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  • #118772
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    I am not that excited about the new Dune. It has already been done twice. I would rather see the rest of the Dune books made into movies.

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    #118774
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    In looking over this ‘greatest sci fi’ list at NPR, it dont look like there’s many notable NEW Sci-Fi stories. At least not with the NPR crowd.

    NPR:https://www.npr.org/2011/08/11/139085843/your-picks-top-100-science-fiction-fantasy-books

    I thought Carl Sagan’s Contact was a decent movie, btw. It’s no.50 on the list.

    A very very under-rated book, imho, btw, fwiw, fyi, is — The Last Unicorn. There’s so many beautiful poetic sentences in that fantasy book. No.55 on the list.

    I wouldnt mind seeing Le Guin’s Dispossessed made into a big film. No.78.
    Also, Perdido Street Station might make a good film. No.98

    I didnt even know C.S. Lewis wrote a Sci Fi book. No.100.

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    #118777
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    In looking over this ‘greatest sci fi’ list at NPR, it dont look like there’s many notable NEW Sci-Fi stories. At least not with the NPR crowd.

    NPR:https://www.npr.org/2011/08/11/139085843/your-picks-top-100-science-fiction-fantasy-books

    I thought Carl Sagan’s Contact was a decent movie, btw. It’s no.50 on the list.

    A very very under-rated book, imho, btw, fwiw, fyi, is — The Last Unicorn. There’s so many beautiful poetic sentences in that fantasy book. No.55 on the list.

    I wouldnt mind seeing Le Guin’s Dispossessed made into a big film. No.78.
    Also, Perdido Street Station might make a good film. No.98

    I didnt even know C.S. Lewis wrote a Sci Fi book. No.100.

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    What are the best sci fi films? I include dystopian in this because IMO dystopian is a subset of Sci Fi.

    I will do “favorites” not “best.” I leave a lot out that way. Not in ranked order, off the top of my head I would have to include 2001, Bladerunner, Rollerball, Alien, Children of Men, Snowpiercer, The Day the Earth Stood Still (original version), Repo Man, Close Encounters, The Thing, The Martian.

    #118864
    Mackeyser
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    I have strong feelings on this.

    I really thought that what Raffaela DeLaurentiis tried to produce with David Lynch was fucking AMAZING.

    The problem is that both her and Lynch with Frank Herbert’s blessing sought to “remake the Space Opera”. So they made a 5 hour and 30 minute epic. This was many, many years before serialization would become standard and other than Star Wars, Rocky and the Godfather, there weren’t many pathways for in depth story telling as opposed to now where it’s almost a shame for super deep, culturally rich universes to be confined to sub 3 hour runtimes.

    Dino, Raffaela’s father, who ran the family production business, refused to hear anything about it and insisted that the movie be but from 5:30 to 2:30… after it was all shot.

    This is why the movie is ultimately a series of vignettes and not a complete movie. I’m on record (and the wife knows this) that if that 5:30 epic were ever to be released (impossible as I believe the negatives on the cutting room floor were destroyed and nothing survives of the original 5:30 cut), I would pay an OBSCENE amount of money…to me, anyway… to own it.

    There is no questioning that many of the visuals are what the author had in mind… he was the co-writer with David Lynch of the script.

    I have no doubt that many of the visuals in the upcoming movie will have to be similar if for no other reason than they were so fantastic.

    Much improvement can be made, of course, but Dune was the thing I was most looking forward to until AppleTV announced Foundation.

    Live I’ve said before… I don’t think if I wrote a sci-fi epic of a number of novels that I would even consider cinema. The studio is gonna screw you and with episodic streaming, they can spend the time to delve deeply into meaningful characters and moments.

    I’m actually kinda sad that my favorite sci-fi, Dune, is going to be confined by a movie’s run time.

    I think that alone makes Foundation the bigger winner in my book.

    That said, it may be the first movie I go see post COVID… presuming we all survive the second wave…

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    #118868
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    I have strong feelings on this.

    I really thought that what Raffaela DeLaurentiis tried to produce with David Lynch was fucking AMAZING.

    The problem is that both her and Lynch with Frank Herbert’s blessing sought to “remake the Space Opera”. So they made a 5 hour and 30 minute epic.

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    I had never heard that. Wow.

    I’ve always thought the biggest problem with that movie was it was too short, undeveloped. The movie was like the last episode of Game of Thrones. Rushed through everything.

    That would have been great, had it been five hours.

    I never did get used to the music in the film though.

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    #120725
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    Well…..based on that clip, i have a bad feeling about it. Looks like another version of the Avengers.

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    #120726
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    Well…..based on that clip, i have a bad feeling about it. Looks like another version of the Avengers.

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    My question is, what do sandworms eat.

    They are really big and there can’t be a whole lot of foodstuffs wandering around out on the desert.

    At least on earth blue whales have krill.

    That’s a cruel trick of evolution–to make you this gigantic creature who lives in desert sands, where nothing edible would venture.

    #120746
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    Well…..based on that clip, i have a bad feeling about it. Looks like another version of the Avengers.

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    My question is, what do sandworms eat.

    They are really big and there can’t be a whole lot of foodstuffs wandering around out on the desert.

    At least on earth blue whales have krill.

    That’s a cruel trick of evolution–to make you this gigantic creature who lives in desert sands, where nothing edible would venture.

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    Ya know. There’s this thing called the Internet. You can search “what do worms eat?

    “Types of Foods for Composting Worms
    “…worms love fruits and vegetables from your kitchen and garden. Save your left-over, spoilt organic matter, peelings, and cores for the worms. They also like tea bags, bread, pasta, grains, shredded black print newspaper, coffee grounds, and hair”

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    #120747
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    a know. There’s this thing called the Internet. You can search “what do worms eat?”

    “Types of Foods for Composting Worms
    “…worms love fruits and vegetables from your kitchen and garden. Save your left-over, spoilt organic matter, peelings, and cores for the worms. They also like tea bags, bread, pasta, grains, shredded black print newspaper, coffee grounds, and hair”

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    I do all that. And it;s what allows me to harvest spice.

    Without spice, I would not have the ability to fold space.

    Though admittedly I haven’t actually tried to fold space yet. What if I can’t fold it back the way it was? Then Jupiter suddenly occupies Mercury’s orbit. It could be a real gawdamm mess.

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    #120945
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    it shoulda been done like maclachlan said as a series.

    one of my favorite sci fi series is evangelion. 26 episodes.

    if they ever tried to cram it all into one movie or even two. it’d be a disaster.

    #121211
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    I have only read the first Dune book. I tried to start the 2nd one earlier this year, and i just didnt grab me. But i do know that one of the main themes Frank Herbert played with was the notion that there aint no saviors. Charismatic Messiah’s are dangerous. Paul was ‘not’ a hero to Frank Herbert. David Lynch’s movie only dealt with the first book, so its understandable that the Paul character is kindof a hero during that movie. But if there had been a continuation of movies, Paul’s dark side would have been shown as his Jihad-war spread across the universe.
    Thats my feeble understanding anyway.
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    #121244
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    from the wiki

    Weapon of Choice (song)

    The lines “Walk without rhythm/and it won’t attract the worm” quote the science fiction novel Dune, while the line “tone of my voice” may be the titular weapon, as used by some of the novel’s characters.

    #121555
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    “industrial cinema” — i like the term.

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    #121746
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    Weapon of Choice (song)

    The lines “Walk without rhythm/and it won’t attract the worm” quote the science fiction novel Dune

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