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laramParticipant
No you were right the first time Invader.
Its a total shit.
Laram
laramParticipantA. Davis 29/43 375 yds 3 TD’s 0 INT’s
Offense scored 28 points.
Yeah I’m not surprised you can’t…I can.
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laramParticipantSun can you name a team that doesn’t play hard?
Obviously Philly was ALSO playing hard…they won the game.
That’s not an anomaly.
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laramParticipantWho were the rb’s for the last 5 SB winners? Quick name them??
Well, Blount/Vereen, Lynch, Rice, Bradshaw/Jacobs, and Starks.
Either way my bet is that they continue to be a balanced team that still throws. They’re not going to be a run-heavy Seattle style team.
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Blount – 14 carries 40 yards
Vereen 4 carries 13 yards
Lynch 15 carries 39 yards
Rice – 20 carries 59 yardsWhat was your point? MY response to the Op had nothing to do with whether they would be balanced or not, and by listing the rb’s you support MY point. They had little to do with the outcomes.
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LaramieYou can grind it out all day but it’s gonna take more plays which increases the odds for error.
If I have a superior pass game, I don’t need as many possessions.
We’ll see how it all plays out, but I’m usually pretty dialed in on the Rams.
=================For someone who claims to be dialed into the Rams he’s missed the main goal (besides winning) of Fisher’s system. That is he wants a ball control offense to keep the other teams defense on the field and wore down by the 4th quarter. The assumption is our defense will be better rested and able to keep our offense within 7 points of the lead starting their final game winning drive while running out the clock.
I think even Ray Charles can see what Fisher wants to do.
Again a superior pass offense doesn’t need as many possessions to score.
Who were the rb’s for the last 5 SB winners? Quick name them??
Exactly.
Laram
laramParticipantthe arizona run at the end. and the chicago bears run where he stops on a dime and reverses. beautiful runs.
Invader when you get a chance check out this Football Outsiders breakdown on TA.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2014/factors-tavon-austin
well the article refers a lot to his lack of physicality. he’s too easily pushed around on routes, and he struggles to maintain balance when he takes a hit. those are all things i agree with. his hands last year were bad. yeah. that seems correct.
still. i think he can be a useful player. i don’t think he’ll ever live up to his draft status. but i see him as a valuable player. i see him as a rich man’s amp lee…
ha!
1. Screen, smoke, suck
So here’s this first-round slot receiver the Rams invested the No. 9 overall pick on. You would think maybe he’d be shifty enough to actually garner a missed tackle or two on some screens.
Instead, Austin seemed almost utterly preoccupied with how fast he could put his foot in the ground and get upfield. It is true that Austin’s speed is world-class — that stood out even on these failed screens. But Austin was not powerful enough to take a hit while shifting his weight, nor does he have the balance to re-establish himself on glancing blows of the NFL caliber.
The result was that the Rams had an 18 percent Success Rate on screen passes to their jitterbug receiver. Did Schottenheimer have some involvement in this? Sure. His screen designs were either completely base or so agonizingly complicated that you’d think he found them in Ulysses.
But the main problem the Rams had with these plays last year was that Austin had no ability to make anyone miss in open space. After watching some college tape, I don’t think he completely lacks this ability. But I do think he never properly adjusted to the NFL’s speed and tackling, and I do wonder how coaching may have contributed to that.
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laramParticipantthe arizona run at the end. and the chicago bears run where he stops on a dime and reverses. beautiful runs.
Invader when you get a chance check out this Football Outsiders breakdown on TA.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2014/factors-tavon-austin
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laramParticipanta couple things i disagree with on the original post.
1. i do think he has the stop and start quickness the rams thought he had. i think the main problems are his size and the fact that he is thinking too much when he is out there. he won’t ever be able to overcome the size problem, but as far as the thinking too much. he’s only entering his third year. i would think there is still room to grow there, and as he starts to think less and just react, maybe the production will start to go up.
2. also. the issue of using him properly. there could be some validity to the argument. fisher himself has alluded to the fact that he was misused in 2014 and that they plan to correct that this year. maybe cig has some ideas. maybe it’s just a matter of simplifying some things. regardless, fisher saw some issues on defense and adjusted last year. maybe fisher and cig saw some issues with the offense in 2014 and plan on making adjustments. maybe these involve tavon. maybe they don’t. but i don’t think it can just be dismissed.
First of all I agree 100% with everything that Coach said, and have said the same things myself.
I tend to disagree with you here Invader, I’ve posted more than once during the season on TA’s lack of stop and start quickness.
IT was really startling to me for at his size one would think he would be a lot quicker.
Go back and watch his 2013 season, he couldn’t consistently allude even one man at the NFL level. I was really taken aback by it. Its why they threw him so many bubble screens, because they anticipated him doing damage. After they saw that he couldn’t, they stopped throwing them.
TA never ran the route tree in college and he had like a 7 Wonderlich score so I’m sure he has great difficult reading coverages.
Receiver have to do that as much as the qb does.
I didn’t want them to draft him, but he has been an even bigger disappointment than I anticipated.
If you can’t break tackles you damn sure better be able to allude them.
Laram
laramParticipantDerrick Mason didn’t have Quick, Austin, Bailey, Cook, & Britt to take balls from him either Invader.
WV’s point is valid!
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laramParticipantBeing a predominately passing offense is a predominately passing offense, it doesn’t matter if you do it out of design or not.
I have seen all of the teams I named completely abandon the run for looong stretches of times and be one-dimensional.
Defenses don’t care IF you can’t run, or don’t wanna run.
They play what you do.
Talking about the quality of the receivers, is a different discussion.
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laramParticipantThat’s a good take and one I failed to mention. However we have seen offenses be successful in the spread with very little running.
GB, NE, Denver, Pitt have all done it.
Four games was not a large enough sample size IMO.
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laramParticipantI don’t care about being credited, there is no work being done. They’re not stills being extracted from game rewind. That’s work. When a person does stills, they of course should be credited.
Gifs are nothing, its just copy and paste. But to avoid this type of stuff in the future, I will just go out and get them on my own as I usually do.
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laramParticipantI guess I could have but I post gifs on the board all of the time. There out there for anybody to gather.
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laramParticipantI don’t think so man. A lot of teams run Cover 2, the Rams even run it but obviously not as a base defense. I heard Lovie say that they mix up the coverages and they were not exclusively a Cover 2 team. I haven’t watched them closely enough to tell, but with any defense, I think it will work if you have the players.
Other than McCoy and David, I dunno what they got. Verner is OK, Goldson is not a great cover safety, so I don’t think he has the players. You need a really good mlb in Lovie’s Cover 2 as we as Rams fan know!
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laramParticipantIf Chris can comeback quickly, “physically” I think he can wv.
That will allow Hayes to be fresher and will increase his productivity as well.
The thing about Sunday is Williams calmed the heck down. He only blitzed 40% of the snaps vs the high numbers prior.
The Rams had 7 of their 8 sacks from the front four.
That’s encouraging.
Unfortunately they have to get more from the offense or they won’t repeat Sunday.
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laramParticipantShotty is doing the game planning wv, Fisher has said himself that he will occasionally make in game suggestions, but its on the OC.
So the OC reigned Davis in.
Davis is making awful decisions, and even though he has played better defenses lately, there were many. many plays that he left on the field. The OC has down a tremendous job of drawing up plays and Davis is pissing them away. I’m talking routine plays he’s missing, not anything extraordinary that you would expect from an elite qb.
It makes me ill because I’m ready to win games, past ready.
IF Fisher was in “win now” mode he would go back to Hill.
Unfortunately he painted himself into a corner and probably won’t!
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laramParticipantzn wth are you talking about??
You can buy that shit, I don’t.
At the snap, Dez shifts out to the X, Jenks goes with him.
Jenks has man, he was NOT suppose to pass him over. He bit at the marker just like he did on the pick 6.
That’s what he does, he gambles on down and distance.
Maybe he should have had help over the top maybe not, but he was not to release him.
Dunbar had the curl zone and got caught on a run blitz and was late getting out.
That’s all it was for you because you don’t know any better.
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laramParticipant3rd Quarter — The busted play that allowed Dez to score – Oh my. Does that play signify that this defense has not figured out the scheme yet? I think Fisher said three players should have handled that play differently. So far the Greg Williams D is giving up more big plays than its creating. I dunno what that means. Its only three games, though, so I’m still hopeful.
Yep including the DC. He had a run blitz called expecting run and got play action with Max protect.
Romo had all day to throw.
So there was a LOT wrong on that play, including the call.
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laramParticipantIF 71% comp % against the likes of McCown and Cassel is better…the Rams are in trouble.
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laramParticipantMaybe you can, I can’t.
Against Matt Cassel and Josh McCown is not that great a test but even with that, they’re giving up about 71% comp %.
That AIN’T better.
They’re tackling better, that’s for sure.
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laramParticipantLet’s see if everyone in the secondary is playing better after they face some actual passing offenses.
I don’t think that can be determined at this point, and IMO Gaines did not play well against Minny.
He gave up several completions and a TD, so my evaluation is not on how he’s played, I’m strictly looking at his movements and instincts.
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laramParticipantHill was not hurt prior to the game. He would have had to be listed on the inhury report if he was.
Fisher said he hurt himself in the game and it got progressive worst.
This team was ill-prepared.
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laramParticipantKeenum is 6’1″ tall and already people are complaining.
6’1″? So, how tall is Russell Wilson and that dude just won a Lombardi.
How tall is Drew Brees? He has a Lombardi as well.
Lets give the kid a chance to play before we start picking him apart. And I could care less what the QB history of the school is either. USC has had many QBs over 6’1″ who played well in College that never truly made it in the pros.
BTW USC fan, how tall was Pat Haden?
Grits
I’m not surprised you don’t care Grits but you should.
It has everything to do with the system they run at UofH and why their qb’s don’t translate to the NFL.
But of course that’s not superficial stuff.
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laramParticipantBrett Hundley is no Andrew Luck Grits, and as Mac intimated…”he could blossom” but he won’t be there coming out.
And he could not.
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laramParticipantBottom line in Washington.
3rd in 2014
9th in 2005
30th in 2006The circumstances don’t matter, that’s a steep decline.
It has been that way essentially everyplace he’s been.
He has had several bottom third in the league defenses.
Oh and I was wrong, he’s had 7 different NFL jobs.
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laramParticipantNah, that’s simply not true.
He has had as many bottom feeder defenses as he’s had top 5.
Sticking around means nothing in the good old boys club.
The NFL tends to recycle its own.
Many examples of that.
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laramParticipantzn, buddy you’re kidding right? How many jobs has Williams had, 6? He has worn out his welcome everyplace he’s been.
Check this out. Look at how his defenses have declined, its good early then fizzles out.
Its like Venturi says, he’s a “quick fix” guy, but nothing sustainable.
That is symptomatic of something, that something should be obvious.
He’s an arrogant prick, that wears on people.
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laramParticipantYes we know how you feel, I was actually talking to wv. Your excuses for Bradford and the o-line and injuries, yada, yada yada is well documented.
I don’t care about any of that.
The facts are his career average is around 6.2 ypa in 4 seasons in the NFL.
He threw very similar passes in college.
Gunslinger is your word. Nobody is asking for that.
Just look to push the ball downfield and step on teams necks when the opportunity is there.
You need to be able to do that to win in this league.
Expecting him to all of a sudden become a gunslinger is unrealistic.
Nobody expects that.
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laramParticipantKurt wants to see Bradford take more chances
rather than check down quite so much.I’m not sure Fisher/Shottenheimer would agree.
I dunno.Sam seemed to say in one of the vids
that he just wants to be more efficient
or some word like that.w
vwv, obviously Kurt is saying that the qb has a lot of leeway there.
You have 4 years of data and three OC’s to form conclusions.
Its a pattern. Go back and look at his college tape, its there!!
Laram
laramParticipantI know, just a lot of unanswered questions for me.
Bottom line….there is NO reason to strike a woman!!
Laram
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