Easley does not sound at all like a locker room cancer. Maybe a still maturing young man but my perception is definitely not a cancer

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Ah the left, to win scream racism and when they lose scream racism. A trick that doesn’t work any more. But must feel marvelous trying? Old habits die hard.

I am curious BNW, what is your definition of racism ? I never really thought all that much about it just lumping all things ;racist, racism , prejudice,bigotry together. Imo racism is different, it’s an ism a system that’s rigged where as racists and bigots come in all forms of human.

I support your 2nd amendment rights, if you are a member of a well regulated militia you may have and bear a musket.

I watched it , thought it was ridiculous . The GSOT got dinged for not having the TE a big part of the offense. Of course the Bolts had nothing remotely close the Faulk. Winslow was great but not Faulk great ! The Bolts didn’t go to or win a Super Bowl either. GSOT 2nd place yeah right.

bnw wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

bnw wrote:

bnw wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

BNW that is not at all an accurate definition. The M1 was an assault rifle , it didn’t get selective fire until 1944. At the time the 2nd amendment was written assault rifles were muskets. Semi-autos are not at all better for hunting. Bolt action hunting rifles are superior in accuracy and safety. An idiot with a semi-auto 30.06 is the reason I retired from rifle hunting. If I can take deer with one arrow you damn sure don’t need a 40 round clip on your AK or AR. My own thoughts on the problem in general are to concentrate on getting and keeping firearms out of the hands of crazy people. The current “background check” is a joke. It’s more of a customer service survey on the honor system than a legitimate background check.

It is absolutely the ACCURATE description. The M1 to which you refer is the carbine. Granted according to the moronic rules of the ’90s it indeed possessed the attributes the Clinton Administration created to confuse the public and profit its campaign donors. The government and the press called the legislation the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 whereas the the actual name of the legislation was the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. For those unaware of the moronic rules of that legislation for an assault rifle-

Under the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 the definition of “semiautomatic assault weapon” included specific semi-automatic firearm models by name, and other semi-automatic firearms that possessed two or more from a set certain features:[11]

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.

That law confused people who do not know firearms. It also made political supporters of Clinton a lot of money by importing weapons such as the M1 Carbine which met the ridiculous criteria but in no way was ever considered an assault rifle. I asked this very question of an ATF agent at that time who agreed with me and further stated the agency is not at all concerned with that rifle. The imported M1 carbines brought increasingly higher prices by the restriction on imports. Pure profit to the importers. Increased prices for all pre-ban variants of other firearms too. It was never about safety. It was always about money.

Cosmetic features[edit]
Gun control advocates and gun rights advocates have referred to at least some of the features outlined in the federal Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 as cosmetic. The NRA Institute for Legislative Action and the Violence Policy Center both used the term in publications they released in September 2004 when the ban expired.[13][14] In May 2012, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said, “the inclusion in the list of features that were purely cosmetic in nature created a loophole that allowed manufacturers to successfully circumvent the law by making minor modifications to the weapons they already produced.”[15] The term was repeated in several stories after the 2012 Aurora shooting and Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[16][17]

ER,

Had to leave earlier so couldn’t fully address your comment on the M1 Carbine until now. The carbine was not intended for front line fighting. It was for support troops that might find themselves in a fight. It replaced the side arm issued to these troops since it had far greater accuracy at much greater range. Since it weighed much less than the M1 Garand and the Thompson submachine gun many troops went out of their way to acquire one in the field. The M1A1 was a carbine with a folding stock only which was reserved for paratroops. The M2 Carbine was the full auto version. Since minor mods were required to enable the M1 Carbine to fire full auto many were later converted as well.

You blew past quite a few points there, automatic weapons are exactly that automatic weapons The were illegal long before the assault weapons ban. Spears swords and axes were all assault weapons too. When that ban was put in place an AR 15 was a M16 minus the automatic sear which can still be bought online starting at about 25 bucks.The bans purpose was to stop psychopaths from “playing army” and going to war with the public. I think a little honest research would net some telling numbers on just how much good that ban did.Take a look at mass shootings data while the ban was in place and then compare it to the last 12 years.

No you don’t understand. Why do you think full automatic weapons are illegal? Even the Firearms Act of 1934 didn’t make full auto weapons illegal. Full auto weapons are Class 3. I’ve mentioned this before a few times. Fill out the paperwork and pay your $200 Class 3 fee and you can buy your machine gun, silencer, grenade launcher etc. Most people I know who have Class 3 bought for an investment since most people can’t afford to feed it the ammo. Silencers are the most useful but their price is still very high.

BTW the AR-15s made DURING the ban still were functionally the same semi-auto rifle. The pistol grip was modified and smaller capacity mags were the norm for civilian sales, though pre ban high capacity mags would still fit those rifles made during the ban. However all pre ban AR-15s were still legal to buy and sell.

Class 3 weapons require an extensive background check and the local authority usually a sheriff must sign off on it. This is not a matter of simple paperwork, and why do it when you can make your AR 15 an automatic for 25 bucks ? Again you are looking at the ban and say it does nothing but when you look up stats it was a massive success. Believe me I know gun nuts generally good people but I also know just plain nuts that shouldn’t be in the same state as a firearm .Seriously I have heard “I wish I would’ve had my gun” and worse from someone applying for a concealed carry permit. That is not a “good guy with a gun” That is a guy that should not even be driving.

bnw wrote:

bnw wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

BNW that is not at all an accurate definition. The M1 was an assault rifle , it didn’t get selective fire until 1944. At the time the 2nd amendment was written assault rifles were muskets. Semi-autos are not at all better for hunting. Bolt action hunting rifles are superior in accuracy and safety. An idiot with a semi-auto 30.06 is the reason I retired from rifle hunting. If I can take deer with one arrow you damn sure don’t need a 40 round clip on your AK or AR. My own thoughts on the problem in general are to concentrate on getting and keeping firearms out of the hands of crazy people. The current “background check” is a joke. It’s more of a customer service survey on the honor system than a legitimate background check.

It is absolutely the ACCURATE description. The M1 to which you refer is the carbine. Granted according to the moronic rules of the ’90s it indeed possessed the attributes the Clinton Administration created to confuse the public and profit its campaign donors. The government and the press called the legislation the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 whereas the the actual name of the legislation was the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. For those unaware of the moronic rules of that legislation for an assault rifle-

Under the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 the definition of “semiautomatic assault weapon” included specific semi-automatic firearm models by name, and other semi-automatic firearms that possessed two or more from a set certain features:[11]

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.

That law confused people who do not know firearms. It also made political supporters of Clinton a lot of money by importing weapons such as the M1 Carbine which met the ridiculous criteria but in no way was ever considered an assault rifle. I asked this very question of an ATF agent at that time who agreed with me and further stated the agency is not at all concerned with that rifle. The imported M1 carbines brought increasingly higher prices by the restriction on imports. Pure profit to the importers. Increased prices for all pre-ban variants of other firearms too. It was never about safety. It was always about money.

Cosmetic features[edit]
Gun control advocates and gun rights advocates have referred to at least some of the features outlined in the federal Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 as cosmetic. The NRA Institute for Legislative Action and the Violence Policy Center both used the term in publications they released in September 2004 when the ban expired.[13][14] In May 2012, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said, “the inclusion in the list of features that were purely cosmetic in nature created a loophole that allowed manufacturers to successfully circumvent the law by making minor modifications to the weapons they already produced.”[15] The term was repeated in several stories after the 2012 Aurora shooting and Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[16][17]

ER,

Had to leave earlier so couldn’t fully address your comment on the M1 Carbine until now. The carbine was not intended for front line fighting. It was for support troops that might find themselves in a fight. It replaced the side arm issued to these troops since it had far greater accuracy at much greater range. Since it weighed much less than the M1 Garand and the Thompson submachine gun many troops went out of their way to acquire one in the field. The M1A1 was a carbine with a folding stock only which was reserved for paratroops. The M2 Carbine was the full auto version. Since minor mods were required to enable the M1 Carbine to fire full auto many were later converted as well.

You blew past quite a few points there, automatic weapons are exactly that automatic weapons The were illegal long before the assault weapons ban. Spears swords and axes were all assault weapons too. When that ban was put in place an AR 15 was a M16 minus the automatic sear which can still be bought online starting at about 25 bucks.The bans purpose was to stop psychopaths from “playing army” and going to war with the public. I think a little honest research would net some telling numbers on just how much good that ban did.Take a look at mass shootings data while the ban was in place and then compare it to the last 12 years.

Hillary is a pro-choice Republican, that’s the difference in today’s USA. There are depending on Bernie’s next move exactly one leftist in the federal government.There was two but Kucinich no longer holds office and actually works for FOX News. BNW when you say left you are talking about Democrats not me. This is really quite painless takes a couple minutes and in my experience livens up the discussion. https://www.politicalcompass.org/test I took it again just now for reference I am a leftist Libertarian/anarchist on the compass.

Sorry for your loss Ozone.

bnw wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

The thing about Trump , the ban Muslims racist shit, he cannot do without a constitutional amendment.Hillary can and will take us to war just as she has done in the past. If you listened to her disgusting speech at AIPAC you know the extermination of Palestinians will continue but she actually knows how to do it where Trump will sink or swim but he doesn’t know what the hell he is doing. Neither one even knows a working class person, much less prepared to fight for them.Trump is a climate change denier and Clinton is a pro-fracking privatizing Mexico’s oil shill for all the worst corporations on the planet. Would you like a migraine or a toothache ? If and when Bernie is out Jill Stein is the only sane choice.

There’s nothing racist with Trump’s position on Muslim immigration. The FBI said that they are unable to vet these people because most have no documentation and the few that do could possess ISIS issued Syrian passports. Trump wants a temporary halt to Syrian immigration until these people can be reliably vetted.

bnw wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

The thing about Trump , the ban Muslims racist shit, he cannot do without a constitutional amendment.Hillary can and will take us to war just as she has done in the past. If you listened to her disgusting speech at AIPAC you know the extermination of Palestinians will continue but she actually knows how to do it where Trump will sink or swim but he doesn’t know what the hell he is doing. Neither one even knows a working class person, much less prepared to fight for them.Trump is a climate change denier and Clinton is a pro-fracking privatizing Mexico’s oil shill for all the worst corporations on the planet. Would you like a migraine or a toothache ? If and when Bernie is out Jill Stein is the only sane choice.

There’s nothing racist with Trump’s position on Muslim immigration. The FBI said that they are unable to vet these people because most have no documentation and the few that do could possess ISIS issued Syrian passports. Trump wants a temporary halt to Syrian immigration until these people can be reliably vetted.

I guess technically you’re right Islam is not a race and there are Asian Muslims,African Muslims and European Muslims but that is not a reasonable defense it is still bigotry and he has made many racist statements directed a Latinos as well as Asians,Arabs even Native Americans add to that his “birther” nonsense and you get just what he is a bigoted racist asshole with the vocabulary of a 5th grade bully and intellect to match.That’s why he doesn’t scare me. I loath Clinton but she is a very smart lawyer that knows how to get around laws, cover her ass and keep doing whatever she wants to do. So far that’s been illegal coups,wars, arms deals and forcing fracking on the planet to go along with selling off any hope of democracy to the highest bidders on Wall St.

The thing about Trump , the ban Muslims racist shit, he cannot do without a constitutional amendment.Hillary can and will take us to war just as she has done in the past. If you listened to her disgusting speech at AIPAC you know the extermination of Palestinians will continue but she actually knows how to do it where Trump will sink or swim but he doesn’t know what the hell he is doing. Neither one even knows a working class person, much less prepared to fight for them.Trump is a climate change denier and Clinton is a pro-fracking privatizing Mexico’s oil shill for all the worst corporations on the planet. Would you like a migraine or a toothache ? If and when Bernie is out Jill Stein is the only sane choice.

Now Trump has chickened out of the debate with Bernie.

You know if you read his books he is the hardest person to misunderstand,he literally wrote the book on language! Everything he writes is meticulously backed up by mountains of evidence. Myself I had to quit reading his stuff because it would check out every time and we are fucked,it’s depressing.

Haiti ,Honduras, Libya ,Syria , Iraq and the Ukraine. Every thing she touches goes to shit and she wants a do-over ?She has sold weapons to despots , dictators and psychopaths, her next mistake could very well come in the form of a mushroom cloud and she is currently under investigation by the FBI !!!!’The absolute worst candidate in my lifetime,nothing incremental about it.

Hope you decide to stick around DAK we missed you!