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December 1, 2014 at 9:44 am in reply to: controversy: a few fans dropping the Rams because of the WRs's Ferguson gesture #12772DakParticipant
It’s very racially charged here in the STL since the events of Aug. 9. A lot of this has to do with how police treat black people. On the other side, police and their supporters feel that police officers are being vilified for protecting themselves against criminals.
This much is certain: The prosecuting attorney’s office did not treat Darren Wilson the same as they would have a poor suspect who couldn’t afford a good defense.
And, guess which side most white people are siding with and which side black people are siding with? The situation has put race under a magnifying glass.
I just had Thanksgiving with some new in-laws and it was the first time we all sat down and broke bread together. I am not kidding you when my new sister-in-law’s father told me that every black person he has ever met is dishonest. And he kept referring to “The Blacks” when talking about how black people can improve their plight. He said the prosecuting attorney is an honest man (as opposed to those dishonest Blacks who said they witnessed the “hands up, don’t shoot” gesture).
My feeling is that the grand jury probably followed the law and evidence when coming up with the decision not to indict. But, that doesn’t change the fact that the entire system is rigged against poor black folks in poor black communities.
As for the players who made the gesture coming out for the game, I’m sure they all had their reasons for doing it. I’m sure all of them identify more with those poor black people than the police.
It’s a cultural issue. It’s a racial issue. And, it’s made worse by the looting, which racist white people point to when talking about how police have to deal with these thugs. I feel like it’s obvious, if you watched the paramilitary response to some protesters after the Michael Brown shooting, that police treat people in those neighborhoods differently. They were out there on military vehicles, throwing tear gas, pointing guns at people and their homes, and shooting protesters with rubber pellets. They made every protester out to be a thug, and made themselves targets. That made everything worse from the start. I’m sure those people who said Michael Brown was gunned down for no good reason feel like that could happen to them at any time, and that paramilitary response from police likely just made their feelings even stronger.
DakParticipantNittany is an anti-Clownite.
With good reason…
Clown’s gotta eat, too.
November 26, 2014 at 5:52 pm in reply to: RGIII: Great QBs don't play well if teammates don't #12571DakParticipantI don’t want the guy\. A QB who can’t see open receivers is not a QB. My guess is that once he lost his speed and elusiveness, he lost his nerve.
November 26, 2014 at 4:52 pm in reply to: I will be gone for 4 days with limited access starting tomorrow #12568DakParticipantI wish you and your family the best, zn.
November 25, 2014 at 1:39 pm in reply to: Happy-Holiday – what are you eating?..schadenfreude pie.. #12498DakParticipantWhatever my new sister-in-law is making, plus my wife’s mashed potatoes. Plus, pie.
DakParticipantKellen Clemens was way more limited than Hill. The defense didn’t respect his arm past 20 yards. They have to respect that Hill can throw the ball downfield, and pretty accurately. He makes more mistakes than Clemens, but Clemens also couldn’t produce many points.
DakParticipantThis is what I believe the Michael Sam situation shows us.
Natural pass rushers usually get every chance.
Except if you’re gay.
DakParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
I personally dont even want AustinD back.
I dont think his flaws are correctable.If the Rams think they are a QB away from
the playoffs, then I’d bring back Bradford
and just take the salary-hit.I’d like to bring Hill back, too.
In 8 and a half games Austin Davis has completed 63.4% of his passes, he has thrown for over 2000 yards. He has an 85.1 qbr and has passed for 12 TDs against 9 interceptions. (Most 1st year qbs throw for more interceptions than TDs.) And you are ready to toss him in the trash heap! Really? I have words for that kind of logic, but they would get me banned.
BTW — Sam Bradford as a rookie completed 60.0% of his passes, had a 76.5 qbr, threw for 18 TDs against 15 ints. These numbers are a little worse than those of Davis and Bradford won offensive rookie of the year. And you are going to get rid of Davis?
Austin Davis has had some good moments, but I don’t want him to be anything more than a 3rd string QB, and if that means you can’t have Bradford, Hill and a rookie to develop, yes, I say goodbye to Austin Davis. When pressured, Austin Davis crumbles. Those statistics don’t reflect that he also holds onto the ball too long, contributing to sacks. And, his turnovers often lead to TDs. I think that’s because he has poor pocket awareness and makes some questionable choices when pressured. Plus, I don’t think he’s much of a leader. I think the league’s caught up to Davis, and I don’t think we’ll see too many gaudy stats from him again.
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November 23, 2014 at 7:59 pm in reply to: Rams can't overcome their own mistakes… (Chargers game reactions thread) #12396DakParticipantIt wasn’t a good play call, true. But, Hill looks like he just didn’t take care of the ball there. His first job is to make sure he doesn’t turn it over, because you have a tie if you do nothing.
DakParticipantzn wrote:
Emmanuel Sanders: Was a legal hithttp://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1…-denver-broncos-says-hit-was-legal-ready-play
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – Denver Broncos wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders said Friday he’s ready to play Sunday against the Miami Dolphins and that St. Louis Rams safety Rodney McLeod made “a legal hit” on the tackle that resulted in Sanders’ concussion.
Sanders did add, however, he believed McLeod could have made more of an attempt to go for the ball rather than the hit.
“I think it was a legal hit,” Sanders said after Friday’s practice. “Obviously, [McLeod] didn’t hit me in the head or lead with the head. He hit me with the shoulder. But in terms of the intentions of targeting, I feel like the guy could have had an opportunity to go for the ball, but I think his intentions the whole time were to come over and deliver a blow. That’s the only thing that I’m not too happy about.
“I feel like the National Football League, although it is a violent game, you’re also supposed to protect your brother. And most free safeties, they like interceptions. Obviously, his intent was to try and make a statement, and I guess he did.”
Sanders was knocked out of last Sunday’s 22-7 Broncos loss on the fourth play of the second half. Peyton Manning threw a ball deep up the right sideline and McLeod arrived, with shoulder to shoulder contact, asSanders was diving to try to make the catch.
Friday was also the first time Sanders had spoken extensively about the play.
“Yeah, I remember the play,” Sanders said. “I remember everything. I had a go ball, I had the corner one-on-one, and I had beat the corner, and I was actually open, and I was running, and I laid out for the ball, and he came over and he didn’t even look at the ball the entire time, he was just looking at me and ready to hit me.”
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”><span class=”d4pbbc-font-size” style=”font-size: 14px”>Well Sanders was definitely not a defenseless player. I don’t want my FS going for picks ,I want him doing his job as the last line of defense and saving a TD. McCleod took a lot of care in hitting a very quickly moving small target within the rules which is not an easy task in todays NFL.He did protect his brother not hitting with his helmet not hitting Sanders in the head or knees.That said I could understand that hit scaring the crap out of him but this is the NFL and the Rams D is going to hit as hard and often as they can,it’s what great D’s do. </span></span>
I wonder what former players like Ronnie Lott and Toby Wright think about a quote like this:
“But in terms of the intentions of targeting, I feel like the guy could have had an opportunity to go for the ball, but I think his intentions the whole time were to come over and deliver a blow. That’s the only thing that I’m not too happy about.
“I feel like the National Football League, although it is a violent game, you’re also supposed to protect your brother. And most free safeties, they like interceptions. Obviously, his intent was to try and make a statement, and I guess he did.”
DakParticipant2, 3 and 4.
I think they’ve turned a corner. Even if the Rams had to go with Bradford and Hill again next year, this team should have the talent and depth to compete … especially if they’re in the same defensive and offensive system another year. There’s a lot to say for consistency in the NFL. If you can get a good system and stick with it, you can interchange some of the players and be competitive year in, year out.
I know people are going to want to draft a QB in the 1st round next year no matter what, but I think this franchise is to a point where they just need to go BPA and build. I’d rather see a rookie QB with promise in the middle rounds, who wouldn’t be expected to start right away, because I think a cagy veteran is the better bet with this team.
DakParticipantMagnificent. I am loving this D. If they can continue to understand their roles, and snot knock people (without the flags) we could be on to something.
I’ll tell you what. They put on a clinic on how to hit wide receivers legally, and still make an impact in the defensive backfield. The McCleod penalty was just a ref thinking, “Boy, that hit was way too hard not to be a penalty. I better throw this flag or expect hell from the league office.”
DakParticipantI’m not a betting man, but if I were, I’d take the Rams and the points (I think 4-1/2) in this game. I expect the Rams to come out on top. Prediction: 19-14
DakParticipantWow, those were fun to watch. Truly, it was a great team effort with a lot of really good individual plays. That’s a great defensive effort. Hope to see the same in San Diego.
The one guy we need to stop doing stupid things: Jenkins. He just needs to play smart. He doesn’t need to cheat on the ball, or get personal fouls. It looks to me that TruJo is our best CB now. His injury likely had something to do with the defense’s regression earlier this year.
DakParticipantThanks for compiling those quotes, zn. I really think that Hill’s play was the biggest thing aside from the D, and if he keeps playing like this, the Rams will be a tough out for any opponent.
DakParticipantI’m calling 9-7 right now. They will lose another game, no doubt. Probably something stupid, like to Oakland at home. But, this team will kill with Hill, win with Quinn, give spankin’s with Jenkins, spring free with ‘Tree, get cray-cray with Tre Tre, give a shit with Britt, cook with Cook, and so forth.
But, yeah, the postseason remains a dream.
DakParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Zooey wrote:</div>
What I have heard is more and more from Fisher about how much Quinn is being held. Fisher said that right now, the officials aren’t looking for that hold call on the outside, and they need to start paying attention to it. He says that Quinn is held much of the game, and it takes away from what the Rams are trying to do on defense (obviously). I wonder if we’ll start getting a few more calls in upcoming games.Fisher should be screaming about it. It is not only frequent, it’s blatant. Go back and watch the game. Denver’s RT could have been flagged for holding at least a dozen times. Headlocks, clotheslines, grabbing the helmet, grabbing the inside of Quinn’s shoulder pads… Gotta give the guy credit, he used every hold available.
The Rams need to make this official and contact the league. I know they can’t publicly complain about officiating, but when it’s that flagrant it has to be addressed, somehow.
If I weren’t so damn lazy, I’d put together some gifs of the holds JUST from the Denver game.
Poor Quinn…
Fisher is pretty public in talking about it right now. He might be able to do this because he’s talking about an issue, and that issue, according to him, is that officials aren’t looking for this particular hold due to where they’re training their eyes during the play. That’s probably B.S., and it’s more likely that officials just aren’t going to call the hold almost every down. What’s interesting to me is that Quinn drew a holding call the very first play of the game. Seems like too often we see officials make a call and then swallow the whistle. The one play where they won’t do that is illegal movement before the snap. Holding or pass interference shouldn’t be any different.
November 20, 2014 at 3:26 pm in reply to: Rams defense, rankings last 3 games v. 10 game rankings #12243DakParticipantIf they can eliminate mistakes in the defensive secondary, this defense can be dominant, simple as that.
DakParticipantI hadn’t heard that, either, zn.
What I have heard is more and more from Fisher about how much Quinn is being held. Fisher said that right now, the officials aren’t looking for that hold call on the outside, and they need to start paying attention to it. He says that Quinn is held much of the game, and it takes away from what the Rams are trying to do on defense (obviously). I wonder if we’ll start getting a few more calls in upcoming games.
DakParticipantfearsomefour
A couple of huge plays early in the third quarter.
Denver’s first possession they ran a well executed WR screen to Sanders. There were two well executed blocks and Sanders had a big play, likely a TD in front of him. Brockers ran the play down from behind and tackled him around the ankles. The Rams went on to get a D stop and remain ahead 13-7. Brockers has been a bit unsung this season but that play showed great hustle and “want”. Starting a pass rush, getting off the block and out of the traffic of the middle of the line and running down a WR on the outside to save a TD….big, big play.
Also, on the Rams possession that started at 12:29 in the third quarter Hill made two very good plays. First on the 3rd and 3 and under pressure from the pass rush Hill did not panic, he slid out to the his left (not a sprint….eyes downfield) and made a nice back shoulder throw to Cunningham to convert a third down.
Later in the same possession under major pressure, again on third down, Hill slid in the pocket and stepped up making an accurate throw to Cunningham before getting hit by two Broncos….again, Cunningham picking up the first down.
These are not big plays on the stat sheet, but, these kinds of plays that a vet QB can give you hold so much value for a team, especially for one that is playing very good D. The ability to remain calm under the pass rush, keep they eyes downfield and keep possession is huge. Instead of a three and out the Rams ended up punting at 8:19 of the third quarter. No points on the drive, but, changing field position (something not done in recent weeks) and holding the ball for 4:10 effectively took a possession away from Denver’s dangerous offense.
Also, Kendricks played a role in limiting the Bronco pass rush. He was schemed in a lot and helped block those quick outside rushers.
A great team win with a lot of contributors. We may look back and say this was the game that started the upward swing in the Fisher era.
Yes, I remember all of those plays he mentions here. And, they were all huge. Making a play here and there adds up big time. In past weeks, seems like the Rams were missing plays here and there, instead. So, we go from negative plays to positive plays, and voila, a great team win.
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DakParticipantInteresting thing about Hill from the Jeff Fisher Show: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jeff-fisher-show-november-17/ . Fisher of course praises the poise, consistency, quick decisions. But, Hill helped a lot in the running game by audibling out of bad run calls to the pass, and audibling into good run calls out of the pass. Fisher says a lot of what made the run game work was because of Hill doing that.
I saw that. Interesting stuff.
You’re probably right about Fisher not changing his QB because they won the SF game. I think that’s the wrong way to think. I mean, that game was a toss-up at the end there, and the Rams were lucky with that fumble at the goal line. Hell, they could have just as easily ruled that a TD. So, how does that affect whether Austin Davis should get another chance? Strange.
DakParticipantStrauss’s piece was a good read.
DakParticipantBest Rams win since….. ?
That’s a good question. It depends on what happens next. Do the Rams take this win and build on it? If they do, it’s the most important win they’ve had since the GSOT days, probably.
DakParticipantInstead of the usual two or three checks that Laurinaitis can make out of certain offensive looks, the Rams had six or seven. On defensive tackle Aaron Donald’s fourth-down sack in the fourth quarter, Laurinaitis got called out as the MIC linebacker by Broncos rookie center Will Montgomery. Laurinaitis had shown blitz but offered a subtle change at the line of scrimmage, switching the side where he lined up in an effort to create enough confusion to throw the Broncos off.
At the snap, Montgomery took the bait and end Robert Quinn peeled around the inside to Manning. Quinn was unable to bring Manning down, but Donald cleaned it up for a sack.
And the tweaks weren’t just based out of blitz looks, either. On cornerback Trumaine Johnson’s fourth-quarter interception, the Rams showed a normal Cover 3 look before the snap, something Manning had probably seen plenty of times in his tape study. But Williams had installed a different coverage from the same look earlier in the week and Manning threw down the right sideline where Johnson made an acrobatic interception.
“As long as all 11 are on the same page, we’ll be all right,” Laurinaitis said. “That’s a great job by the defensive coaching staff knowing it would come to that and the best part about Gregg Williams is he gives me the freedom to call stuff if I don’t want to check and the feeling of the play just isn’t right, we play the call. A couple of times it happened and a couple of times he checked. It was the combination of a great game plan and just executing.”
That’s all very interesting stuff. This D is finally getting to a place where it can cause havoc through subtle changes, and JL’s play calls are making a difference. This should be fun the rest of the season.
DakParticipantYou know what would be fun? Running through the AFC West for 3 straight wins. Let’s do that, and then I’ll answer the question.
DakParticipantThe Rams were pretty good against Seattle, too, except Wilson got loose for some big runs.
DakParticipantThat Jello pie is not pie!
DakParticipantNick Wagoner @nwagoner
Three wins against 2013 conference finalists.Wow. And, gave Arizona everything could handle until the late offensive meltdown.
DakParticipantI still think part of the O-line looking better is Hill getting rid of the ball quickly. Being at home helped, too. A lot of times Austin Davis held onto the ball and left the pocket when he sensed pressure. It’s amazing what quicker decision-making can do for pass protection. There’s a reason that Peyton Manning has so few sacks over the years.
November 16, 2014 at 4:26 pm in reply to: pickem entry forms available for weeks 12, 13 and 14 #11959DakParticipantI take it back. I hit saved again and saw all of my picks.
Here’s the thing that keeps tripping me up. I keep thinking the second team is the home team, but it’s the opposite.
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