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Hey thanks. Closing in on a half century.
Greeeaaaaatttttttt…..
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantThe more man meditates upon good thoughts, the better will be his world & the world at large. -Confucius
— Ancient Proverbs (@AncientProverbs) January 13, 2014
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr SeussAugust 28, 2015 at 9:52 pm in reply to: Tucker and Cosell on the qbs week 2 … including of course Foles #29479— X —ParticipantYou have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantIf certain people *want* to continue to have the flag represent Southern Pride (or whatever non-hurtful thing they believe), they should be permitted to without being chastised about how insensitive or ignorant they are. So yeah, communication is key to all of this going forward. No one person or group should ever be allowed to dictate what another person or group should adopt as their own personal principles or beliefs. Talk about it and see if an understand can be had. And if an understand can’t be reached, then leave it alone. You tried.
This is where conflict is inevitable, though, because the thing is in itself divisive. People who believe in benign heritage of course have a right, but so do the people for whom the flag is a reminder of slavery and the anti-desegregation stuff from the 40s and 50s. We don’t get anywhere if one side or the other is silenced, right? So I guess on this, I just say, expect conflict.
Like I said elsewhere, my wife is from Texas. She’s the daughter of a good ole boy fire fighter (whom I knew…Warren. Fisherman, hunter, and also band leader on occasion, for classic jazz bands. I actually inherited Warren’s pick-up truck when he died.) My wife won’t even discuss any of this, it just automatically makes her angry. She, like virtually everyone, is not advocating banning the thing, but the states flying it? Makes her angry. I can’t get into nuanced discussions with her–I get her heavy Texas accent going “just take the damm thing down!” I know a lot of southerners like that…many of the things I post come from facebook, where I maintain contact with friends from all over, including Louisiana, Texas, and North Carolina.
So it really is a complex thing.
So complex that the way I see it, asking people who are offended by the history of the c.f. not to be offended is really no different from asking people who see it habitually as a benign pride thing to change. It really is a multi-edged sword.
It really is as deep as the real divisions between us, some of which granted are not based in malice and bad intentions.
So I just agree with Rev. Pinckney: “Across the South we have a deep appreciation of history. We haven’t always had a deep appreciation of each other’s history.”
Though I am not a southerner, even if I am no stranger to parts of the south, so I will just amend that to “in america.”
It’s a tricky business discussing all this, and, many do it better than I do. I’ve done okay sometimes. Not often enough.
Well I think for the most part we see eye-to-eye on this. You basically said what I said, in that both “sides” to the freedom of expression and/or belief quandary surrounding the flag should just live their lives believing and expressing what they want without being told they’re wrong. I know where you are on this, because I’ve read everything you posted about it. I think you’d like for everyone who has any affinity for the flag to gain a deep understanding of how hurtful it is to *some* people and let their sensitivity toward that be their guiding principle.
Well, in a perfect world I guess.
Meanwhile those people who displayed the flag as a symbol of their heritage, pride, and love of the South, are suddenly not just proud people. They’re something far, far worse. Something ugly. And I think it’s wrong to have their little piece of the universe invaded by political zealots who are taking it upon themselves to be the voice of the New Moral Order. Just as I think it’s wrong for people who are opposed to everything for which the flag stands, to be told they should just get over it.
Live and let live.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantWell this is a very complicated issue. I get that there are some guys who see certain relatively benign things in the c.f. but then, that also means they don;t know or don’t care what it means to others. That doesn’t mean they should feel ashamed, btw…to me none of this is about shame. It’s about conflicts we never really got over, and which are still alive. And someone could stick with the c.f. as a symbol of pride, and not care about issues of diversity and what the c.f. means to other groups. That just means to me that we’re still at the stage where for a lot of people, not caring about diversity is a norm. It’s not open, overt racial hostility (which I also saw while living in Louisiana and spending a lot of time in Texas) but at the same time, to me, it’s a source of conflicting opinions.
You’re right that I have taken very strongly to one side in that conflict. It shows. I think the Coski stuff I posted in my last post here covers a lot of that. I learned things from reading about it (though haven’t read the book yet.) I might not have posted statements I did post if I had read that before. Different people are going to see different things in the c.f. As one of the people I quoted who talks about Coski’s book says, “it would be nice if the book succeeded in encouraging flag enthusiasts to consider all the levels of meaning the flag has, instead of tuning out the more negative meanings, and encouraging flag opponents to ASK people why they display the flag, instead of just assuming the worst. It’s all about communication, folks.”
But all that also means that it quite rightly should not be seen as a symbol of a state government. It’s too divisive to represent a state or a national entity like Nascar. Which is why Ole Miss, South Carolina, Nascar, and Alabama all got rid of it that way (some very recently–example: “Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley has directed that four Confederate flags be taken down from a Confederate memorial at the state capitol.”
I work in Charleston/Hilton Head now, and I drive a lot so I listen to a lot of talk radio. Bentley didn’t have an epiphany about the flag that compelled him to fight for racial harmony. It was straight up pandering. That, and he simply didn’t want to deal with it because it was cutting into his own personal agendas. Without pressure, he makes no such decision.
“This had the potential to become a major distraction as we go forward. I have taxes to raise, we have work to do. And it was my decision that the flag needed to come down.”
Again, was it the RIGHT thing to do on the whole? Sure. Not only that, it was inevitable. So I don’t think that anybody really believes that keeping it on the State grounds is something worth fighting over. That battle was waged and won quickly. Now all that’s left is people’s personal freedoms, and this is where everyone should tread lightly. I don’t believe that we’ll ever achieve a Utopia wherein a particular principle or ideal is universally adopted. If certain people *want* to continue to have the flag represent Southern Pride (or whatever non-hurtful thing they believe), they should be permitted to without being chastised about how insensitive or ignorant they are. So yeah, communication is key to all of this going forward. No one person or group should ever be allowed to dictate what another person or group should adopt as their own personal principles or beliefs. Talk about it and see if an understand can be had. And if an understand can’t be reached, then leave it alone. You tried.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantI think my point might be that not everyone
who likes the redskin label or stars and bars
is “racist”. I guess thats my point.w
vThey’re not. Or, at least they weren’t.
NOW they are, but not because they suddenly became so.
But because they’re being told they are.Having been more or less raised in Florida, and being around a bunch of good ole’ Country boys, I learned that the stars & bars represented (to them) Southern Pride and their aversion to ‘Yankees’, which usually referred to the New Yorkers who migrated down every winter. But it usually meant every other state that wasn’t Confederate.
Did they conveniently leave out the history and racial significance of the symbol? Sure. Were they intentionally doing so? Absolutely not. Never ever heard the ‘N’ word used in the same conversation about that flag, but that’s probably just the kind of “ranch people” I was exposed to as a young X. They all had horses and pick-ups, listened to Bocephus, drank a fair amount of beer, and were just generally good natured people who would go out of their way to help each other. Very polite too (when they weren’t drinking copious amounts of beer, that is).
But yeah. You’re correct that it doesn’t mean the same thing to everyone, and they shouldn’t have to feel ashamed about what it means to them.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantAll of Bailey’s touches last year.
Some are telling me they can’t see it or open the link, but…
Trust me. It’s there.http://www.mediafire.com/watch/mam3q9cou8qpjs1/iamsb3.avi
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantBalzer: Kroenke to invest even more than expected in STL?
On Howard’s lunchtime show today, he said he spoke to a source who told him not to dismiss the possibility of Stan Kroenke not only keeping the Rams here, but investing more than $250 in the new stadium in exchange for parking and other event revenues.
Wow, two and a half C-notes?
There’s probably more than that in his couch cushions.You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantWas just talking about this with my son (he’s 23).
How does one process arguably the greatest comedy album of all time and the foundation for many of the greatest comedians of today (the storytellers as opposed to the joke tellers that came from the vaudeville tradition) with what we know about Cosby now?
Bill Cosby: Himself is arguably the greatest comedy album and comedy concert of all time. And I include Richard Pryor’s Live on the Sunset Strip on that list.
Pryor was good. Amazing, but Cosby at that time was the greatest ever. And if none of this had happened, I have no doubt that he’d have to be on the Mt. Rushmore of comedians.
Now? I dunno. How do we process this now?
Do we deal with it like the Hall of Fame? I mean, we haven’t yanked Ty Cobb out and he was a horrible human being in a lot of ways, and I mean horrible.
I’m really just asking the question because I don’t have an answer… and I don’t presume that there is any one answer. It may just be different for each person.
Pretty easy for me to process it, because I never really was a fan of his comedy. I’m probably in the minority; but truthfully, I never thought he was funny. Just never did it for me.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantYeah, it’s the whole site. Apparently the site’s been suspended by the hosting service. Maybe they exceeded their allotted bandwidth or started hogging resources. I can’t imagine it’s from lack of payment, but who knows.
Just out of conversational curiosity–who owns it now? I forget his name but I remember he’s canadian.
CGI Ram
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantYeah, it’s the whole site. Apparently the site’s been suspended by the hosting service. Maybe they exceeded their allotted bandwidth or started hogging resources. I can’t imagine it’s from lack of payment, but who knows.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr SeussJune 16, 2015 at 10:47 am in reply to: "Marc Bulger one of the most under appreciated players in St.L. Rams history" #26366— X —ParticipantYes, but, is he an elevator operator?
All the great ones could operator elevators.
Or elevate operators.Something.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantI am surprised the corporate-PR-folks are just getting around
to this. I figured they had this kind of thing
in place a long time ago.w
vThey couldn’t roll out this program until the Urban Dictionary was voluminous enough.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantIf the world you wish to work towards sanctions government murdering citizens without trial,
and disappearing any citizen they want without,
getting a warrant,
without informing anyone,
for as long as the government wants, including
sending the citizen to foreign nations,
to be tortured or worse,
then that world is much closer than you know.Would a .22 take care of that problem, or should I *shoot for a higher caliber?
*pun intended.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantOctober 2nd. Kelly Ripa, Sting and I send each other cards and flowers.
zn, i don’t know when your birthday is…
No shit?
Mine too.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantPeople are just as tired losing loved ones to auto accidents. Don’t expect autos to be legislated away any time soon. The spirit in which the 2nd Amendment was written definitely includes the semi-automatic AR-15 as it does the fully automatic weapons of today. When it was written the intent was to allow the citizen to arm himself with the technology of the day. Those militias were comprised of citizens. Some of whom owned cannons and gunships.
If you wish to surrender your 2nd Amendment right that is your personal choice.
Well, yeah, except that we don’t often see a lot of mentally unstable people climbing into Chryslers or Volkswagons and indiscriminately killing a bunch of innocents with them because they had a crush on Jodi Foster. That’s the difference between gun regulation and a never-to-be-seen public outcry for car regulation.
And correct me if I’m wrong, but the intent of the Founding Fathers’ development of the 2nd amendment was based on them having just broken away from Great Britain, so they wanted to protect themselves against the possibility that the new Federal Government they were ratifying might one day become just as tyrannical. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel as though an entire Country of armed-to-the-teeth citizens still has zero chance of overthrowing (or even defending ourselves against) our Government should they turn on us. Which I don’t believe they’ll ever try to do anyway. But again, even if they did, we still have no chance to defend ourselves. No matter how many semi or fully automatic weapons we each have. They have control of THE gun and THE bullet.
So yeah, I have no problem surrendering my 2nd amendment right, because I’m not even exercising it anyway. For what? To say I can? I have more fear of some jacked up meth-head shooting my wife in the head over a parking spot at Walmart than I do of my Government turning on me. But I guess if I had a sawed-off shotgun, I could stop the latter from happening.
You giving up your 2nd Amendment right is your personal choice. We must disagree about the effect of an armed populace as history shows an armed populace is capable of making life miserable for an oppressor. That is why governments arm populations in countries they wish to overthrow by proxy. It is also why government confiscates arms in order to control opposition. You mentioned “should they turn on us”. Have you given any thought to how the “turn” will manifest? Given the assault on our liberties between the so called war on drugs and the war on terrorism the turn is being made and the radius becomes tighter each year. If you can’t see it then the myriad of distractions in popular culture and politics has worked on you. I view it as a frog contentedly sitting in a pot of water with the heat rising to boiling at which time it is too late.
None of the points raised in the above post suggests a need to heavily arm this Country. None of them. A spattering of talking points about civil liberties and a tip of the hat to George Orwell isn’t enough to convince me that I need an AK-47 hanging above my fireplace.
Of course this little side-debate was already over once the word “you” was introduced into it. And it wasn’t *me* who did that. That said, I graciously accept the offer presented to me that I’m permitted to retain my choice on this matter. I’m apparently a little too dumb (kinda like a frog) to make this decision of my own volition, but I’ll brave the consequences nonetheless.
Practically every home in Switzerland has an assault rifle. Those world famous dysfunctional Swiss, eh? Oh you’re not dumb. You’ve checked yourself out of following the erosion of personal liberties as have many people. It is easy to graciously accept my offer since it preserves your choice, something I wouldn’t work towards denying you.
Switzerland is a fairly poor example, and thankfully zn took the initiative to describe why. That aside, I don’t recall saying that another Country’s doctrines are good or bad by comparison. That’s stretching the boundaries of the core issue of this discussion. I mean, if I wanted to do that, surely I would have chosen a region or two in the Middle East to help facilitate my point about the desperate need to question a status quo built upon ancient and primitive laws. And I realize I’m not dumb. I was just illustrating the fallacy that people who don’t take a certain stance on something are being willfully ignorant or have “checked out” of someone else’s reality.
Maybe I’m just mindful of the world in which I’d like to live, and I’d rather work towards achieving THAT goal.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantPeople are just as tired losing loved ones to auto accidents. Don’t expect autos to be legislated away any time soon. The spirit in which the 2nd Amendment was written definitely includes the semi-automatic AR-15 as it does the fully automatic weapons of today. When it was written the intent was to allow the citizen to arm himself with the technology of the day. Those militias were comprised of citizens. Some of whom owned cannons and gunships.
If you wish to surrender your 2nd Amendment right that is your personal choice.
Well, yeah, except that we don’t often see a lot of mentally unstable people climbing into Chryslers or Volkswagons and indiscriminately killing a bunch of innocents with them because they had a crush on Jodi Foster. That’s the difference between gun regulation and a never-to-be-seen public outcry for car regulation.
And correct me if I’m wrong, but the intent of the Founding Fathers’ development of the 2nd amendment was based on them having just broken away from Great Britain, so they wanted to protect themselves against the possibility that the new Federal Government they were ratifying might one day become just as tyrannical. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel as though an entire Country of armed-to-the-teeth citizens still has zero chance of overthrowing (or even defending ourselves against) our Government should they turn on us. Which I don’t believe they’ll ever try to do anyway. But again, even if they did, we still have no chance to defend ourselves. No matter how many semi or fully automatic weapons we each have. They have control of THE gun and THE bullet.
So yeah, I have no problem surrendering my 2nd amendment right, because I’m not even exercising it anyway. For what? To say I can? I have more fear of some jacked up meth-head shooting my wife in the head over a parking spot at Walmart than I do of my Government turning on me. But I guess if I had a sawed-off shotgun, I could stop the latter from happening.
You giving up your 2nd Amendment right is your personal choice. We must disagree about the effect of an armed populace as history shows an armed populace is capable of making life miserable for an oppressor. That is why governments arm populations in countries they wish to overthrow by proxy. It is also why government confiscates arms in order to control opposition. You mentioned “should they turn on us”. Have you given any thought to how the “turn” will manifest? Given the assault on our liberties between the so called war on drugs and the war on terrorism the turn is being made and the radius becomes tighter each year. If you can’t see it then the myriad of distractions in popular culture and politics has worked on you. I view it as a frog contentedly sitting in a pot of water with the heat rising to boiling at which time it is too late.
None of the points raised in the above post suggests a need to heavily arm this Country. None of them. A spattering of talking points about civil liberties and a tip of the hat to George Orwell isn’t enough to convince me that I need an AK-47 hanging above my fireplace.
Of course this little side-debate was already over once the word “you” was introduced into it. And it wasn’t *me* who did that. That said, I graciously accept the offer presented to me that I’m permitted to retain my choice on this matter. I’m apparently a little too dumb (kinda like a frog) to make this decision of my own volition, but I’ll brave the consequences nonetheless.
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You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantPeople are just as tired losing loved ones to auto accidents. Don’t expect autos to be legislated away any time soon. The spirit in which the 2nd Amendment was written definitely includes the semi-automatic AR-15 as it does the fully automatic weapons of today. When it was written the intent was to allow the citizen to arm himself with the technology of the day. Those militias were comprised of citizens. Some of whom owned cannons and gunships.
If you wish to surrender your 2nd Amendment right that is your personal choice.
Well, yeah, except that we don’t often see a lot of mentally unstable people climbing into Chryslers or Volkswagons and indiscriminately killing a bunch of innocents with them because they had a crush on Jodi Foster. That’s the difference between gun regulation and a never-to-be-seen public outcry for car regulation.
And correct me if I’m wrong, but the intent of the Founding Fathers’ development of the 2nd amendment was based on them having just broken away from Great Britain, so they wanted to protect themselves against the possibility that the new Federal Government they were ratifying might one day become just as tyrannical. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel as though an entire Country of armed-to-the-teeth citizens still has zero chance of overthrowing (or even defending ourselves against) our Government should they turn on us. Which I don’t believe they’ll ever try to do anyway. But again, even if they did, we still have no chance to defend ourselves. No matter how many semi or fully automatic weapons we each have. They have control of THE gun and THE bullet.
So yeah, I have no problem surrendering my 2nd amendment right, because I’m not even exercising it anyway. For what? To say I can? I have more fear of some jacked up meth-head shooting my wife in the head over a parking spot at Walmart than I do of my Government turning on me. But I guess if I had a sawed-off shotgun, I could stop the latter from happening.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantEach team gets $86,957 budget to sign undrafted free agents. Can spend it however they want.
— Ross Jones (@RossJonesFOX) May 2, 2015
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantI blame Elvis.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantHe may be smarter than
i originally suspected.That really was an unusual answer.
“I am both.”Maybe i will like this guy.
Maybe not.
Maybe both.w
v
“There are no others.”
Ramana Maharshi.I would have accepted, “I am Legion” as well.
But he answered it just fine.You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantThat’s fine, but I have one condition.
I *don’t* want to see this anymore.I do not understand all this gyrating
that goes on with these kids today.Is it a sexual thing, or not?
I’m seriously naive about this.
Someone explain it to me?w
vHe’s more or less saying, “Yeah. Uh. Uh. Uh. I just f***ed you good” as a way of taunting/celebrating.
Wanna know the underlying issue for the sexual connotation? Can’t help you there.You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantThat’s fine, but I have one condition.
I *don’t* want to see this anymore.You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —Participant====================
VRENTAS: In 2013 you threw 27 touchdowns and two interceptions. Before you got hurt last season, you threw 13 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Which of those quarterbacks is the real Nick Foles?FOLES: Both of them. Those are all me. I don’t want to turn the ball over. I want to throw touchdowns, and I want to help our offense move the ball and get the ball in the end zone. Every single rep I have ever taken, that’s always been the guy who I want to be. I am not going to sit here and tell you that 2013 is exactly [who I am as a quarterback]. I’ve grown since both of those years. I’m a better player, a better person, a better athlete. I know everybody is going to analyze [the different stat lines] until the cows come home. But I’m not worried about that. I just want to work here and be successful here
=====================Interesting answer.
w
vGreat answer to a set-up question.
1. I’m the first guy (to which the media touts him as an egotist)
2. I’m the second guy (to which the media touts him as a defeatist)Dude processes ramifications quickly, I’ll say that.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —Participantwhat does this mean for the rams?
If she doesn’t conduct 50% of her interviews, we get a hotdog vendor from Tampa.
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —Participant— X —ParticipantI got one, but… I… do you mean it?
Do you really think I’m pretty?Well I had to lie. I’m trading you.
Yeah, JT already told me.
RamsWrath and a 2nd.
Good luck with that.You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantI got one, but… I… do you mean it?
Do you really think I’m pretty?You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantMan < Moth
Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present;
the result being that he does not live in the present or the future;
he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.– The 14th Dalai Lama
You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss— X —ParticipantAll defensive linemen.
Cannon to right of them
Cannon to left of them
Cannon in front of themYou have to be odd, to be number one.
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