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  • #118337
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    Biden is not Hillary. Thats his best political-attribute.

    Older voters like him. (His dementia is endearing, not a flaw to them. Kinda like Bush/Reagan’s stupidity was endearing to many Reps.)

    But yeah, the question is will young people, minorities, progressives turn out, and vote for Biden.

    And Covid is the X factor.

    And Rep-Vote-Supression tactics are the Y factor.

    And will Trump start a war with Iran. Or Portland.

    And will Trump’s “Law And Order” card play well with the middle-class. It has played well all through history, in many countries. The bourgeoisie loves stability and order.

    I dunno.

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    #118313
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    From Facebook

    Erik Michael Swan

    I wouldn’t usually post something like this, but I have a front row seat to current events and feel like I need to speak out.

    I live less than two miles from the Justice Center in downtown Portland, where the majority of the racial justice protests and demonstrations have taken place. These protests have been going for over 50 days straight as of today.

    Anyone who calls these protests “riots” or the protesters “violent anarchists” is lying to you. How do I know this? Because I’ve had protesters march down my street, because I’ve SEEN THEM MYSELF.

    I feel safe around the protesters. It’s been the cops who have instigated and escalated the violence, again and again. They have tear gassed people dozens of times, choking people out of their own homes, and pulled them out of their cars into clouds of tear gas. They shot Donovan La Bella in the head with “non-lethal” projectiles while he was holding a speaker playing music, fracturing his skull and hospitalizing him. They’ve pulled people’s masks down and pepper sprayed them in the face.

    Earlier on, the people of the city demanded the police stop tear gassing its own citizens exercising their right to assembly. The city revised their protocol and restricted the police’s usage. What happened after that was that the police began declaring riots on flimsier and flimsier pretenses. Claiming protesters had a “pipe bomb” when no one has been charged with possession of one and the police have not produced any evidence. Items they have claimed were thrown at them and used to declare a riot: a can of white claw, a can of beans and (I am not making this up) a half-eaten apple.

    So who is on the streets in Portland? It’s beyond the scope of this post to really cover the different factions that have played a part. There have been windows broken, plenty of graffiti and some robberies and vandalism of property downtown (that was earlier on in the protests, since then whatever damage has occurred has been primarily on the Justice Center and Federal Courthouse). Protesters and local organizers have condemned the damage.

    But the people on the streets are not violent anarchists. They are from all walks of life. They are peaceful people exercising their freedom of assembly to protest racial injustice. They are mothers, fathers, sons and daughters of our community. They are people who’ve experienced injustice and brutality in this very city, which the cops so eagerly demonstrate every day.

    And now we have unmarked federal agents roaming the city, grabbing peaceful protesters for no cause, dragging them to the courthouse and apparently releasing them as soon as they ask for a lawyer. No charges have been made and these agents refuse to identify themselves or the agency they work for.

    I don’t think it can be understated what that has done to galvanize the movement in this city. The Trump administration couldn’t have done anything better to solidify popular support for the protesters’ cause. For every person they take, 10 more join the protests.

    This is not an exaggeration. These are literal fascist tactics taking to our streets right now based on lies and propaganda. And what is their reasoning? Vandalism and graffiti of a federal building? For that they deploy unmarked federal agents to abduct people at random?

    There are no violent riots in Portland. I don’t fear my fellow citizens of this community. I fear the police. I fear the government agents who are silently stripping our constitutionally protected rights to assemble, to free speech, against search and seizure… the list goes on. But what’s happening in this city should leave every American horrified at what we’ve become. If we let this go, they will only come for you next.

    The lines are clear here. Don’t listen to the lies. Stand with the people of Portland.

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    #118290
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    Fox version of the Portland Mayor getting himself tear-gassed.
    (I like to listen to fox sometimes, to make sure i dont get all bubbled.)
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    #118272
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    Court documents reveal secretive federal unit deployed for ‘Operation Diligent Valor’ in Oregon

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-portland-valor/court-documents-reveal-secretive-federal-unit-deployed-for-operation-diligent-valor-in-oregon-idUSKCN24N2SH

    (Reuters) – The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has deployed more than 100 federal agents to Portland, Oregon, on a mission named “Operation Diligent Valor” to patrol government buildings as anti-racism protests flared this month, court documents show.

    The documents, filed on Tuesday, helped shed light on what had been a secretive operation that involved days of violent clashes between unidentified federal law enforcement officers and anti-racist protesters outside a federal courthouse.

    The operation has involved the Department of Homeland Security’s Rapid Deployment Force. It stepped up its response to “increasingly violent attacks” in the Oregon city on July 4, the day after a group of people broke into the courthouse, according to the affidavit by the Federal Protective Services (FPS) regional director, Gabriel Russell.

    The affidavit was filed by the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Marshals Service as part of a broader lawsuit brought by journalists against the city of Portland and those agencies. The plantiffs claim that police had attempted to “intimidate the press” by attacking journalists.

    “On the morning of July 4th, the DHS Rapid Deployment Force implemented tactics intended to positively identify and arrest serious offenders for crimes such as assault, while protecting the rights of individuals engaged in protected free speech activity,” Russell wrote of the operation.

    According to the documents, there are currently 114 federal law enforcement officers in Portland to patrol federal buildings, including personnel from the FPS, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, U.S. Marshals Service and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

    The crackdown in the city has drawn widespread criticism and legal challenges as videos surfaced of officers without clear identification badges using force and unmarked vehicles to arrest protesters without explanation.

    Some protesters last week reported that it appeared agents were looking for people who were spraying graffiti on buildings.

    There have been 43 federal arrests in Portland since July 4, acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told CNN on Tuesday.

    Portland’s mayor called the intervention an abuse of federal power and said it was escalating the violence. Oregon’s attorney general filed a lawsuit against the federal agencies on Friday, saying they had seized and detained people without probable cause.

    A top U.S. Homeland Security official on Monday defended the federal crackdown on protests in Portland, including the use of unmarked cars and unidentified officers in camouflage gear and said the practice will spread to other cities as needed.

    “We will maintain our presence,” Ken Cuccinelli, the acting Department of Homeland Security deputy secretary told CNN on Monday. “When that violence recedes and those threats recede, that is when we would ratchet back down to what I would call normal presence defending and protecting federal facilities.”

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    All quoted material (ie. the bio material) is from here: https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-07-17/nfl-billionaire-team-owners-who-rule-sports-united-states

    Note: As most know, Green Bay does not have an owner. Officially, the Packers are owned by hundreds of thousands of public shareholders. A not-for-profit organization, the Green Bay Packers, Inc., hosted stock sales in 1923, 1935, 1950, 1997 and 2011. According to the team’s website, 361,311 people own 5,009,518 Packer shares. Fans don’t earn money for their investments in the team. The franchise is governed by a seven-member executive committee

    So how many of the remaining 31 teams have owners who inherited the team and/or their wealth? It’s 17.

    Arizona. Michael Bidwell. The Cardinals are the family business. Grandfather Charles Bidwill, a Chicago attorney, bought the team in 1932. Son William Bidwill was the owner until his death last October. He moved the franchise from St. Louis to Arizona in 1988. Michael has been chairman since 2007.

    Chicago. Chairman/CEO: Virginia Halas McCaskey. The McCaskey family wealth came from operating the Bears for a century. Virginia’s late father, George Halas, bought the team three years before she was born.

    Cincinnati. Chairman/CEO: Mike Brown. Brown’s father, Paul, helped found the Bengals. Paul Brown eventually became coach and general manager of the team and had autonomy over the football and business operations. Over time, the family bought a majority interest in the franchise.

    Denver. Chairman/CEO: The Pat Bowlen Trust, Joe Ellis. Pat Bowlen’s father, Paul, was a millionaire in the Canadian oil business. Pat had a successful law practice in Edmonton and also worked as an executive for his father’s company, Regent Drilling, and as a real estate developer. Pat Bowlen officially relinquished control of the franchise to team president Joe Ellis in 2014. Bowlen died five years later. It is believed that Bowlen’s daughter Brittany eventually will assume the role of controlling owner.

    Detroit. Chairman/CEO: Sheila Ford Hamp. Ford Hamp took over as principal owner in June after her 94-year-old mother, Martha Firestone Ford, stepped down after leading the organization for six seasons. Firestone Ford inherited the team when her husband, William Clay Ford, died in March 2014. Hamp Ford has attended league meetings with her mother and had been a sounding board on key organizational decisions.

    Houston. Chairman/CEO: Janice McNair. McNair’s husband, Bob, was the Texans’ original owner when he was awarded an expansion franchise in 1999. She inherited the team after he died in November of 2018.

    Indianapolis. Chairman/CEO: Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay inherited the franchise — and his money — from his father, Robert, who died in 1997.

    Kansas City. Chairman/CEO: Clark Hunt. Clark Hunt is the son of Lamar Hunt, who was one of wealthy oil baron H.L. Hunt’s 14 children. Lamar Hunt helped launch the American Football League and founded the Dallas Texans, who won the 1962 AFL title and then moved to Kansas City and became the Chiefs.

    Las Vegas. Chairman/CEO: Mark Davis. Al Davis, Mark’s father, was an assistant coach at USC and with the Chargers before becoming a player personnel assistant, a head coach, a general manager, the AFL commissioner and then eventually owner of the Raiders.

    LA Chargers. Chairman/CEO: Dean Spanos. In 1960, Dean’s father, Alex, founded AG Spanos Companies and would become one of the most prominent apartment developers in the country. The company remains among America’s largest family-owned businesses. Alex Spanos purchased majority interest in the team in 1984. Dean Spanos was named team president and chief executive officer of the Chargers in early 1994.

    New Orleans. Gayle Benson. Benson spent more than 30 years working in the interior design business. She married Tom Benson, a businessman and owner of multiple car dealerships, in 2004, to become his third wife. She inherited the Saints and the NBA’s New Orleans Pelicans in 2018 after Tom died.

    New York Giants. Chairman/CEO: John Mara/Steven Tisch. ara, a former labor lawyer, is the grandson of original team investor Timothy Mara and the oldest son of Wellington Mara. Tisch, a successful movie producer, is a son of Bob Tisch, co-founder of the Loews Corp, which bought a 50% stake in the team in 1991.

    New York Jets. Chairman/CEO: Christopher Johnson. Johnson is an heir to the Johnson & Johnson empire. His great-grandfather founded the company and his grandfather grew it into a global icon. Christopher Johnson assumed control of the Jets when his brother Woody became the U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom.

    Pittsburgh. Chairman/CEO: Art Rooney II.Art Rooney II’s grandfather, Art Rooney Sr., founded the Steelers — as the Pittsburgh Pirates in a 10-team NFL in 1933 — and grew the operation into a financial empire as franchise values swelled over several decades.

    San Francisco. Chairman/CEO: Denise DeBartolo York, John York. Denise is the granddaughter of Edward DeBartolo Sr., an Ohio-based construction magnate and commercial real estate developer who purchased the team. She is the sister of Edward DeBartolo Jr. She took control of the team in 2001 in the wake of her brother’s legal troubles. She married John York, a pathologist, in 1978.

    Seattle. Chairman/CEO: Jody Allen. Paul Allen, who died in 2018, co-founded Microsoft with Bill Gates. He also owned the NBA’s Portland Trail Blazers and was part owner of the MLS’s Seattle Sounders. His sister Jody chairs the Seahawks and the Trail Blazers and also philanthropy-centered Vulcan Inc.

    Tennessee. Chairman/CEO: Amy Adams Strunk. Adams Strunk’s father, Bud, was one of the founders of the AFL and the Titans franchise, which started as the Houston Oilers. Bud Adams made his money in the petroleum business. Adams Strunk inherited the team after her father died in 2013.

    waterfield
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    I ask you follow Portland and the Gestapo techniques in play by the unwanted and uninvited Fed military forces. As one letter writer put it the “night and fog” techniques by those in riot gear, no identification on their uniforms other than “Police” are indistinguishable from Hitler’s Gestapo. Demonstrators (non-violent) are being picked up and whisked away in unmarked vans as a show that Trump is tough. This will be the same in Chicago, San Francisco, New York as we near November. The United States is no longer “on the road” to authoritarianism. We have reached the destination. Trump’s answer to any form of dissent was learned from his father: Quash it.

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    #118140
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    The Oregonian@Oregonian
    national media reports, particularly those published by right-wing outlets, suggest a vastly different version of how safe it is for children and families to stroll through downtown Portland.

    One America News Network describes “violence gripping the city.” A Fox News headline blares “Portland protesters flood police precinct, chant about burning it down.” The New York Post reported Saturday that Portland “descended into violence.”

    Many people who live in Portland…heard over the past few days from worried relatives in other states who feared that their loved ones in Portland might have been affected by fires or caught in police crossfire as they went about their day.

    The images that populate national media feeds, however, come almost exclusively from tiny points in the city: a 12-block area surrounding the Justice Center and federal courthouse.

    And they occur exclusively during late-night hours in which only a couple hundred or fewer protesters and scores of police officers are out in the city’s coronavirus-hollowed downtown.

    Those events are hardly representative of daily life, including peaceful anti-racism demonstrations that have drawn tens of thousands of protesters, in a city of 650,000 people that encompasses 145 square miles.

    The vast majority of Portland residents spend quiet home-bound lives on hushed tree-lined streets with coronavirus and its resulting economic catastrophe as the greatest threat to their well-being.

    Portlanders swiftly rebutted Acting U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf’s portrayal of the city as under siege from violent protests, posting mundane scenes from their neighborhoods.

    As the national spotlight continues to shine on Portland, the Trump Administration dispatched federal marshals and U.S. CBP agents to protect federal property from vandalism after Wheeler ordered PPB to scale back their confrontations with demonstrators.

    @Oregonian spoke to nearly two dozen Portlanders and visitors downtown Friday as Wolf and other federal officials continued to characterize the city as lawless and under threat of constant riots. (13/14)

    #118139
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    from https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fires-set-fences-moved-police-call-portland-protest-71864787

    Before the aggressive language and action from federal officials, the unrest had frustrated Mayor Ted Wheeler and other local authorities, who had said a small cadre of violent activists were drowning out the message of peaceful protesters in the city. But Wheeler said the federal presence in the city is now exacerbating a tense situation and he has told them to depart.

    “Keep your troops in your own buildings, or have them leave our city,” Wheeler said Friday.

    Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum late Friday sued Homeland Security and the Marshals Service in federal court. The complaint said unidentified federal agents have grabbed people off Portland’s streets “without warning or explanation, without a warrant, and without providing any way to determine who is directing this action.”

    Rosenblum said she was seeking a temporary restraining order to “immediately stop federal authorities from unlawfully detaining Oregonians.”

    The administration has enlisted federal agents, including the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group and an elite U.S. Customs and Border Protection team based on the U.S.-Mexico border, to protect federal property.

    But Oregon Public Broadcasting reported this week that some agents had been driving around in unmarked vans and snatching protesters from streets not near federal property, without identifying themselves.

    Tensions also escalated after an officer with the Marshals Service fired a less-lethal round at a protester’s head on July 11, critically injuring him.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Oregon, issued a joint statement Saturday denouncing the Trump administration’s actions.

    “We live in a democracy, not a banana republic. We will not tolerate the use of Oregonians, Washingtonians — or any other Americans — as props in President Trump’s political games. The House is committed to moving swiftly to curb these egregious abuses of power immediately,” they said.

    Hundreds of people had gathered Friday night for a vigil outside the downtown Justice Center, which is sandwiched between two federal buildings, including a courthouse, The Oregonian/OregonLive reported. Across the street, dozens of other protesters entered two recently closed city parks after dismantling chain-link fencing that blocked access.

    Federal agents emerged from an office building next door and used impact munitions, stun grenades and tear gas to clear the area, the news organization reported. It said its journalists did not observe any incident that might have prompted the use of the weapons.

    Federal officers deployed tear gas again just before midnight after a few protesters placed dismantled fencing in front of plywood doors covering the entrance of the federal courthouse.

    Early Saturday, Portland police declared the gathering unlawful, saying protesters had piled fencing in front of the exits to the federal courthouse and the Multnomah County Justice Center and then shot off fireworks at the Justice Center.

    Federal officers and local police then advanced simultaneously on the demonstrators to clear the streets, making arrests as protesters threw bottles and pieces of metal fence at police, the Portland Police Bureau said. Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell told reporters Friday that his officers are in contact with the federal agents, but that neither controls the others’ actions.

    The overnight action by Portland’s police was condemned by Jo Ann Hardesty, a prominent member of the City Council. Hardesty said Saturday that local police “joined in the aggressive clampdown of peaceful protest.”

    Hardesty also slammed Wheeler, telling the mayor he needed to better control local law enforcement. Hardesty, who oversees the city’s fire department and other first-responder agencies, said in an open letter to Wheeler if “you can’t control the police, give me the Portland Police Bureau.”

    #118112
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    Jus somethin on portland:

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    #118016
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    On the Shameful and Skewed ‘Redskins’ Poll
    The Washington Post did a grave disservice by utterly ignoring studies that clearly demonstrate the harm mascotting causes.

    MAY 25, 2016

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/on-the-shameful-and-skewed-redskins-poll/

    Last Thursday, The Washington Post published a poll on its front page that found that 90 percent of “Native Americans” were “not bothered” by the dictionary-defined ethnic slur “Redskins,” sending shock waves through the sports world and Indian Country. That slur, of course, is also the name of the local NFL franchise that the Post covers.

    This article is part of the Edge of Sports series, an ongoing effort to publish new writers on the intersection of sports and politics.

    To get this number, the Post’s polling team questioned 504 self-identified Native Americans from all 50 states. Given that I have 50 first cousins who are enrolled in the Navajo and Yankton Dakota Sioux Nations, none of whom likes the team name, I found the results to be curious. When I looked more closely at the methodology of the poll, I was appalled.

    First and foremost, the Post states clearly that they did not verify the actual Native American identity or tribal enrollment of its respondents. Unlike most “minorities,” non-Native Americans have often declared themselves Native American with little or no factual evidence or cultural connection whatsoever. Furthermore, 56 percent of those asked said they were not part of any tribal nation or could not name what tribe their ancestors claimed. Imagine asking 500 white Americans for an opinion about Europe and not caring that more than half had no connection to their ancestors’ place of origin.

    When asked about this (via e-mail), Scott Clement, the polling director at the Post responded:

    We see little reason to suspect respondents would intentionally misreport their racial identity or tribal status to a confidential survey. The overall poll results suggest respondents understood a distinction between racial identification and tribal membership, given that a majority of self-identified Native Americans said they were not enrolled. The substantive questions about the team’s name came at the end of polls on other subjects and after survey respondents already had self-identified, leaving no motive (or even opportunity) for individuals to self-identify as Native American when they learned that the questions would center on the team’s name.

    Leaving aside the issues of “self-identification,” there is also a problem with demographics. More than half, 274, were over the age of 50. Native Americans have a median age of 26—nearly 10 years younger than the general American population. The Post claims that they “weighted” the results to make sure that those over 50 were given just 39 percent of the voice. But even with “weighting,” by speaking primarily to people over 50—and then including their quotes in the piece as representative of the survey—the Post presented an inaccurate portrait of who we are as a people.

    Male respondents also outnumbered female ones, which was quite a feat as Native American men have the highest mortality rates in the country. I remember when my dad was in his 50s and he went back to his reservation in South Dakota and was shocked to realize he was the only Yankton Dakota man left from his high-school class.

    Furthermore, only 76, or 15 percent, of respondents were under the age of 29—and none of the respondents were under 18. Clement said that the Post never polls people under 18. “Our national surveys typically interview the adult population both for its relevance to voting and political participation and practical difficulties in reaching respondents who are younger than that age, i.e. ethical considerations about obtaining parental permission to participate.”

    But not polling this segment of the population means the results exclude the Native American students who attend the 2,000 high schools in this country that mascot Native Americans. The White House Initiative on American Indian and Alaska Native Education report [PDF] recounts firsthand experiences of Native youth facing discrimination in their learning environment caused by mascotting.

    Aside from demographics, there was also the geographic distribution of the poll. Very few were from areas of the country where most Native American people reside. Only 12 percent of those polled were from the Mountain region where 18 out of 20 of the most heavily populated Native American reservation communities are, according to the US Census. However, 36 percent of the respondents were from the South, where in 1836 most of the Native American population was forcibly marched out on the Trail of Tears. Now, according to the Census, only 13 percent of the total estimated population of Native Americans lives in the South. Clement said that this did not affect their results, e-mailing, “Respondents in the Mountain region were among the most likely to report enrollment with a tribe (67 percent did so), but the share who said the Washington Redskins’ team name was offensive was little different from the overall results (8 percent).”

    Brian Pollard, board member of the Native American Journalists Association and former Cherokee Phoenix editor said to me, “What they’ve created is a piece of data that drives a narrative they desired. This is pretty much frowned upon in the world of journalism to create a story in this way. It would be different if Stanford did a poll and The Washington Post covered it. That to me would be much more ethical from a journalistic standpoint. But this was way beyond that. This was something they manufactured from the beginning.”

    Even if the poll was conducted perfectly and even if the results had been completely reversed, The Washington Post did a grave disservice by utterly ignoring studies that clearly demonstrate the harm mascotting causes to Native youth—the most vulnerable population in the country by almost any statistic.

    Our young people have a rate of suicide 2.5 times higher than average. According to the American Psychological Association, which has called for the ending of the practice of mascotting, Native youth suffer measurably lower self-esteem after exposure to a Native American mascot. It also found that Native respondents who claim to be okay with Native mascots actually experience a greater drop in self-esteem. This finding is particularly relevant to the Washington Post poll, which has been widely interpreted as proof that there’s no harm in using the slur for a $2 billion NFL franchise in the nation’s capital.

    On Friday the Native American Journalist Association in conjunction with UNITY: Journalists of Diversity issued a statement criticizing the poll for violating the tenet to “minimize harm” in reporting.

    The reporters and editors behind this story must have known that it would be used as justification for the continued use of these harmful, racist mascots. They were either willfully malicious or dangerously naïve in the process and reporting used in this story, and neither is acceptable from any journalistic institution…. It is NAJA’s position that journalism should only be practiced when it is in the interest of public enlightenment and democracy, and should never be used as a tool of racial oppression or corporate cheerleading.

    Scott Clement responded to NAJA, writing:

    The Post pursued this poll without any idea as to how it would turn out and had no vested interest in the outcome. When activists argue that Native Americans are offended by the name—and when debate over the name is at the center of a major public-policy debate—it’s entirely appropriate for a news organization to conduct a survey to test any assertions made about the breadth and depth of offense among Native Americans. This is customary for any other public policy issue.”

    But is this really customary? Are pollsters judging the “breadth and depth” of how offensive other dictionary-defined slurs are? Tragically, it is only Native Americans who have to suffer this kind of humiliation, especially when the multibillion-dollar brand of the paper’s local football team hangs in the balance.

    Jacqueline KeelerTWITTERJacqueline Keeler is a Navajo/Yankton Dakota Sioux writer living in Portland, Oregon and co-founder of Eradicating Offensive Native Mascotry (creators of the hashtag #NotYourMascot). She is finishing a collection of essays called Not Your Disappearing Indian and editing an anthology of Native voices for Torrey House Press on preserving sacred lands.

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    What I do ? Lane:
    We’re figuring out what’s going on Drop the bag. ShawandaRenee Hill:
    Figure out what’s going on 00:03:54 . Lane:
    What’s the problem ? Shawanda Renee Hill:
    Somebody said something to him , it ain’t us. Speaker 7:
    Wewas getting aride, sir. Shawanda Renee Hill:
    just gotmy phone fixed. crosstalk 00:04:00 ). Speaker 7:
    You can ask Adam about us, Adam know me. Lane:
    Are you good? crosstalk 00:04:06 ]. You got ID Shawanda Renee Hill
    Come and getme, girl they going took Floyd to Jail, guna take Floyd to jail.
    Comeandgetme Speaker 7:
    YoucanaskMr.Adamaboutussir.YoucanaskMrAdamaboutme, coo.l Lane:
    DoyouhaveID? Shawanda Renee Hill:
    I’m on 38th and Chicago. 38th and Chicago. Lane:
    320 for code four Speaker 7
    YoucanaskMr.Adam aboutme,sir.Ijustcameandboughtatablet.AndwhenIboughtthetablet,it didn’twork orwhatever.
    Shawanda Renee Hill:
    OhmyGod,hedidn’t evendonothing. Speaker 7
    Here you go sir. Lane:
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    Do you haveID ShawandaRenee Hill
    No I don’t.Myname’s Shawanda ReneeHill. Fuck, no. Lane :
    Okay . Speaker 7:
    Sirher andi were justgetting aride, MrAdam ,MrAdam knowsmeman. Shawanda Renee Hill
    justcameovertogetmyphone.Yousee don’thaveapurseornothing,andmydaughterisonher wayto getme
    Lane:
    What’s his deal? Shawanda Renee Hill:
    I don’tknow Speaker 7
    Mr.Adam knowsme,sir. crosstalk 00:04:50 Shawanda Renee Hill:
    That’smyex. Idon’tknow . Lane:
    Why’shegetting allsquirrelly and not showing us his hands, and justbeingallweird like that ? Shawanda Renee Hill:
    i have no clue, because he’s been shot before . Lane:
    Well get that,butstillwhen officers say,”Getoutofthe car.” Ishedrunk, isheonsomething? Shawanda Renee Hill:
    No,hegotathinggoing on,I’m tellingyouaboutthepolice. Lane:
    What does thatmean ? Shawanda Renee Hill
    Hehave problems all the timewhen they come, especially when that man put that gun likethat. It’s been one.
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    Lane:
    What’s your firstname? Shawanda Renee Hill:
    His name isGeorge Floyd. Lane:
    What isit? Speaker 7
    He’s a good guy. George Floyd she said. Lane:
    Can you spell that? Speaker 7:
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    I don’tknow how to spellGeorgesir. Lane:
    Hername. ShawandaReneeHill
    Ohmyname? Lane:
    Yeah , yeah ShawandaReneeHill:
    ShawandaReneeHil.l Lane:
    Can you spell it? Shawanda ReneeHill
    S-H-A-W -A-N-D-A. Lane:
    S-H-A-W ShawandaReneeHill
    A-N-D-A. Speaker 7
    Heallrightsir.Like said,butMr.Adams ShawandaReneeHill
    Yeah, heok. Lane:
    Kueng,justputhim in thecar.Shawandawhat? ShawandaRenee Hill
    Hill,orRenee, R-E-N-E-E. Lane:
    What’syourlastname? ShawandaRenee Hill
    Hill, H-I-L-L. Lane:
    And your date of birth ? Shawanda Renee Hill
    isya’llcomingto getme. 1/27/75. Okay. Lane:
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    Okaywellso here’sthething, someonepasseda fakebillin there.Wecomeoverhere,he starts grabbingforthekeysandallthatstuff, startsgettingweird,notshowingushishands.Idon’tknow
    what’s goingon, so you’re comingoutofthe car. So, just hang tightrighthere. Stayright here, please. George Floyd:
    Ouch, ouchman! Lane:
    What areyou on somethingrightnow ? George Floyd
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    No, nothing. Kueng:
    Because you acting a little erratic. Lane:
    Let’s go. Let’s go George Floyd:
    I’m scared ,man Lane:
    Let’s go Kueng:
    You got foam around yourmouth , too ? George Floyd:
    Yes, I was just hooping earlier . Lane:
    Let’s go George Floyd:
    Man,allrightletmecalm downnow.I’m feelingbetternow. Lane :
    Keep walking . George Floyd:
    Can youdomeonefavorman? Lane:
    No, when we get to the car. Let’s get to the carman, comeon. Kueng:
    Stopmoving around George Floyd:
    man,Goddon’tleavememan.Pleaseman,pleaseman. Lane:
    Here.Iwanttowatch thatcartoo, so justgethim in. Kueng:
    Standup,stopfallingdown!Standup Stayonyourfeetandfacethecar door! George Floyd:
    Im claustrophobic man, please man , please . Lane
    you get a search on him Kueng
    No,notyet. George Floyd:
    just want totalk toyouman.Please,letmetalk to you.Please. Lane
    Kueng
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    You ain’t listening to nothing we’re saying. George Floyd
    know Speaker 8
    So we’re not going to listen to nothing you saying. Lane:
    Can you watch thatcar? Just make sure no one goes in it. George Floyd
    Im claustrophobic . Kueng:
    hear you, but you are going to face this door right now . Lane:
    Listen up, stop! George Floyd:
    illdoanything,illdoanythingy’alltellmetooman.I’m notresistingman.I’mnot!I’mnot!Youcanask him , they know me.
    Lane:
    check that side. George Floyd :
    Godman, won’t do nothinglike that.Why is this going on like this? Look at mywrist Mr.Officer, I’m not thatkind ofguy
    Lane:
    Check the other side. George Floyd:
    Mr.Officer,MrOfficer,I’m notthatkindofguy. Lane:
    Stop
    George Floyd:
    Please, I’m not that kind of guy,Mr.Officer. Please! Lane:
    Just face away George Floyd:
    Please,man. Don’t leavemebymyselfman, please, I’m just claustrophobic that’s it. Lane:
    Well, you’re still going in the car. Kueng
    Anything sharp on you? George Floyd:
    Iwon’t donothing to hurt you,MrOfficer. Kueng
    Do you have anything sharp on you ? George Floyd:
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    No, sir. Kueng:
    Not even like a comb or nothing George Floyd:
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    I don’thavenothing. Why y’alldoingmelikethis Mr.Officer? Please crack thewindow formeandstuff.
    am claustrophobicfor rea,lMr.Officer. Lane:
    You got him ? George Floyd:
    Could you please crack it for me, please? Lane:
    Yes, I’llcrack it.Iwill George Floyd
    Pleasestaywithmeman,thankyou.God,man.Ididn’tknow allthiswasgoingtohappenman.Please
    man 00:08:05 . I don’t want to do nothing to y’allman, nothing. Lane:
    You gotit? Kueng:
    yougettheinsideinnerpocketrealquickon yourside.I’m listening. George Floyd:
    understandthatpeopledo stuff,and Lane:
    Allright,he’sgood. justlookingforguns and whatever. George Floyd:
    Okay, okay, okay. Lane:
    grab aseat. George Floyd:
    Okay. Kueng:
    Why are you having trouble walking George Floyd:
    Because officer, inaudible 00:08:31]. Lane:
    I’llrollthe windowsdown, okay ? George Floyd:
    Please man, please don’t do this! Kueng:
    Take a seat! George Floyd
    I’m going in,Mr.Officer, I’m going in .
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    Kueng:
    No, you’renot! George Floyd:
    I’m gunagoin! Kueng:
    Take a seat! Lane:
    Grab a seat,man. George Floyd
    Why don’t y’all believeme, Mr.Officer? Kueng:
    Take a seat ! George Floyd:
    I’mnotthatkindofguy!I’m notthatkindofguy,man! Kueng:
    Takea seat! George Floyd
    Y’all goingto dieinhere! goingto die,man! Kueng:
    You need to take a seat right now ! George Floyd:
    And I just had man, don’t want to go back to that. Lane:
    Okay, rollthe windowsdown.Hey, listen ! George Floyd:
    Dang, man Lane:
    Listen ! George Floyd:
    I’m notthatkindofguy. Lane:
    I’llrollthewindowsdownifyouputyour legsin allright? George Floyd:
    [ inaudible 00:08:57 ] look at that , look at that . Look at it ! Speaker 8
    putthe air on.
    You’re not even listening.Wecan fix it, butnotwhile you’re standing out here. George Floyd:
    Okay,man.God,y’alldomebadman.Man, I don’twant to try to twin to try to win.
    Speaker 9
    Quit resistingbro. George Floyd:
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    I don’t want to win . I’m claustrophobic, and i gotanxiety, I don’twant to do nothing to them ! Lane
    I’llroll window down. George Floyd:
    Man, I’m scared as fuckman . Speaker 9
    That’s okay, 00:09:12 . George Floyd:
    inaudible 00:09:12 ]when I startbreathing it’s going to go off onme,man. Lane:
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    Pullyourlegsin George Floyd :
    Okay, okay, letme countto three. Letme count to three andthen Speaker 9:
    going in, please.
    You can’t win ! George Floyd:
    I’m not trying to win! man, he know it
    Lane:
    I’llgo to the other side inaudible 00:09:21 George Floyd:
    Heknow ittooMr.Officerdon’tdomelikethat,man. Kueng
    Getin the car.
    George Floyd :
    Can Italk to youplease? Kueng
    Ifyougetin this car,wecan talk! George Floyd:
    I’m claustrophobic Kueng
    I’m hearingyou,butyou’renotworkingwithme! George Floyd:
    God, claustrophobic. Lane:
    Plant your butt overhere, Kueng:
    Get in the car ! George Floyd:
    CanIgetin thefront,please? Kueng
    No, you’re not getting in the front.
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    George Floyd:
    I’m claustrophobic,Mr.Officer. Kueng
    Getin the car! George Floyd:
    Okay,man,okay!I’m notabadguyman! Kueng:
    Get in the car ! George Floyd:
    I’m nota bad guy! Man, [inaudible 00:10:02 . Please, Mr.Officer! Please ! Kueng:
    Take a seat ! George Floyd :
    Please! Please! No, inaudible 00:10:10 . Kueng:
    Take a seat. George Floyd:
    I can’t choke,Ican’t breatheMr.Officer!Please! Please! Kueng:
    Fine.
    George Floyd
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    Mywrist,mywristman. Okay, okay. I want to layon the ground.I want to layon the ground. I want to layon the ground!
    Lane:
    your getting in the squad. George Floyd :
    want to lay on the ground ! I’m going down, Kueng:
    Take asquat George Floyd
    I’m going down Speaker 9
    going down, I’m going down.
    Bro, you about tohave aheartattack and shitman,get in the car! George Floyd:
    I know I can’t breathe. I can’t breathe crosstalk 00:10:18 ] . Lane:
    Get him on the ground . George Floyd:
    Let go ofmeman , I can’t breathe. I can’t breathe. Lane:
    Take a seat George Floyd:
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    Please,man. Please listen to me. Chauvin :
    Ishegoingto jail? George Floyd: Pleaselisten to me.
    Kueng
    He’s under arrest rightnow for forgery. George Floyd:
    Forgery forwhat? for what ? Lane:
    Let’stakehim outandjustMRE. George Floyd:
    can’t fucking breatheman.I can’t fucking breathe. Kueng:
    Here, Comeon out! George Floyd:
    inaudible 00:11:10) thank you. Thank you. Thao:
    Justlayhim ontheground. Lane:
    Can you just get up on the, I appreciate that, I do. Chauvin :
    Do you got your ah, restraint, Hobble? George Floyd:
    I can’tbreathe. I can’t breathe. I can’t breathe. Lane:
    Jesus Christ. George Floyd:
    can’t breathe. Lane:
    Thank you. George Floyd:
    I can’tbreathe. Kueng
    Stop moving George Floyd:
    Mama,mama, mama, mama. Kueng:
    [inaudible 00:11:45] one of the frontpouches George Floyd:
    Mama,mama, mama. Kueng:
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    …on my right side bag. George Floyd:
    Mama,mama,mama. Lane:
    320 Can we get EMScode2, for one bleedingfrom themouth. Chauvin :
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    Your under arrest guy. George Floyd:
    Allright, allright. OhmyGod. I can’tbelievethis.I Chauvin :
    So your goingto jai.l Lane:
    Affirm . George Floyd:
    believe this.
    I can’t believe this man. Mom , I love you. [ Reese 00:12:09] I love you. Lane:
    You got 00:12:10). George Floyd:
    TellmykidsIlovethem.I’m dead Lane:
    Mine’sinmy side,it’s listed, it’s labeled. Itsays hobble, it’s in the top. George Floyd:
    Ican’tbreatheornothingman.Thiscold bloodedman.Ah- Chauvin :
    You’re doing a lotoftalking,man . George Floyd
    Mama, I love you. I can’t do nothing. Kueng:
    EMSison their way
    welldo you wantahobbleatthis point then? Lane:
    !Ah-Ah!Ah-Ah!
    Um ok , allriggt George Floyd:
    Myface is gone.
    can’t breathe. Lane:
    Can you getupon the sidewalkplease, onesideorthe other please? George Floyd:
    Myface is getting it bad. Lane:
    Here, should we gethis legs up, or is this good?
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    Chauvin
    Leave him Kueng:
    Just leave him yep Chauvin :
    Just leave him Lane:
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    Allright.HopefullyPark’sstillsitting onthecar.Theywere,Hewasactingrealshadylikesomething’sin there .
    Thao
    Ishehighon something? Lane:
    I’m assuming so Kueng:
    Ibelieve so,we found a pipe. Lane:
    Hewouldn’t get outof the car. He wasn’t following instructions. [crosstalk 00:13:10). Yeah, it’s across the street Park’s watching it, two other people with him .
    George Floyd:
    Please, I can’tbreathe. Please,man. Pleaseman! Thao:DoyouhaveEMScoming code3?
    Lane:
    Ahcode2,wecanprobably stepitupthen. Yougotit?(crosstalk00:13:29 . George Floyd:
    Please ,man ! Thao:
    Relax! George Floyd:
    can’t breathe. Kueng
    You’re fine, you’re talking fine. Lane:
    Your talken , Deep breath . George Floyd:
    I can’t breathe. Ican’t breathe. Ah! I’llprobably just die this way. Thao:
    Relax
    George Floyd :
    can’t breathemy face. Lane :
    He’s got to be on something. Thao
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    Wellgetup andgetin thecar,man.Getupandgetinthecar. George Floyd:
    I will I can’tmove. Speaker 9:
    Lethim getinthecar. Lane :
    Wefoundaweed pipeonhim,theremightbesomethingelse,theremightbelikePCPorsomething.Is that the shaking of the eyesrightis PCP ?
    George Floyd :
    Myknee,myneck. Lane:
    Where their eyes like shakeback and forth really fast? George Floyd:
    Im through, through. I’m claustrophobic. Mystomach hurts. Myneckhurts. Everythinghurts. Ineed
    somewater or something, please. Please ?I can’t breathe officer. Chauvin :
    Then stop talking, stop yelling. George Floyd:
    You’re going to killme,man. Chauvin :
    Then stop talking, stop yelling, it takes a heck of a lot of oxygen to talk . George Floyd:
    Comeon,man.Oh, oh. crosstalk 00:15:03].I cannotbreathe.I cannotbreathe. Ah! They’llkillme. They’ll killme. I can’t breathe. I can’tbreathe. !
    Speaker 8
    We tried that for 10minutes. George Floyd :
    Ah! Ah! Please. Please. Please. Lane:
    Shouldwerollhim on hisside? Chauvin
    No,he’s stayingputwherewegothim . Lane:
    Okay. justworry aboutthe excited delirium orwhatever. Chauvin
    Well that’s why wegot the ambulance coming. Lane:
    Okay, isuppose.
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    Gethim offtheground,bro.Gethim offtheground crosstalk00:16:16.Heain’tdoanyofthatshit.He a fuckingbum bro, he enjoyingthat shit rightnow bro. You couldhavefuckingputhim in the car by
    now,bro.He’snotresistingarrestornothing. inaudible00:16:48] bodylanguageiscrazy. crosstalk
    00:16:48] dudes at the academybro. you know thatbogusrightnow bro. Youknow it’sbogus. Youcan’t
    even look atmelike amanbecauseyou now bro.
    ShawandaReneeHill:
    He’s aboutto passout. Lane:
    I thinkhe’spassingout. Speaker 13
    He’snotevenbreathingright 00:16:58]
    Chauvin :
    you guys alright though ? Lane:
    00:16:48] bro. He’s not even resistingarrest right
    He’s breathing Kueng
    He’s breathing. crosstalk 00:17:26). Chauvin :
    Don’t comeover here. Don’t comeover here. Lane:
    Up on the sidewalk! Kueng :
    Weneedyoutokeepsomedistance. Speaker 14
    Ishe responsive? Chauvin :
    yea, we have an ambulance coming Speaker 14
    Doeshehave a pulse? Speaker 8
    Get off crosstalk 00:17:42 . Lane:
    Should we rollhim on his side? Speaker 13
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    bro, you thinkthat’scool?Youthinkthat’scoo,lright?[crosstalk
    Yeah, Imeanmykneemightbea little scratched,butI’llsurvive. Speaker 13
    You’re a bum bro, you’re a bum for that. Can’t you be aman and see here he’s notbreathing rightnow . Lane:
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    He’s notresponsive rightnow, bro. Speaker 14
    Doeshe have a pulse? Speaker 13
    No, bro . Look at him , he’snot responsive right now , bro. Bro, are you serious? Lane:
    you gotone? Speaker 14:
    Letme see a pulse. Kueng
    i couldn’t fine one Speaker 13
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    Is he breathingright now ? Check his pulse. Check his pulse. Check his pulse. inaudible 00:18:19 check
    hispulse. crosstalk 00:18:19). Check hispulse, bro. inaudible 00:18:21] drugs bro. What you think that is? crosstalk 00:18:25). Youcallwhat youdoingokay?[inaudible00:18:25 .
    Speaker 14
    Yes, I am from Minneapolis. Speaker 15
    Okay, get off the sidewalk . Speaker 14:
    Showmehispulse. Check itrightfucking now . Speaker 15:
    Getback on the sidewalk. [crosstalk 00:18:33). Speaker 14
    He’s notmoving! Speaker 13:
    Bro, you’re a bum bro. You’re a bum bro. Speaker 14
    Checkhispulserightnow andtellmewhatitis. Tellmewhathispulseisrightnow. Speaker 13:
    Check his pulse. Bro, he has not moved ( crosstalk 00:19:43). Lane:
    What ?
    Dispatch: Squad 330 EMSis at Portland and 36th theywere advised of code 3. Lane:
    Therewere advisedwhat?
    Kueng
    Ofcode 3 Chauvin :
    Acknowledge that Dispatch:
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    Copy i was just giving you their updated location, they are en route. Lane:
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    Therewego. Speaker 13
    Bro , he was just moving when I walked up
    [inaudible 00:19:43 ]. Speaker 16:
    crosstalk 00:19:43 ]. Bro, he’s not fucking moving! Bro
    Get the fuck off of him what are you doing? crosstalk 00:19:43 . dying bro, what are you doing ? Lane:
    He’s not responsive right now , you guys probably want to crosstalk 00:19:44 ]. Yeah. Speaker 16
    Get off him ! crosstalk 00:19:53 . Lane:
    Should we get another car?Another car just for the crowd. inaudible 00:20:06 ) Chauvin :
    Let’s get him on inaudible 00:20:11 . Speaker 13
    inaudible 00:20:14 bro inaudible 00:20:16] like that. inaudible 00:20:17 thatman in front ofyou, bro ?He’s noteven fuckingmoving rightnow,bro. crosstalk 00:20:23).
    Lane:
    yourlightson again Speaker 17
    Youguys can get out oftheway. [crosstalk 00:21:11.
    Lane:
    Youwantoneofusto ridewith? Kueng:
    Yeah . Lane :
    Ridewith? Okay. Idon’t havemyphone so I’llbeBaker (crosstalk 00:21:48].What’sthat? Chauvin:
    Gelt them belted Down Kueng:
    Help getbelted down. Chauvin :
    Getbelted down Lane:
    yup, where we going ? Speaker 17
    We’re justgoing to be downthe street. Lane :
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    You guyswantto shutthedoors, getout ofhere, andwe’re goingtogodownthe street. Lane:
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    Doyouwanthere orno? Speaker 17:
    Yeah , go to something, 40th , Tell fire where to go . Lane:
    Okay.Doyouwantmein thereorno? Speaker 17
    yea. Lane:
    Allright. Oops. Speaker 17:
    You’re fine. Kueng:
    Lane ? Lane :
    Yep Kueng:
    This yours ? Lane:
    Yeah,nope. Speaker 17:
    All rightwhatwas going on ? Lane:
    Itwas forgery report Speaker 17:
    Yep Lane:
    And he was just notcompliant with getting outof the car. Speaker 17
    Okay Lane:
    Weweretryingtogethim inthebackofthesquad,andhe Speaker 17:
    Yep. Lane:
    justbasicallyresisting.
    Hewasn’tshowingushishandsatfirst.Thenweweretryingto gethim intothesquad,hekickedhis way out,he was kickingon there. And we cameout the other side, and hewas fighting us, andwewere
    justbasicallyrestrainedhim untilyouguysgot . Speaker 17
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    Samuel James on what policing looks like in Portland, Maine, when you are Black:

    “One summer evening a few years back, my white girlfriend and I were returning home from a nice dinner out. As we approached our apartment she took out her keys to unlock the front door. She walked up the steps first. I stood behind her waiting. We weren’t arguing or yelling. We weren’t even talking. She was standing there unlocking the door and I was standing completely still behind her. This is important because right then we were suddenly illuminated by a police-car searchlight.

    ‘Hey! What are you doing? Miss, are you alright?! Miss! Are you alright?!’ an officer shouted from behind the light.

    Being completely alright, my girlfriend turned around startled and confused. I was also startled, but being the only Black person in five blocks, I was not confused. I was angry. It is infuriating to be reminded once again that the police so often see the color of my skin as a signifier of crime. In this case, potential robbery or perhaps attempted rape.

    I do not have words to express the frustration and rage I feel knowing that even though I am not living in the 1800s and not running through the woods escaping a plantation, I am nonetheless, in this moment, held to account for my presence by white men with searchlights and badges and guns because they view my skin color as a threat to a white woman. Again.”

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    How the geography of the pandemic is determined by centuries-old regional differences
    Analysis: Fundamental differences in the balance between individual liberty and the common good are reflected in COVID-19 trends.

    https://www.pressherald.com/2020/07/05/how-the-geography-of-the-pandemic-is-determined-by-centuries-old-regional-differences/?fbclid=IwAR3atxv4DW4v96QoeY0tiTrClJiqpI3RriTDyumgURtvTZUc-OOm9AwZe70

    As the coronavirus surges across the southern United States, Americans are once again seeing the profound effects of centuries-old regional differences in attitudes toward individual liberty, the common good, and the possibility or even desirability of competent, technocratic governance.

    Those differences – and the abdication of federal leadership by President Trump – have turned the United States into ground zero for the pandemic, a country Canada, the European Union and other countries are now trying to quarantine themselves away from.

    Distinct regional cultures make up the United States, cultures originating in the differences between the different Euro-American colonial projects on the eastern and southwestern rims of what is now the United States and the mutually exclusive swaths of the country their descendants first colonized. The cultures – described in my 2011 book, “American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America” – don’t respect state or even international boundaries, and their enduring effect on history, social attitudes, elections, and public health can only be seen at the county level.

    A detailed analysis of the regional variations in new case trends, using a county-level COVID-19 data set painstakingly assembled, updated and shared with the public by The New York Times, maps precisely to what “American Nations” would predict.

    The fundamental philosophical divide between these regional cultures is over the question of how best to organize American society.

    Three large and important ones have cultures that see freedom’s path lying almost exclusively with individual liberty and personal sovereignty. Greater Appalachia was founded by settlers from war-ravaged borderlands in the British Isles. They brought their warrior ethic and deep commitment to personal sovereignty into the United States. The Deep South was established by oligarchic slave lords from the West Indies, and championed a form of classical republicanism wherein “democracy” was a privilege for the few and servitude or slavery the lot of the many. Finally, in the Far West, environmental factors meant settlers were dependent on and directed by the federal government and major corporations – powerful institutions that often exploited them; the ethos is libertarian-inflected.

    By contrast, there are four “nations” that place a greater emphasis on the common good and the need to sustain and protect a free community. Yankeedom, which constitutes much of the upper Midwest and New England, was settled by religious congregations that prize community and support self-denial on behalf of the common good. New Netherland, the modern-day New York metropolitan area, has a dedication to free expression and multiculturalism that stems from the 18th-century Dutch commitment to globalization. On the Left Coast, New Englanders and Appalachian settlers combined to create a culture with both Yankee utopianism and Appalachian individualism. The Midlands was first founded by English Quakers who believed in humans’ inherent goodness and welcomed people of many nations in the early Colonial period; it spawned the culture of Middle America, which is communitarian, even as it is skeptical of top-down government intervention. (First Nation, confined in the United States to sparsely populated parts of northern and western Alaska, is the most communitarian of all.)

    That leaves three in-between regional cultures: El Norte, the far-flung borderlands of the Spanish-American empire, and Tidewater, founded by the younger sons of the southern English gentry trying to replicate the semi-feudal society of the English countryside, but now transforming into something more Midlands-like due to the massive presence of the federal government in D.C. and the Hampton Roads areas.

    From the outset, the geography of the coronavirus response followed these patterns to a disturbing degree, with people and leaders in communitarian regions generally taking a robust response to slowing the spread of the virus and leaders in individualistic ones often flouting science and safety, leading their constituents to make few changes to their movements and, presumably, routines.

    At the end of March, cellphone tracking data showed the changes in travel in each U.S. county for the week of March 23 as compared to Feb. 28, before the coronavirus outbreak began. Yankeedom, the Midlands, New Netherland and the Left Coast showed dramatic decreases in movement – 70 to 100 percent in most counties, whether urban or rural, rich or poor. Across much of Greater Appalachia, the Deep South and the Far West, by contrast, travel was reduced by only 15 to 50 percent.

    Similarly, the initial response by state governors varied by regional culture more than by the partisan affiliation. Republican governors in Vermont, New Hampshire Massachusetts and Ohio took early and firm action to reduce the spread of the disease, while their counterparts in the Deep South left decision-making at the local level (Georgia) or declined to close or mandate changes in practices in businesses (Mississippi) or simply allowed spring breakers to party on the beaches (Florida). “I don’t like government telling private business what they can and cannot do,” Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves said March 31, even as Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker was doing just that.

    In the initial phase, the pandemic struck first and hardest in high-density places with intimate transportation and trade links to China and Europe, where the coronavirus first got out of hand. New York City, Boston and Seattle emerged as hot spots, while much of the South, Southwest and Midwest remained calm.

    But this disparity has reversed itself in tragic and preventable ways as the more communitarian regions got the virus under control through social distancing, mandated closures, and a high level of compliance with public health recommendations to wear masks, maintain 6 feet of distance from one another and avoid risky activities like hanging out in crowded bars. Regions with an emphasis on individual liberty reopened early, typically had leaders who downplayed the threat, and saw far less public compliance with scientific recommendations.

    Using The New York Times’ database, the Portland Press Herald/Maine Sunday Telegram sorted all new daily cases of the disease from the start of the pandemic to June 30 by the 11 regional cultures identified in “American Nations,” then plotted them with a seven-day sliding curve.

    The gulf between the regions is stark and alarming.

    The three nations most committed to individual liberty – which leads some people to refuse to wear masks to protect others – saw their case counts explode in the last two weeks of June, as did El Norte.

    In the Deep South, the seven-day rolling average of new cases went from 4,276 a day to a shocking 10,271 in that two-week period, up from around 1,800 a day for much of May.d Press Herald/Maine Sunday Telegram sorted all new daily cases of the disease from the start of the pandemic to June 30 by the 11 regional cultures identified in “American Nations,” then plotted them with a seven-day sliding curve.

    Greater Appalachia – the most populous of the 11 nations – went from 4,071 a day to 7,267 in the same period, up from around 2,600 a day in Mid-May.

    The Far West’s case rate doubled from 1,936 to 3,823 a day.

    El Norte’s curve has also been shocking, more than doubling from 4,113 to 8,405 cases a day.

    By contrast, three of the four communitarian nations – all of them more densely populated than those mentioned above – have experienced only modest growth in the pace of new cases over the past two weeks, and remain at levels far below that of their peak in April and early May.

    Yankeedom – home to Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis and other major cities – went from 2,456 cases daily to 2,656 in the same period, an increase of less than 8 percent and far below the peak of 7,918 on April 29.

    There are, of course, no real borders between the “American Nations,” and under the Constitution, states don’t really have the ability to seal themselves off from one another, the way Canadian provinces like New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island were able to do to stop the disease in its tracks. Airlines are flying, and several major carriers have announced they intend to fill every seat they can. It’s easy to envision this explosion of cases in the Deep South and Greater Appalachia spreading to New Netherland and Yankeedom, probably starting with major transportation hubs and then to smaller places like Maine.

    While other parts of the world return to normal, we’re all likely to be living with the human and economic toll of the pandemic until someone comes up with a vaccine. Absent federal leadership, we’ve shown ourselves too divided to save ourselves.

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    “The protesters had to deescalate the police”: Demonstrators are the ones defusing violence at protests
    Protesters describe the excessive force they’ve seen police use in cities across the country.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/6/12/21279619/protesters-police-violence-philadelphia-los-angeles-washington-dc

    The police response to protests across the country has been strikingly similar.

    In Philadelphia, police cornered peaceful protesters on the side of a highway and tear-gassed them en masse. In Portland, Oregon, law enforcement used what’s known as a sound cannon — or a Long Range Acoustic Device — to send a piercing signal through a crowd of demonstrators. And in Washington, DC, National Guard officers flew military helicopters over protesters on the ground, an intimidation tactic aimed at getting them to leave.

    At demonstration after demonstration, officers have met peaceful protesters, who are condemning the police killing of George Floyd, and police violence more broadly, with disproportionate and brutal force, often for no reason but to “disperse” a crowd. The approach has only illustrated how quick police can be to use violent tactics, particularly against black individuals.

    The irony of this dynamic isn’t lost on protesters: By responding with brutality in demonstrations about police brutality, police are effectively helping activists make their point.

    “The continuity across these spaces, the cruelty, the egregious militarized force, it forces you to come to the conclusion that this is systemic,” says Krystal Strong, 35, a member of Black Lives Matter in Philadelphia, who recalled watching a young black man get rammed with a police bike at a recent demonstration. “It’s not just Minneapolis. It’s not just Chicago or LA.”

    Vox spoke with 10 protesters in seven cities — and nearly all of them had either directly witnessed or been subject to police violence while participating in marches and rallies in recent weeks.

    “It’s affirmed that policing is brutal,” says Melina Abdullah, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles, of her experience. “If I were the police, strategically I would say at a police brutality march, don’t be brutal. It’s just not smart; it’s bad optics.”

    Police have escalated the violence at protests

    The protesters who spoke with Vox all had a common experience: Regardless of the demonstration they attended — whether it was a peaceful march or a rally that included graffiti and property damage — the police were the ones who escalated the situation. And across the board, that response was seen as entirely disproportionate to the activity that may have prompted it.

    During a peaceful protest in Toledo, Ohio, 29-year-old attorney Matthew Ahn said he saw police shooting wooden bullets directly at people, severely injuring at least two individuals. “One of the projectiles hit someone directly in the foot and broke multiple bones in his foot,” he said. “There were several puddles of blood left where he was.” Throughout a day of demonstrations, Ahn — who attended the protests in a personal, not professional, capacity — says police shot pepper balls, rubber bullets, or wooden bullets at protesters seven different times.

    In Los Angeles, Abdullah described watching a state highway patrol car plow into a crowd of protesters and knock a man out in the process. “We didn’t know he was alive at the moment,” she says. “He was unconscious.”

    And in Washington, DC, Allison Lane, a 34-year-old podcaster and bartender, recalled being among more than 100 protesters who were “kettled” by police into a residential neighborhood.

    Last week, roughly 70 protesters, including Lane, were taken in by a resident named Rahul Dubey, who housed them for an entire night as police waited outside to arrest people for curfew violations. “Police officers were pepper-spraying wildly at people who were trying to get inside the home,” she said. “The scene inside … is people pouring milk into their eyes, using eyewash bottles.”

    These incidents are among hundreds that have occurred in the past few weeks as thousands have taken to the streets to protest the police killings of black people, following Floyd’s death. A Twitter thread that’s since gone viral includes more than 200 video clips that capture police tear-gassing, shoving, and beating protesters with batons — and those are simply the offenses that have been taped.

    Such acts of police violence have contributed to a number of injuries — rubber bullets have blinded multiple individuals, while beatings have resulted in broken bones — and one death. In Louisville, Kentucky, where officers still haven’t been charged in the shooting death of Breonna Taylor, police shot and killed David McAtee near his business when he was out past curfew in early June.

    “The protesters had to deescalate the police”

    Demonstrators emphasize that they now go into marches expecting violence because of how law enforcement has behaved up to this point.

    “I didn’t expect anything but violence — that’s all we’re thinking about,” said Lane.

    Given the precedent for police behavior, protesters have been told to prepare and steel themselves for such treatment. Organizers encourage protesters to inform friends and family about where they are and set up a phone tree of emergency contacts. Additionally, demonstrators have been urged to dress in long-sleeved shirts and pants and to bring goggles in case tear gas or pepper spray is used.

    Multiple organizers told Vox they try to protest with medical support directly on hand, to deal with both the exhaustion that protesters may experience and potential injuries that could result from police activity. “We now only do marches with medics present, and that’s been very helpful,” Abdullah, the Los Angeles BLM organizer, told Vox. As the New York Times reported, there’s been a surge of medical professionals and volunteers getting training to serve as “street medics” following the police violence at many demonstrations.

    There have been some changes in how police have responded since the start of the protests more than two weeks ago. As cities have lifted curfews, and demonstrations have fluctuated in size, the police reaction has become less confrontational, in some instances. Protesters have speculated that this shift was due to the poor optics police had encountered, particularly when it came to high-profile incidents like the tear-gassing of peaceful demonstrators in front of the White House.

    At the marches where law enforcement has taken a more aggressive approach, the escalation by police often came with little warning, protesters say. It can be chaotic, frightening, and overwhelming.

    “There were many moments where we grabbed each other, where we pulled each other to safety. It’s a moment-to-moment reevaluation of the situation,” says Strong.

    In some instances, protesters have called on white allies to put “white bodies to the front” when it appears that police are advancing on a crowd, because it’s less likely law enforcement will use fatal force on white activists. “I don’t think I was ready for how scared I felt,” said Steven, 25, a white protester in Washington, DC, who was tear-gassed and shoved by police multiple times on June 1.

    Ultimately, many protesters note that they’ve been forced to deescalate police rather than the other way around — and they warn that activists should be ready to do just that. During a demonstration outside Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s house on June 2, for example, Abdullah says protesters were the ones who actually defused the tension.

    “The protesters had to deescalate the police,” she said. “The protesters who were in front of the police began to just sit down to create almost a human fencing around the rest of us to prevent the police [from] being able to run in.”

    The actions protesters have witnessed have further confirmed their views of police

    For many protesters, the treatment they’ve witnessed only reaffirms the views they held about police.

    “For them to be so brutal and repressive and terrible at these marches just affirms to me that policing in this country can’t continue to exist in its current form. You can’t tinker around the edges; it’s in the DNA,” says Abdullah.

    Activists say the protests have strengthened their resolve to hold police accountable and to push for policy changes that fundamentally upend the current system. A major rallying cry at many of these protests has been a call not simply to reform the police but to defund the institution. The justification for this effort is straightforward: States and cities can reduce funding for the police and instead transfer that money to social services programs like food aid and education — to better address the core causes of both inequities and crime.

    In Los Angeles, activists have urged officials to consider what they’re calling the “people’s budget,” which would reduce the allocation for law enforcement entities from roughly 54 percent of the city’s general fund budget to 6 percent.

    The role that the protests have played in further highlighting police abuses has parallels in history: Nonviolent protest as a means to raise awareness of state violence was also a key goal of civil rights protests led by Martin Luther King Jr. and demonstrations against British rule by Mahatma Gandhi in India.

    During the protests in the 1960s, the marches drew attention to police violence — as did the horrific treatment of protesters by police. “Aggressive dispersion tactics, such as police dogs and fire hoses, against individuals in peaceful protests and sit-ins, were the most widely publicized examples of police brutality in that era,” Katie Nodjimbadem writes for Smithsonian Magazine.

    “Even back in the 1960s, when Dr. King was marching, part of the reason for the march was to expose the brutality,” Abdullah emphasizes.

    There are legal actions protesters can take to hold police accountable

    There is legal recourse for protesters who have suffered injuries at the hands of police, but there have historically been some pretty big obstacles to getting accountability.

    Such barriers are largely due to the protections that police have in the case of civil lawsuits, because of a legal doctrine known as qualified immunity: In order to even go to trial with an allegation of police misconduct, an individual needs to show not only that it was a violation of their civil rights, but also that there’s precedent for that same action being considered unlawful in prior cases.

    This shield has enabled police officers to avoid liability on many acts of misconduct in the past, including shootings, theft, and property damage.

    Still, experts tell Vox that protesters have plenty of grounds to pursue legal action — and already, there have been multiple cases in the past month where the officer involved faces criminal charges.

    “Police officers have the right to use force in a number of situations, but they never have the right to use excessive force or brutality. That is always illegal,” says University of Chicago law professor Craig Futterman, who founded the Civil Rights and Police Accountability Project.

    Protesters have three avenues they can take, Futterman notes: They can file a civil lawsuit against a specific officer for violating their constitutional rights, they can register a complaint with the city or police station involved, or they can report the incident to a district attorney, who could then file a criminal lawsuit.

    In recent weeks, there have been at least two cases where such legal recourse has been effective: In New York City, the district attorney has charged a police officer with assault for shoving a protester during a demonstration in Brooklyn, and in Buffalo, New York, the district attorney has charged two police officers, who were filmed pushing an elderly man to the ground, with assault. The ACLU and Black Lives Matter are among those working with protesters to advance legal actions on this front.

    But while the outcome of a lawsuit could help increase police accountability, it doesn’t do much in the near term for protesters fielding medical bills and injuries.

    “In terms of compensation from the city or the police department, the only way would be to file a lawsuit, which would take time,” University of Memphis law professor Steven Mulroy tells Vox. He notes that legal advocates could put pressure on police departments to more quickly cover these costs without going to court. “A lawyer could send a demand letter — if you provide this amount to defray the medical expenses, we’ll hold off on pursuing a lawsuit,” he says.

    Such accountability, while important, isn’t enough to fix the systemic nature of these abuses, though. To do that, protesters emphasize that the dem

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    After 15 stunning days of anti-racist protests … what happens next?
    Can the phenomenal response to the police killing of George Floyd be channeled to secure lasting political change?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/10/george-floyd-protests-what-happens-next

    The New Yorker writer Jelani Cobb captured best the sense of wonder at what is happening on the streets of America. He posted a tweet from Mitt Romney, the Republican senator from Utah, which showed the former presidential candidate marching alongside demonstrators under the banner Black Lives Matter.

    “Ladies and gentleman,” Cobb remarked. “This is what you call uncharted territory.”

    Fifteen days and nights into this nationwide conflagration, the protests following the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis are truly navigating the unknown.

    Enormous crowds, overwhelmingly peaceful and highly diverse, have erupted in cities across the country; a movement against police brutality has been met with police brutality; the US president has responded with one of the most memorable – and violent – photo ops of the modern era.

    “The popular reaction to the gruesome Floyd murder has been astonishing in its national scope, fervent commitment and interracial solidarity,” observed the philosopher and social critic Noam Chomsky. “The malignancy that infects the White House has been exposed in all its ugliness.”

    But as the demonstrations tear through their third week, with no apparent loss of momentum, the little voice that inevitably arises with all such public outbursts begins to be heard. As it grows louder, the question it poses intensifies: what happens next?

    Where does all the energy unleashed by the protests go? What happens to “Defund the police” when the chanting fades? When the day comes – as presumably, eventually, it must – what will be left on the empty streets to show for it?

    “Marches are a tactic,” Chomsky told the Guardian. “Not much has emerged about strategy, or even specific articulated goals, beyond major reform of police practices and responsibilities.”

    A potential cautionary tale for the present-day protests is offered by Occupy Wall Street. Like the current maelstrom, those protests burst on to the public stage in September 2011 quite unexpectedly, with a thousand or so people cramming themselves into New York City’s Zuccotti Park under the rubric: “We are the 99%.”

    Also in an echo of today, the Occupy protesters were met with violent police shutdowns leading to hundreds of arrests. The park was finally brutally cleared two months later.

    Nobody could doubt the success of Occupy in changing the nature of the national political and social debate. It put concepts of income inequality, of the “1%”, firmly and permanently on the map.

    But once the protest had been broken up, its resolutely anti-hierarchical nature, combined with the distrust of many of its activists towards institutions and infrastructure, meant that it had nowhere else to go. It dissipated into the downtown Manhattan air.

    “Occupy was also a tactic, not a strategy, and one that could not continue,” Chomsky said. “It had an impact: focusing on extreme inequality that is poisoning the society under the neoliberal regime. But from that point on other forms of activism have to take over, and to some extent have.”

    Nelini Stamp, the director of strategy for the Working Families party, is well-placed to comment on the “what next?” conundrum, having been deeply involved in Occupy and now being immersed as an organizer of the George Floyd protests in New York. Though she agrees that Occupy didn’t directly change America – income inequality in the US has increased steadily every year since 2011 – it did spawn a number of powerful campaigns to long-term effect.

    She points to the fight for a higher minimum wage and union representation for fast-food workers. She also credits Occupy with giving Vermont’s democratic socialist senator Bernie Sanders the opening through which he burst on to the stage as a presidential candidate – twice.

    “We created the space so that Bernie could do his run in 2016 and 2020, and for Elizabeth Warren running for president with her economic populist message.”

    Stamp disagrees with Chomsky that the current wave of protests has failed to articulate a specific way forward. “I think the demands have been fairly clear: defunding police, reimagining public safety, and we are slowly winning.”

    Certainly, today’s protesters can point to the first blossoming of change on a local level. The city council in Minneapolis, where the 46-year-old African American was killed by police on 25 May, has vowed to disband the police department and start over.

    New York City lawmakers have moved to ban the use of chokeholds of the sort that killed Eric Garner. The Portland police chief is resigning amid calls for “bold reform”, and on a national level, Democrats who control the House of Representatives have unveiled the most ambitious plan for law enforcement reform in years.

    In perhaps the most aesthetically pleasing signal of change, a street within spitting distance of Donald Trump in the White House has been renamed “Black Lives Matter Plaza”.

    In the grand scheme of things, these individual victories may amount to no more than pointillist dots on the vast canvas of America’s woes. But to the protesters they are vital oxygen.

    “To maintain activism on the streets you need little successes,” said Dana R Fisher, a professor of sociology specializing in protest movements at the University of Maryland. “Think about the civil rights movement – it was a long, arduous, painful process to get the black vote, but it was sustained by these little successes along the way.”

    Fisher believes that the huge sweep of protests in more than 750 cities and towns all across America holds out a golden opportunity for dramatic change to be achieved through the ballot box in November. Her recent book, American Resistance, tracked the impact of the 2017 Women’s March held the day after Trump’s inauguration.

    Studying the data, she found that much of the energy released on that day – the largest day of protest in American history – was channeled back into local communities and their congressional races. The result was that Democrats took back the House in 2018 in the so-called “Blue Wave”.

    She sees a repeat of that potential today. “We are seeing amazing opportunities for people to channel what’s going on in the streets into political activism, especially with such a crucial election looming.”

    The question remains, though, is there a need for some structured vehicle that could absorb the positive radiation of the current protests without which the movement risks fragmenting and dissipating just like Occupy? Fisher thinks there is.

    “I’m sure it will be unpopular to say this, but I think there is a need for some professionalized organizational ecosystem to support this movement. There is a void forming, and we need to fill it.”

    Noam Chomsky also sees a need for greater strategic direction. He wonders whether popular movements will emerge “that seek to deal with the brutal legacy of 400 years of vicious racism, that extends far beyond police violence”.

    Nelini Stamp is resolutely optimistic. She reminds us that Black Lives Matter was founded in 2013, took off the following year during the Ferguson, Missouri, protests over the police killing of Michael Brown, and has been beavering away at effecting change ever since.

    “There has been a movement for black lives over the past six years that has never stopped. We have more infrastructure now for people to land and go places than we did then – we’ve built more muscle.”

    Is she not anxious that the euphoria of the current protests could fade over time into disappointment?

    “I mean, I’m always anxious about that,” she said. “But I’ve never seen a multiracial uprising in my life like we’re seeing right now, and for all the anxiety I have every morning about what happens next, that gives me hope.”

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    Looks like Portland, Maine is out of control.

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    Christian Neal MilNeil@c_milneil
    Just an update – I’m OK, the police blustered and left, and I’ve got an attorney.

    Thanks for everyone’s support. I’m a white guy, so please, let’s remember that most incidents of police harassment don’t get this kind of attention.

    City of Portland@CityPortland
    Officers were there to serve him with a court summons for criminal mischief for damaged city property via graffiti. Milneil refused service. Case is being submitted to DA’s office, but @PolicePortland is hopeful he’ll contact them to accept service prior to DA review. #

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    Nathan Bernard@nathanTbernard
    Police are at this journalist’s house right now in Portland, Maine threatening to arrest him for tweeting about cops. Not good

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    This was posted by a friend on Facebook, who also lives in Portland Maine.

    Defunding the military and police means shifting resources not leaving social problems unaddressed. Here’s a local example: Portland schools have police officers assigned to them. At a forum I went to a couple of months ago on the question of whether to remove ‘public safety officers’ from those schools, the police officer on the panel (who serves in that capacity) said that sometimes kids get violent or are out of control on drugs and having a hand cuff carrying armed responder on site allows for the situation to be safely resolved. A social work grad student in the audience pointed out that, in her work in the homeless shelter she too encountered violence sometimes exacerbated by alcohol, drugs, or mental illness – and she too is trained to deal with it. And does so without handcuffs and a gun. Shifting some police resources to social workers and nurses and after school programs and housing and job creation would reduce the need for police in the first place. That is what ‘defunding’ looks like. We don’t have to go fully to disbanding the force entirely. But let’s make them as unnecessary as possible.

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    Wendy Chapkis, from Facebook

    What have these protests accomplished so far?

    5/26 -4 officers fired for murdering George Floyd
    5/28 Univ of Minn cancels contract with police
    5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestors
    5/28 ATU Local 1005 refuses to bring police officers to protests, or to transport arrested protesters
    5/29 Activists commandeer hotel to provide shelter to homeless
    5/29 Officer Chauvin who killed Floyd arrested
    5/29 Louisville Mayor suspends “no-knock” warrants in response to polices 3/12
    5/30 US Embassies across Africa condemn police murder of Floyd
    5/30 MN AG Ellison takes over prosecution of the murdering officer
    5/30 TWU Local 100 bus operators refuse to transport arrests protestors
    5/31 2 abusive officers fired for pulling a couple out of car and tasing them
    6/1 Minn public schools end contract with Minneapolis police department
    6/1 Confederate Monument removed – Birmingham, AL
    6/1 CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DA’s from accepting police union money
    6/1 Tulsa Mayor Bynum agrees to not renew Live PD contract
    6/1 Louisville police chief fired after shooting of David Mcatee at BBQ joint
    6/1 Dems and reps begin push to shut down a Pentagon program that transfers military weaponry to local law enforcement departments – nationwide
    6/2 Minn AFL-CIO calls for the resignation of Bob Kroll, the president of the Minneapolis police union (Bob Kroll is a vocal white supremacist)
    6/2 ATU Local 85 announces refusal to transport police officers or arrest protestors
    6/2 Racist Ex-Mayor Rizzo statue removed
    6/2 6 abusive officers charged for violence against residents and protestors – Atlanta, GA
    6/2 Confederate soldier statue removed – Alexandria, VA
    6/2 Civil Rights investigation of Minn Police Dept launched
    6/2 Resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct announced by San Fran DA Boudin and Supervisor Walton
    6/2 Survey indicating 64% of polled sympathetic to protestors, and 47% disapprove of police handling + 54% think burning down of precinct fully or partially justified
    6/2 NJ AG announces policing reforms
    6/2 Minn City Council members publicly call for disbanding the police and replace safety and outreach capacity
    6/3 Officer fired for tweets promoting violence against protestors – Denver, Co
    6/3 Minn Institute of Art, First Avenue, Walker Art Center end use of MPD for events
    6/3 Officer Chauvin charged and taken into custody
    6/3 Officer Chauvin charges upgraded to 2nd Murder, and remaining 3 officers also charged and taken into custody
    6/3 VA Gov announces removal of Robert E Lee statue
    6/3 Richmond VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establish “Marcus” alert for folks experiencing mental health crisis, establish independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implement racial equity study
    6/3 County commissioners deny proposal for $23 million expansion of Fulton County jail
    6/3 Minn Parks and Rec cut ties with the Minn Police Dep.
    6/3 US Army tells soldiers to disobey any orders to attack peaceful protestors – nationwide
    6/3 LA Announces $100-150 million cut from LAPD budget, Reinvested into communities, moratorium on gang database, sharper discipline against abusive cops, in effect immediately
    6/3 Seattle changes mind and withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department
    6/4 Breonna Taylor case reopened?
    6/4 Portland schools superintendent ‘discontinues’ presence of armed police officers in schools
    6/4 MBTA (Metro Boston) board orders that buses won’t transport police to protests, or protestors to police
    6/4 King County Labor Federation issue ultimatum to police unions, to admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed
    6/5 Minn agrees to ban all chokeholds
    6/5 DC Mayor renames street outside the white house Black Lives Matter Plaza
    6/5 US Marine Corp orders Confederate flag ban including on bumper stickers, and t-shirts
    6/5 NFL Publicly condemns racism
    6/7 A veto-proof majority of the Minneapolis City Council pledge to dismantle the city’s Police Department.

    And this doesn’t even mention 10,000,000’s of people uniting to march across the globe, the 1000’s of businesses, artists, educators and professionals backing this, how many racists are losing their privileges for their demonstrations of hatred, and how many people are contributing to Black businesses and causes.

    All in less than 2 weeks.

    Never ever ever underestimate the power of your voice, and your right to peacefully assemble and protest!
    Love & Justice will prevail.

    #115939
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    alternet:https://www.alternet.org/2015/01/real-reason-police-unions-enable-worst-cop-abuses/

    The Real Reason Police Unions Enable the Worst Cop Abuses
    Written by Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet January 8, 2015

    …Most police unions were created in the early 1970s, after a presidential commission issued a detailed report that in part noted that the South’s police crackdowns on civil rights protesters were by departments that were little more than political patronage shops. From an employment law perspective, police were “at-will” hires, meaning they could be hired and fired any time by their bosses. The unions were created to professionalize departments, including instituting collective bargaining agreements with discipline procedures. Nationally, the fine print on these procedures varies, but in most cases even the worst cops are afforded due process rights, including binding arbitration or relying on a third party to resolve disputes, as the last stage in fighting employment decisions like getting fired.

    A half-century ago, these procedures were seen as the cure for the most racist or corrupt police agencies. But today, these clauses, especially binding arbitration, are increasingly seen as problematic because they cannot be overturned even by elected officials, police chiefs, civilian police review boards, or even federal judges who are overseeing reforms in plagued departments under Justice Department settlements.

    The list of bad cops who have been fired for violent behavior but won their jobs back—with back pay as if nothing happened—after binding arbitration is striking. Nationally, arbitration modifies or reverses about two-thirds of disciplinary decisions, labor lawyers say. In some cases, police were fired for nonviolent offenses and returned to work. But there are many examples of violent cops who are back at work because police unions fought for them, and an arbitrator ruled in their favor.

    Recent examples include a Washington state officer who was fired for excessive Taser use and filing false reports; a Philadelphia lieutenant fired for punching a woman in the face at a parade and arresting her after mistakenly believing she threw beer on him; a Rhode Island officer who followed two women home in uniform and exposed himself; a Miami officer who shot and killed an unarmed man sitting in a car; an Oakland officer who threw a stun grenade into a crowd that was trying to help a protester who had been shot by police; and more. In some of these cases, such as Philadelphia and Oakland, the cops’ actions were videotaped, and the tapes are very disturbing.

    Last month in Cleveland, a policeman who got into a bar fight and lost his gun and badge, won his job back. A local judge denied the city’s appeal after an arbitrator ruled in his favor. Cleveland.com reported the Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association had argued during that arbitration proceeding that other Cleveland police officers had done much worse and kept their jobs to justify reversing his firing.

    “The officers cited in the other cases have committed assaults, domestic violence, theft, felony offenses, untruthfulness, and other violent crimes, and have been allowed to keep their jobs with the city,” Cleveland PBA argued, Cleveland.com reported.

    “Specifically, CPPA president Jeffrey Follmer referred to separate cases in which:
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    One officer pulled his wife put of her car and fired eight shots into it because he did not want her to get the car in a divorce settlement;
    Another got drunk and threatened his girlfriend with a shotgun;
    Another officer shot his gun ‘in a threatening manner’ while intoxicated;
    An officer pulled his gun during a drunken wedding fight;
    A female officer smeared animal feces on her own apartment walls during rent dispute, and told her landlord to pick up her keys at the department’s gun range;
    Another officer fled the scene of an accident after he hit a man on a motorcycle.”

    The complaints about how union-backed arbitration protects bad cops do not just come from activists protesting excessive force. Federal judges and police chiefs who are trying to change the culture inside departments have criticized this aspect of police unions.

    “Just like any failure to impose appropriate discipline by the chief or city administrator, any reversal of appropriate discipline at arbitration undermines the very objectives [of the federal consent decree requiring reforms],” U.S. District Court Judge Thelton Henderson wrote last August, after the Oakland police officer who was videotaped tossing a gas grenade into a crowd of Occupy protesters was reinstated.

    Washington, DC Police Chief Kathy Lanier similarly bemoaned how too much power has shifted to the binding arbitration process. Last February, she noted a ruling that ended a six-year contract dispute—which raised salaries and benefits but the DC union chief still called “disrespectful”—also rejected the city’s effort to rein in arbitration.

    “It is unsuprising that an arbitrator would reject common-sense limitations on an arbitrator’s authority designed to ensure that bad cops stay fired, and instead choose the union’s proposal to expand the scope of disciplinary cases that are subject to arbitration,” her statement said. “This decision just further supports my recent testimony before the [DC City] Council that common-sense legislative reform of arbitrators’ authority is desperately needed to ensure that officers who are not fit to serve are not ordered back into the communities by unaccountable arbitrators.”

    There are numerous other examples of police unions lobbying to protect their officers from reform efforts. Last summer, the police union in Miami-Dade County, Florida, tried to block the mayor’s office’s plan to install body cameras, filing a grievance saying it interfered with police work. California’s prison guards union, the Correctional Peace Officers Association, is known for aggressively lobbying to build more prisons, fighting sentencing reform and bankrolling law-and-order candidates, Jacobin.com reported.

    Back to New York

    There’s no denying that the police union revolt in New York City is coming to a head. On December 30, Gov. Cuomo vetoed a bill drafted by the Rikers Island guard union that would have moved police brutality prosecutions from the Bronx to Queens, where the district attorney is seen as friendlier to the guards. Another union-drafted bill awaiting Cuomo’s signature or veto would expand disciplinary issues dealt with under arbitration. Last July, the New York Civil Liberties Union wrote to Cuomo urging a veto, saying that if it became law it “would seriously curtail the authority of local government officials to take disciplinary action, including removal or suspension, when a police officer commits misconduct.”

    The NYCLU is making the same point DC’s Chief Lanier made when criticizing the fine print in a contract settlement that did not reel in arbitration’s ability to protect bad cops. Indeed, after top NYPD managers reassigned the officer involved in Eric Garner’s death, Patrick Lynch, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association union chief, slammed that reassigment as an unfair political attack on a cop.

    “It is imperative that our elected officials, community leaders and the citizens of our city are supportive of police officers who do this difficult job every day if we are to expect them to continue putting themselves in harm’s way to keep the city safe,” he said.

    Lynch seems tone-deaf in his unflinching defense of an officer who unnecessarily killed an unarmed man. In his world, the only victims are cops who don’t get everything their way. Yet stepping back from this police union rebellion, it’s revealing to note that Lynch’s diatribes seem cut from a decades-old script written by police union leaders who did not get their way.

    In 1992, Donald Murray, the Boston Police Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association leader, called the creation of a community appeals board to discipline police in that city, “the ruination of the Boston Police Department… I feel like I’ve been raped and sodomized.” That same year in New York, thousands of off-duty cops staged unruly protests when then-mayor David Dinkins proposed creating a civilian review board.

    There was similar overheated rhetoric in Portland, Oregon, before the Department of Justice sued and then imposed a settlement over how police were using excessive force against the city’s mentally ill, said Aitchison, the police labor lawyer. Portland’s union eventually toned down its rhetoric and agreed to substantial changes including a police monitor, he said. Similarly, Aitchison said the Los Angeles Police Department, under several mayors and police chiefs—including Bill Bratton who now has that job in New York—is not the same department that behaved like an occupying army a decade ago.

    “It can happen if anyone is willing to sit down and really talk,” he said, suggesting that Gov. Cuomo, Mayor de Blasio, Bill Bratton, Patrick Lynch, other union heads, and police critics have a lot to gain by addressing the large issues—settling the NYPD contract, instituting policing and disciplinary reforms—as other cities have done.

    It will be revealing to see what unfolds in New York in coming weeks, and observe whether police unions will stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution. But for now, the war of words continues.

    #115511
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    I’m not interested in getting a statistical breakdown of who did what, for what reason.

    There could be leftists, white nationalists, and selfish chaos-lovers in any kind of blend, and the bottom line is this:

    Our police departments need reform, and the police must be held accountable for their actions.

    The rest of it is ideological tug-of-war.

    Reform won’t come tonight. Right now the anarchists must be stopped. And don’t fool yourself this has nothing at all to do with the death of Floyd. The genuine “protests” have ended. It’s now about hoodlums and thugs. Simple. If you think otherwise your hiding behind an agenda. And don’t think I don’t believe there is police reform desperately needed or I don’t believe that the police must be held accountable. But this-what your watching tonight-has zilch to do with that.

    W–that is quite simply not true. Like saying 2 plus 2 = 7 not true. The protests have NOT stopped. They’re everywhere and all over twitter.

    The idea that it’s all thugs etc. is you buying the tv narrative I warned about.

    I know people who are planning the protests in Portland. I am in contact with people who are in the protests in LA. It goes on and on beyond that.

    There are protests, lots of them, and they’re huge and ongoing. It’s all over the country.

    They aren’t showing all of it are they.

    The fear narrative you were worried about? You’re buying into it. But it is FAR from the whole story. The thugs haven’t taken over. Your fear of it being thugs has taken over.

    I cannot imagine that the ones who want civil disobedience are ONLY white nationalists and I’m sure there are far left radicals amongst these people as well with the same goals in mind.

    Of course you can’t imagine otherwise and of course you’re sure of that. Cause–this is about perceptions.

    But it;s also a fact in the USA: our history is, blaming left radicals for violence in the USA has happened a LOT more than actual violence by left radicals. This is an old old story.

    I’m watching most of what’s happening in So Cal. There are no “protests” going on and that is confirmed by not only what is being shown but what the mayors of L.A., Beverly Hills, etc. are stating. It is simply looting, throwing bricks, concrete, bottles of water, fireworks, at police and setting on fire stores, cars (not just police vehicles), etc. There were peaceful protests for a good part of the day. But that all changed when those people left and the evening approached. Now it’s just thuggery. Furthermore I have heard the same from the mayors of the involved cities in Georgia, Chicago, and especially New York. Yes, there too the protests were peaceful during the day. Not now-different crowds.

    #115500
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    I’m not interested in getting a statistical breakdown of who did what, for what reason.

    There could be leftists, white nationalists, and selfish chaos-lovers in any kind of blend, and the bottom line is this:

    Our police departments need reform, and the police must be held accountable for their actions.

    The rest of it is ideological tug-of-war.

    Reform won’t come tonight. Right now the anarchists must be stopped. And don’t fool yourself this has nothing at all to do with the death of Floyd. The genuine “protests” have ended. It’s now about hoodlums and thugs. Simple. If you think otherwise your hiding behind an agenda. And don’t think I don’t believe there is police reform desperately needed or I don’t believe that the police must be held accountable. But this-what your watching tonight-has zilch to do with that.

    W–that is quite simply not true. Like saying 2 plus 2 = 7 not true. The protests have NOT stopped. They’re everywhere and all over twitter.

    The idea that it’s all thugs etc. is you buying the tv narrative I warned about.

    I know people who are planning the protests in Portland. I am in contact with people who are in the protests in LA. It goes on and on beyond that.

    There are protests, lots of them, and they’re huge and ongoing. It’s all over the country.

    They aren’t showing all of it are they.

    The fear narrative you were worried about? You’re buying into it. But it is FAR from the whole story. The thugs haven’t taken over. Your fear of it being thugs has taken over.

    I cannot imagine that the ones who want civil disobedience are ONLY white nationalists and I’m sure there are far left radicals amongst these people as well with the same goals in mind.

    Of course you can’t imagine otherwise and of course you’re sure of that. Cause–this is about perceptions.

    But it;s also a fact in the USA: our history is, blaming left radicals for violence in the USA has happened a LOT more than actual violence by left radicals. This is an old old story.

    #114099

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    My 2020 250 player Big Board

    50. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    65. Troy Pride – CB – Notre Dame – 5′-11″ 193 lbs. – Under-rated athletically, has good speed and can work in man and zone coverages. A perfect #2 CB.

    67. Bryce Hall – CB – Virginia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Long, physical and smart. Always taking good angles and is in the proper position. Not the world’s best athlete. he will outwork you. Zone CB.

    68. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    69. Jacob Eason – QB – Washington – 6′-6″ 231 lbs. – Biggest arm in the class, but is a statue and panics a little too easily for my taste.

    71. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    72. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    74. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    77. Jake Fromm – QB – Georgia – 6′-2″ 219 lbs. – Smartest QB in the draft, has a noodle for an arm and is a little on the small side.

    80. Alohi Gilman – S – Notre Dame – 5′-10″ 201 lbs. – A zone safety that is an absolute hammer coming forward. Another versatile player that can do a little of everything.

    81. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    82. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    84. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    86. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    87. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.- Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    88. K’Von Wallace – S – Clemson – 5′-11″ 206 lbs. – Physical, will stick his face in the fan and has some nice ball production. Not overly athletic or fast, but versatile.

    90. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    91. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    92. Antoine Brooks Jr. – S – Maryland – 5′-11″ 220 lbs. – Here is that big nickel LBer or third safety I have been talking about for the last year or so. best working around the box in sub packages. Physical, emotional and not extremely rangy.

    94. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    98. Steven Montez – QB – Colorado – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Big arm, all the tools, has just never put it all together.

    99. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    100. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    101. Khalid Kareem – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 268 lbs. – Long and strong, excellent against the run, not much juice as a pass rusher. A bit stiff. 43 end only.

    103. Rashard Lawrence – IDL – LSU – 6′-2″ – 308 lbs. – What you would expect in an LSU DL, tough, strong and excellent against the run. Doesn’t offer much in the way of a pass rush.

    106. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    107. Hunter Bryant – TE – Washington – 6′-2″ 248 lbs. – Smooth moving, explosive pass catcher. Offers nothing in the way of blocking and his size won’t scare anyone.

    108. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    110. Quartney Davis – WR – Texas A&M – 6′-1″ 201 lbs. – A skilled route runner with excellent footwork. Not slow, but not exactly a deep threat. hands are spotty. .

    113. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    114. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    115. Collin Johnson – WR – Texas – 6′-6″ 222 lbs. – Touted as the next Randy Moss, it didn’t happen, but he has good speed, wins with his size and is a contested catch, 50-50 ball machine. Size mismatch.

    118. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    119. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    120. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    121. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    124. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    125. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    126. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    130. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    131. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    132. Shane Lemieux – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 310 lbs. – mauler, not an athlete. Choppy footwork. Works well in a man scheme.

    133. Nick Coe – Edge – Auburn – 6′-5″ 280 lbs. – Big, long and strong. Played from 2 and 3 point at Auburn. He is going to end up being a 34 End in the NFL. I question his passion for football.

    134. Jared Pinkney – Vanderbilt – 6′-4″ 257 lbs. – Great hands, good athlete, good enough blocker to play inline. Needs to cleanup route running. Not a monster after the catch.

    136. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    137. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    138. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    139. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    141. Solomon Kindley – IOL – Georgia – 6′-3″ 337 lbs. – Another mammoth Georgia lineman. A OG with beastly power that loves to use it. Again, needs a lot of technique work. His hand usage is a mess.

    142. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    145. K.J. Hill – WR – Ohio State – 6′-0″ 196 lbs. – A good route runner with decent ability in the open field. Not a burner, but not a slug either.

    146. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    147. Jack Driscoll – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 306 lbs. – A smaller RT with a good athletic profile. In other words. Perfect for a zone scheme only. Needs to add power and some technique work.

    148. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    150. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    151. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    153. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    154. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    155. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    156. Isaiah Hodgins – WR – Oregon State – 6′-4″ 210 lbs. – A good route runner for a man his size, good catch radius. Good hands. Not a deep threat.

    157. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    158. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    159. Anthony Gordan – QB – Washington State – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – Tough leader with an OK arm. Air Raid muddies the water, but he can manage a football team.

    162. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    163. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    164. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    165. Raequan Williams – IDL – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – Not a great athlete, but is strong, can stack and hold his ground and when he does get in the backfield, he finishes well. Needs to get more consistent on effort.

    166. Terence Steele – OT – Texas Tech – 6′-6″ 312 lbs. – Great hands and a powerful upper body, needs some sand in his pants. More of a man blocking guy, as he lacks movement skills for zone.

    167. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    168. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    171. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    172. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    173. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    174. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    175. James Morgan – QB – FIU – 6′-4″ 229 lbs. – A toolsy gunslinger with no fear. Not sure he has the tools above the neck to be a pro QB.

    176. John Simpson – IOL – Clemson – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A power blocker that can get over-extended at times, but will run you over. Lacks horizontal movement ability. Man power scheme fit.

    177. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    178. Harrison Hand – CB – Temple – 5′-11″ 197 lbs. – Smart, tough and has some ballhawk to him. Not the quickest CB. Zone CB

    179. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    180. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    181. Michael Onwenu – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 344 lbs. – An absolute tank in the trenches. Surprisingly decent footwork. Great power. Not a great mover. Man scheme.

    182. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    183. Binjimen Victor – WR – Ohio State – 6′-4″ 198 lbs. – Another big catch radius guy with nice hands. Not a deep threat, but is kinda dangerous in the open field.

    184. Carter Coughlin – Edge – Minnesota – 6′-3″ 236 lbs. – an undersized 34 edge rusher with some burst and fluid movement skills. Cannot match power with anyone, and his run defending suffers from that.

    185. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    186. Jonathan Garvin – Edge – Miami – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – 43 DE that can set a strong edge and keep everything inside. Not a ton of burst, and average athletically. Decent pass rush on physical traits alone.

    187. Scott Frantz – OT – Kansas State – 6′-5″ 300 lbs. – Mauler strength and a maulers mentality. Not a great athlete and needs to add weight.

    188. – Patrick Taylor Jr. – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – big, powerful and hard to bring down. Not great feet and not very imaginative with the ball. Short yardage back IMO.

    189. Khalil Davis – IDL – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 308 lbs. – Not real long, but a quick first step and a good motor is where he wins. Not a great run defender due to his lack of length.

    190. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    191. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    192. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    193. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    194. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    195. Cheyenne O’Grady – TE – Arkansas – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – A natural pass catcher with good route running. A willing blocker, although it isn’t a strength. Tough to bring down. His biggest issue is he was dismissed from the team for saying he was going to quit after the Bama game.

    196. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    198. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    200. Sewo Olonilua – RB – TCU – 6′-3″ 232 lbs. – Another short yardage specialist. Not fast, quick or nimble. He is a load to bring down and will wear you out.

    201. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    202. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    203. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    204. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    205. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    206. Trajan Bandy – CB – Miami – 5′-8″ 180 lbs. – Smooth footed DB that moves well in space and has OK speed. Lack of size and strength is an issue.

    207. Jauan Jennings – WR – Tennessee – 6′-3″ 215 lbs. – A runaway beer truck in the open field. Tough to bring down. Slow play speed and ran a 4.74 so that matches what you see.

    209. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    211. Jace Whittaker – CB – Arizona – 5′-11″ 185 lbs. – a ballhawk with good instincts and good speed. Not very physical and lacks great size.

    212. Colton McKivitz – OT – West Virginia – 6′-6″ 306 lbs. – Big, strong RT prospect that has issues against speed. Can get out over his feet when he lunges at targets.

    214. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    215. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    216. J.J. Taylor – RB – Arizona – 5′-5″ 185 lbs. – Scat back with good receiving skills. Plays fater then he ran, but obviously not a between the tackles type.

    217. James Robinson – RB – Illinois State – 5′-9″ 219 lbs. – A hammer that did it all for ISU. Surprising speed can catch you off guard. not very shifty.

    218. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    219. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    220. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    221. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    222. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    223. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    224. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    225. Salvon Ahmed – RB – Washington – 5′-11″ 197 lbs. – Long speed despite what he ran at the combine. Decent wiggle in the open field. Due to size, a 3rd down back only. Lacks power and vision.

    226. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    227. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    228. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    229. Cole McDonald – QB – Hawaii – 6′-3″ 215 lbs. – An absolute howitzer of an arm. Good NFL size. A rhythm passer that loves getting the ball deep. Everything breaks down once he is off schedule.

    230. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    231. Bravvion Roy – IDL – Baylor – 6′-1″ 333 lbs. – Not your typical NT. He can dominate against the run, but has some juice to get after the QB (6 sacks this year) Short length will limit his upside.

    232. Kamal Martin – LB – Minnesota – 6′-3″ 240 lbs. – A 34 ILB that fills that downhill run plugger role that is tight hipped and lacks the range to work 3 downs. Will stick you when given the chance.

    233. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    234. Trey Adams – OT – Washington – 6′-8″ 318 lbs. – Power blocking scheme only, once a top 25 pick, now maybe undraftable due to multiple injuries. Carries bad weight. A better athlete then mauler so his skill set doesn’t match his power (or lack thereof)

    235. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    236. Darryl Williams – IOL – Mississippi State – 6′-2″ 304 lbs. – A OG/OC prospect with decent power and good technique. Needs to add some power. A tad stiff movement wise. Developmental depth for a power blocking team.

    237. Tyler Clark – IDL – Georgia – 6′-4″ 300 lbs. – nice get off with good hand usage to keep himself clean. Kinda frenetic, and will wash himself out at times. Good power.

    238. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    239. Kalija Lipscomb – WR – Vanderbilt – 6′-0″ 207 lbs. – Good route runner with reliable hands. Just an OK athlete and not a burner.

    240. Tyler Huntley – QB – Utah – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A real athlete with the ball in his hands. Can scramble, throw on the run and generally work his way around in the pocket. Accuracy is OK. Pretty good arm strength. I don’t think he can read a defense yet.

    241. Stanford Samuels III – CB – Florida State – 6′-1″ 187 lbs. – Long and a bit clumsy. Would be a good zone CB with some developmental upside.

    242. Robert Landers – IDL – Ohio State – 6′-1″ 285 lbs. – A 34 DE that lacks the usual length. Strong with a good burst. Decent athlete. At his best in a straight line.

    243. Shyheim Carter – S – Alabama – 5′-10″ 194 lbs. – A CB/S that was used as a hybrid 3rd safety for the Tide. Could be a movable piece in the secondary. Not overly fast or athlete. Declined to test at the combine reinforcing that idea.

    244. Freddie Swain – WR – Florida – 6′-0″ 197 lbs. – Good athlete with good hands and good speed. Not a very nuanced route runner and lacked college production. Punt returner bonus.

    245. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    246. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    247. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    248. Darius Anderson – RB – TCU – 5′-10″ 208 lbs. – A tough little runner with plenty of takeoff, lacks the top end to be a HR threat and lacks the size to be a between that tackles guy.

    249. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

    250. Rodrigo Blankenship – K – Georgia – 6′-1″ 197 lbs. – He kicks footballs and I love his nerd glasses. I dare you to find that kind of draft analysis anywhere but here. LOL

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    Rams vertically stacked Board

    Basically what happens with an NFL stacked draft board, scouts,coaches and the FO get together and go through players and 1st stack them by position (which I did) then overall regardless of position (which I also did) then they shave off names that don’t fit. Then they stack according to need and depth of class and obviously talent and lastly, scheme and lockerroom fit. I think most teams are now doing a horizontal board, but it just doesn’t work on a message board format, so this will have to do.

    I ended up with 150 names, which is a bit much, but without having any idea what they are looking for as far as ILBers or Edge, it added a bunch of names. As did the WRs, since we have no idea what they are looking for and how deep the class is. As far as RBs, if they can fit into an outside zone scheme, they were included, as far as OL, if you can zone block inside or out, you got in. Any questions feel free to ask. FWIW my 1st stacked board had 6 of 11 players and 1 UDFA. So not bad. last year I got 5 of 8 correct, and 4 of the first 5. Missed on Gaines, Allen and Scott. So here you go, ask any questions you may have.

    1. Cesar Ruiz – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 307 lbs. – Zone or man, excellent pass blocker, can play OG or OC. Best combo of size/strength and athletic ability in the IOL group. I like him as a Zone scheme OC.

    2. D’Andre Swift – RB – Georgia – 5′-8″ 212 lbs. – Bellcow back with excellent footwork and balance, HR speed and can catch passes. Not a between the tackles type.

    3. Laviska Shenault Jr. – WR – Colorado – 6′-1″ 227 lbs. – A physical, workhorse that just punishes defenders in the open field. Injuries are a concern.

    4. Josh Jones – OT – Houston – 6′-5″ 319 lbs. – Super athlete with great feet, decent anchor that would work best in a zone scheme. Not the dog the top 4 are, but still will get after it.

    5. Zack Baun – Edge – Wisconsin – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – A bit smaller edge, but he is smart, relentless and refined. Will have trouble against the run due to size. I think he works best as a LBer you move around inside early, out late.

    6. Lloyd Cushenberry – IOL – LSU – 6′-3″ 312 lbs. – Another OG/OC candidate. Strong and tough, not as mobile as the other top OCs. Really improved over the year.

    7. Denzel Mims – WR – Baylor – 6′-3″ 207 lbs. – Big, strong with decent speed. He can go up and get it. A real 50/50 ball stud. Lacks any real route running.

    8. JK Dobbins – RB – Ohio State – 5′-9″ 210 lbs. – Inside out back that can catch passes, extremely tough after first contact and can go the distance. I wish he was a tad bigger.

    9. Justin Jefferson – WR – LSU – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Good route runner, good hands, good speed, good blocker. Not explosive, but gets open, makes catches and scores.

    10. Brandon Aiyuk – WR – Arizona State – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Another big play waiting to happen. Can take the top off the defense and is slippery in the open field. Not a very nuanced route runner, hands are OK.

    11. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge

    12. Jonathan Taylor – RB – Wisconsin – 5′-10″ 226 lbs.– A workhorse back with HR speed and excellent vision. Pass catching is his worst trait, and its fine.

    13. Tee Higgins – WR – Clemson – 6′-4″ 216 lbs. – a highpoint, catch radius WR that wins at all levels of the field, but is at his best winning 50/50. Good, not great speed.

    14. Jalen Reagor – WR – Arizona State – 5′-11′ 206 lbs. – He’s a jittery HR hitter that is electric deep or in the open field. His hands are iffy IMO, or he’d be higher on my list.

    15. Clyde Edwards-Helaire – RB – LSU – 5′-7″ 207 lbs. – An easy mover with a powerful lower half. May lack the size to handle a full NFL load.

    16. Austin Jackson – OT – USC – 6′-5″ 322 lbs. – Lost time/strength due to helping his sister with a medical issue. He may need a year, but a full toolbox with a good balance of strength and agility.

    17. K.J. Hamler – WR – Penn State – 5′-9″ 178 lbs. – Electrifying. In the open field as dangerous as any WR in the draft. Hands can be iffy, and he is small, but a HR hitter and someone a defense needs to plan for.

    18. Lucas Niang – OT – TCU – 6′-6″ 315 lbs. – Another nice power/athletic combo blocker that plays with a nice edge. Injury slowed him some, and needs to get consistent.

    19. Jordyn Brooks – LB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – An absolute heat seeking missile that is devastating going downhill, lacks pass coverage reps. Sideline to sideline.

    20. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.

    21. Marlon Davidson – IDL – Auburn – 6′-3″ 303 lbs. – 3T or 34 DE. I like him as a penetrating DE in a 34 that can also hold his own against the run. Big time motor.

    22. Michael Pittman Jr. – WR – USC – 6′-4″ 223 lbs – Another physical WR that is starting to put everything together. Not a burner, but a good athlete with a great work ethic. A big Robert Woods.

    23. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    24. Matt Hennessy – IOL – Temple – 6′-4″ 307 lbs. – A OZS OC that is an excellent mover with great technique. Needs to get stronger, but IQ and skill set are outstanding. Reminds me of Garrett Bradbury.

    25. Julian Okwara – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 252 lbs. – A 34 Edge with a nice blend of explosiveness and flexibility. Needs to get stronger against the run.

    26. Jonathan Greenard – Edge – Florida – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – I just love his athletic ability, balance against the run and pass and supposedly a hard worker off the field. Not the most flexible, but his length and strength make up for it. high floor, lower ceiling type.

    27. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    28. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.

    29. Kyle Dugger – S – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – Small school kid. Great size and athletic profile that can play free or strong. Excellent blitzer and played really well at the Senior Bowl. Will need some coaching.

    30. Jeremy Chinn – S – Southern Illinois – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Simmons-lite in a safety body. he could be a LBer a S or an edge rusher with crazy athleticism. Love his physicality and the fact that he is always around the ball.

    31. Josh Uche – Edge – Michigan – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – Smaller edge that will have issues against the run. but he is a flexy, bursty little dude that is also good in space.

    32. Zack Moss – RB – Utah – 5′-9″ 223 lbs. – A big, bigtime power back with some wiggle to him. Hard to bring down. I like his footwork. Not a HR hitter and a 1 cut and go type back.

    33. Jonah Jackson – IOL – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 306 lbs. – A technician with decent strength that can play anywhere on the inside. Needs to be more consistent. Plays with an edge.

    34. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    35. Chase Claypool – WR – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – A big possession WR, that wins contested catches, 50-50 balls and is tough in the redzone. Tested better then he plays, but is still a great athlete.

    36. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    37. Robert Hunt – IOL – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6′-5″ 323 lbs. – 2nd nastiest OG in the draft. He is a punisher. Needs to be a little more patient, but he will finish on all levels.

    38. Malik Harrison – LB – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Old school type MLBer that stuffs the run and plugs gaps. Quick to react, strong and will drop the hammer. Too stiff to contribute in a lot of coverage.

    39. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    40. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    41. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    42. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    43. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    44. Matt Peart – OT – Connecticut – 6′-7″ 318 lbs. – An easy moving OT with decent strength that again, could use a year or 2 learning and adding power, but there is no denying the skills are there.

    45. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    46. Raekwon Davis – IDL – Alabama – 6′-7″ 311 lbs. – a 34 DE, because he will get out-leveraged on the inside. powerful with a solid anchor against the run, pass rush potential is there, but never developed.

    47. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    48. Bryan Edwards – WR – South Carolina – 6′-3″ 212 lbs. – He wins with his size and physicality in the middle of the field. Not a burner, but plays hard and smart.

    49. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.– Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    50. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    51.Kenny Robinson – S – XFL – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A ballhawking single high Safety that needs development, but has a real nice athletic profile and flashes elite ball skills.

    52. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    53. Cole Kmet – TE – Notre Dame – 6′-6″ 263 lbs. – Another size mismatch with decent athleticism. Should be a better blocker then he is. Good hands, decent route runner.

    54. Adam Troutman – TE – Dayton – 6′-5″ 255 lbs. – Exciting athlete that is new to being a TE. Extremely productive, but a raw skill set including route running. A plus blocker.

    55. Darrell Taylor – Edge – Tennessee – 6′-4″ 267 lbs. – Good athlete, with plenty of flex, decent get off and enough size to hold up against the run. hasn’t put it all together. High upside, high bust potential.

    56. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    57. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    58. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    59. Ezra Cleveland – OT – Boise State – 6′-6″ 311 lbs. – Absolute athlete for his size/length. Real smooth mover with light feet. Needs to add strength and needs technique work. I’d say an OZS LT right now.

    60. Willie Gay Jr. – LB – Miss. St. – 6′-2″ 243 lbs. – Athletic and quick, will pop you in the mouth. And he did punch his own QB in the face, so there is that. Could be a 3 down ILBer with some seasoning.

    61. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    62. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    63. Brandon Jones – S – Texas – 5′-11″ 198 lbs. – A smaller, tad more rangy version of Brooks. He is a thumper with an all-day motor, and a nose for the ball.

    64. Jordan Elliott – IDL – Missouri – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Strong and bursty, he can cause havoc in the backfield. Easy mover with excellent hands. Not the fastest off the snap, timing issues slow him down.

    65. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    66. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    67. AJ Dillon – RB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 247 lbs. – A bigger bodied back with more speed than one would think. A gap power fit. Loses a lot when stretched out east to west.

    68. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    69. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    70. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    71. Jabari Zuniga – Edge – Florida – 6′-3″ 253 lbs. – Decent burst, OK against the run, good athlete with range. Another boom bust prospect.

    72. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    73. Alex Highsmith – Edge – Charlotte – 6′-4″ 248 lbs. – Dynamic athlete off the edge with plenty of range, good flexibility and a great motor. Not the sturdiest run defender. 34 Edge.

    74. Logan Wilson – LB – Wyoming – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – A easy flowing downhill ILBer with average athletic ability, plays with smarts and under control. Don’t think he has the range to cover on passing downs. 2 Down ILBer.

    75. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    76. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    77. Antonio Gibson – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 223 lbs. – A wr/rb/do it all back with home run ability. Elusive with a bit of power. A jack of all trades, master of none.

    78. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    79. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    80. Ke’Shawn Vaughn – RB – Vanderbilt – 5′-10″ 214 lbs. – Decent vision with good balance and ok speed. Good pass catcher. Lacks wiggle and not explosive.

    81. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    82. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    83. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    84. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    85. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    86. Lynn Bowden – WR – Kentucky – 5′-11″ 204 lbs. – a gadget WR that can play RB and QB (wildcat) A real team guy that you will need to game plan to get the ball in his hands as he learns to be a slot WR.

    87. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    88. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    89. Darrynton Evans – RB – Appalachian State – 5′-10″ 203 lbs. – Lightning in a bottle. His change of direction and lateral jump cuts will have defenders tackling air. HR speed. Narrow frame with little room for growth. Better outside then inside. OZS committee back.

    90. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    91. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    92. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    93. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    94. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    95. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    96. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    97. Josiah Deguara – TE – Cincinnati – 6′-2″ 242 lbs. – Good inline blocker regardless his size, is also a good route runner and pass catcher. Not a tremendous athlete, but is first team try hard TE. A balanced TE.

    98. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    99. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    100. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    101. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    102. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    103. Julian Blackmon – S – Utah – 6′-0″ 187 lbs. – Fun kid on tape. Plenty of speed and range, great physicality, but at the same time, not a tremendous athlete.

    104. Devin Duvernay – WR – Texas – 5′-10″ 200 lbs. – a speed demon that would rather run you over then around you. A RB in a WRs body. A smart OC can do alot of stuff with this kid. Small catch radius.

    105. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    106. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    107. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    108. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    109. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    110. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    111. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    112. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    113. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    114. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    115. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    116. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    117. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    118. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    119. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    120. Tanner Muse – S – Clemson – 6′-2″ 227 lbs. – A big S, maybe a LBer…4.41 speed, can play deep due to his speed and athleticism, can play in the box due to his size. Never put it all together for his profile.

    121. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    122. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    123. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    124. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    125. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    126. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    127. Davion Taylor – LB – Colorado – 6′-1″ 228 lbs. – Late comer to football. Kid is a PAC 12 track star, so he can fly, great athlete, smooth mover. Great motor. Needs to get stronger and needs massive development. WILL or ILB in a 34.

    128. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    129 Devin Asiasi – TE – UCLA – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – a combo blocker/receiver with good size for the position. Needs technical work in all aspects. Developmental type traditional TE.

    130. Dalton Keene – TE – Virginia Tech – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – Here is your late round, H-back, fullback, TE. He can block and catch but was never really given much opportunity. Decent athlete, but plays like an old school TE.

    131. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    132. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    133. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    134. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    135. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    136. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    137. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    138. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    139. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    140. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    141. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    142. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    143. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    144. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    145. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    146. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    147. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    148. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    149. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    150. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

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    1. Cesar Ruiz – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 307 lbs. – Zone or man, excellent pass blocker, can play OG or OC. Best combo of size/strength and athletic ability in the IOL group. I like him as a Zone scheme OC.

    2. D’Andre Swift – RB – Georgia – 5′-8″ 212 lbs. – Bellcow back with excellent footwork and balance, HR speed and can catch passes. Not a between the tackles type.

    3. Laviska Shenault Jr. – WR – Colorado – 6′-1″ 227 lbs. – A physical, workhorse that just punishes defenders in the open field. Injuries are a concern.

    4. Josh Jones – OT – Houston – 6′-5″ 319 lbs. – Super athlete with great feet, decent anchor that would work best in a zone scheme. Not the dog the top 4 are, but still will get after it.

    5. Zack Baun – Edge – Wisconsin – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – A bit smaller edge, but he is smart, relentless and refined. Will have trouble against the run due to size. I think he works best as a LBer you move around inside early, out late.

    6. Lloyd Cushenberry – IOL – LSU – 6′-3″ 312 lbs. – Another OG/OC candidate. Strong and tough, not as mobile as the other top OCs. Really improved over the year.

    7. Denzel Mims – WR – Baylor – 6′-3″ 207 lbs. – Big, strong with decent speed. He can go up and get it. A real 50/50 ball stud. Lacks any real route running.

    8. JK Dobbins – RB – Ohio State – 5′-9″ 210 lbs. – Inside out back that can catch passes, extremely tough after first contact and can go the distance. I wish he was a tad bigger.

    9. Justin Jefferson – WR – LSU – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Good route runner, good hands, good speed, good blocker. Not explosive, but gets open, makes catches and scores.

    10. Brandon Aiyuk – WR – Arizona State – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Another big play waiting to happen. Can take the top off the defense and is slippery in the open field. Not a very nuanced route runner, hands are OK.

    11. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge

    12. Jonathan Taylor – RB – Wisconsin – 5′-10″ 226 lbs.- A workhorse back with HR speed and excellent vision. Pass catching is his worst trait, and its fine.

    13. Tee Higgins – WR – Clemson – 6′-4″ 216 lbs. – a highpoint, catch radius WR that wins at all levels of the field, but is at his best winning 50/50. Good, not great speed.

    14. Jalen Reagor – WR – Arizona State – 5′-11′ 206 lbs. – He’s a jittery HR hitter that is electric deep or in the open field. His hands are iffy IMO, or he’d be higher on my list.

    15. Clyde Edwards-Helaire – RB – LSU – 5′-7″ 207 lbs. – An easy mover with a powerful lower half. May lack the size to handle a full NFL load.

    16. Austin Jackson – OT – USC – 6′-5″ 322 lbs. – Lost time/strength due to helping his sister with a medical issue. He may need a year, but a full toolbox with a good balance of strength and agility.

    17. K.J. Hamler – WR – Penn State – 5′-9″ 178 lbs. – Electrifying. In the open field as dangerous as any WR in the draft. Hands can be iffy, and he is small, but a HR hitter and someone a defense needs to plan for.

    18. Lucas Niang – OT – TCU – 6′-6″ 315 lbs. – Another nice power/athletic combo blocker that plays with a nice edge. Injury slowed him some, and needs to get consistent.

    19. Jordyn Brooks – LB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – An absolute heat seeking missile that is devastating going downhill, lacks pass coverage reps. Sideline to sideline.

    20. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.

    21. Marlon Davidson – IDL – Auburn – 6′-3″ 303 lbs. – 3T or 34 DE. I like him as a penetrating DE in a 34 that can also hold his own against the run. Big time motor.

    22. Michael Pittman Jr. – WR – USC – 6′-4″ 223 lbs – Another physical WR that is starting to put everything together. Not a burner, but a good athlete with a great work ethic. A big Robert Woods.

    23. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    24. Matt Hennessy – IOL – Temple – 6′-4″ 307 lbs. – A OZS OC that is an excellent mover with great technique. Needs to get stronger, but IQ and skill set are outstanding. Reminds me of Garrett Bradbury.

    25. Julian Okwara – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 252 lbs. – A 34 Edge with a nice blend of explosiveness and flexibility. Needs to get stronger against the run.

    26. Jonathan Greenard – Edge – Florida – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – I just love his athletic ability, balance against the run and pass and supposedly a hard worker off the field. Not the most flexible, but his length and strength make up for it. high floor, lower ceiling type.

    27. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    28. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.

    29. Kyle Dugger – S – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – Small school kid. Great size and athletic profile that can play free or strong. Excellent blitzer and played really well at the Senior Bowl. Will need some coaching.

    30. Jeremy Chinn – S – Southern Illinois – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Simmons-lite in a safety body. he could be a LBer a S or an edge rusher with crazy athleticism. Love his physicality and the fact that he is always around the ball.

    31. Josh Uche – Edge – Michigan – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – Smaller edge that will have issues against the run. but he is a flexy, bursty little dude that is also good in space.

    32. Zack Moss – RB – Utah – 5′-9″ 223 lbs. – A big, bigtime power back with some wiggle to him. Hard to bring down. I like his footwork. Not a HR hitter and a 1 cut and go type back.

    33. Jonah Jackson – IOL – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 306 lbs. – A technician with decent strength that can play anywhere on the inside. Needs to be more consistent. Plays with an edge.

    34. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    35. Chase Claypool – WR – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – A big possession WR, that wins contested catches, 50-50 balls and is tough in the redzone. Tested better then he plays, but is still a great athlete.

    36. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    37. Robert Hunt – IOL – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6′-5″ 323 lbs. – 2nd nastiest OG in the draft. He is a punisher. Needs to be a little more patient, but he will finish on all levels.

    38. Malik Harrison – LB – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Old school type MLBer that stuffs the run and plugs gaps. Quick to react, strong and will drop the hammer. Too stiff to contribute in a lot of coverage.

    39. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    40. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    41. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    42. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    43. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    44. Matt Peart – OT – Connecticut – 6′-7″ 318 lbs. – An easy moving OT with decent strength that again, could use a year or 2 learning and adding power, but there is no denying the skills are there.

    45. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    46. Raekwon Davis – IDL – Alabama – 6′-7″ 311 lbs. – a 34 DE, because he will get out-leveraged on the inside. powerful with a solid anchor against the run, pass rush potential is there, but never developed.

    47. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    48. Bryan Edwards – WR – South Carolina – 6′-3″ 212 lbs. – He wins with his size and physicality in the middle of the field. Not a burner, but plays hard and smart.

    49. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.- Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    50. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    51.Kenny Robinson – S – XFL – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A ballhawking single high Safety that needs development, but has a real nice athletic profile and flashes elite ball skills.

    52. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    53. Cole Kmet – TE – Notre Dame – 6′-6″ 263 lbs. – Another size mismatch with decent athleticism. Should be a better blocker then he is. Good hands, decent route runner.

    54. Adam Troutman – TE – Dayton – 6′-5″ 255 lbs. – Exciting athlete that is new to being a TE. Extremely productive, but a raw skill set including route running. A plus blocker.

    55. Darrell Taylor – Edge – Tennessee – 6′-4″ 267 lbs. – Good athlete, with plenty of flex, decent get off and enough size to hold up against the run. hasn’t put it all together. High upside, high bust potential.

    56. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    57. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    58. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    59. Ezra Cleveland – OT – Boise State – 6′-6″ 311 lbs. – Absolute athlete for his size/length. Real smooth mover with light feet. Needs to add strength and needs technique work. I’d say an OZS LT right now.

    60. Willie Gay Jr. – LB – Miss. St. – 6′-2″ 243 lbs. – Athletic and quick, will pop you in the mouth. And he did punch his own QB in the face, so there is that. Could be a 3 down ILBer with some seasoning.

    61. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    62. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    63. Brandon Jones – S – Texas – 5′-11″ 198 lbs. – A smaller, tad more rangy version of Brooks. He is a thumper with an all-day motor, and a nose for the ball.

    64. Jordan Elliott – IDL – Missouri – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Strong and bursty, he can cause havoc in the backfield. Easy mover with excellent hands. Not the fastest off the snap, timing issues slow him down.

    65. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    66. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    67. AJ Dillon – RB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 247 lbs. – A bigger bodied back with more speed than one would think. A gap power fit. Loses a lot when stretched out east to west.

    68. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    69. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    70. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    71. Jabari Zuniga – Edge – Florida – 6′-3″ 253 lbs. – Decent burst, OK against the run, good athlete with range. Another boom bust prospect.

    72. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    73. Alex Highsmith – Edge – Charlotte – 6′-4″ 248 lbs. – Dynamic athlete off the edge with plenty of range, good flexibility and a great motor. Not the sturdiest run defender. 34 Edge.

    74. Logan Wilson – LB – Wyoming – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – A easy flowing downhill ILBer with average athletic ability, plays with smarts and under control. Don’t think he has the range to cover on passing downs. 2 Down ILBer.

    75. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    76. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    77. Antonio Gibson – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 223 lbs. – A wr/rb/do it all back with home run ability. Elusive with a bit of power. A jack of all trades, master of none.

    78. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    79. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    80. Ke’Shawn Vaughn – RB – Vanderbilt – 5′-10″ 214 lbs. – Decent vision with good balance and ok speed. Good pass catcher. Lacks wiggle and not explosive.

    81. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    82. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    83. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    84. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    85. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    86. Lynn Bowden – WR – Kentucky – 5′-11″ 204 lbs. – a gadget WR that can play RB and QB (wildcat) A real team guy that you will need to game plan to get the ball in his hands as he learns to be a slot WR.

    87. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    88. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    89. Darrynton Evans – RB – Appalachian State – 5′-10″ 203 lbs. – Lightning in a bottle. His change of direction and lateral jump cuts will have defenders tackling air. HR speed. Narrow frame with little room for growth. Better outside then inside. OZS committee back.

    90. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    91. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    92. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    93. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    94. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    95. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    96. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    97. Josiah Deguara – TE – Cincinnati – 6′-2″ 242 lbs. – Good inline blocker regardless his size, is also a good route runner and pass catcher. Not a tremendous athlete, but is first team try hard TE. A balanced TE.

    98. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    99. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    100. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    101. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    102. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    103. Julian Blackmon – S – Utah – 6′-0″ 187 lbs. – Fun kid on tape. Plenty of speed and range, great physicality, but at the same time, not a tremendous athlete.

    104. Devin Duvernay – WR – Texas – 5′-10″ 200 lbs. – a speed demon that would rather run you over then around you. A RB in a WRs body. A smart OC can do alot of stuff with this kid. Small catch radius.

    105. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    106. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    107. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    108. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    109. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    110. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    111. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    112. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    113. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    114. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    115. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    116. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    117. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    118. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    119. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    120. Tanner Muse – S – Clemson – 6′-2″ 227 lbs. – A big S, maybe a LBer…4.41 speed, can play deep due to his speed and athleticism, can play in the box due to his size. Never put it all together for his profile.

    121. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    122. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    123. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    124. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    125. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    126. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    127. Davion Taylor – LB – Colorado – 6′-1″ 228 lbs. – Late comer to football. Kid is a PAC 12 track star, so he can fly, great athlete, smooth mover. Great motor. Needs to get stronger and needs massive development. WILL or ILB in a 34.

    128. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    129 Devin Asiasi – TE – UCLA – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – a combo blocker/receiver with good size for the position. Needs technical work in all aspects. Developmental type traditional TE.

    130. Dalton Keene – TE – Virginia Tech – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – Here is your late round, H-back, fullback, TE. He can block and catch but was never really given much opportunity. Decent athlete, but plays like an old school TE.

    131. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    132. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    133. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    134. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    135. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    136. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    137. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    138. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    139. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    140. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    141. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    142. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    143. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    144. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    145. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    146. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    147. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    148. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    149. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    150. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

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    My 2020 250 player Big Board

    A few notes before I get to the list:

    1. I have seen every player. Some guys I have only seen in the Shrine Game. Others I have seen a ton. So my grading is not perfect.

    2. This is a board built from a scoring system and not where I think they will land in the draft. That is a predictive board. So I get Joe Burrow is going #1 and not where I have him. Its where he scored.

    3. As far as scoring, its new to me, and I altered it from last year. I grade a player on several categories (depending on position) on a 1-10 scale. Injuries now do come into play. Some red flags from off the field as well.

    4. My top 10 lists per position are coming.

    5. I summarized each player to give you an idea of their strengths and weaknesses, if you see one with too many comments one way or the other, it doesn’t mean he should be higher or lower.

    6. ask any questions you like.

    1. Chase Young – Edge – Ohio St. – 6′-5″ 264 lbs. – Size/speed/strength/athleticism. He is the total package in a prototypical 43 DE body.

    2. Jeff Okudah – CB – Ohio St. – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Big, quick, fast, smooth and physical. Perfect fit in a press man system, but will work in off man and zone.

    3. Derrick Brown – IDL -Auburn – 6′-4″ 326 lbs. – Explosive, strong, excellent hand fighter and has an all-day motor. Total package.

    4. Isaiah Simmons – LB – Clemson – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – ILB, Safety, CB, Edge. Kid can do it all with his blend of elite speed, athleticism and strength. In a league wanting more do it all types, he may be the best of them all.

    5. Jedrick Wills – OT – Alabama – 6′-4″ 312 lbs. – Played RT to protect a lefty QB. He can dominate you power wise and has plenty of juice to move, slide hit and rinse repeat. Oh and he is a technician as well as a mauler…

    6. Jerry Jeudy – WR – Alabama – 6′-1″ 193 lbs. – Excellent hands, excellent route runner and electric speed. Everything you want in a #1 WR.

    7. Tristan Wirfs – OT – Iowa – 6′-5″ 320 lbs. – Some think he’s an OG. They are wrong. Athletic and powerful with good technique. He can play either side and be a 10 year rock star.

    8. CeeDee Lamb -WR – Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 198 lbs. – a size/speed WR that is an absolute terror in the open field. Excellent hands are just the cherry on top. Could use some strength.

    9. K’Lavon Chaisson – Edge – LSU – 6′-4″ 254 lbs. – My top 34 Edge. Speed to power guy with plenty of athletic ability and a leader mentality. Good motor as well. 3 down edge.

    10. Mekhi Becton – OT – Louisville – 6′-7″ 357 lbs. – The Mountain. He is a physical rarity. He is fast, strong big and agile. Has had issues maintaining his weight in the past.

    11. Javon Kinlaw – IDL -South Carolina – 6′-5″ 324 lbs. – Another big, explosive lineman that can get after it. may have some character concerns.

    12. Kristian Fulton – CB – LSU – 6′-0″ 197 lbs. – Good size to go with a smooth, athletic profile. Always under control and doesn’t panic. Another press man CB.

    13. Kenneth Murray – LB – Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – Sideline to sideline ILBer with power and everything you want in a defensive leader.

    14. Joe Burrow – QB – LSU – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Above average in most categories. Elite movement in and manipulation of the pocket makes him special. Prototypical size helps.

    15. Andrew Thomas – OT – Georgia – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – Not the athlete the top 3 are, but if hands are on you, be prepared to eat dirt. Excellent hands combined with that power makes for a long day against the run.

    16. Tua Tagovailoa – QB – Alabama – 6′-0″ 217 lbs. – Love his athletic ability, accuracy to all levels and competitiveness. Injury history drops him a slot.

    17. Grant Delpit – S – LSU – 6′-2″ 213 lbs. – Single high is the safety everyone wants, and Delpit is an excellent single high with great range, smooth change of direction and can drop into the box and blitz.

    18. C.J. Henderson – CB – Florida – 6′-1″ 204 lbs. – Explosive, smooth and fast, he has a ballhawk mentality. Didn’t want to tackle this year. Business decision? Off man or zone corner.

    19. Patrick Queen – LB – LSU – 6′-1″ 229 lbs. – A new age ILBer that can run, cover and hit. His lack of length is a bit of a concern.

    20. Xavier McKinney – S – Alabama – 6′-0″ 201 lbs. – Not a single high, but a tough nosed moveable chess piece that wins everywhere on the field.

    21. Laviska Shenault Jr. – WR – Colorado – 6′-1″ 227 lbs. – A physical, workhorse that just punishes defenders in the open field. Injuries are a concern.

    22. A.J. Epenesa – Edge – Iowa – 6′-6″ 275 lbs. – A bit stiff, but he works, strong as a bull and I think he gives you End work on early downs and moves inside on 3rds.

    23. Henry Ruggs III – WR – Alabama – 5′-11″ 188 lbs. – Here’s your HR threat. a pure speed machine that won’t wow you with his route running ability.

    24. Neville Gallimore – IDL – Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 304 lbs. – Good athlete with power, all day motor and tough. Not as dynamic as a pass rusher as the top 2 guys.

    25. Cesar Ruiz – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 307 lbs. – Zone or man, excellent pass blocker, can play OG or OC. Best combo of size/strength and athletic ability in the IOL group. I like him as a Zone scheme OC.

    26. Justin Herbert – QB – Oregon – 6′-6″ 236 lbs. – Big kid, big arm. Needs to fix some mechanics involving his legs. I worry he isn’t a natural leader.

    27. Jonathan Taylor – RB – Wisconsin – 5′-10″ 226 lbs. – A workhorse back with HR speed and excellent vision. Pass catching is his worst trait, and its fine.

    28. Yetur Gross-Matos – Edge – Penn St. – 6′-5″ 266 lbs. – Raw, but the tools spill out of his toolbox. 43 DE. Love his length and explosiveness from a 3 point stance. high ceiling.

    29. D’Andre Swift – RB – Georgia – 5′-8″ 212 lbs. – Bellcow back with excellent footwork and balance, HR speed and can catch passes. Not a between the tackles type.

    30. Trevon Diggs – CB – Alabama – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Brother to Stephon, he is a zone/man cb prospect with excellent footwork and fluid movement skills. Add that to his length and he is a handful.

    31. Antoine Winfield Jr. – S – Minnesota – 5′-9″ 203 lbs. – Undersized ballhawking, instinctual and extremely physical S. Again, not a sigle high, and more of a halves type safety.

    32. Tee Higgins – WR – Clemson – 6′-4″ 216 lbs. – a highpoint, catch radius WR that wins at all levels of the field, but is at his best winning 50/50. Good, not great speed.

    33. JK Dobbins – RB – Ohio State – 5′-9″ 210 lbs. – Inside out back that can catch passes, extremely tough after first contact and can go the distance. I wish he was a tad bigger.

    34. Noah Igbinoghene – CB – Auburn – 5′-10″ 198 lbs. – Former WR turned college CB, so he needs to be developed, but he is ultra fast, explosive and just an overall smooth athlete. Zone or man fit.

    35. Ross Blacklock – IDL – TCU – 6′-4″ 290 lbs. – Incredible feet with good power has him in gaps consistently. Not the fastest react time. Achilles injury 2 years ago.

    36. Jordan Love – QB – Utah State – 6′-4″ 224 lbs. – I don’t get the Mahommes comp., He pressed bigtime this year and struggled. Big time athlete with big arm.

    37. Justin Jefferson – WR – LSU – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Good route runner, good hands, good speed, good blocker. Not explosive, but gets open, makes catches and scores.

    38. Jeff Gladney – CB – TCU – 5′-10″ – 191 lbs. – Physical, hard-nosed press man CB with excellent speed. More than willing to help against the run.

    39. Josh Jones – OT – Houston – 6′-5″ 319 lbs. – Super athlete with great feet, decent anchor that would work best in a zone scheme. Not the dog the top 4 are, but still will get after it.

    40. Van Jefferson – WR – Florida – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – A route running technician, good hands and is OK in the open field. Not explosive and not what I would call a HR threat.

    41. Justin Madubuike – IDL – Texas A&M – 6′-3″ 293 lbs. – An explosive, penetrating type DT with good strength that needs to be more consistent.

    42. Austin Jackson – OT – USC – 6′-5″ 322 lbs. – Lost time/strength due to helping his sister with a medical issue. He may need a year, but a full toolbox with a good balance of strength and agility.

    43. Clyde Edwards-Helaire – RB – LSU – 5′-7″ 207 lbs. – An easy mover with a powerful lower half. May lack the size to handle a full NFL load.

    44. Lucas Niang – OT – TCU – 6′-6″ 315 lbs. – Another nice power/athletic combo blocker that plays with a nice edge. Injury slowed him some, and needs to get consistent.

    45. Lloyd Cushenberry – IOL – LSU – 6′-3″ 312 lbs. – Another OG/OC candidate. Strong and tough, not as mobile as the other top OCs. Really improved over the year.

    46. Terrell Lewis – Alabama – 6′-5″ 262 lbs. – Another high ceiling guy with injury history. Loooong levered. Smooth. Stong. 34 Edge

    47. Marlon Davidson – IDL – Auburn – 6′-3″ 303 lbs. – 3T or 34 DE. I like him as a penetrating DE in a 34 that can also hold his own against the run. Big time motor.

    48. Jalen Reagor – WR – Arizona State – 5′-11′ 206 lbs. – He’s a jittery HR hitter that is electric deep or in the open field. His hands are iffy IMO, or he’d be higher on my list.

    49. Kyle Dugger – S – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – Small school kid. Great size and athletic profile that can play free or strong. Excellent blitzer and played really well at the Senior Bowl. Will need some coaching.

    50. Donovan Peoples-Jones – WR – Michigan – 6′-2″ 212 lbs. – Good hands and an excellent athlete. Underused in that woeful Mich. offense. He is more of a projection due to lack of production.

    51. Denzel Mims – WR – Baylor – 6′-3″ 207 lbs. – Big, strong with decent speed. He can go up and get it. A real 50/50 ball stud. Lacks any real route running.

    52. Zack Baun – Edge – Wisconsin – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – A bit smaller edge, but he is smart, relentless and refined. Will have trouble against the run due to size. I think he works best as a LBer you move around inside early, out late.

    53. Ashtyn Davis – S – California – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – A physical safety that works in a variety of sets, works best when he’s free to roam in a zone and make plays.

    54. Matt Hennessy – IOL – Temple – 6′-4″ 307 lbs. – A OZS OC that is an excellent mover with great technique. Needs to get stronger, but IQ and skill set are outstanding. Reminds me of Garrett Bradbury.

    55. Damon Arnette – CB – Ohio St. – 6′-0″ 195 lbs. – Easy moving, physical press man CB with very good instincts.

    56. Jeremy Chinn – S – Southern Illinois – 6′-3″ 221 lbs. – Simmons-lite in a safety body. he could be a LBer a S or an edge rusher with crazy athleticism. Love his physicality and the fact that he is always around the ball.

    57. Cam Akers – RB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 217 lbs. – Another feature back buried on a horrible offense. Does a little of everything., but he’s a downhill 1 cut style power back at his best.

    58. K.J. Hamler – WR – Penn State – 5′-9″ 178 lbs. – Electrifying. In the open field as dangerous as any WR in the draft. Hands can be iffy, and he is small, but a HR hitter and someone a defense needs to plan for.

    59. Julian Okwara – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 252 lbs. – A 34 Edge with a nice blend of explosiveness and flexibility. Needs to get stronger against the run.

    60. A.J. Terrell – CB – Clemson – 6′-1″ 195 lbs. – Fast, big press man that needs to rely on his skill set and not resort to getting so handsy. This is football, not the backseat of your dads Olds on date night.

    61. Jordyn Brooks – LB – Texas Tech – 6′-1″ 240 lbs. – An absolute heat seeking missile that is devastating going downhill, lacks pass coverage reps. Sideline to sideline.

    62. Brandon Aiyuk – WR – Arizona State – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Another big play waiting to happen. Can take the top off the defense and is slippery in the open field. Not a very nuanced route runner, hands are OK.

    63. Josh Uche – Edge – Michigan – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – Smaller edge that will have issues against the run. but he is a flexy, bursty little dude that is also good in space.

    64. Jonah Jackson – IOL – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 306 lbs. – A technician with decent strength that can play anywhere on the inside. Needs to be more consistent. Plays with an edge.

    65. Troy Pride – CB – Notre Dame – 5′-11″ 193 lbs. – Under-rated athletically, has good speed and can work in man and zone coverages. A perfect #2 CB.

    66. Malik Harrison – LB – Ohio St. – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Old school type MLBer that stuffs the run and plugs gaps. Quick to react, strong and will drop the hammer. Too stiff to contribute in a lot of coverage.

    67. Bryce Hall – CB – Virginia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Long, physical and smart. Always taking good angles and is in the proper position. Not the world’s best athlete. he will outwork you. Zone CB.

    68. Brycen Hopkins – TE – Purdue – 6′-4″ 245 lbs. – Your prototypical new age TE. A mismatch problem in the middle of the field that is a smooth, easy mover. Not an inline blocker, I worry a bit about his hands.

    69. Jacob Eason – QB – Washington – 6′-6″ 231 lbs. – Biggest arm in the class, but is a statue and panics a little too easily for my taste.

    70. Jaylon Johnson – CB – Utah – 6′-0″ 193 lbs. – Decent size and speed that excels in man coverage. Fast to react and is a ballhawk. Smooth mover.

    71. Leki Fotu – IDL – Utah – 6′-4″ 330 lbs. – A monster NT with a little pass rush juice to him. Good motor and is almost impossible to move. Not the athletic freak Lawrence was last year.

    72. Ben Bartch – OT – St. Johns (MN) – 6′-6″ 309 lbs. – Small School prospect that held his own at Senior Bowl. TE turned OT. Athletic with a nice anchor, he needs seasoning. Arm length probably moves him inside.

    73. Cameron Dantzler – CB – Mississippi State – 6′-2″ 188 lbs. -a big CB that may move to S due to speed restrictions. I like him in press man, but his ability to sniff out routes should help in zone concepts as well.

    74. Eno Benjamin – RB – Arizona State – 5′-9″ 207 lbs. – Physical for his size, smooth lower half and can be slippery to tackle. Change of pace back only.

    75. Matt Peart – OT – Connecticut – 6′-7″ 318 lbs. – An easy moving OT with decent strength that again, could use a year or 2 learning and adding power, but there is no denying the skills are there.

    76. DaVon Hamilton – IDL – Ohio St. – 6′-4″ 320 lbs. – A powerhouse run defender that was never tasked to rush the passer. Early 2 down starter with the athletic profile to possibly add some inside pass rush.

    77. Jake Fromm – QB – Georgia – 6′-2″ 219 lbs. – Smartest QB in the draft, has a noodle for an arm and is a little on the small side.

    78. Robert Hunt – IOL – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6′-5″ 323 lbs. – 2nd nastiest OG in the draft. He is a punisher. Needs to be a little more patient, but he will finish on all levels.

    79. Jonathan Greenard – Edge – Florida – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – I just love his athletic ability, balance against the run and pass and supposedly a hard worker off the field. Not the most flexible, but his length and strength make up for it. high floor, lower ceiling type.

    80. Alohi Gilman – S – Notre Dame – 5′-10″ 201 lbs. – A zone safety that is an absolute hammer coming forward. Another versatile player that can do a little of everything.

    81. Prince Tega Wanogho – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 308 lbs. – Surprise, an athletic, raw skilled LT from Auburn. He has elite tools, but needs a year learning and gaining strength.

    82. Curtis Weaver – Edge – Boise St. – 6′-3″ 265 lbs. – He could either be a 43 or 34. Lacks an ideal athletic profile, but has a hot motor, a good first step, active hands and handles his own against the run. Another high floor, lower ceiling type.

    83. Chase Claypool – WR – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 238 lbs. – A big possession WR, that wins contested catches, 50-50 balls and is tough in the redzone. Tested better then he plays, but is still a great athlete.

    84. Akeem Davis-Gaither – LB – Appalachian St. – 6′-2″ 224 lbs. – Highly productive WILL that plays fast, can cover and rush the QB. I like him outside in a 43, but maybe a MO in a 34…

    85. Raekwon Davis – IDL – Alabama – 6′-7″ 311 lbs. – a 34 DE, because he will get out-leveraged on the inside. powerful with a solid anchor against the run, pass rush potential is there, but never developed.

    86. Albert Okwuegbunam – TE – Missouri – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – Big target with enough athletic ability to create issues in the seam. A decent and willing blocker inline. Offense and QB really slowed down his progression.

    87. Darnay Holmes – CB – UCLA – 5′-10″ 195 lbs.– Smooth and quick are his calling cards. I wish he was more aggressive. off man or zone scheme fit.

    88. K’Von Wallace – S – Clemson – 5′-11″ 206 lbs. – Physical, will stick his face in the fan and has some nice ball production. Not overly athletic or fast, but versatile.

    89. Bryan Edwards – WR – South Carolina – 6′-3″ 212 lbs. – He wins with his size and physicality in the middle of the field. Not a burner, but plays hard and smart.

    90. Thaddeus Moss – TE – LSU – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – Not the freakish athlete his dad was, but is a monster in the blocking game, is a nuanced route runner and knows how to get open. Competes hard.

    91. Troy Dye – LB – Oregon – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Another see ball, chase ball LBer that needs to add strength. But he makes plays all over the field.

    92. Antoine Brooks Jr. – S – Maryland – 5′-11″ 220 lbs. – Here is that big nickel LBer or third safety I have been talking about for the last year or so. best working around the box in sub packages. Physical, emotional and not extremely rangy.

    93. Cole Kmet – TE – Notre Dame – 6′-6″ 263 lbs. – Another size mismatch with decent athleticism. Should be a better blocker then he is. Good hands, decent route runner.

    94. Saahdiq Charles – OT – LSU – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A smooth mover with good athleticism, but lacks power. A move inside might be in his future. zone scheme prospect.

    95. Adam Troutman – TE – Dayton – 6′-5″ 255 lbs. – Exciting athlete that is new to being a TE. Extremely productive, but a raw skill set including route running. A plus blocker.

    96. Zack Moss – RB – Utah – 5′-9″ 223 lbs. – A big, bigtime power back with some wiggle to him. Hard to bring down. I like his footwork. Not a HR hitter and a 1 cut and go type back.

    97. Darrell Taylor – Edge – Tennessee – 6′-4″ 267 lbs. – Good athlete, with plenty of flex, decent get off and enough size to hold up against the run. hasn’t put it all together. High upside, high bust potential.

    98. Steven Montez – QB – Colorado – 6′-4″ 231 lbs. – Big arm, all the tools, has just never put it all together.

    99. Logan Stenberg – IOL – Kentucky – 6′-6″ 317 lbs. – Meanest, nastiest OG in the draft. Won’t win on style points and will talk your ear off. Not a great athlete.

    100. Tyler Biadasz – IOL – Wisconsin – 6′-4″ 314 lbs. – OC for any scheme. Excellent mover with a great anchor and good strength. Off season hip surgery slowed him down last season. Followed by shoulder surgery this off season. Could be a heck of a steal.

    101. Khalid Kareem – Edge – Notre Dame – 6′-4″ 268 lbs. – Long and strong, excellent against the run, not much juice as a pass rusher. A bit stiff. 43 end only.

    102. Ezra Cleveland – OT – Boise State – 6′-6″ 311 lbs. – Absolute athlete for his size/length. Real smooth mover with light feet. Needs to add strength and needs technique work. I’d say an OZS LT right now.

    103. Rashard Lawrence – IDL – LSU – 6′-2″ – 308 lbs. – What you would expect in an LSU DL, tough, strong and excellent against the run. Doesn’t offer much in the way of a pass rush.

    104. Isaiah Wilson – OT – Georgia – 6′-6″ 350 lbs. – from the No duh file, dude is massive. An absolute mauler that is in desperate need of technique work. Right tackle.

    105. Jalen Hurts – QB – Oklahoma – 6′-1″ 221 lbs. – Athletic, alpha dog that has problems with seeing the whole field and accuracy issues. Needs to be coached up.

    106. Bradlee Anae – Edge – Utah – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Can rush the passer and hold his own against the run, excellent hand fighter, with a top-notch motor. Not the greatest athlete. 43 or 34 compatable.

    107. Hunter Bryant – TE – Washington – 6′-2″ 248 lbs. – Smooth moving, explosive pass catcher. Offers nothing in the way of blocking and his size won’t scare anyone.

    108. Larrell Murchison – IDL – NC State – 6′-2″ 297 lbs. – A nose for the ball with a great motor. Not the rangiest 3 tech, but he will apply constant pressure.

    109. Brandon Jones – S – Texas – 5′-11″ 198 lbs. – A smaller, tad more rangey version of Brooks. He is a thumper with an all-day motor, and a nose for the ball.

    110. Quartney Davis – WR – Texas A&M – 6′-1″ 201 lbs. – A skilled route runner with excellent footwork. Not slow, but not exactly a deep threat. hands are spotty.

    111. Jordan Elliott – IDL – Missouri – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Strong and bursty, he can cause havoc in the backfield. Easy mover with excellent hands. Not the fastest off the snap, timing issues slow him down.

    112. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    113. Amik Robertson – CB – Louisiana Tech – 5′-8″ 187 lbs. – slot corner due to his size. But he is a mean, physical little dude that will bring the fight to you.

    114. Lamical Perine – RB – Florida – 5′-11″ 216 lbs. – A patient power back with just enough juice to get to the house. Enough wiggle to get outside, but is at his best working north to south.

    115. Collin Johnson – WR – Texas – 6′-6″ 222 lbs. – Touted as the next Randy Moss, it didn’t happen, but he has good speed, wins with his size and is a contested catch, 50-50 ball machine. Size mismatch.

    116. Jabari Zuniga – Edge – Florida – 6′-3″ 253 lbs. – Decent burst, OK against the run, good athlete with range. Another boom bust prospect.

    117. Michael Pittman Jr. – WR – USC – 6′-4″ 223 lbs – Another physical WR that is starting to put everything together. Not a burner, but a good athlete with a great work ethic. A big Robert Woods.

    118. Kenny Willekes – Edge – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 264 lbs. – Relentless, tough, strong, try hard with average athletic ability for the position. I think due to that he is a 43 DE.

    119. Anthony McFarland – RB – Maryland – 5′-8″ 208 lbs. – An undersized, raw talented HR threat from anywhere on the field. Not a 3 down guy.

    120. Ben Bredeson – IOL – Michigan – 6′-5″ 315 lbs. – A LG prospect I love that has played in Gap/man/OSZ at Mich so he is versatile. Decent mover with good balance and very good power that looks to finish blocks.

    121. Shaquille Quarterman – LB – Miami – 6′-1″ 234 lbs. – A real old school MLBer that reads, reacts and then thumps. I think he moves well enough to help in some coverage.

    122. Damien Lewis – IOL – LSU – 6′-2″ 327 lbs. – Aggressive and powerful, lacks the lateral movement skills to work in a zone scheme. Will overwhelm you in man power.

    123. Antonio Gibson – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 223 lbs. – A wr/rb/do it all back with home run ability. Elusive with a bit of power. A jack of all trades, master of none.

    124. Evan Weaver – LB – California – 6′-2″ 237 lbs. – Not the world’s greatest athlete, but he is so instinctual he’s always around the ball. Super productive. Not a hammer and not great in coverage.

    125. Tyler Johnson – WR – Minnesota – 6′-1″ 206 lbs. – A nuanced route runner that knows how to get open. Plays with some physicality. I question his speed and he didn’t run so…

    126. Netane Muti – IOL – Fresno St. – 6′-3″ 315 lbs. – Skill set, power and movement ability should have him as the top IOL in the draft. he can flat out dominate. And looks to dominate you. Cannot stay healthy. Serious medical red flags.

    127. Willie Gay Jr. – LB – Miss. St. – 6′-2″ 243 lbs. – Athletic and quick, will pop you in the mouth. And he did punch his own QB in the face, so there is that. Could be a 3 down ILBer with some seasoning.

    128. AJ Dillon – RB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 247 lbs. – A bigger bodied back with more speed than one would think. A gap power fit. Loses a lot when stretched out east to west.

    129. Alex Highsmith – Edge – Charlotte – 6′-4″ 248 lbs. – Dynamic athlete off the edge with plenty of range, good flexibility and a great motor. Not the sturdiest run defender. 34 Edge.

    130. David Woodward – LB – Utah State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. -Not fast or super athletic, but he is smart, instinctual and has a big motor. He is everywhere. ILB

    131. Nick Harris – IOL – Washington – 6′-1″ 302 lbs. – Smaller, smooth moving OC that lacks the power to go heads up against any kind of power. Good technique. Zone scheme only.

    132. Shane Lemieux – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 310 lbs. – mauler, not an athlete. Choppy footwork. Works well in a man scheme.

    133. Nick Coe – Edge – Auburn – 6′-5″ 280 lbs. – Big, long and strong. Played from 2 and 3 point at Auburn. He is going to end up being a 34 End in the NFL. I question his passion for football.

    134. Jared Pinkney – Vanderbilt – 6′-4″ 257 lbs. – Great hands, good athlete, good enough blocker to play inline. Needs to cleanup route running. Not a monster after the catch.

    135. Ke’Shawn Vaughn – RB – Vanderbilt – 5′-10″ 214 lbs. – Decent vision with good balance and ok speed. Good pass catcher. Lacks wiggle and not explosive.

    136. Quintez Cephus – WR – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Wisconsin – Big strong physical. Good route runner that can get himself open. Lacks deep speed. Faced 2 counts of sexual assault, case was dismissed.

    137. Jason Strowbridge – IDL – North Carolina – 6′-4″ 275 lbs. – A gap jumper that lacks the size to hold his ground against double teams. Once he is into gaps, causes issues for the offense. A 34 DE or 43 DE is his future.

    138. Alton Robinson – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 264 lbs. – A toolbox full of length, athletic ability, bend and explosiveness. Decent against the run. Just needs to put it all together. 34 Edge with a high ceiling.

    139. Joe Bachie Jr. – LB – Michigan State – 6′-2″ 230 lbs. – a ILB with good instincts and decent range. Will pop you in the mouth when given the chance. Probably a 2 down ILBer in the NFL. Steroid suspension…

    140. Michael Ojemudia – CB – Iowa – 6′-1″ 200 lbs. – Great size for the position. Plays hard, plays smart and is always under control. Not the best athlete for a CB. Zone scheme.

    141. Solomon Kindley – IOL – Georgia – 6′-3″ 337 lbs. – Another mammoth Georgia lineman. A OG with beastly power that loves to use it. Again, needs a lot of technique work. His hand usage is a mess.

    142. Joshua Kelley – RB – UCLA – 5′-11″ 212 lbs. – Strong, tough with good balance and hard to bring down, but lacks wiggle and HR speed. A one cut and go type of back.

    143. Lynn Bowden – WR – Kentucky – 5′-11″ 204 lbs. – a gadget WR that can play RB and QB (wildcat) A real team guy that you will need to game plan to get the ball in his hands as he learns to be a slot WR.

    144. Logan Wilson – LB – Wyoming – 6′-2″ 241 lbs. – A easy flowing downhill ILBer with average athletic ability, plays with smarts and under control. Don’t think he has the range to cover on passing downs. 2 Down ILBer.

    145. K.J. Hill – WR – Ohio State – 6′-0″ 196 lbs. – A good route runner with decent ability in the open field. Not a burner, but not a slug either.

    146. Colby Parkinson – TE – Stanford – 6′-7 252 lbs. – Big with a big wingspan, he will torture defenders in the middle of the field and the endzone. Not a great blocker and needs to get stronger.

    147. Jack Driscoll – OT – Auburn – 6′-5″ 306 lbs. – A smaller RT with a good athletic profile. In other words. Perfect for a zone scheme only. Needs to add power and some technique work.

    148. Antonio Gandy-Golden – WR – Liberty – 6′-4″ 223 lbs. – Crazy catches are littered throughout his highlights. Outstanding catch radius combined with flypaper hands make him a bigtime contested and 50-50 ball receiver. Not a great athlete or burner.

    149. Darrynton Evans – RB – Appalachian State – 5′-10″ 203 lbs. – Lightning in a bottle. His change of direction and lateral jump cuts will have defenders tackling air. HR speed. Narrow frame with little room for growth. Better outside then inside. OZS committee back.

    150. J.R. Reed – S – Georgia – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – An old school SS that works best moving forward as he doesn’t have the foot speed to be ultra rangy.

    151. Harrison Bryant – TE -Florida Atlantic – 6′-5″ 243 lbs. – Athletic with good hands and is a good route runner. He isn’t a blocker. His calling card is in the middle of the field.

    152. Anfernee Jennings Edge – Alabama – 6′-2″ 256 lbs. – A strong, good run defender lacking the juice and athletic ability to be a consistent pass rusher. Is he a 43 DE or 34 Edge on early downs? Not pass rusher regardless.

    153. Javelin Guidry – CB – Utah – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – Quick, oily and super fast. Size is going to limit him to slot/nickel/dime work.

    154. Hakeem Adeniji – OT – Kansas – 6′-4″ 302 lbs. – Another smaller LT that moves well and could slide into a zone scheme easily. needs to add power.

    155. Jacob Breeland – TE – Oregon – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – An average at best athlete, but plays with an edge and isn’t afraid of contact. Good hands and can get deep. Decent inline blocker.

    156. Isaiah Hodgins – WR – Oregon State – 6′-4″ 210 lbs. – A good route runner for a man his size, good catch radius. Good hands. Not a deep threat.

    157. Geno Stone – S – Iowa – 5′-10″ 207 lbs. – Another kid from Iowa with smarts, instincts and lacks a big athletic profile. Works best in the box or zone coverage.

    158. Markus Bailey – LB – Purdue – 6′-1″ 235 lbs. – A Kiser clone in the fact that he is a smart. between the tackles, run stopping machine. Not enough athletic ability or speed to cover against the pass. 2019 knee injury muddies his water. 2 down ILB.

    159. Anthony Gordan – QB – Washington State – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – Tough leader with an OK arm. Air Raid muddies the water, but he can manage a football team.

    160. McTelvin Agim – IDL – Arkansas – 6′-3″ 309 lbs. – Strong off the snap with plenty of juice to shoot gaps and finish. Really losses interest playing the run. If you can get that turned around, you have a 310 man with rare athletic traits for that size.

    161. Josiah Deguara – TE – Cincinnati – 6′-2″ 242 lbs. – Good inline blocker regardless his size, is also a good route runner and pass catcher. Not a tremendous athlete, but is first team try hard TE. A balanced TE.

    162. Gabriel Davis – WR – UCF – 6′-2″ 216 lbs. – Exciting athlete with decent speed and plays with a bit of an edge. hands are meh, and he didn’t run a ton of different routes.

    163. D.J. Wonnum – Edge – South Carolina – 6′-5″ 258 lbs. – An above average athlete that can do a little of everything, but isn’t great at any one thing. Perfect size for 34 Edge with a great motor.

    164. Justin Strnad – LB – Wake Forest – 6′-3″ 238 lbs. – Smooth moving forward and backward, can run and cover and go sideline to sideline. Would rather run around blockers then stack and shed. Still learning the nuances so his arrow is pointing up. ILBer in an odd front or WILL in an even front.

    165. Raequan Williams – IDL – Michigan State – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – Not a great athlete, but is strong, can stack and hold his ground and when he does get in the backfield, he finishes well. Needs to get more consistent on effort.

    166. Terence Steele – OT – Texas Tech – 6′-6″ 312 lbs. – Great hands and a powerful upper body, needs some sand in his pants. More of a man blocking guy, as he lacks movement skills for zone.

    167. Myles Bryant – CB – Washington – 5′-8″ 183 lbs. – another slot CB, plays faster than he ran, explosive movement skills.

    168. Lamar Jackson – CB – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 208 lbs. – Big, long and physical. Speed will give him issues. Press man CB.

    169. Julian Blackmon – S – Utah – 6′-0″ 187 lbs. – Fun kid on tape. Plenty of speed and range, great physicality, but at the same time, not a tremendous athlete.

    170. Devin Duvernay – WR – Texas – 5′-10″ 200 lbs. – a speed demon that would rather run you over then around you. A RB in a WRs body. A smart OC can do alot of stuff with this kid. Small catch radius.

    171. Essang Bassey – CB – Wake Forest – 5′-9″ 191 lbs. – a nickel/slot CB that gets after it and is a smooth enough athlete to mirror really well.

    172. Charlie Heck – OT – North Carolina – 6′-8″ 311 lbs. – As Alyo has stated, the son of a coach. Smart, good technique and excellent length. Needs to add some weight and power. Great developmental type of L/RT.

    173. James Lynch – IDL – Baylor – 6′-4″ 289 lbs. – Monster sack production from a guy with not a ton of athletic ability. Not twitchy and not explosive. Just average strength. Really just wins on an all-day motor and a give ’em hell attitude.

    174. Trevis Gipson – Edge – Tulsa – 6′-4″ 261 lbs. – an easy mover with decent burst and good flexibility. Can get bullied against the run. Developmental 34 Edge.

    175. James Morgan – QB – FIU – 6′-4″ 229 lbs. – A toolsy gunslinger with no fear. Not sure he has the tools above the neck to be a pro QB.

    176. John Simpson – IOL – Clemson – 6′-4″ 321 lbs. – A power blocker that can get over-extended at times, but will run you over. Lacks horizontal movement ability. Man power scheme fit.

    177. A.J. Green – CB – Oklahoma State – 6′-1″ 202 lbs. – Physical CB, sometimes too physical. Decent speed and a decent athletic profile.

    178. Harrison Hand – CB – Temple – 5′-11″ 197 lbs. – Smart, tough and has some ballhawk to him. Not the quickest CB. Zone CB

    179. Jalen Elliott – S – Notre Dame – 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – Slow, moderate athlete, but man he loves to blow up ball carriers. IMO a box safety or a big nickel LBer.

    180. Mitchell Wilcox- TE – South Florida – 6′-3″ 247 lbs. – Hard working combo TE that had good production, but won’t wow you as an athlete. I worry a bit about his hands.

    181. Michael Onwenu – IOL – Michigan – 6′-3″ 344 lbs. – An absolute tank in the trenches. Surprisingly decent footwork. Great power. Not a great mover. Man scheme.

    182. Trevon Hill – Edge – Miami – 6′-3″ 248 lbs. – Athletic, bursty edge with a nice pass rush. Needs to add weight to handle the run. Pass rush specialist early. 34 Edge.

    183. Binjimen Victor – WR – Ohio State – 6′-4″ 198 lbs. – Another big catch radius guy with nice hands. Not a deep threat, but is kinda dangerous in the open field.

    184. Carter Coughlin – Edge – Minnesota – 6′-3″ 236 lbs. – an undersized 34 edge rusher with some burst and fluid movement skills. Cannot match power with anyone, and his run defending suffers from that.

    185. Josiah Scott – CB – Michigan State – 5′-9″ 185 lbs. – A nickel back with good speed and decent toughness for his size. Good ball skills. Too small to survive on the outside.

    186. Jonathan Garvin – Edge – Miami – 6′-4″ 263 lbs. – 43 DE that can set a strong edge and keep everything inside. Not a ton of burst, and average athletically. Decent pass rush on physical traits alone.

    187. Scott Frantz – OT – Kansas State – 6′-5″ 300 lbs. – Mauler strength and a maulers mentality. Not a great athlete and needs to add weight.

    188. – Patrick Taylor Jr. – RB – Memphis – 6′-1″ 217 lbs. – big, powerful and hard to bring down. Not great feet and not very imaginative with the ball. Short yardage back IMO.

    189. Khalil Davis – IDL – Nebraska – 6′-2″ 308 lbs. – Not real long, but a quick first step and a good motor is where he wins. Not a great run defender due to his lack of length.

    190. Myles Dorn – S – North Carolina – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – A decent all-around S with good work in the box and some solid pass defense stats. His lack of speed may limit his upside.

    191. Kendall Coleman – Edge – Syracuse – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – Average athlete that is really still developing his skill set. Good motor and plays with nice physicality. Needs to be developed. Developmental 34 Edge.

    192. Jake Hanson – IOL – Oregon – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – A zone scheme OC. A technician and good athlete, lacks the strength to trade power with defenders.

    193. Mykal Walker – LB – Fresno State – 6′-3″ 230 lbs. – Has played DE, Edge and ILB. So, he is a movable chess pc. I like him as an ILB in an odd front. Certainly knows how to blitz, can drop into coverage and will stick his nose in the fan in run support. Needs development time, due to so many position changes.

    194. Lavert Hill – CB – Michigan – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – A hard-nosed press man. Lacks speed to stay with the fast WRs. Might work inside. Man only.

    195. Cheyenne O’Grady – TE – Arkansas – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – A natural pass catcher with good route running. A willing blocker, although it isn’t a strength. Tough to bring down. His biggest issue is he was dismissed from the team for saying he was going to quit after the Bama game.

    196. – Michael Warren II – RB – Cincinnati – 5′-9″ 226 lbs. – Decent feet for his build (a bowling ball) with good power and contact balance. Not making you miss and isn’t a HR hitter. Another short yardage back IMO.

    197. Tanner Muse – S – Clemson – 6′-2″ 227 lbs. – A big S, maybe a LBer…4.41 speed, can play deep due to his speed and athleticism, can play in the box due to his size. Never put it all together for his profile.

    198. Aaron Parker – WR – Rhode Island – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – A good blend of physicality combines with his ability to go up and get it makes him a contested catch monster. He needs to develop his route running.

    199. Jacob Phillips – LB – LSU – 6′-4″ 229 lbs. – Great size, great production, but is lacking that toughness you want in a LBer. Good speed, but not exactly explosive. Plays with patience and under control. ILB or WILL

    200. Sewo Olonilua – RB – TCU – 6′-3″ 232 lbs. – Another short yardage specialist. Not fast, quick or nimble. He is a load to bring down and will wear you out.

    201. Kyle Murphy – IOL – Rhode Island – 6′-3″ 316 lbs. – Overpowered FCS competition, needs to add size and power to do that at the NFL level. He’s an easy mover with good footwork. Scheme versatile.

    202. Joe Reed – WR – Virginia – 6′-0″ 224 lbs. – A deep threat with good hands and can return in STs. Has some wiggle. Another gadget kid early as he learns to run routes properly.

    203. Stephen Sullivan – TE – LSU – 6′-5″ 248 lbs. – Massive seam buster that got lost in the shuffle of an all star offense. Long, middle of the field mismatch. Not a tremendous blocker.

    204. Benito Jones – IDL – Ole Miss – 6′-1″ 316 lbs. – a fire hydrant with very good strength. Won’t slide thru gaps but holds more than his own against the run. A true NT with a little pass rush push.

    205. Jaylinn Hawkins – S – California – 6′-1″ 208 lbs. – Smart, physical with some range. Not a ton and won’t wow you going sideline to sideline. Decent ball skills, but he has room for improvement.

    206. Trajan Bandy – CB – Miami – 5′-8″ 180 lbs. – Smooth footed DB that moves well in space and has OK speed. Lack of size and strength is an issue.

    207. Jauan Jennings – WR – Tennessee – 6′-3″ 215 lbs. – A runaway beer truck in the open field. Tough to bring down. Slow play speed and ran a 4.74 so that matches what you see.

    208. Davion Taylor – LB – Colorado – 6′-1″ 228 lbs. – Late comer to football. Kid is a PAC 12 track star, so he can fly, great athlete, smooth mover. Great motor. Needs to get stronger and needs massive development. WILL or ILB in a 34.

    209. Kyahva Tezino – LB – San Diego State – 6′-0″ 235 lbs. – Plays the run well, decent athlete that can get to the sidelines and plays with patience and intelligence. Lacks length and quickness.

    210. Devin Asiasi – TE – UCLA – 6′-3″ 257 lbs. – a combo blocker/receiver with good size for the position. Needs technical work in all aspects. Developmental type traditional TE.

    211. Jace Whittaker – CB – Arizona – 5′-11″ 185 lbs. – a ballhawk with good instincts and good speed. Not very physical and lacks great size.

    212. Colton McKivitz – OT – West Virginia – 6′-6″ 306 lbs. – Big, strong RT prospect that has issues against speed. Can get out over his feet when he lunges at targets.

    213. Dalton Keene – TE – Virginia Tech – 6′-4″ 253 lbs. – Here is your late round, H-back, fullback, TE. He can block and catch but was never really given much opportunity. Decent athlete, but plays like an old school TE.

    214. Kindle Vildor – CB – Georgia Southern – 5′-10″ 191 lbs. – Ballhawking athletic CB with the size and footwork to work in any scheme. Not great in run support. Can be over-aggressive.

    215. Stephen Guidry – WR – Mississippi State – 6′-3″ 201 lbs. – Long with long arms and decent deep speed. Can go up and get it, or win over the top. Not a great route runner.

    216. J.J. Taylor – RB – Arizona – 5′-5″ 185 lbs. – Scat back with good receiving skills. Plays fater then he ran, but obviously not a between the tackles type.

    217. James Robinson – RB – Illinois State – 5′-9″ 219 lbs. – A hammer that did it all for ISU. Surprising speed can catch you off guard. not very shifty.

    218. Justin Herron – OT – Wake Forest – 6′-4″ 308 lbs. – A OG in the NFL. Good pass blocker with decent footwork, has trouble trading power in the run game. Zone scheme OG.

    219. Reggie Robinson II – CB – Tulsa – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – Long with decent athletic profile, does his best work in a zone and things are in front of him. Nice production. Modest athlete.

    220. Tyrie Cleveland – WR – Florida – 6′-2″ 209 lbs. – Long and fast. Never ran a diverse route tree, but he can eat up a DB in a hurry. Will need some development.

    221. Jon Runyan – OT – Michigan – 6′-4″ 306 lbs. – I think he moves inside to OG. Son of an NFL OT. So he is smart. Good athlete but lacks strength. zone scheme OG.

    222. Tipa Galea’i – EDGE – Utah State – 6′-5″ 235 lbs. – An explosive, oily, easy mover. Needs to add mass if he wants to hold up against the run.

    223. Nigel Warrior – S – Tennessee – 6′-0″ 190 lbs. – Vols played him everywhere from what I saw. So he can do some of everything. Good athlete, good run defender for hsi size. Lack of ball production is a concern.

    224. Nevelle Clarke – CB – UCF – 6′-1″ 190 lbs. – I called him a mini Ramsey. Plays with a swagger and a ballhawks mentality. Great size for a CB. Easy mover. Needs to add strength and some weight to reach his full potential.

    225. Salvon Ahmed – RB – Washington – 5′-11″ 197 lbs. – Long speed despite what he ran at the combine. Decent wiggle in the open field. Due to size, a 3rd down back only. Lacks power and vision.

    226. James Proche – WR – SMU – 5′-11″ 201 lbs. – Natural hands and just catches everything. Smooth athlete, with great college production. Not a burner. Needs to work on route running.

    227. Cameron Brown – LB – Penn State – 6′-5″ 233 lbs. – Long for a LBer. Also raw. Can cover a ton of ground quickly and goes sideline to sideline. Not great in coverage. Not sure his position fit. 43 OLB or maybe add 15-20 lbs and make him a 34 edge?

    228. Sean McKeon – TE – Michigan – 6′-5″ 242 lbs. – A combo TE that can block in line and be used as a pass catcher. Not the most dynamic route runner, or athlete, but he competes hard. Good 3rd TE for a roster.

    229. Cole McDonald – QB – Hawaii – 6′-3″ 215 lbs. – An absolute howitzer of an arm. Good NFL size. A rhythm passer that loves getting the ball deep. Everything breaks down once he is off schedule.

    230. Quez Watkins – WR – Southern Miss – 6′-0″ 185 lbs. – Will take the top off a defense. No idea how to run a route, gets open from DBs being scared of being ran by. Electric in the open field. Needs to add some good weight.

    231. Bravvion Roy – IDL – Baylor – 6′-1″ 333 lbs. – Not your typical NT. He can dominate against the run, but has some juice to get after the QB (6 sacks this year) Short length will limit his upside.

    232. Kamal Martin – LB – Minnesota – 6′-3″ 240 lbs. – A 34 ILB that fills that downhill run plugger role that is tight hipped and lacks the range to work 3 downs. Will stick you when given the chance.

    233. Grayland Arnold – CB – Baylor – 5′-9″ 186 lbs. – Nickel CB with great ball production. Smooth lower body makes him sticky, has a ballhawk mentality. Lacks size to hold up on the outside.

    234. Trey Adams – OT – Washington – 6′-8″ 318 lbs. – Power blocking scheme only, once a top 25 pick, now maybe undraftable due to multiple injuries. Carries bad weight. A better athlete then mauler so his skill set doesn’t match his power (or lack thereof)

    235. Charlie Taumoepeau – TE – Portland State – 6′-2″ 240 lbs. – Literally a move TE. He played H-back, RB, TE, WR for Portland State. So he can block and catch and be a nice depth piece. Nothing athletically extrordinary.

    236. Darryl Williams – IOL – Mississippi State – 6′-2″ 304 lbs. – A OG/OC prospect with decent power and good technique. Needs to add some power. A tad stiff movement wise. Developmental depth for a power blocking team.

    237. Tyler Clark – IDL – Georgia – 6′-4″ 300 lbs. – nice get off with good hand usage to keep himself clean. Kinda frenetic, and will wash himself out at times. Good power.

    238. Levonta Taylor – CB – Florida State – 5′-10″ 190 lbs. – a CB turned safety, smooth lower half and good speed and lack of strength make him an ideal zone fit, either as a nickel or S. had back problems in the past.

    239. Kalija Lipscomb – WR – Vanderbilt – 6′-0″ 207 lbs. – Good route runner with reliable hands. Just an OK athlete and not a burner.

    240. Tyler Huntley – QB – Utah – 6′-1″ 205 lbs. – A real athlete with the ball in his hands. Can scramble, throw on the run and generally work his way around in the pocket. Accuracy is OK. Pretty good arm strength. I don’t think he can read a defense yet.

    241. Stanford Samuels III – CB – Florida State – 6′-1″ 187 lbs. – Long and a bit clumsy. Would be a good zone CB with some developmental upside.

    242. Robert Landers – IDL – Ohio State – 6′-1″ 285 lbs. – A 34 DE that lacks the usual length. Strong with a good burst. Decent athlete. At his best in a straight line.

    243. Shyheim Carter – S – Alabama – 5′-10″ 194 lbs. – A CB/S that was used as a hybrid 3rd safety for the Tide. Could be a movable piece in the secondary. Not overly fast or athlete. Declined to test at the combine reinforcing that idea.

    244. Freddie Swain – WR – Florida – 6′-0″ 197 lbs. – Good athlete with good hands and good speed. Not a very nuanced route runner and lacked college production. Punt returner bonus.

    245. Mohamed Barry – LB – Nebraska – 6′-1″ 245 lbs. – A bull in a china shop ILBer with sideline to sideline athleticism. Tough and strong just kinda running around out there hitting things and overrunning other things…

    246. John Reid – CB – Penn State – 5′-10″ 187 lbs. – A physical press man CB that due to lack of size will end up being a Nickel Back. Average speed to match his average athletic ability.

    247. Jordan Fuller – S – Ohio State – 6′-2″ 203 lbs. – A single high safety that is too slow to play single high in the NFL IMO. Racked up a ton of tackles and loves to hit. I like him as a depth/3rd safety with plenty of upside in the box.

    248. Darius Anderson – RB – TCU – 5′-10″ 208 lbs. – A tough little runner with plenty of takeoff, lacks the top end to be a HR threat and lacks the size to be a between that tackles guy.

    249. Derrek Tuszka – Edge – North Dakota St. – 6′-5″ 251 lbs. – A 43 end that will transition to a standup 34 edge. Tough, strong and can hold up vs the run. Great pass rush production. Decent athlete, but lacks flexibility to bend around the edge.

    250. Rodrigo Blankenship – K – Georgia – 6′-1″ 197 lbs. – He kicks footballs and I love his nerd glasses. I dare you to find that kind of draft analysis anywhere but here. LOL

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    pre-game analysis of the Senior Bowl

    So, some really interesting standouts … WRs and OTs … we will be able to get an OT at 52 I believe. Maybe even one that could start if Noteboom needs more time, one that may even take his place. Barely any D line Players were winning one on one reps … save Marlon Davidson and bull rushes by Kinlaw. And basically zero good reps from CBs against these WRs.

    Fotu and Aiyuk have medical red flags.

    Gonna give you heads up on these guys as much as possible … still watching practice but have 2 out of 3 down ..

    My targets will be in bold.

    NORTH
    Notre Dame Troy Pride Jr. CB IND athlete that is proving he can play CB … He never really flashed but I may have missed it.

    Iowa Michael Ojemudia CB Big Ten Like this kid, have for years … but I feel like he’s a little stiff. Needs a good jam.

    Nebraska Lamar Jackson CB Big Ten Big kid, little handsy.

    Wake Forest Essang Bassey CB ACC Really underrated so Im glad he got a shot here. Slot corner.

    Utah Terrell Burgess DB Pac-12 I have liked Utah DBs forever … better in games than in practice.

    Minnesota Carter Coughlin DE Big Ten Weighed in small .. haven’t seen him on the practice field. He is a relentless rusher but he needs to test well at the combine.

    Michigan Josh Metellus DS Big Ten He just doesn’t flash that much for me.

    Michigan Khaleke Hudson DS Big Ten I like him for special teams, that’s it.

    Notre Dame Jalen Elliott DS IND

    California Ashtyn Davis DS Pac-12 Skipped his bowl game then got a medical red flag. He was a leader and I have good tape on him, but his post season has been sloppy.

    Southern Illinois Jeremy Chinn DS FCS haven’t seen him yet.

    Notre Dame Alohi Gilman DS IND Another golden domer never jumped out during the year.

    North Carolina State Larrell Murchison DT ACC This kis is odd sized and might just be a 5 tech … inconsistent flashes.

    Oklahoma Neville Gallimore DT Big 12 Everyone else likes him more than I do.

    Utah Leki Fotu DT Pac-12 My target for the nose hopefully slides to round 3.

    Nebraska Darrion Daniels DT Big Ten Followed him around his career … Don’t think he really fully developed

    Ohio State DaVon Hamilton DT Big Ten Bigger than I thought weighing in at 317.

    Michigan Joshua Uche EDGE Big Ten Loved his tape this year and think of him exactly like the USC kid two years ago (last year?)

    North Carolina Jason Strowbridge EDGE ACC Standard powerful 7 tech run stopping DE in a 4-3. Not flashy but should have a good career.

    Syracuse Alton Robinson EDGE ACC

    Miami Trevon Hill EDGE ACC Followed him around through VTech to Miami, where he did okay. He flashed a few times … weighed in small.

    Utah Bradlee Anae EDGE Pac-12 Having a good week, and Ive liked his myriad of moves, and sometimes he can’t be stopped.

    Michigan State Kenny Willekes EDGE Big Ten Love his motor. Doubt he tests well enough.

    California Evan Weaver ILB Pac-12 Love this kid. Think he gets underdrafted even if he runs well.

    Ohio State Malik Harrison ILB Big Ten Physically he’s a big deal. I like him.

    Utah Francis Bernard ILB Pac-12 Not as good as the kids last year, but worth a backup spot.

    Wyoming Logan Wilson LB MWC backup.

    Iowa State Steve Wirtel LS Big 12

    Washington Nick Harris OC Pac-12 2nd round OC … heavy hands.

    Ohio State Jonah Jackson OG Big Ten The Oline in this game is killing the D line.

    Michigan Ben Bredeson OG Big Ten Should be a round 2 guy.

    Temple Matt Hennessy OL AAC One of my targets … late 4th round may slide … He handled Penn State kids just fine.

    Wisconsin Zack Baun OLB Big Ten Might be my target at 52 if he’s still there. My guess is he runs well enough to go in the first.

    Connecticut Matt Peart OT AAC UConn is a mess, but I have his name on my list so Im watching him close.

    West Virginia Colton McKivitz OT Big 12 Interesting Durant at the East West and the ORT here …

    Houston Josh Jones OT AAC I liked him at Houston but wanted to see him in one on ones and he’s really good. Any chance he makes 52? Doubt it.

    Wake Forest Justin Herron OT ACC I like that guys I picked out over the years are showing up here and balling. Herron can play.

    North Carolina Charlie Heck OT ACC I called this guy at the beginning of the year … he may need a year of strength training but his dad is a coach and he’s 6-7 310 with really smooth feet and bend.

    Kansas Hakeem Adeniji OT Big 12 Not a big fan .. curious to see him tomorrow.

    Georgia Southern Tyler Bass PK Sun Belt
    Texas A&M Braden Mann PT SEC

    Michigan Shea Patterson QB Big Ten Never been a fan.

    Washington State Anthony Gordon QB Pac-12 Throws a good ball. Had a good year.

    Utah State Jordan Love QB MWC The sweetheart riser of this year …

    UCLA Joshua Kelley RB Pac-12 Emotional leader, underrated runner … definitely a target to take Malcolm’s spot. 6th round? RBs slide.

    Baylor JaMycal Hasty RB Big 12 Serious burst and strength … has been overlooked alllll year. 6th?

    TCU Darius Anderson RB Big 12 has speed … change of pace smaller back. not “small” just “smaller”

    Dayton Adam Trautman TE FCS This kid got my attention in one rep. Draft and train.

    Portland State Charlie Taumoepeau TE FCS 6-2 … not a TE.

    Michigan Sean McKeon TE Big Ten as a 3rd TE to draft in the 6th or 7th? Maybe.

    Purdue Brycen Hopkins TE Big Ten He’s on everyone’s radar so he’ll go early.

    SMU James Proche WR AAC Slot kid. Catches everything.

    USC Michael Pittman Jr. WR Pac-12 Probably the head of the best Senior Bowl WR class Ive seen. Tall AND fast,

    Baylor Denzel Mims WR Big 12 Will be underrated … Sneaky speed and can get deep.

    Ohio State KJ Hill WR Big Ten Having a great week. Great route runner.

    Liberty Antonio Gandy-Golden WR FBS Little challenged by bigger competition, but I like his moves, draft and train? 6-4 223

    Notre Dame Chase Claypool WR IND Better route runner than I thought and better hands … 6-4 229.

    Texas A&M Quartney Davis WR SEC Kid can haul. I don’t know why Jimbo Fisher doesn;t get the most of his WRs … but this kid can play.

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    Georgia Southern Kindle Vildor CB Sun Belt Underwhelming this week. Tough gigs against giant WRs, but still.

    Pittsburgh Dane Jackson CB ACC Probably my favorite here tied with the next guy

    Oklahoma State A.J. Green CB Big 12 Had Ceedee Lamb duty. Holding up fine against these big Wrs.

    UCLA Darnay Holmes DB Pac-12 Think the Pitt slot that’s on Philly now.

    Tulsa Reggie Robinson II DB AAC Having a rough time against the speed.

    Auburn Marlon Davidson DE SEC Best at one on ones … showed up at 297.

    Florida Jabari Zuniga DE SEC Getting shut down in one on ones, I didn’t think he had that great of a year.

    Tulsa Trevis Gipson DE AAC the OTs are just really good. Gipson is BIG and is used to that being enough.

    Clemson K’Von Wallace DS ACC Had some great reps in coverage. I know him as a hitter.

    Alabama Jared Mayden DS SEC Meh.

    Lenoir Rhyne Kyle Dugger DS SAC Need to see more.

    Mississippi State Brian Cole II DS SEC I liked him, likely backup.

    Maryland Antoine Brooks Jr. DS Big Ten Thumper special teamer.

    South Carolina Javon Kinlaw DT SEC Monster … 6-6 325 and can play with leverage and get you on your heels real fast. Maybe the top pick form this game.

    Ole Miss Benito Jones DT SEC I have watched this kid’s whole career. He can anchor, and if you sleep on him he will eat your lunch. 6-1 329.

    Ole Miss Josiah Coatney DT SEC Better mover but I like him at 5 tech even at 317 because of his length.

    Penn State Robert Windsor DT Big Ten I don’t have this guy on my list?

    Tennessee Darrell Taylor Jr. EDGE SEC Liked him during the year …

    South Carolina D.J. Wonnum EDGE SEC Regressed some …

    Florida Jonathan Greenard EDGE SEC Expected him better in one on ones. But the OTs may really be that good.

    Alabama Anfernee Jennings ILB SEC Remembered him a s abetter pass rusher.

    South Carolina T.J. Brunson ILB SEC Good not great.

    Alabama Terrell Lewis LB SEC Got better this year at rushing.

    LSU Blake Ferguson LS SEC

    Kentucky Logan Stenberg OG SEC Love him. Tape and this week.

    Clemson John Simpson OG ACC Like this clemson O lineman

    Saint John’s Ben Bartch OG Division III Who is this kid? OT who just buried everyone. He didn’t lose a rep I saw.

    LSU Damien Lewis OL SEC Gets a bit manhandled … my memory is that he works better in a group.

    Clemson Tremayne Anchrum OL ACC Not a fan.

    San Diego State Keith Ismael OL MWC Is he strong enough? I like his play.

    LSU Lloyd Cushenberry III OL SEC Glad he declared, definitely watching. Holding his own, even against Kinlaw.

    Colorado Davion Taylor OLB Pac-12 Run and chase will.

    Appalachian State Akeem Davis-Gaither OLB Sun Belt See above.

    Penn State Cameron Brown OLB Big Ten Big rangy kid … 6-5 238 …

    Auburn Prince Tega Wanogho OT SEC Med red flag?

    South Carolina St. Alex Taylor OT FCS Again, this kids all looked good this week.

    Texas Tech Terence Steele OT Big 12 Stunned by him in one on ones. Did amazing … I don;t know if anyone else helped themselves as much in the one on ones.

    Mississippi State Tyre Phillips OT SEC Slow footed heavy handed.

    Georgia Rodrigo Blankenship PK SEC
    South Carolina Joseph Charlton PT SEC

    Colorado Steven Montez QB Pac-12 I think he’ll be a solid backup. Big frame with wheels.

    Oklahoma Jalen Hurts QB Big 12 I think he’s being undervalued, like Dak. He’s stronger and more durable, and a better passer than I feel anyone thinks. He’s been througha lot, a leader, really likeable guy. I see more Donovan McNabb given his improvements in passing.

    Oregon Justin Herbert QB Pac-12 Just an NFL QB. I take him at 7 if Im the Chargers.

    Vanderbilt Ke’Shawn Vaughn RB SEC These RBs are all tough. And oddly all “can” break away

    Florida Lamical Perine RB SEC Will run away from you or through you.

    Arizona State Eno Benjamin RB Pac-12 For me he has too many miles on the chassis.

    Memphis Antonio Gibson RB AAC I like his teammate better.

    LSU Stephen Sullivan TE SEC Don’t sleep in this guy. Converted WR.

    Vanderbilt Jared Pinkney TE SEC Kid was my top coming into this year and had an off year … if he slides IM all over him for our 3rd TE (I want two TE sets all game)

    Cincinnati Josiah Deguara TE AAC Hback 6-2

    Florida Atlantic Harrison Bryant TE C-USA Another high end TE that could get lost in the 3-5 round mix after the first guys come off the board.

    Ohio State Austin Mack WR Big Ten I want more out of him, but he’s not bad. Just never seemed to fully “launch”

    Vanderbilt Kalija Lipscomb WR SEC Powerful WR with better route running abiity than I expected.

    Texas Collin Johnson WR Big 12 Kid is pretty nimble and a good route runner for his size.

    Tennessee Jauan Jennings WR SEC Monster. He ran the wild cat in the SEC. Most broken tackles and yards after contact.

    Florida Van Jefferson WR SEC Great route runner, son of NFL WR coach

    Texas Devin Duvernay WR Big 12 My favorite pick would be this guy at the end of the 3rd or mid fourth. Track star. 6-0 215. Runs realllllly angry. Can run by or through you.

    Arizona State Brandon Aiyuk WR Pac-12 Med red flag but likley second rounder.

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    Rich Eisen, who I like to listen to sometimes, mainly because he’s not a ‘shouter,’
    made me ill this morning. I doubt if i ever think of him the same way again.

    Remember that video of the MSM ‘news’ person who went all-ecstatic and misty-eyed-poetic over the sight of American Military bombings or some such airborn-militarism?
    I forget who that was.

    But this morning Rich Eisen was telling a story about how proud he was of his young boy because he stopped playing nerf football when the Star Spangled Banner was being played during a tv-game, and then Eisen went on to get all misty-eyed-poetic about what he called ‘patriotism’ and the sight of an American Stealth Bomber flying overhead at a stadium.

    Gag me.

    I’m movin in with Zooey, in Thai-land. Or Mongolia, or Bangladesh, or Ukraine or Portland Maine or wherever we’re goin.

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