Good news!

Great news!

It is slimey. Just like congress exempting itself from the very laws the people are forced to obey.

So McLeod is gone?

nittany ram wrote:

bnw wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

bnw wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

What bothers me the most about Trump is how his racist rhetoric seems to attract voters instead of repel them. I mean, of course he attracts KKK members and white supremacists who wear their hatred on their sleeves and are only too proud to show it. But a larger segment of the population who harbor racist ideals but keep them hidden for the most part now they feel emboldened to openly cheer on his rhetoric. He’s empowered their bigotry which leads to events like the assaulting of people of color at his rallies. I think there’s a substantial segment of white people who are threatened and angered by what they perceive as the ‘browning’ of America and they see Trump as their white savior.

Throwing the racist and bigotry card around won’t work this time. The people are fed up. The two tiered justice system that doesn’t work for the average guy. The two tiered economy that only works for the top 1%. Campaign rhetoric to get elected then the reality of governance for the lobbyists. Under Obama black unemployment has doubled. Playing the race card is ridiculous given the state of the economy and the assault on liberty and personal privacy through never ending Homeland Security excuses. Government that refuses to obey its own laws while imprisoning its citizens at an alarming rate. The people are sick of the hypocrisy. Trump is seen as the candidate willing to right the ship of state.

Well, if mentioning a fact is playing a card, then I guess I’m playing a card. I’m not saying all Trump supporters are racist but being a Trump supporter means you have to support a candidate who espouses racist ideals. To some folks, I guess that doesn’t ‘trump’ his positions on other issues.

Bernie Sanders speaks out against all the things you just listed but he doesn’t attract racist supporters.

What racist ideals does Trump espouse? Ideals, not the projecting of your fear. Give these racist ideals substance. List them. Succinctly describe them. Then I’ll reply in kind to each description from this Trump supporters view. Drive byes are easy. Lets strive for better.

Well, this has all been covered quite extensively in the media. Here’s an example…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

This has to be quick because I have to go to work but let’s look at the hateful rhetoric Trump spewed about Mexicans and other Latinos…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_us_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b

What he said is conclusively incorrect.

Mexicans are actually leaving the US at a higher rate than they’re entering it. And immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than US citizens.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/mexican-immigration-to-u-s-reverses-1447954334

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

One thing the entire Left and Right media agree upon is Trump is bad. He’s not controlled by the Establishment comprised of both parties. He campaigns by stating that loud and clear. He gains great traction by it too. He represents real change. Real change as in a shake up of political patronage in DC. So the entire mind numbing apparatus of mainstream media and their shills and the lobbyist controlled elite of the Establishment have had no effect upon Trump for 8 months. In fact he only gains more support.

Huff hit piece-

Early 1970s- Renters lawsuit- that does smack of prejudice and for that time no doubt business as usual. Its also over 40 years ago. I’m sure rent control contributed to it.

KKK- Really? When so many things around government still bear the name the US senator from WV Robert Byrd a KKK member and supporter?

Birther- Nothing to do with race.

‘THE’ (add group)- Simple semantics not racism. He’s not polished in PC speak. Perhaps some coaching by Biden who noted Obama is “articulate and clean”.

Native American- Business not racist.

Central Park Five- Trump wasn’t alone. Statements by members of the Five admitted being there and taking part in the beating and rape. In the words of Dem frontrunner Hillary Clinton the “superpedators” should be “brought to heel”.

BLM protester- Trump said “maybe”.

homeless Latino man beating passionate- odd that the explanation in HuffPo cites “anti-immigration” when the perps said “all these illegals”. Trump correctly asserts americans are increasingly passionate about the issue of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Stereotyped Jews- No not “Jews”, the REPUBLICAN JEWISH COALITION. From the HuffPo article the link only shows a short contentious piece of heckling from the crowd because Trump wouldn’t commit himself to a position on Jerusalem being an undivided capitol before speaking with the Prime Minister of Israel. It isn’t as if Trump went all Jesse Jackson who shouted “Hymie” and “Hymietown” at a synagogue.

The other HuffPo articles relate to Trump’s use of the term “Mexican” when the issue is “illegal immigration”. Since by far most illegals who cross the border with Mexico are Mexicans this PC gotcha speak gets play. Yet everyone knows he’s speaking about illegal immigrants not a nationality. Illegal immigrants are by definition criminals. Any crime from anyone that has no right to be here is too much.

I do not agree with everything Trump has said nor necessarily the manner in which he says it. But he is speaking about the real issues that divide the people from the actions of the Establishment. The people have had enough. Enough of the wars. Enough of trade deals that cost millions of american’s jobs. Enough of crumbling infrastructure. Enough of being held liable to laws that illegal immigrants and politicians are not. Enough of government by and for lobbyists. Enough of so much more but you get the idea. The people are demanding change. Palpable change.

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Wise move by Osweiler.

waterfield wrote:

In terms of competence Clinton was a top notch state senator and actually won me over on her performance as Secretary of State. Between her and Trump I won’t be holding my nose.

Can’t think of any success she had as Sec. of State. I know she flew all over the world. She gave a big red reset button to the Russian Foreign Minister. But thats it.

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nittany ram wrote:

bnw wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

What bothers me the most about Trump is how his racist rhetoric seems to attract voters instead of repel them. I mean, of course he attracts KKK members and white supremacists who wear their hatred on their sleeves and are only too proud to show it. But a larger segment of the population who harbor racist ideals but keep them hidden for the most part now they feel emboldened to openly cheer on his rhetoric. He’s empowered their bigotry which leads to events like the assaulting of people of color at his rallies. I think there’s a substantial segment of white people who are threatened and angered by what they perceive as the ‘browning’ of America and they see Trump as their white savior.

Throwing the racist and bigotry card around won’t work this time. The people are fed up. The two tiered justice system that doesn’t work for the average guy. The two tiered economy that only works for the top 1%. Campaign rhetoric to get elected then the reality of governance for the lobbyists. Under Obama black unemployment has doubled. Playing the race card is ridiculous given the state of the economy and the assault on liberty and personal privacy through never ending Homeland Security excuses. Government that refuses to obey its own laws while imprisoning its citizens at an alarming rate. The people are sick of the hypocrisy. Trump is seen as the candidate willing to right the ship of state.

Well, if mentioning a fact is playing a card, then I guess I’m playing a card. I’m not saying all Trump supporters are racist but being a Trump supporter means you have to support a candidate who espouses racist ideals. To some folks, I guess that doesn’t ‘trump’ his positions on other issues.

Bernie Sanders speaks out against all the things you just listed but he doesn’t attract racist supporters.

What racist ideals does Trump espouse? Ideals, not the projecting of your fear. Give these racist ideals substance. List them. Succinctly describe them. Then I’ll reply in kind to each description from this Trump supporters view. Drive byes are easy. Lets strive for better.

zn wrote:

I have to admit I am not that high on RF.

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Same here. Rams have to do better.

Excess cap space increases profitability and TV revenue already guarantees a profit.

Zooey wrote:

wv wrote:

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Yeah, i suppose it would be the worst
Dem-Rep combo in my lifetime.

The Corporate-Billionaire-egomaniac
vs. the Corporate-puppet-egomaniac.

They will split 95 percent of the
Amerikan citizens’ votes, as per usual.
Amerikans will flock to the polls
and continue to vote for Dems and Reps.
Like its a law of nature or something.

Meanwhile independent candidates,
like Jill Stein will split the
remaining 5 percent of the votes.

What does that say
about Amerika?

w
v

My son, who is 18, was flipping out after Tuesday. He thinks it’s the end of the world. Basically, he argues, Sanders is the only candidate who, as president, would do anything about climate change that might matter, and that without Sanders as president, it’s Game Over.

I tried to fish around for…something…but I got nothing.

How very odd for an 18 year old prime for the draft when both parties have candidates willing to expand war.

What a baby. Who hasn’t had the police called on them before?

Winnbrad wrote:

All of the above and then some. We’ve reached a point, imo, where the Rams need to sling a lot of shit, and money, on the wall, and see what sticks.

Keenum and Foles is not the way to start the season. We’ve seen that show. It ends at 7-9.

I agree.

Agamemnon wrote:

We are in effect trading money for draft choices. What is~6 million worth in draft currency?

This guy.

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waterfield wrote:

The email fiasco was the very subject of the hearings and not only did she hold her own but she made the republicans look like asses.

Fiasco? Was that before the thousands of emails containing classified information were discovered after having been wiped from HER server in HER bathroom? The FBI is still trying to recover the other thousands of emails wiped from the server. Immunity from prosecution was given to the underling who installed the server. Following the smoke to the fire it appears. No wiggle room on this.