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  • in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46105
    bnw
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    And so you can think what you want, but, I am staying within the intelligible parameters of understanding what the legal definitions are of domestic and international terrorism, instead of participating in the whole “have an agenda, change the word” phenomena right now.

    I know you like to continue old fights, but I was done with the hiroshima discussion and fully acknowledge that we see it very differently. I know there was some “ah but my opinion is the truth” stuff going on with that but I regard that as par for the course in discussions like this.

    My eye is on the actual legal definition of terrorism and what it means.

    You assume far too much in these discussions. It’s the biggest reason why you and I have these disagreements. You are forever assuming you just know the real motives behind my posts, and you don’t. You never have. You’re actually quite tin-eared about these things, routinely, primarily because you’re so certain you do know the hidden rationale behind all things. Judging from the ways you consistently mischaracterize them, your certainty is misplaced. Severely misplaced.

    Please just stop. Take them on face value, or please just ignore them altogether.

    I said what I said because I believe it to be true, not because I “have an agenda.”

    Both of you are guilty of making the poster the issue. That is expressly against the rules and will not be permitted. The moderator should know better.

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    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46101
    bnw
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    Yet he is a registered DEMOCRAT. Oops.

    I really appreciate everyone who posts here and all the contributions.

    That said, don’t fucking do that. Just fucking don’t. Don’t play puerile politics days after the mass murder of 50 people.

    There is no political party affiliation that makes any difference here.

    The man had serious mental illness. The man may or may not have engaged in terrorism in addition to the hate crime it clearly was.

    You know what doesn’t matter? What corporate fucking club he belonged to.

    So can we please NOT?

    If for no other reason than out of respect for the dead.

    Respect for the dead demands we can’t say he is a registered democrat? I disagree. The democrats are using this to try to deny our 2nd Amendment right. You know it too. It was an act of terrorism. You know that too.

    Sure. But it is just as logical to point out that he worked as a security guard.

    But you don’t do that because it doesn’t serve your political itch.

    Mackeyser is right. You are politicizing mass murder to serve your own interest.

    No I’m not. But those calling for more gun control sure are…..and they are DEMOCRATS.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46065
    bnw
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    Yes the keeping pace with technology was the reality at the time of the Revolutionary War and the BOR and has been interpreted as that ever since through the various advances in firearms technology.

    No, bnw. There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution or the BOR to support that reading. Nothing. “Keeping up with the pace of technology” does not exist in our “founding” docs. Not implied, suggested, remotely, indirectly, etc. etc. Not implicit or explicit.

    And no one but fringe gun fanatics ever push that “interpretation,” which is really cover for an even fringier ideology: That certain citizens believe they must keep up with the firepower of our military in order to crush it, if they deem it “tyrannical.” Of course, the Don’t Tread on Me crowd sees things like taxes and Medicare as “tyrannical,” so they’re not really the best folks to listen to when it comes to government overreach.

    And I say that as someone who sees our political system as illegitimate. I see both parties as illegitimate. I want an end to the capitalism regime of terror and oppression. Yesterday. But I want it to end through the democratic process, not guns. The Don’t Tread on Me crowd has a collective Red Dawn fantasy, and if we go down that road, tens of millions will die and we’ll likely end up with fascism.

    In short, fuck that.

    I said in “reality”. And undeniably in spirit too. Which is why civilian ownership of firearms has always kept pace with technology.

    Oh Billy….take away firearms and I guarantee you will have fascism. And don’t bring up Australia or the UK since I’ve been to both and they are not the USA. The UK may well wish it has a 2nd Amendment with the way that culture is heading.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46060
    bnw
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    Washington mandated weapons for the militia, and that citizens pay for these themselves. It was perhaps the very first mandate in American history.

    I have no idea why you’re not getting this. There is no confiscation of weapons being proposed by the Dems. None. If we ban the sale of certain KINDS of weapons — weapons of mass destruction like the AR-15 that no civilian should be ABLE to get — you still can buy thousands of different kinds of guns. Your “right” hasn’t been touched. Your SA rights are still 100% intact.

    Again, nowhere in the amendment does it say you have a right to any kind of gun your heart desires, without limitations, forever, forever able to keep up with the latest technological advances in lethality and capacity. Nowhere. It’s not in there, implied, hinted at, suggested, implicit or explicit.

    So we as a society SHOULD ban weapons that make killing sprees easy. It’s insane not to. No one has any need of such weapons UNLESS they want to go on those killing sprees.

    Think about it, bnw. There is no other reason to own one.

    Yes the keeping pace with technology was the reality at the time of the Revolutionary War and the BOR and has been interpreted as that ever since through the various advances in firearms technology.

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    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46053
    bnw
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    I would call anyone carrying out mass murder a terrorist.

    Then the word “terrorism” does not mean anything.

    It makes no sense, for example, to say that James Holmes, who shot up the movie theater in Colorado, was a “terrorist.” And did you call the Charleston shooter a terrorist when it happened?

    Of course Holmes was a terrorist. Mass murder is terrorism.

    From FBI.gov-

    Definitions of Terrorism in the U.S. Code

    18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines “international terrorism” and “domestic terrorism” for purposes of Chapter 113B of the Code, entitled “Terrorism”:

    “International terrorism” means activities with the following three characteristics:

    Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
    Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
    Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*
    “Domestic terrorism” means activities with the following three characteristics:

    Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
    Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
    Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
    18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term “federal crime of terrorism” as an offense that:

    Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
    Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).
    * FISA defines “international terrorism” in a nearly identical way, replacing “primarily” outside the U.S. with “totally” outside the U.S. 50 U.S.C. § 1801(c).

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    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46052
    bnw
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    Btw, you should capitalize “Democrat.” Hopefully, we’re all “democrats” here. As in, lovers of democracy.

    No, we’re a republic.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46051
    bnw
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    No, bnw.

    The right as put forth in the BOR was a collective one. It was ONLY in the context of a well-regulated state militia, for the purpose of protecting that state. It doesn’t say, anywhere, that you get to keep up with the latest technology or purchase military-style hardware, if you’re not in the military.

    Yes, you have the right of self-defense. But that was yours centuries before the BOR was written. The British recognized that right among the colonies.

    The BOR merely encoded a collective right for purposes of staffing and stocking state militias. And since they no longer exist, the entire rationale for that “right” is gone. It no longer exists, like those slave-catching militias.

    We, as a society, have always had the right to prevent people from arming yourself to the teeth and going off on killing sprees, and nothing in the Constitution, and nothing in the BOR transcends society’s right to protect itself from them.

    It’s time we grew up and ended our sick gun fetishism and our fear of the NRA. Literally millions of Americans are dead because of that fetishism and that fear.

    Wrong again.

    “Amendment II

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    The militia at that time was comprised of citizen volunteers who brought their own weapons. Therefore citizens already had their weapons. The 2nd amendment addresses two separate things. The first was the necessity of the militia. The second was the people HAVE the right to keep and bear arms. The two parts clearly dove tail. “the right of the people” part was in direct response to the British confiscating firearms.

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    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46037
    bnw
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    The shooter pledged allegiance to the leader of ISIS. That is terrorism.

    I see a nutcase who never had anything to do with radical fundamentalist Islamic politics in his entire life who in the end made some kind of stupid statement. I just take that statement as the kind of thing a nutcase would do. He was motivated by the fact that he saw 2 men kissing in front of his son. In fact he was nutcase enough that he was shocked his son would see that, but is fine with his son knowing he’s a mass murderer. But we don’t expect logic from a nutcase.

    Or you can be consistent and call the Charleston shootings terrorism, since he said he did it to start a race war and was heavily identified with white supremacists.

    I call them both nutcases. You can call them both terrorists if you want to be consistent.

    Oh and I grew up in Canada, which owns more guns per capita than the USA. My father paid his way through grad school by being a scout and leader for hunting expeditions. He had a nice collection of hunting rifles. He was showing me how to use a rifle when I was 10-11 or so.

    The USA (ranked #1) has more guns per capita than Canada (ranked #12). The USA per 100 people has 112.6 vs. Canada per 100 people has 30.8.

    I would call anyone carrying out mass murder a terrorist.

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    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46029
    bnw
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    Yet he is a registered DEMOCRAT. Oops.

    I really appreciate everyone who posts here and all the contributions.

    That said, don’t fucking do that. Just fucking don’t. Don’t play puerile politics days after the mass murder of 50 people.

    There is no political party affiliation that makes any difference here.

    The man had serious mental illness. The man may or may not have engaged in terrorism in addition to the hate crime it clearly was.

    You know what doesn’t matter? What corporate fucking club he belonged to.

    So can we please NOT?

    If for no other reason than out of respect for the dead.

    Respect for the dead demands we can’t say he is a registered democrat? I disagree. The democrats are using this to try to deny our 2nd Amendment right. You know it too. It was an act of terrorism. You know that too.

    Why does it matter what party he was registered with? He obviously wasn’t against gun ownership. The motivation behind shooting all those people had nothing to do with political parties or gun rights. His motivation was homophobia ignited by extreme mental issues.

    His motivation was radical islamic extremism.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46028
    bnw
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    The democrats are using this to try to deny our 2nd Amendment right. You know it too. It was an act of terrorism. You know that too.

    See we;re not very big on the simplistic party trashing discourse. The discussion on this forum should be better than that. I get Mack’s point.

    And no, you are probably the only one here who believes someone is trying to “deny rights.” You are free to assert it all you want, but, no one else “knows” that…here anyway, that’s just you who believes that.

    And many people, me included, don’t think it was an “act of terrorism.” From everything I see, this is just a normal homophobe nutcase who lost it (actually he made other employees he worked with quit because of his open racism.) Some people want to make politics out of it though so to them it becomes “Islamic terrorism.” Sorry I just see another american mass killer nutcase. Like the Charleston shootings.

    Wow. You must have missed the posts about Scalia’s death? Those were very simplistic. I may be the only one here who knows that the 2nd Amendment right is threatened. Then again I may be the only one who exercises their 2nd Amendment right. The shooter pledged allegiance to the leader of ISIS. That is terrorism.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #46023
    bnw
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    Yet he is a registered DEMOCRAT. Oops.

    I really appreciate everyone who posts here and all the contributions.

    That said, don’t fucking do that. Just fucking don’t. Don’t play puerile politics days after the mass murder of 50 people.

    There is no political party affiliation that makes any difference here.

    The man had serious mental illness. The man may or may not have engaged in terrorism in addition to the hate crime it clearly was.

    You know what doesn’t matter? What corporate fucking club he belonged to.

    So can we please NOT?

    If for no other reason than out of respect for the dead.

    Respect for the dead demands we can’t say he is a registered democrat? I disagree. The democrats are using this to try to deny our 2nd Amendment right. You know it too. It was an act of terrorism. You know that too.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46022
    bnw
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    In short, we’ve never, ever had the right to an AR-15. We could easily ban their sale, manufacture, trade, import, export and possession while still adhering to the Second Amendment.

    The Equal Protection Clause, General Welfare Clause, Necessary and Proper Clause, and Commerce Clause, all support this.

    And we should. We should stop making it so easy for Americans to slaughter each other. That’s just pure common sense. Any sane society would do as much.

    We’ve always had the right. Especially in regards to the small arms technology of the day. Don’t worry about the AR-15 as it is soon to be obsolete. Much more effective weapons in the pipeline. Question is whether the M16 will then be made available for sale through the DCM in the semi-auto version. Same for the M14. Obama last year did allow the DCM to sell M1911 .45 cal. to civilians.

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    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46021
    bnw
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    Right on, bnw!

    I want to exercise my 2nd amendment rights. I want a 40 mm grenade launcher. Better yet, I want artillery, 155 mm. What, I can’t? But why, don’t I have the right??

    Please understand, to me, your argument of exercising your 2nd Amendment right with regard to long guns just makes you sound silly.

    No not at all since you can buy and possess both of those. The 40 mm grenade launcher is Class 3 and grenades are available at $10 each. Good news is you can reload the grenades. So go on and have your fun. I just inspected a number of civilian owned artillery pieces and tanks this last weekend. Most impressive was a Wehrmacht 88 mm artillery piece.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46020
    bnw
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    well it’s tricky. yes as it stands now we have the right to bear arms. now does that mean we have the right to bear a nuclear warhead? well no. selling nuclear warheads at your local walmart might not be a sound idea. so where does one draw the line? i do know this. the ar-15. it’s an easy way to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

    as far as the black market argument i don’t know the validity of that either way.

    Yet the line won’t be drawn at the AR-15. It will deny all semi-autos. There’s nothing magical nor mystical about the AR-15. There is a terrible glut of them in the used market these days. Prices have fallen sharply over the last 2 years too. So many people are trying to sell them now that most shops won’t take them on consignment or if they do it is only because the seller has been a good customer. Madeen chose the .223 caliber SIG Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle which among the variants would be ideal in such close quarters. It also remains to be seen if he wasn’t alone in the attack since witnesses have been coming forward stating that there was more than one gunman.

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    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #46006
    bnw
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    Here’s what I know: The guy had an AR-15. He killed almost 50 people and wounded over 50 more. That weapon should be illegal. Period. I don’t care what you call it.

    I call it throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    If that’s what it takes.

    Fine for you. But you don’t speak for me. You’re free to not exercise your 2nd Amendment right.

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    in reply to: Bernie, Jill, Nader, Trump… #45988
    bnw
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    Good to know your conscience can vote for the racist influence peddling war mongering rapist enabling candidate.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45987
    bnw
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    Here’s what I know: The guy had an AR-15. He killed almost 50 people and wounded over 50 more. That weapon should be illegal. Period. I don’t care what you call it.

    I call it throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #45983
    bnw
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    Yet he is a registered DEMOCRAT. Oops.

    And apparently against gun control.

    No he had gun control.

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    in reply to: Omar Mateen and Rightwing Homophobia #45981
    bnw
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    Yet he is a registered DEMOCRAT. Oops.

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    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45979
    bnw
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    BNW that is not at all an accurate definition. The M1 was an assault rifle , it didn’t get selective fire until 1944. At the time the 2nd amendment was written assault rifles were muskets. Semi-autos are not at all better for hunting. Bolt action hunting rifles are superior in accuracy and safety. An idiot with a semi-auto 30.06 is the reason I retired from rifle hunting. If I can take deer with one arrow you damn sure don’t need a 40 round clip on your AK or AR. My own thoughts on the problem in general are to concentrate on getting and keeping firearms out of the hands of crazy people. The current “background check” is a joke. It’s more of a customer service survey on the honor system than a legitimate background check.

    It is absolutely the ACCURATE description. The M1 to which you refer is the carbine. Granted according to the moronic rules of the ’90s it indeed possessed the attributes the Clinton Administration created to confuse the public and profit its campaign donors. The government and the press called the legislation the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 whereas the the actual name of the legislation was the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. For those unaware of the moronic rules of that legislation for an assault rifle-

    Under the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 the definition of “semiautomatic assault weapon” included specific semi-automatic firearm models by name, and other semi-automatic firearms that possessed two or more from a set certain features:[11]

    Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

    Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Bayonet mount
    Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
    Grenade launcher mount

    Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

    Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
    Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
    Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
    Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
    A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

    Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
    Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Detachable magazine.

    That law confused people who do not know firearms. It also made political supporters of Clinton a lot of money by importing weapons such as the M1 Carbine which met the ridiculous criteria but in no way was ever considered an assault rifle. I asked this very question of an ATF agent at that time who agreed with me and further stated the agency is not at all concerned with that rifle. The imported M1 carbines brought increasingly higher prices by the restriction on imports. Pure profit to the importers. Increased prices for all pre-ban variants of other firearms too. It was never about safety. It was always about money.

    Cosmetic features[edit]
    Gun control advocates and gun rights advocates have referred to at least some of the features outlined in the federal Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 as cosmetic. The NRA Institute for Legislative Action and the Violence Policy Center both used the term in publications they released in September 2004 when the ban expired.[13][14] In May 2012, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said, “the inclusion in the list of features that were purely cosmetic in nature created a loophole that allowed manufacturers to successfully circumvent the law by making minor modifications to the weapons they already produced.”[15] The term was repeated in several stories after the 2012 Aurora shooting and Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[16][17]

    ER,

    Had to leave earlier so couldn’t fully address your comment on the M1 Carbine until now. The carbine was not intended for front line fighting. It was for support troops that might find themselves in a fight. It replaced the side arm issued to these troops since it had far greater accuracy at much greater range. Since it weighed much less than the M1 Garand and the Thompson submachine gun many troops went out of their way to acquire one in the field. The M1A1 was a carbine with a folding stock only which was reserved for paratroops. The M2 Carbine was the full auto version. Since minor mods were required to enable the M1 Carbine to fire full auto many were later converted as well.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45976
    bnw
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    So I’m not allowed to respond to your post? Every time I do I get a 403 Forbidden message.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 5 months ago by bnw.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45962
    bnw
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    BNW that is not at all an accurate definition. The M1 was an assault rifle , it didn’t get selective fire until 1944. At the time the 2nd amendment was written assault rifles were muskets. Semi-autos are not at all better for hunting. Bolt action hunting rifles are superior in accuracy and safety. An idiot with a semi-auto 30.06 is the reason I retired from rifle hunting. If I can take deer with one arrow you damn sure don’t need a 40 round clip on your AK or AR. My own thoughts on the problem in general are to concentrate on getting and keeping firearms out of the hands of crazy people. The current “background check” is a joke. It’s more of a customer service survey on the honor system than a legitimate background check.

    It is absolutely the ACCURATE description. The M1 to which you refer is the carbine. Granted according to the moronic rules of the ’90s it indeed possessed the attributes the Clinton Administration created to confuse the public and profit its campaign donors. The government and the press called the legislation the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 whereas the the actual name of the legislation was the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. For those unaware of the moronic rules of that legislation for an assault rifle-

    Under the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 the definition of “semiautomatic assault weapon” included specific semi-automatic firearm models by name, and other semi-automatic firearms that possessed two or more from a set certain features:[11]

    Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

    Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Bayonet mount
    Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
    Grenade launcher mount

    Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

    Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
    Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
    Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
    Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
    A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

    Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
    Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Detachable magazine.

    That law confused people who do not know firearms. It also made political supporters of Clinton a lot of money by importing weapons such as the M1 Carbine which met the ridiculous criteria but in no way was ever considered an assault rifle. I asked this very question of an ATF agent at that time who agreed with me and further stated the agency is not at all concerned with that rifle. The imported M1 carbines brought increasingly higher prices by the restriction on imports. Pure profit to the importers. Increased prices for all pre-ban variants of other firearms too. It was never about safety. It was always about money.

    Cosmetic features[edit]
    Gun control advocates and gun rights advocates have referred to at least some of the features outlined in the federal Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 as cosmetic. The NRA Institute for Legislative Action and the Violence Policy Center both used the term in publications they released in September 2004 when the ban expired.[13][14] In May 2012, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said, “the inclusion in the list of features that were purely cosmetic in nature created a loophole that allowed manufacturers to successfully circumvent the law by making minor modifications to the weapons they already produced.”[15] The term was repeated in several stories after the 2012 Aurora shooting and Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[16][17]

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45958
    bnw
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    Registration = Confiscation

    An a-hole can commit mass murder with a suicide vest too. With a car. With a gas can. With chemical reactions producing toxic gases. With an airplane. With a drone aircraft. It is literally limitless and stems from a sick mind not a firearm of any kind.

    We have to register our cars. Has that led to confiscation? No. It’s pure alarmist nonsense to try to equate registration with confiscation.

    Our government exists to serve business. That is its Prime Directive. Gun sales are BIG business. It’s not going to confiscate guns and destroy that business. It’s nothing but paranoid delusion/Alex Jones conspiracy nonsense to suggest otherwise.

    As for the rest. Logic tells us to do our best to minimize the chances of death. To radically improve the odds in the favor of our survival. Parents do their best to “child proof” their homes, for instance. Sure, you still have tragedies. But you have far fewer because smart people move the poison to some place their kids can’t find. We have speed limits not in order to create total perfection and the total absence of accidents and deaths due to speeding. We do it to reduce them to the degree possible.

    Tell me, why wouldn’t you willingly trade in your easy access to high powered weaponry, in order to secure the lives of thousands? Why wouldn’t EVERY American make that all too minimal “sacrifice”? In exchange for a modified range of weaponry, and a little bit of extra paperwork, why wouldn’t you jump at this when it means saving lives? And it does. And your continued insistence that we can’t have common sense restrictions on guns means the continuation of tens of thousands of Americans dying because of guns. JUST because of guns.

    No people are dying because of the influences on sick minds that are never addressed. Violent video games were developed for the military to desensitize soldiers to shooting someone. Now parents buy these very same games used by the military for their kids. Hollywood glorifies and profits from gun violence in the most obscene manner. Ban ’em Billy.

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45956
    bnw
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    So can this be the Rodney King moment when we finally acknowledge that there’s STILL real danger in simply being part of the LGBT+ community?

    I don’t care how many episodes of Will & Grace are shown, how many seasons of Orange is the New Black are streaming on Netflix… it’s fucking dangerous to be part of the LGBTQPIA+ community.

    What’s especially scary to me is that my trans child is trying to venture out into the world and this is the shit my child is still looking at. I can wear all the purple rainbow shirts I want, but they wouldn’t have stopped any of those bullets.

    It’s enough. It’s enough. It’s enough.

    What is the QPIA+?

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    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45955
    bnw
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    bnw,

    I’m saying ban all of them. Semi-automatic, assault weapons, whatever you might want to call them. Anything with any kind of detachable, external ammo container, of any kind, of any size. Ban ’em. Ban all accessories dealing with them.

    The only allowable guns should be those with internal chambers only, and max that out at six. You should have to load your bullets by hand, one at a time, and no gun should be able to accommodate more than six at a time.

    That, to me, is the best compromise. This ensures the ability of all citizens to own weapons for self-protection, hunting and target practice, but it doesn’t give them the ability to rapidly slaughter dozens or hundreds of their fellow Americans.

    Throw in licensing and registration, which we do with cars. End the ban on gun violence research, which was a fascist form of suppression in the first place.

    Force “smart gun” technology as soon as it’s technically doable.

    100% gun checks, on everything, via the licensing system. No exceptions or loopholes. No gun show exceptions, etc.

    The above will save thousands of lives each year, and it won’t cost anyone their “rights.” Again, no one ever had the right to unlimited firepower, quantity, consumer choice and so on.

    Registration = Confiscation

    An a-hole can commit mass murder with a suicide vest too. With a car. With a gas can. With chemical reactions producing toxic gases. With an airplane. With a drone aircraft. It is literally limitless and stems from a sick mind not a firearm of any kind.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45950
    bnw
    Blocked

    To be clear, I consider any gun that will fire every time you pull the trigger and has a magazine of over 10 bullets an assault weapon. Why the fuck would any law abiding US citizen need something like that?

    There isn’t any need for it. IMO, the best way to regulate that is to ban all weapons with detachable ammo containers of any kind, shape, size, etc. etc. That way, you don’t run into the absurd semantics game that gun nuts love to play. They want us to get hung up on what these weapons are called, and to forget what they do.

    Nothing absurd nor semantics involved. An assault weapon is well defined. It is capable of FULL AUTO fire. Hold the trigger in and it empties the mag. Assault weapons are rarely used in crime in this country.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45949
    bnw
    Blocked

    This is a very sore subject for me. I personally have gone through several of the Kubler Ross stages after Sandy Hook.

    Worse, my daughter, who attended Sandy Hook Elementary and knew most of the adults who were butchered has had several anxiety attacks at school in Boston, imagining there were shooters in all the tall buildings around her. She was diagnosed with PTSD. She has always been a very open, caring, empathic kid, and was really ship wreaked after Sandy Hook. She seems better after a year plus of therapy, but I’m not sure we’ll ever be the same again.

    To be clear, I consider any gun that will fire every time you pull the trigger and has a magazine of over 10 bullets an assault weapon. Why the fuck would any law abiding US citizen need something like that?

    Compensation issues (i.e. little dick)??

    You’re against semi-autos. Semi-autos are great. Much more fun to shoot. Much better for hunting, plinking or target practice. More issues in safe handling though. If you’ve ever had to hand load any mags without stripper clips you would know why a well functioning mag of more than 10 rounds is worth it. Even with stripper clips if you have to load enough of them it still is a pain. I like the tubular mags as long as they can hold more than 15 rounds.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45942
    bnw
    Blocked

    Nothing stupid about it since it is democrats that will try to use this to deny law abiding citizens their 2nd Amendment right.

    Sigh.

    Sigh when you can’t deny.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45938
    bnw
    Blocked

    My heart goes out to all those directly affected.

    America has a sickness, and one of the symptoms is that assault weapons are sold to the general public.

    Seriously doubt it was an assault weapon. May have looked “scary” but not NFA Class 3.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    in reply to: Another day another mass shooting #45936
    bnw
    Blocked

    From Trump people the shooter is another registered democrat.

    Thanks. We needed more “Trump’s circle says stupid things about this” samples.

    Nothing stupid about it since it is democrats that will try to use this to deny law abiding citizens their 2nd Amendment right.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

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