Two views of James Laurinaitis

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  • #4223
    wv
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    There has never been any real
    consensus among Ram fans
    on the value of JamesL.

    Still isn’t.

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    Deadpool
    for all the talk about the Ramtastic 4 this offseason and the 60 sacks this defense can possibly generate, for me it all starts and ends with the MLB. He is responsible for getting everyone on the same page and setting the tone for the defense.

    I know there are some on this board that prefer a more physical MLB (Blacksheep comes to mind ) and that’s fine. I love a good thumper as much as the next guy. But being a MLB in today’s NFL is a lot more then lining up and blowing up RBs in the hole. Its the little stuff no one likes to talk about because it isn’t sexy or exciting. JL moving a DL 2 ft to the left and he makes a tackle for a loss and the only thing mentioned is what a great play Brockers made. Not the fact that if not for JL moving him over he doesn’t make that play. Or adjusting the LBers and one of them bats down a pass. Great play by ‘tree. Sure it was, but I’m glad JL recognized something and had the defense adjust.
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    Laram
    I hate to comment in opposition of such a fine post Dead…but I can’t help myself.

    The plays come in from the sidelines and JL relays them. He does need to know the plays and where those beside him and in front of him line up. So basically he’s making sure that 7 players are in the right alignment according to the play call.

    That does take a certain level of understanding of concepts and recognition. But it ain’t rocket science.

    J-lau doesn’t have to look at an offense and call a play. I don’t know that he ever audibles on defense. That I don’t know.

    But here is the problem for me and the issue I have with J-lau.

    Look down through years of every good/great defense against the run, and they all had great mike play.

    The Rams have been BAD against the run for as long as J-lau has been here.

    I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
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    Deadpool

    ….here are some interesting defensive numbers from last year:

    Yards per rushing attempt: 3.74 good for 3rd best behind the Jets and Cardinals. League average was 4.17

    Yards per pass: tied with Miami for 14th at 10.91. League average is 10.90

    [www.oddsshark.com]

    StL was ran against 1646 times, Seattle was ran against 1626 times. StL defense gave up 102.9 yards per game. Seattle 101.6.

    StL ended up being 9th in rushing yards per game. Seattle in a tie for 7th with Denver…

    StL was 19th in passing yards/game at 242.1. Seattle was first at 172. SF was 7th at 221, Arizona was 14th at 233.

    [espn.go.com]

    I was surprised by these numbers TBH. At least against the run. And teams ran the ball against the Rams. 27.5 per game on average or about 20th. Defenses were ran against on average 27.13 times a game.
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    Laram
    Yes in the second half the Rams got much better against the run. I posted some of those numbers in defense of Walton vs the previous year, so I’m with you there.

    BUT..

    175 yds to Demarco Murray
    141 yds to Foster (He had 100 in 1st qtr)
    150 yds to Chris Johnson

    Do you see a theme there? Good rb’s good days.
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    #4226
    zn
    Moderator

    JL calls shifts too in reaction to different fronts.

    And some look at the glass as half full and some see it as broken, shattered, with pieces spread all over the kitchen (don’t let the dog in the kitchen). (That;s just me teasing.)

    In the 2nd half of the season last year the run D settled down and in both yards and YPC was 1st in the league. That includes games against Seattle and SF.

    You can’t say one thing tells us what they are and the other doesn’t. You have to figure out why it’s both things, last year. Or why it was first one than the other. Cause they are certainly capable of what they did after the Tenn. game.

    #4231
    InvaderRam
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    i think there’s something to jimitroutboy’s comments about the wide 9 being a horrible scheme. there were just huge lanes for these running backs to run through yesterday. and even week 1.

    or maybe laurinaitis and brockers are just that valuable. we’ll see. a little early. if the rams could upgrade laurinaitis, i’d be all for it. but i also understand what he brings to the table. still would like an intimidator there. rams seem to lack a lot of physicality at the linebacker position. but at this point it might be a lot of nitpicking.

    #4232
    zn
    Moderator

    i think there’s something to jimitroutboy’s comments about the wide 9 being a horrible scheme. there were just huge lanes for these running backs to run through yesterday. and even week 1.

    or maybe laurinaitis and brockers are just that valuable. we’ll see. a little early. if the rams could upgrade laurinaitis, i’d be all for it. but i also understand what he brings to the table. still would like an intimidator there. rams seem to lack a lot of physicality at the linebacker position. but at this point it might be a lot of nitpicking.

    The wide 9 doesn’t work unless the LBs and safeties know what they’re doing, and do it.

    #4234
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    well maybe that’s where james comes in. sure looks ugly when it isn’t being run right.

    #4243
    zn
    Moderator

    well maybe that’s where james comes in. sure looks ugly when it isn’t being run right.

    To be fair, some teams that were running it have dumped it.

    #4283
    Mackeyser
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    Makes sense to to run a wide 9 against a no back set especially if the QB isn’t a running QB.

    Other than that, I don’t like it. Screws up gaps.

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