolds and Cory Harkey. From the 10 after Cook’s long DPI, Gurley followed Harkey and Reynolds for 4, then Harkey for 5 more, with Reynolds and Greg Robinson really bending the edge back. Gurley scored behind a strong combo block by Donnal and pulling Reynolds. But Donnal, whom the Rams drafted despite a myriad of injuries in college, lasted barely a quarter before bowing out with a season-ending knee injury. That’s a hidden play of the game. It forced Reynolds to kick out to RT, Wichmann to LG and put Demetrious Rhaney in at RG, and the Rams rarely competed well on the line afterward. Reynolds had been the only thing holding up Tim Barnes’ and Wichmann’s soft play in the middle. He started getting beaten both pass- and run-blocking as soon as he got out to RT. Robinson’s bitterly disappointing play continued with YET ANOTHER holding penalty to start off the 2nd. Gurley couldn’t convert 3rd-and-1 the next drive after Robinson and Wichmann got blown up. The middle line could not handle Brandon Williams. Gurley got stuffed again the following drive after Robinson and Barnes got pushed well back. Then Courtney Upshaw rolled past Robinson off the snap on 3rd down to force Keenum to scramble wildly. Barnes, who created a false start in the 1st half by forgetting the snap count, (note: he is the CENTER) remained a liability in the 2nd, getting blown off the ball and failing to get to his spot in time on pull blocks. After success with Harkey lead-blocking, the Rams got away from that, but Lance Kendricks continues only to be useful as a move blocker. They rely too often on him to make in-line blocks, like when he didn’t block Elvis Dumervil at all as Gurley got stuffed early in the 2nd. Rhaney was also a weak link. Williams smoked him when he forced the critical Gurley fumble in the 4th. Robinson helped get Gurley going to start a drive late in the 4th, but it bogged down into a FG try (that missed) after Rhaney was beaten inside and Barnes pushed back to get Gurley stopped again. Barnes lost a hand-fight with Timmy Jernigan badly on the play where Keenum was concussed, while Robinson idiotically shoved Upshaw RIGHT TO Keenum to force the game-losing fumble. Way to get your QB blindsided, Robinson. The Rams ultimately proved superior at finding ways to lose as a decade-long broken record of o-line injuries and failed high draft picks keeps scratching on.

    * Defensive line/LB: As usual, it was up to the Ram defense to carry the sputtering offense, and as has been the case lately, it was up to Aaron Donald to do a lot of the carrying. Justin Forsett (4-26) got off to a strong start. They started out running at Will Hayes, who was getting blocked 10 feet out of plays and not getting much help from Michael Brockers or James Laurinaitis. Forsett had 10- and 18-yard runs before Nick Fairley stopped the opening drive with a 3rd-down pressure on Joe Flacco. Donald brought Forsett’s day to an unfortunate end the next drive. He beat a pull block (ha, someone thought they could block Aaron Donald with a pull block) and slammed Forsett to the ground for a 5-yard loss and a season-ending broken arm. Laurinaitis stopped Jeremy Butler on a 3rd-down pass to force a FG attempt that missed, giving the Rams momentum. Hayes stuffed Buck Allen to start a 3-and-out to end the 1st. Laurinaitis had a run stop and pressured Flacco for a 3-and-out in the 2nd. After Tavon Austin muffed a punt, the D made a heck of a defensive stand to hold the Ravens to a FG. Donald shot past the center to stuff Allen for a loss, along with Mark Barron. Baltimore beat a blitz and got inside the 10, but Barron then made an excellent open-field play to blow up a swing pass to Kyle Juszczyk. Donald then split the LT and the LG to sack Flacco back at the 20 to send in the kicker. The Rams kept momentum into the 2nd half. Eugene Sims drew a hold to move Baltimore out of FG range, Laurinaitis and Brockers played a draw to Allen perfectly, and when the Ravens crazily went for it on 4th-11, Laurinaitis was all over Juszczyk to stop him well short on a dumpoff. More 3-and-outs followed. Fairley stuffed Allen, then Laurinaitis and Sims blew up and strung out a dumb 3rd-and-1 run that made the Ravens look like they were quitting. The Rams only got the one sack by Donald, but pressured Flacco effectively throughout mostly with 4-man rushes. Hayes and Sims, then Fairley on 3rd down, forced bad Flacco throws for another 3-and-out. The Ravens didn’t quit, though, and the Rams started slipping up in the 4th. Allen beat them for 14 on 3rd-and-2 on a simple dumpoff. Crockett Gillmore got open between Laurinaitis and Barron at the Ram 10 and carried them down to the 3 on a 16-yard gain. That led to a TD, but the front 7 prevented another one after a long gain by Gillmore later. Hayes stuffed Allen and Barron tackled Kamar Aiken at the 1 to help force a tying FG. The last fumble by woozy Keenum was a bridge too far, though. Allen ran for 8 as Brockers and Laurinaitis got blocked, and he ran over Brockers and Donald for 5 more to put the Ravens in winning FG range. They weren’t perfect, but even without Robert Quinn and with Chris Long just back from a knee injury, the Rams were more than good enough up front this week. Ultimately there’s only so much bad offense they can cover up for.

    * Secondary: The Ram secondary was barely tested downfield at all by Joe Flacco (27-44-299) and the Ravens’ dysfunctional passing game, but they still had their challenges. One was tackling Crockett Gillmore (5-101), who they made look like Mike Ditka crossed with Mark Bavaro. After T.J. McDonald got faked out by play action, Gillmore was wide open for a short pass in the 1st and ran through Janoris Jenkins for 20. The Rams had much more success against old friend Chris Givens (2-25), who tried to talk smack harder than he tried to run routes. Jenkins broke up a pass for Givens to seal a 3-and-out to start the 2nd. The Rams got a couple of INTs off Flacco that were probably easier than any catches they had to make in pregame warmups. Flacco airmailed a terrible pass right to Rodney McLeod in the 2nd. In the 3rd, Trumaine Johnson defended a deep pass to help get another 3-and-out. When the offense gave the ball right back, TruJo took it right back, grabbing a terrible Flacco floater and returning it across midfield to set up a TD. 13-3 seemed like an insurmountable lead, but at the goal line in the 4th, McDonald got caught in a pick and a freed Kamar Aiken (5-50) beat Marcus Roberson for a TD. The Rams started the next drive by leaving Aiken all alone down the seam for 17, then leaving Gillmore wide open in the flat for a painful 46 on the same kind of play Chicago burned them on the week before. After that, Jenkins and McLeod combined with a nice goal line play to stop a rollout pass and force a Raven FG. Flacco rang up a lot of yards on a lot of short passes. The DBs could have tackled better (especially Gillmore), and they got beaten on several blitzes. It’s still fair to say they had a decent amount of control over Baltimore’s dreadful passing game.

    * Special teams: Oh, the horror, the kickers had to kick OUTDOORS again this week. What’s the excuse this time? Typhoon Omar? Hurricane Edgar? Johnny Hekker was about as consistent as the St. Louis weather. After a 61-yard punt that was downed at the 1 nicely by Bradley Marquez and Cody Davis, he chunked a 38-yarder, hit a 30-yard goofball to “pin” the Ravens at their 19 and plonked a 40-yarder into the end zone. Then he hit a 63-yarder. Greg Zuerlein’s day was a mess. He had an extra point blocked that I think he shanked, but the official blame’s going to the blocking on the play. With 1:42 left, the best the Ram offense could do was to get him a 52-yard attempt to take the lead; he missed wide right. Tavon Austin’s day was a total bust. He lost five on one return trying to sweep left with it. He brilliantly signaled fair catch on another and still attempted to return it. And, his poorest play of a poor game: misjudging a punt right before halftime, kneeling and reaching out for it instead of letting it bounce, and muffing it back to the Ravens to set up a FG. Special teams cost the Rams 7 points in a game they lost by three. Never a dull day.

    * Strategery: The head coach and coordinators all stink at their jobs right now. Jeff Fisher’s approach to concussions suggests he had one himself this week. I’d like to know why anyone on the Ram sideline thought it was a good idea to keep Keenum in the game after he got knocked for a loop. (Or, for that matter, while he was spraying passes around in the 3rd.) And why put the concussion-prone Welker back with Austin on punts? Is that really a great idea, Welker blocking guys with a 50-yard head of steam?

    Both coordinators failed when they got away from what was already working. Like he usually does, Frank Cignetti got away from play-action too early. I didn’t see Baltimore ever stop Gurley following lead blocks from Harkey at fullback, but Cignetti got away from those, too. Gurley got stuffed twice on 3rd-and-1’s on very predictable runs right up the middle, and I don’t think either of those or either of the fumbles involving Gurley were plays that had him running behind a fullback. Also, way too many fakes to Austin without ever actually handing him the ball slowed down too many plays. The Rams need to be a lot quicker-hitting, especially behind the o-line they fielded this week. All those fakes set up exactly one handoff to Austin, which did go for 16, but wasn’t worth the number of fakes invested in it. Baltimore quit worrying about him after about the third fake. The TD call to Kendricks was a sweet one I think Josh McDaniels ran a few times here. Fake play-action rollout, come back to the TE on the backside. And it was clever to start the late FG attempt drive with handoffs to Gurley. Cignetti definitely caught them expecting pass and got that drive off to a good start. Despite those moments, this just wasn’t a cohesive gameplan. Don’t get away from plays that work and keep going back to plays that don’t. Seems like that should be Coaching 101.

    Gregg Williams also skipped that class. I liked his first-half plan for its simplicity. Baltimore was never much of a threat to get the ball downfield, so Williams blitzed very little. The d-line didn’t get to Flacco with sacks, but got pressure, and that was plenty to thwart their very limited passing game. I would have been happy to just stick an extra man in the box in the 2nd half to shut down the successful runs. Nope, Williams came out of halftime blitzing. Flacco burned an all-LB blitz for 25 with a quick slant on 3rd-7. The Rams went back to failing to stop simple dumpoffs out of the backfield, even though Baltimore couldn’t get anything accomplished downfield. Then Gillmore beat soft zone coverage, which I don’t think Williams had used much, to set up the Aiken TD. Gillmore’s catch to set up the tying TD was a repeat of the Chicago game. Williams got caught blitzing Ayers, who would have normally covered the receiver who’s wide open instead and turning a simple pass in the flat into a 46-yard gain.

    This is supposed to be a coaching staff that knows how to win. Instead, they find as many ways to lose as their players do. I really believe they’ve assembled the parts for a winning team here, but these guys are just never going to put it all together.

    * Upon further review: Unbelievably, in a season where the Rams have seen Jeff Triplette twice, Tony Corrente’s crew managed to call the worst game of the season. He deserves the dishonor strictly for the play that got Keenum knocked woozy. Dumervil jumps into the neutral zone, stops, but is unabated to the QB. IMO the play should have been blown dead right there. Even if I’m wrong, it’s Corrente’s damn job not to let the QB get killed on a free play, and with Jernigan on top of Keenum, the play should have been getting blown dead. If Corrente’s doing his job, either Keenum’s still intact after the play, or it’s 15 on Jernigan for a late hit. But, no whistle, no late hit, woozy QB fumbles two plays later, Baltimore’s almost immediately in FG position. Wait a minute, woozy QB? How in the hell did Keenum stay on the field after a hit that had him literally holding his head in pain? And when he’s a total rag doll when his lineman initially tries to help him up? What the hell is the league DOCTOR doing while this is going on, eating crab cakes? Earlier, there was Keenum’s “backward” pass, thrown from the 27 but spotted at the 29, and in what universe is that BACKWARD? Will Hill brought Keenum down excessively late when Baltimore blew up a screen late in the 3rd. Marquez’ 30-yard catch-and-run in the 2nd never should have been called back because none of the penalties should have been called. The personal fouls after the play likely would have been avoided had the whistle been properly blown when Marquez was down. At least then the dubious illegal block called on Britt, whose man was going down on his own to tackle Marquez, would have been a spot foul, I think. Corrente did too much else wrong for me to get this recap in before Thanksgiving. Grade: Big fat F-minus

    * Cheers: Today’s breaking news: not only did Tre Mason and Isaiah (Claude Wroten 2.0) Battle miss the team bus Saturday (and therefore the team flight), did you know Mason has been missing meetings and skipping treatments all season? How does Moose Johnston know this, when he does maybe two Rams games a year, and none of the regular Rams reporters do? Has anyone checked, maybe Moose talks to Kroenke, too! Moose failed to explain why Mason is still in a Ram uniform, but still, good job on the scoop.

    * Who’s next?: Here’s an omen: the Rams’ last two games against the Cincinnati Bengals have been losses behind backup QBs: Kellen Clemens in 2011, Brock Berlin in 2007. Lotsa luck to anybody expecting Case Keenum to reverse that trend, even though Cincy’s lost two straight after an 8-0 start.

    The Rams sure as hell aren’t going to beat the Bengals in a shootout like Arizona did; they’ll have to follow the script from Houston’s 10-6 victory last Monday night if they’re going to have any chance at all. Cincinnati’s offensive line has one of the best reputations of any line in the league. Pro Football Focus grades them the most efficient pass-blocking unit going all the way back to 2007. LT Andrew Whitworth is one of the league’s best blindside protectors and didn’t allow a sack all of 2014. Clint Boling and Kevin Zeitler both grade out as 6th-best in the league at their guard positions. Boling hadn’t allowed a sack in his first 360 snaps this season. Sports Illustrated had an in-depth piece on the Bengal line, and, skipping the details, they’re coached to pass-protect differently than any other team does, and it’s something the Ram line will have to adjust to. If they don’t, they’ll just get swept past Andy Dalton for 60 minutes. Dalton is having the best season of his career (and carrying my fantasy team). Cincy’s up at the top of the league in yards per play, yards per pass attempt, and most importantly, points per game. His decision-making and deep accuracy have both come a long way. The Texans solved him by first taking away the deep ball. Johnathan Joseph made A.J. Green pretty invisible. Green has had some games like that this year. They confused Dalton by mixing up their coverages and made him settle for tons of quick screens and checkdowns. Up front, they stunted the daylights out of the Bengals. Cincy acted like they’d never seen one. They even beat the unassailable Whitworth for a sack by my scoring. Houston also took advantage any time Tyler Eifert had to block somebody in pass pro. Eifert is approaching Gronk status as a red zone TE but did not block to his previous reputation against the Texans. They got into the Bengals’ heads with physical play and made Dalton impatient and got him forcing passes downfield into traffic. That’s a blueprint the Rams have the people to execute. They have to be aware of Giovani Bernard out of the backfield. They have to be aware that Dalton is a good enough runner to make read-option credible. They have to be alert to OC Hue Jackson’s array of bizarre line shifts. Jenkins has to prove Pro Bowl-worthy against Green. And they could really use a healthy Robert Quinn to fill the Whitney Mercilus role – he had a field day whipping up on Eifert. The 4-6 Rams can do to the Bengals what the 4-5 Texans did. I don’t expect it, but they can.

    The Rams have to get the Bengals into a slugfest because I don’t see them doing much against Cincy’s defense. Their best hope is that injuries to leading sacker Carlos Dunlap (8.5), LB Vontaze Burfict and the surprisingly ageless Pacman Jones make them a little more ordinary. They’re not afraid to blitz, though I doubt they’ll need to much against the tattered Ram o-line. The Rams could be in a ton of trouble if they have to stop 6’6”, long-armed monster Dunlap with Garrett Reynolds. That has to be a 1-on-1 matchup because the Rams have no one in the middle who can compete with Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald’s primary competition for best DT in the league. Atkins is healthy again and already has 7 sacks. He and Domata Peko make up the best interior pass rush in the league, and I just don’t know how the Rams are going to stop them with Barnes, Wichmann and Rhaney. Throw quickly, Keenum. Burfict is a terrific hitter behind that line, and even if he is limited, Vincent Rey has been a tackling machine in his place. The Bengals hoard good cover corners. Dre Kirkpatrick was impressively sticky against DeAndre Hopkins. Pacman still gobbles up ground well at 32. Last year’s 1st-round pick Darqueze Dennard has played well yet has trouble getting on the field. Classic ballhawk Reggie Nelson already has 5 INTs. Front to back, both sides of the ball, the Bengals are a stacked team and a very, very legitimate Super Bowl contender.

    This Rams season has been strange enough to perversely believe they’ll beat the Bengals. They beat Seattle and Arizona when no one expected it, didn’t they? But Jeff Fisher is in a spot now where he has to depend on a big upset to turn his season around. He can pull it off. I doubt he will. But he has to.

    — Mike
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