Shafter, TX. Apropos.

zn wrote:

<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”><span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: #FF0000″>was considered too weak to undergo shoulder surgery following a recent injury</span>.

Too weak to undergo shoulder surgery yet he goes on a hunting trip for quail in which he is shooting a shotgun? A shotgun that doesn’t kick with the recoil? Oops shouldn’t overthink anything for fear of being called a conspiracy theorist!

Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

There is reason. Because of the office he held and the 180 degree effect upon likely upcoming 5-4 decisions before the court his Obama nominated replacement will cause. That is called motive.

But it isn’t the sheriff’s job to do all that political calculating, and especially not to worry about the implications to the court decisions.

A guy died. His OWN doctor and the sheriffs on hand said it was natural causes. Totally routine. It’s paperwork from there. Just declare him dead. Ask the family what they want to do. And the family said to take him to a funeral home and get on with it without an autopsy. That’s it.

All this political calculation and second-guessing and invention of assassination is crazy internet political people doing their crazy internet thing.

Sorry.

But the legal authorities don’t make their decisions based on what fringe political citizens in some other state are going to dream up.

And as a fringe political citizen in another state myself, I’ve already told you I would think an autopsy would have been appropriate.

But the absence of that move does not concern me for all the reasons that have already been stated.

His doctor. The local sheriffs. His family. Really. All with 10,000 times more first hand knowledge than you or me. Eye witnesses. They all say the guy died in his sleep. A man of deteriorating health who was nearly 80.

I mean…that’s it.

The sheriff isn’t a coroner. He isn’t qualified to rule on the cause of death. Scalia’s doctor didn’t see the body and only said he had various ailments none of which kept him from working or hunting. There were no eyewitnesses to his death. Death could have been natural. That is what the ignorant rely upon. They hope it is enough by denying an autopsy. Yet with so many nearly undetectable ways in which to induce death to appear to be by natural causes an autopsy of such a powerful government official is warranted. Different toxicological tests performed and tissue samples saved to allow more thorough testing in the future. To make a couple phone calls and have the decision made over the phone is as expected in a banana republic.

Zooey wrote:

Why mandate an autopsy when there is no reason to suspect foul play?

There is reason. Because of the office he held and the 180 degree effect upon likely upcoming 5-4 decisions before the court his Obama nominated replacement will cause. That is called motive.

Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

Theres a lot more than 10 but that will do for a start. Background in article.

Gulf of Tonkin Incident
Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Project MKUltra
Operation Northwoods
CIA Drug Trafficking
Operation Mockingbird
COINTELPRO
Operation Snow White
Secret Global Economic Policies
The US Government Illegally Spies on its own citizens

http://theantimedia.org/10-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/

I don’t recognize all of those, but what the ones that I do recognize have in common is actual evidence.

As opposed to the Absence of Evidence (negative evidence) being used as evidence.

So the Scalia conspiracy used the absence of an autopsy as evidence of foul play whereas what would really be impressive would be actual evidence such as signs of struggle or injury. And the suffocation by pillow allegation is truly silly. It takes an estimated 5 minutes to suffocate someone with a pillow, and there would certainly have been a struggle. It works on infants and people who are completely infirm, and nobody else.

And while the death decree was made remotely, it was after talking to the sheriffs and Scalia’s doctor who said there was no evidence of foul play.

Just in terms of the credibility of evidence, there is evidence stacked on the side of natural causes, and nothing – except the absence of an autopsy – to suggest otherwise. But the absence of evidence is not evidence.

And none of the conspiracies above were proven to be true by using negative evidence.

I was not aware that I ever claimed a conspiracy. Much less a conspiracy with such details as suffocation by pillow? Funny how many ran with it like a scalded trout, slamming anything that might suggest a conspiracy. All I’ve ever written is what was reported and my disbelief that the unexpected death of the highest government official in office since President Kennedy didn’t warrant an autopsy. You can cite negative evidence all you want but without an autopsy there is no credible evidence to substantiate the true cause of death. That is why autopsies are performed.

Theres a lot more than 10 but that will do for a start. Background in article.

Gulf of Tonkin Incident
Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
Project MKUltra
Operation Northwoods
CIA Drug Trafficking
Operation Mockingbird
COINTELPRO
Operation Snow White
Secret Global Economic Policies
The US Government Illegally Spies on its own citizens

http://theantimedia.org/10-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/

Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

A supreme court justice unexpectedly dies in office. Despite your prejudice such a death deserves an autopsy.

His family doesn’t agree with you.

But then, maybe they are in on it.

Most families do not want an autopsy performed especially when it is described in detail which is why government orders most all autopsies in order to arrive at the real cause of death.

A supreme court justice unexpectedly dies in office. Despite your prejudice such a death deserves an autopsy.

TSRF wrote:

If anything, it was self inflicted. Death by twinkees…

Just look at the man! A marvel of evolution his heart was able to soldier on for 79 long years. Plus, the vitriol he spewed had to have a corrosive effect on his system.

OK, I’m being heartless, but fat people usually don’t live to enjoy their golden years, never mind to see 80.

BS.

wv wrote:

I am delighted,
jesus, finally took him
and threw him
in hell.

w
v

It does appear he was taken. The deciding vote, the most reliable vote in opposition to the administrations position in cases to be decided by the supreme court, dies with a pillow over his head at a ranch owned by an Obama supporter and without seeing the body the local coroner rules natural death over the phone thus no autopsy. So convenient and transparent.

Trump needs to come out strongly against the abuse of the H-1B visa program in support of US jobs and it is game over. You can already see the move in the works for a brokered convention and Bush hanging around to be the nominee of compromise.

Similarly Bernie can’t stop the Clinton machine from screwing him out of the nomination. Lots of Iowas to go.

Year after year the Rams are near the top. Must be the 6 games against the NFC West?

That means nothing without good paying jobs after college to be had.

“I loved Terry Crouppen’s super bowl ad message scolding Stan. Did you get a chance to see it?
by MoMike 3:40PM”

Was it only aired in St. Louis?

wv wrote:

Well….I’m still mad at him. I’d
like to hear a little more from HIM
about why he was suspended (for the second time
i think?) and what really happened with
regard to that shooting.
I’m not much interested in how his
priorities are about “God” at this point, blah
blah blah.

…yeah, I’m still irked..

w
v

His recovering from two shots to his head is the bigger story IMO.