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ModeratorIn some ways, it’s pretty complex.
I’m mixed. I pass as white, especially lately because of my medical situation over the last 20 years, but this issue has been near and dear to my heart.
I’ll try to keep my take brief
1) True: Race isn’t genetic. There’s not much to add to that. If it were, organ donation would be an entirely different function than it is right now (and there wouldn’t be a worldwide organ trade…).
2) Race is MORE than just cultural. There are physical characteristics that are intrinsic to the experience, that create exigencies, both create and remove possibilities and fundamentally CHANGE the human experience because those physical characteristics are viewed differently in a cultural AND social context. I am NOT speaking about Eugenics or any other pseudo-science that tries to establish a scientific basis for “race”. Rather, I’m speaking of race as a social and cultural construct based on physical traits and genealogy. Which may sound bad, but is pretty typical. “I’m half <insert “race” here> and one quarter…” How does anyone get to being Scandanavian? Chinese? Persian? Generally, one is born into these cultures. There has been a movement among adopted people to essentially adopt the culture of the parents if they choose. That’s an ongoing debate that I’m not going to get into, just wanted to acknowledge it. And, of course, there are exceptions to all this…which seems to be the focus now.
3) Race is for the most part assigned. THIS is controversial, but all too true. Many have said in the media that “race is self-identified”. I disagree as I’ll explain later. As a cultural and social phenomena, it’s been a real issue among light skinned African Americans and mixed race Americans who can “pass” for White to be in flux. Some have moved, disavowed family including darker siblings and parents and chosen to pass for white for the many reasons that might be desirable. Others have embraced their “blackness” and struggled with being “black enough” which a different facet of this same discussion. I can see how one can embrace who they ARE. A dark-skinned Sri Lankan may correct someone and say, “No. I’m not black. I’m Sri Lankan,” because black in the Unites States is a euphemism for an entirely different social and cultural grouping. But the key is the really crappy nature of this… externality. Social and cultural assignment is almost by nature external and as such, it’s how others see us. It’s one reason why “inclusive cultures” or cultures without assignment are so sought after by some.
4) There is just NO comparison to the Transgender community. Plain and simple, a transgender person is living a physically and cognitively disparate reality. Their gender doesn’t match their body. Moreover, their sexuality may OR MAY NOT match their cognitive reality. In other words, a transgender person may understand that they are a male. This person would by definition have a female body. However, if this transgender person is heterosexual, the attraction would be for women. That would put the person in what from the outside looks like a lesbian relationship, but is actually a straight relationship between a woman and a transgender person (obviously the physicality complicates things). This has nothing to do with anyone assigning anything. If a transgender person were teleported to another galaxy, none of their realities changes.
So, here’s my take in a nutshell. And this is brief for me as you all know.
I think the woman in question has issues that I won’t even try to deal with.
I think her individual issues cloud the ability to deal with the larger issues. If one wants to talk about her, it’s important to narrow any discussion to JUST her situation and restrict that discussion to her particular situation.
I think the genetics, eugenics, science and pseudo-science crowd should seriously shut the fuck up. If Eugenics didn’t die after WWII, we sure don’t need it sparking back up now because someone can read a few scanned papers on Wikipedia.
I think that because we try to assign mixed race people as ONE race rather than allowing mixed race people to be mixed, there are going to be problems. I’ve life experience in this area and I REALLY wish we could address mixed race people as MIXED while at the same time allowing for INCLUSION into their “component communities”. Thus, like me, I’m part White, a quarter Black and some part Native American. I see this not only for me, but for my kids. My youngest daughter clearly LOOKS mixed and she isn’t considered white by most people. My eldest daughter looks white and is considered white. My daughter doesn’t really have the choice to just go out into the world and say “I’m white. I’m black. I’m Native American. I embrace all of these,” and have them embrace her back. Well, the Native culture would and does. The black community is a mixed bag. It’s…complicated. The white community? Not so much. It’s pretty binary, a person either IS or IS NOT.
Thus, because of this, because of the mixed race dilemma which shouldn’t be the entirety of this discussion or define this issue, there is no definite answer. Well, there is and it’s inclusion… but that’s of those who are mixed and essentially create difficulties and exceptions for the basic assignations for the various cultures.
I do think the construct of race is more than just culture. The various common physical traits, whatever they may be, are an inextricable PART of that culture. Moreover, whether positively or negatively (usually negatively…let’s be honest), cultural and social assignations are NOT a matter of checking a box. Take our President. He’s half white. He could choose to say he’s white. He was raised by his white mother in Kansas along with his white grandparents. However, the social norm would be to say that he “looks” black, thus unless there’s a correction, he’s black. The President could check all the boxes he wanted, but it would be folly to seriously entertain him “embracing his Whiteness”.
Yes, there is a part of this that’s exclusionary with respect to white and it frustrates me to no end. As in the story posted above, there’s a purity aspect that creates a “white or other” rather than “white AND other” mentality.
For most of my life, I’ve struggled with self-assigning only to be rudely informed externally that, NO…., the outside… was taking care of that. As I’ve shared before, I’ve never “felt white” because I could see what the white experience looked like and got to experience most of it, but didn’t feel it internally. Plus, I’ve had store detectives follow me and people ask me in a tone that wasn’t positive, “you’re part black, aren’t you?” So, I’ve struggled with this issue my whole life.
I will use this example as a counter for those positing that folks can self-assign. Young African-American males absolutely can NOT self-assign as young white men. If “race” were TRULY something that could be self-assigned, young black males in poor neighborhoods all across this country could avoid profiling from police departments by self-assigning as white if they chose. They could improve their credit (the racist polices of the banking industry is pretty well known. My wife has a higher credit score than I do because I check “other” for my race and she checks “white” even though she has no income), they could make it easier to obtain housing and to get into college.
NONE of these things are options. Moreover, when the police looks at a young heavily melanin enriched American male… he’s likely profiled as being black, dangerous and a criminal. Thus, the farther this discussion goes from being academic and enters into the real world… to getting a home loan (a bank could sue you for checking the wrong box…try making that self-assignation argument in court. I wouldn’t), to dealing with law enforcement (the police department sure doesn’t seem to take much stock in self-assigning), to dealing with the job market… we see that self-assigning is ONLY about the meaningless gesture of checking the box. If it weren’t, a person could just say, “I’m white! Don’t shoot!” and as blatantly racist as that is, they could probably save their life in certain situations where especially black men are killed without a second thought. Buying a toy gun comes to mind…
So that’s it. We KNOW that race is a construct. And? Short of homogenization which I think would be horrible in just about every way possible, we’re left with all of these different cultures masquerading as “races”.
Ultimately, the way out will be when we learn that there’s ONE human race and that there are thousands of cultures that are different. Some are born into, some are entered into and hopefully we get to the point where none are assigned based on physical features.
By way of exception, here’s Josh Blue, comedian and African American. (American citizen born and raised a good chunk in Africa)
Here’s Barack Obama, President and of mixed race (white mother and black father)
Josh Blue jokes about being an African American. And while technically he IS an African American in the literal sense, he’s not part of that culture. He’s a damned funny comedian and his take on it is hysterical and I’d recommend a google of him because it’s worth it.
The only thing about this that really frustrates me is that the self-assigning advocates are going to great lengths to not justify Rachel Dolezal’s deception, but to somehow validate the question she raises. Bullshit. If this is really about the work she was doing, was it not possible to do it in her former guise? Could she not do it without the subterfuge? If not, then that’s an issue for the NAACP and the African American community to look at. I know it’s not true as an absolute because my grandfather who’s Native American and Pennsylvania Dutch was one of 14 founding members of the Easton, PA chapter of the NAACP in 1942 and the only “white” man of those founders. So, the NAACP is not and has not been an exclusively black organization. I don’t believe it has become LESS inclusive since 1942.
So, again the question, is it about the work or the guise? Because if it was about the work, my grandfather did work for the NAACP as a white man in 1942 married to a black woman raising mixed kids. He went on to work quite a long time for Bethlehem Steel, not exactly a bastion of tolerance. She could have done the work she did as she was. Moreover, I don’t see any serious effort to discredit her work (then again, I haven’t gone looking for it). I see her deception being called out. Thus, if it’s about the guise, then deception to be part of any community or culture is just false. She can say she’s black all the live long day, but at the end of the day, she can go back to being white and check another box.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorYou’re right, Ag. I got them switched.
Even better. Even one holding penalty can lose a game for ya.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorI’m SOOO looking forward to watching to this Defense…
I mean, I haven’t looked forward to watching a Ram unit since the GSOT.
Seriously.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorI don’t think that point can be driven home hard enough.
If our OL RUN blocks well, which should be about 50% of the play calls, then you have the Play Action passes which I presume is 33% of the remaining 50%, thus 17% rounding up, then optimistically, the amount of Run or Run Affected blocking is in effect 67% of the time.
That leaves only 33% of snaps where an opposing D can expect to be able to purely get off and rush. Combine that with the uncertainty of down, distance and situational football and it makes it hard for a defense to really pin their ears back.
THIS PLAN CAN BE DEVASTATING. As the Eagles proved in 2013.
The KEY is the RUN BLOCKING of the OL. If the OL blocks well and the D has to focus on the run essentially 67% of the time knowing that a run play typically gains near 5 ypa and they have to play COMMITTED run D because big gains are a very real possibility (hence the NEED for a RB like Gurley), then the OL will face a DL that won’t have the same “get off” that DLs do when facing pass happy teams. That will allow rookies and less than all-pros to play effectively within the confines of a relatively simple system because the focus will be on execution.
Again, we saw that in how they drafted. They chose guys who showed that they knew how to execute, especially Havenstein who led the way on most of Gordon’s big runs at Wisconsin AND was extremely effective in pass pro only having one holding penalty all year and giving up zero sacks.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorWell, that… and longer arms and usually quicker feet. As well, Tackles are usually at times left on an island as well as having to work in tandem with their OG to pick up stunts, twists, dawgs and blitzes.
They tend to be the leaders on the OL and the most competent as they have to face the best athletes on the DL.
So, yeah. I can totally see where Coach Boo is coming from.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorI prefer “The Breakfast Buffet”… You walk up looking for the Pigskin, but all you get is a Pancake Breakfast!!!
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Mackeyser
ModeratorI guess.
Normally, I don’t go to extremes. I didn’t with Zac Stacy and haven’t with Tre Mason.
Gurley has the ceiling to warrant the extremes AS PART of the discussion. I suppose he could end up being JAG, but I tend to doubt it…
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Mackeyser
ModeratorBarksdale has to be wondering what else can happen to make my bargaining position worse???
Maybe the woman he just married could turn out to be a long lost relative of the 49er GM Trent Baalke?
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Mackeyser
ModeratorWell, Invader, Gurley did beat Chris Conley in a 40 and Conley just ran a 4.35 40 at the Combine.
I don’t recall when that was, but understand, this guy is FAST.
His sophomore highlights don’t show his speed nearly as much since he played all year with an ankle.
You can see his speed his freshman year when he quite literally ran away from guys who were drafted in the 1st round.
Draftniks drooled over this kid after the first few games saying that he was a first rounder and based on actually watching him closely, it was hard to argue other than saying, “yeah, but you can’t judge after only a few games…” After his time at UGA, now we can.
Gurly isn’t as fast as AP in the flat, but he hits HARDER. He’s WAAAAY faster than Lynch and may hit as hard or nearly as hard.
So being an AP/Lynch hybrid is a pretty damn nice thing to be and that’s what we should have in Gurley which is why Fisher isn’t going to screw this up by bringing him back too early.
I fully expect him to be on the IR-designated to return list, which should allow him to be able to play week 9, which is our 8th game, I think since we have a bye in there. I’m not sure how the bye fits in all of that. I think it’s based on weeks, not games.
Anyway, I would expect that based on that, Gurley would continue to rehab and learn the playbook, then start practicing and getting up to speed starting Week 7 and actually playing Week 9. That would be the home game against the 49ers. Pretty good game to take the wraps off of the new kid…get him some carries…at home against a division foe.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorWell, we’re not talking about Marcus Lattimore, here. His knee was basically ripped to shreds and he never played for the 9ers. Which is a damned shame, he had a star bright future. I’m glad he at least got that first contract, though, even if he never played.
Anyway. Word on Gurley is that he had a CLEAN ACL tear with almost ZERO collateral damage including no damage to the meniscus. It’s about as clean as it gets. So, if the repair work was done well and he heals well, which all signs point to yes (I mean, the kid had Andrews do the surgery and he rehabbed at the Andrews Academy in conjunction with EXOS), then he should be ready to go.
Understand that he has a complete plan, everything down to diet and I’m sure sleep schedule. They’ve calorie counted this kid and the whole shebang. He’s on a special diet to speed ligament healing, the whole 9 yards. That part comes from Dr Andrews, himself, btw.
And… he’s only 20 years old. So, since he’s still in the final growth stages, his healing is still in that accelerated stage.
What amazes me is what he was able to do behind that Georgia OL. It wasn’t much. Gordon rocked behind that Wisconsin OL and we know that they dominated… but the Georgia OL… did anyone of them even get drafted? I don’t think so. And yet, their RB went first overall. What I’m getting at is Gurley’s Yards after Contact is crucially important.
What Gurley is is a combination… He’s like this on the slider between Bruising w/speed and Speed w/Bruising
Marshawn Lynch……Todd Gurley..Adrian Peterson
I really think he’s capable of being on their level, but he’s somewhere in between their styles. I don’t think he’ll want to be AS bruising as Lynch, but I don’t think he’ll initially explode like AP did. I think Gurley is CLOSER to AP than Lynch, but he’s not an AP clone. He’s capable of banging like Lynch and really enjoys punishing defenders like Lynch does.
His longevity will depend on him being more like AP as a runner, though, and I hope our OL and passing game allows that to happen.
Nothing would please me more than for a Ram RB to break ED’s record.
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May 13, 2015 at 10:16 pm in reply to: Tom Brady Suspended Four Games + Patriots Docked 2 Draft Picks #24546Mackeyser
ModeratorYes, bnw, that little bit of data is CONVENIENTLY ignored. Moreover, the response is to try and equivocate domestic violence issues with integrity/game violation issues.
Apple? Meet Orange…
Bob Costas was absolutely right. Had Brady simply come clean from the beginning, surrendered the messages, put it off on the equipment guys as over eager, owned his hyper-competitive nature and just said, “my bad”… this would have been a NON ISSUE.
And you know what? The rest of the NFL, including players who hate his guts would have lined up behind him.
But, he didn’t.
It’s Barry Bonds v. Jason Giambi.
Barry Bonds abused steroids…then lied about it and was defiant until the end. Now he’s a punchline.
Jason Giambi came clean right away…”yeah, I did a bunch of steroids. I’m very sorry.” He took his lumps, took his penalty and WAS BACK PLAYING RELATIVELY SOON. Moreover, almost no one slams Giambi relentlessly like they do Bonds, McGwire and other cheaters who belligerently fought the allegations that turned out to be true.
Brady is guilty. The language is what it is because it was crafted by a lawyer preparing a LEGAL document. Those words MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR GUILTY under the Preponderance level in civil cases.
Legal language is NOT the same as “il vulgare”. It cannot be read as a common language. The words in the Wells report are actually quite damning and Yee and Kraft KNOW IT or at least their lawyers should be telling them that.
And unlike in Bountygate, Goodell is NOT the sole judge and jury. Wells was an independent investigator. Troy Vincent was responsible for the administration of punishment. Thus, any bias argument like those alleged by Agent Yee are just silly because those are aimed at Goodell and Troy Vincent made this judgment based on the findings of Wells. Goodell was NOT involved with any of this. So, slamming the Commish is like a stunned fighter just swinging, hoping to hit…something.
The Saints players had GOOD cause to sue Goodell and win. However, as Vilma stated in his texts to Brady in urging him to sue, the very cause which allowed Vilma to sue simply doesn’t exist for Brady.
Worse, the longer Brady and the Patriots fight this, the worse it gets for them.
This whole thing is yet another example of life presenting itself like the Chinese finger trick. The solution is to push one’s two fingers toward one another. No amount of pulling, twisting or resisting of any kind solves this puzzle. The way OUT…is IN. The way towards if not innocence, but maybe mitigation or even minimization is guilt. Admit. Go for it.
Even still. Drop it. Drop it all. Don’t appeal. Bend like a read in the wind and just chalk up this past bit to being hyper-competitive, but admit it. Admit the lie. Apologize. Do NOT mention anyone else. Answer every question. Wait until the last question is the janitor is asking if he can turn off the lights.
Will he listen? No. His agent who has the same good ideas as Greg Stillson did in The Dead Zone, will have him fight this until the bitter end.
What’s a shame is that the end will be more bitter than a rhubarb pulled fresh from the good earth.
Lastly, they need to keep Gronk locked up in Pats HQ. Lord help that guy, he may be one of the best TEs ever and, Bless his heart, but he’s a damned meathead. If ever there were a guy that really needs to be protected from himself and the media, it’s that guy. I’m serious, I wonder if he’s got an IQ above 85. He was on either ESPN or NFL Network and the anchors were just cringing when asked pretty basic questions and his answers were the same as if he were at the Combine… painful to watch, really.
“So, the penalties were just handed down today. What do you think about them and how they affect your team?”
“Yeah, I dunno anything about that. All I can do is go out everyday and be the best football player I can be.” At first, I thought he was doing a Mongo impersonation, from Blazing Saddles, then realized…uh oh… by the squirming of the anchors and his demeanor, he completely was NOT.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
Mackeyser
ModeratorWell, I just agree with all of that.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorMy two faves from the draft outside of Gurley are Havenstein and Wichmann.
I really like all of them, but those two are my faves.
That said, it sure isn’t hard to really like Donnal and Brown, either.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorOnly five additional ACL injuries per season…
I guess it depends which player. Pretty sure Sam Bradford was a really significant ACL injury.
JJ Watt goes down with an ACL, that’s huge… So just dismissing it as “only five” as if that were de facto insignificant is ignorant. If that extra is one of the top QBs, then it’s not just statistically significant, but just changed the entire league for that year.
I know the Field Turf guy had to stand up for his product, but c’mon…
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Mackeyser
ModeratorUnderstand… just for sending a text to the sideline, people have been suspended a number of games.
If Brady isn’t suspended at least 6 games due to this, the league has no compass.
This wasn’t a rule misunderstanding. He violated the integrity of the game.
In Baseball, if a pitcher changes the ball via scuffing or applying a substance, he’s not only ejected, but can be suspended and banned.
Would the Pats have won if they had these results at halftime of the AFC Championship game and ejected Brady like in a baseball game? Likely not…
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Mackeyser
ModeratorSo, in other words…
*sticks fingers in ears*
LALALALALALALALALALALA
I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!!
LALALALALALALALALALALA
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May 5, 2015 at 1:35 pm in reply to: now that the dust has settled a bit, how do you feel about this draft? #24118Mackeyser
ModeratorEternal Ramnation… I may have to steal your handle for my fantasy football team.
It used to be Inglorious Bradferds. And that’s where my head’s at.
I thought about Gurley Men, but I don’t like that vibe.
Foles Gold seems too plain.
“That’s HAH-venstein” is a joke only Mel Brooks fans will get…
“We’re Jamon”… I couldn’t hardly even type that…
I am warming up to “Pancake Breakfast” what with all of our beefy OL…
but just sayin… if you see Eternal Ramnation in some random fantasy league… it might be me.
I mean, I don’t want to play this year, but my friend is very persuasive…
And if I think of a really good name (c’mon, Inglorious Bradferds was a really good name before he went down…), I’ll have to play…
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Mackeyser
ModeratorCuz you can’t draft 53 guys in 3 years…
Math is hard.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorThat’s Rex being Rex.
I dunno what unsanctioned means, but I surely hope that the Rams are in the picture.
Still, if Ryan swoops in and gets him for what amounts to a dinner… good on him.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorOliver’s long segment is the best 12-15 minute segment NOT on Vice.
Both are on HBO.
Funny – John Oliver
Straight – ViceI think they are equal in both content and value. I think John Oliver gets the edge because the wife can’t watch Vice. It’s too intense. John Oliver can approach the same topic and hit it JUST AS HARD (like privacy, for example, he actually interviewed Edward Snowden) and because he used the Dick Pic example, we all got a huge laugh out of it and it created a huge family discussion (my 4 kids are all at least 15).
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Mackeyser
ModeratorDale Hansen is a freaking GEM.
Love that guy.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorThis one was the best one, yet.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
Mackeyser
ModeratorVery damn sad. Was going to post about this, but wanted to wait until the post went up at ROD after I got the text from Les.
At first Thor and I got along… and then we REALLY didn’t.
Went through some EPIC battles (and I don’t mean epic in a good way). Then I realized that between my health and principles and all that, I just didn’t want to behave that way…not toward anyone. So I apologized and ended it.
Turns out he felt the same way.
Turns out he had a lot of similar stuff going on.
We’ve been communicating privately and praying for one another ever since.
I will miss being able to give him comfort and I will miss the comfort he shared with me.
I will miss my friend.
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May 4, 2015 at 7:21 pm in reply to: Rams still interested in OT Joe Barksdale, but where does he fit? #24048Mackeyser
ModeratorHave a feeling he signs with the Falcons…
Could be wrong, but…
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Mackeyser
ModeratorYeah, they can’t offer him a $2M signing bonus, for example.
And since likely all of the UDFA money is gone, the ONLY things they can offer are
1) starting job
2) guarantee salary
3) opt out in 2nd year of contract.Normally, the team will have an RFA clause for UDFAs that allow them to extend them from 3 to 4 years, but he could get out after just two if they allow him to have that in his contract. That would allow him to recoup what he lost.
If he really is as good as he looked, then he may be actually better off because he’d be hitting that 2nd contract after only 2 years. Which, is kinda crazy…
I’d still do it if I were the Rams. If GRob struggles, you can move him to RG and you have Collins as your LT. If not, you have your bookends that can dominate in both pass pro and definitely in the run game.
I’d be shocked if the Rams weren’t really on this… I know they like Havenstein, but c’mon. You really have to be on this guy… If he’s cleared, they Rams have to be after him like Quinn after a strip sack…
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May 4, 2015 at 6:24 pm in reply to: Stats Doctor: Facts We Learned About the Rams in the Draft #24037Mackeyser
ModeratorJerome Bettis, Marcus Allen and Keith Byars.
Two HoFers and one really damn good back. Good history for that slot. I remember Byars.
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Mackeyser
ModeratorDunno why I’m in the minority loving Wichmann, but I’m okay with that…
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ModeratorThat’s gonna be a story for a few days…LOL
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Mackeyser
ModeratorThey took the initial profile down, but not the one you posted…
har har har…
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May 4, 2015 at 4:11 pm in reply to: now that the dust has settled a bit, how do you feel about this draft? #24010Mackeyser
ModeratorWell, I hear your concerns.
I can address a bit.
Havenstein allowed 1 sack all year. Watching him, his kick step is very good. So, while he’s not from a passing offense, he was very good keeping his QB clean.
Jamon Brown is clearly a guard. But with that, he’s got nifty feet and good vision. He’s a guy that will use his strengths having been a tackle to pick up inside twists and stunts.
Donnal is about as well coached as they get having been coached by Ferentz at Iowa. As well, his STRENGTH at Iowa was his pass pro. Yep. He moved people and was a solid run blocker, but he was a very good pass protector at Iowa. You look at his set, his hands, his punch, his anchor and Donnal was just solid in pass pro. I think better than Havenstein, although I think Havenstein is a better run blocker. But both are so close for me that I think we did well getting both.
Wichmann is BY FAR my favorite. Guard who came from the same HS and College as Logan Mankins and damned if he doesn’t play like a Mankins clone. Kid plays like a pro among amateurs. When he seals on a run block, he gets PUSH and SEALS. And when a guy can do that against Leonard Williams? Well, he’s a find. This guy is NOT unathletic. He ran a 4.9 40 and has similar measureables as Ali Marpet, but I think he’s got a better feel for the position. I banged the table for Marpet, but I like this guy better. Had this guy gone to the Combine, he would have been a 3rd rounder, EASY.
If these guys come in and play up to their potential, I don’t give a crap about vets… they’ll beat the vets out. We’ve had Bond, Washington and Barnes here for awhile and didn’t see much. Same with Jones, frankly. I’ve banged the table for him and now he needs to step up. This is his year. Either he steps up or he needs to step away. But I’m pretty sure Jones can handle functioning in a power running scheme having come from Alabama…
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