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bnwBlockedYou can inherit something of value.
Sheeesh! Why didn’t I think of that? I just need that long lost uncle to leave me something. I’m set. Problem solved.
You’d be amazed to know the number of people who swallow for decades a diet of shit from a nasty relative they think they will inherit money from. Consider ourselves lucky by comparison.
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bnwBlockedI worked my way through college. I chose a school which I could afford and majored in a degree program to get a job that could pay the bills. I could have gone elsewhere and spent much more money while miring myself in tremendous debt getting a degree that would never pay the bills. But I didn’t. No way in hell should I have to bail out those who did.
You wouldn’t be “bailing them out.” You would be helping, in a very limited way, invest in America’s present and future, as others have done for you your entire life. It would be a fraction of a fraction of “payback” for what you’ve already received, but not within light years of actually squaring that debt.
And you make it sound like you, all on your own, would be responsible for American education, which you find “unfair.” In reality, your personal input in taxes would be a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the whole — and again, wouldn’t come close to repaying what you’ve received in turn.
The average American, in their entire working life, won’t pay enough in taxes to cover even a mile of roadway. Yet we get to drive on endless miles, along with enjoying a huge array of other public goods and services. How selfish can a person get to not want to help pay for even a fraction of a fraction of that?
Typical short sighted self absorbed liberal. Too bad you’re incapable of reading into my post what I sacrificed by living within my means. I could have had the ivy league diploma. I could also have majored in what was absolute fun for me. However in good conscience I couldn’t do either since my family couldn’t gift me that nor would I want them to take on the responsibility of co-signing a student loan. I accepted one credit card offer in college. It was a fuel company card that was accepted throughout the midwest and south. I used it to commute 600 miles per week between St. Louis and Rolla, MO. Usually put a diet pepsi on it too. Always paid it off each month. I chose to live within my means. That is what an honorable person does.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockeda person can’t increase net worth with little income.
Sure they can. You can own an asset that appreciates. You can inherit something of value. You can barter your labor, etc. You can marry someone with assets.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedit’d be great if there was some way they could eliminate student debt.
It’s called paying off your debt. People make choices to go into debt. People also make choices not to get into debt they can’t repay. Don’t coddle the former by fucking over the latter.
when my friends came out of school with debt it wasn’t a choice. it was either that or don’t go to school. when i came out of school with no debt it wasn’t a choice. i just got lucky.
i’m not talking about debt in general. i’m talking about school resulting from gett5an education.
I worked my way through college. I chose a school which I could afford and majored in a degree program to get a job that could pay the bills. I could have gone elsewhere and spent much more money while miring myself in tremendous debt getting a degree that would never pay the bills. But I didn’t. No way in hell should I have to bail out those who did.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
July 15, 2016 at 9:06 am in reply to: "One of the cops under my command is a young Asian officer" #48765bnwBlockedThe law being for we and not for she sealed the victory for Trump.
Well if you’re talking about the emails and the private server, we wouldn’t be in any kind of trouble at all. Private citizens wouldn’t be hauled before Congress for umpteen hours, the subject of GOP witch-hunts, or investigated by the FBI for what she did. If she had been a private citizen and had done the same exact thing, no one would care.
In the case of emails and private servers and such, government employees are actually held to much, much tougher rules and regs than we are. So, you have it backwards.
Now, if you’re talking about other things — her war record, her use of the State Department to bust up non-profit, public sectors (the Commons) overseas for our capitalists, her complicity with the expansion of the surveillance state and so on . . . that’s a different story. But the private email server? That’s a classic nothing burger.
Though it does point to a certain arrogance, a sense of entitlement, a tech stupidity and poor judgment that doesn’t speak well of her. But nothing she did would have been remotely subject to indictment or investigation if she had been a private citizen doing the same thing.
I can’t stand either candidate. And, frankly, I can’t for the life of me understand why you would want Trump to be the president. Neither Clinton nor Trump should be anywhere near the White House. Ever.
Government employees not in military service are private citizens. Same for contractors and subcontractors to the federal government. The numerous laws Hildabeast broke most certainly do apply to those private citizens. Comey ended his infamous speech by threatening other employees not to expect to get away with what Hildabeast did.
Its clear to me you do not know the first thing about this topic. You seem to be equating these employees with members of the press or the butcher shop owner or w’s infamous dry cleaner. Don’t.
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July 15, 2016 at 8:58 am in reply to: "One of the cops under my command is a young Asian officer" #48764bnwBlockedI’m not railing against 3rd party canidates,
Yes the latent Trung effect some 16 years and counting.
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bnwBlockedit’d be great if there was some way they could eliminate student debt.
It’s called paying off your debt. People make choices to go into debt. People also make choices not to get into debt they can’t repay. Don’t coddle the former by fucking over the latter.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
July 15, 2016 at 8:47 am in reply to: Brees: College quarterbacks are 'more well-prepared than ever before' #48758bnwBlockedI don’t see it. Goff should start game 1 if that is the case.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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July 14, 2016 at 10:14 pm in reply to: "One of the cops under my command is a young Asian officer" #48740bnwBlockedI’m just hoping that we don’t end up with a third party alternative that will draw enough votes away from Hillary to give The Donald the election a la Ralph “unsafe at any speed” Nader.
The law being for we and not for she sealed the victory for Trump.
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Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedCertainly not a fail safe guarantee but the last thing you do is escalate the situation which was what she did by yelling.
That’s a lot of speculation, regarding the effects of her yelling. Regardless, the only person who escalated the matter was the cop. That’s what they do all too often, especially when they’re dealing with black and brown people. They choose to escalate, instantly, instead of deescalate and defuse.
And no American citizen should have to jump through so many hoops just to survive a police encounter. That’s basically saying we are at their mercy, and if we don’t comply, we die.
Sorry, but fuck that shit.
It has always been that way. And always will.
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bnwBlocked“Castile’s girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, who was a passenger in the car along with her 4-year-old daughter, stressed in her video that Castile complied with Yanez’s requests before the encounter turned fatal. But when talking to reporters the day after his death, she shed light on possible confusion stemming from Castile’s final words to the officer.
“As he’s reaching for his back pocket wallet, he lets the officer know: ‘Officer, I have a firearm on me,” she said. “I begin to yell, ‘But he’s licensed to carry.’ After that, (the officer) began to take off shots.””
How sad. Her yelling set off the policeman. No good excuse for the policeman but that is what happened. Regardless of what the policeman was thinking Castile should have informed him from the beginning that he has a carry permit and a firearm and where both are on him. I would have gone so far as to keep both my hands in plain sight asking him where do you want my hands? Certainly not a fail safe guarantee but the last thing you do is escalate the situation which was what she did by yelling.
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bnwBlockedCurious: what does Jill Stein offer that my dry cleaner does not? They both have the exact same views on policies; Neither has held an elected office;and try as they might they have lost every election they’ve been in.
There is a point here.
She got recruited to run for office because as a Harvard trained physician, she kept getting asked by various governmental agencies or people who wanted someone with health credentials to speak to the damage certain environmental policies were having on constituents.
So, unlike your dry cleaner, Jill Stein has been working with various government agencies for and against for YEARS, specifically with respect to the environment and the health effects of environmental policy.
I dunno why, waterfield, I’m sure it’s not on purpose, but I’d be less offended if you were openly misogynistic towards Dr Jill Stein than dismissive as so many liberals are toward those not part of the party apparatus. What’s complete horse manure, is that if your dry cleaner was running, you’d be defending their small business experience and community ties rather than using them as an example of how to dismiss an alternative candidate…
I must say outstanding use of guilt.
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bnwBlockedThe police force MUST become more diverse. That IS important.
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Ah something I know. Blacks are heavily recruited into local law enforcement. Problem is few blacks want that career and when one is hired and gets a couple years of experience they are recruited by much larger or wealthier departments for much better pay among other things. I can hear Billy already, Capitalism!
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bnwBlockedIt looks like a great plan to me.
Why? And, again, he’s lying to his supporters about how business taxes work, and estate taxes.
Ten Facts You Should Know About the Federal Estate Tax
Today, 99.8 percent of estates owe no estate tax at all, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.[3] Only the estates of the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans — roughly 2 out of every 1,000 people who die — owe any estate tax. (See Figure 1.) This is because of the tax’s high exemption amount, which has jumped from $650,000 per person in 2001 to $5.43 million per person in 2015.
Are you in favor of balanced budgets? Want to pay down the debt? His tax plan would put us further into the red by nearly 12 trillion. And for what? So the already rich (including Trump himself) could pocket millions more and do with that what they always do? Hoard it.
Trickle down doesn’t work, bnw. It’s never worked. And Trump’s plan relies on trickle down working.
Trump’s plan removes over 50% of the households from paying the tax. That helps working people a great deal.
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bnwBlockedLet me just be clear that I do not endorse Sanders’ endorsement.
But Sanders isn’t my hero whom I feel the need to protect.
I understand why he did it. That’s politics. I can afford to be more idealistic because I’m not a politician. He has to consider the real outcomes of real decisions, and make a choice based on those assessments. He got the best possible outcome he could. He raised a lot of issues and made them debatable where before his campaign, they were invisible in the mainstream. He moved the party platform to the left (fwiw), and he has grown more powerful in the senate personally which positions him better for continuing to fight for his principles.
Personally, I don’t know for sure that Trump is worse, though he certainly is riskier. I mean, we know what kind of crap we will get from President Clinton, but electing President Trump is kind of like sitting on a keg of powder and lighting it just to see where you will go. And for sure his SC nominations are going to be no bueno. In any event, I can see why Sanders thinks Clinton is the lesser of two evils, and more susceptible to influence from the movement he represents.
I am a bit disappointed that he endorsed her. But I see it as a calculated retreat to another position to wait for reinforcements rather than a betrayal.
I’m still voting for Stein (as of now).
Stein more so than Johnson has picked up Sanders supporters. The law not applying to Hildabeast gave the election to Trump. The people have had enough.
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bnwBlockedbnw,
Any comments on my previous post? I’m particularly interested in your response regarding Trump’s tax proposals. And, I have to admit an error on my part. I said his tax policy would add an additional 10 trillion, according to economists. It’s actually closer to 12 trillion.
Also, from his website. He tells a baldfaced lie about business taxes, corporate taxes, when he talks in terms of business income. Taxation of businesses and corporations is on profits, not income. A massive, ginormous difference. His promise to make sure no one pays more than 15% on business income is absurd, given that no business has ever come within light years of that percentage. A typical business has a profit margin in the 3% range — or so they tell us — and the corporate rate of 35% applies to that, only. And that’s after deductions, writeoffs, special programs, incentives, grants and subsidies, etc. etc. kick in.
Here’s the relevant section, from his website:
The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals
If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.
All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.
No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.
No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.
Also, note the massive tax cut for himself and his heirs.
It looks like a great plan to me.
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bnwBlockedBS. Show me anywhere Trump has disavowed what he has campaigned on to the extent that Sanders has by endorsing Hildabeast. Nothing partisan about it. It is fact. A partisan refuses to acknowledge factual information. That is exactly what Sanders supporters have done in this thread. Again regarding Sanders,
You mean he now believes Hildabeast has the judgement to be president?
He now believes she is progressive while being owned by Wall Street?
He now believes she won’t support the TPP?My friend those are the facts. If Trump flaunts such hypocrisy I’ll unload on him for it too.
No, what it means is that he – regardless of his own political positions – has the same choice everyone else does: Clinton or Trump.
And in his estimation, Trump will be more regressive than Clinton.
Theres more choices than Hildabeast or Trump. Sanders sold out. Now he gets the nicely upholstered chair in the senate democrat caucus? So much for his principles.
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bnwBlockedThe “thin skinned whiny bitch” I’m referring to is Trump, not Hillary. Meaning, Bernie doesn’t want to be the one responsible for Trump winning the election.
Sorry, sometimes I assume that everybody watches “Real Time”. “Thin Skinned Whiny Bitch” is Bill’s favorite nick name for The Donald.
That explains it. No I do not watch “Real Time”.
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July 13, 2016 at 10:03 pm in reply to: "One of the cops under my command is a young Asian officer" #48660bnwBlockedI’m honestly not trying to bait you, just probing a bit to try and figure out why you have the beliefs you do.
If you don’t mind me asking, did you grow up in a city or a small town? Where do you live now? Me, I grew up in Fairfield, CT. A medium sized town on Long Island Sound. I now live in Sandy Hook, CT, a village in Newtown, CT with my wife, 2 children and cat.
You stated you felt persecuted because of your religion. Again, if you don’t mind me asking, what is your religion? Me, I was raised Roman Catholic, but had that beaten out of me after 12 years of Catholic school (1st Grade through High school). I now consider myself an Atheist (until proven otherwise).
Will you leave the country if Hillary wins? Me, I’m considering it if Trump wins…
Grew up in South St.Louis County, MO. It was much more wide open then than now. I now live in Oak Ridge, TN home to the national laboratory with my wife and 2 kids. Not persecution but prejudice. I was raised Roman Catholic and still identify as such though rarely attend mass. No plans to leave the US.
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bnwBlockedI think, from his POV, Hillary is the lesser of two evils. Plain and simple; he knows he can’t get the nomination and he’s going to be damned if history remembers him as the reason the thin skinned whiny bitch wins the election.
I don’t get it.
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July 13, 2016 at 7:22 pm in reply to: "One of the cops under my command is a young Asian officer" #48650bnwBlockedYou never make much sense. BTW I’d give my own kids that advice.
Thank you! That is probably the nicest thing you have ever said to me. To be fair, I can’t make much sense of most of the positions you take here (although, if Trump (AKA thin skinned whiny little bitch) does get elected, there is a very unpleasant position that most of what is left of the Middle Class is going to have to take…
Your baiting hasn’t worked with me. Never will.
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bnwBlockedHe’s being audited. He’s responded to that many times. End the audit then get the records. No the rest doesn’t give me pause because it is deliberately misconstrued and taken out of context for political gain.
Bnw, don’t go down that road again. I’ve made every attempt to take you at your word. Please return the favor.
I don’t make stuff up to score political points. Everything I wrote about Trump has been verified umpteen times, and by a wide range of sources. It’s on video, audio, with transcripts available on the Net. His own words, in context. His own repeated lies, in context. His own retweets of neo-nazi material, in context, etc. etc. And his own policy, like tax cuts that would make him millions.
Please feel free to rebut his own words, or show that he didn’t say them. But don’t tell me I “deliberately misconstrued” them for political gain.
That’s never been my scene.
You are using material that was deliberately misconstrued for political gain. I’m not saying you did the work. I’m saying your sources did.
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bnwBlockedHere is Robert Reich on the same topic:
———————-Nice video, but Reich is a LOT more…oh…optimistic
than I am.I dont see ANY of those things he listed happening. I dont think Hillary
will be one bit different from Obama/Bill-Clinton. And i think the DNC
will roll along tossing out identity-politix crumbs to liberals once in a while.I mean why should they change? Assuming HIllary wins. Which she will.
http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/national-presidential-polls-trump-vs-clinton.phpHave a nice day
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bnwBlockedNothing partisan about it.
If course it is, and that’s all is. I mean there’s no shame in that. There’s no attack here. But political discussion like this is partisan. Everyone’s just playing out their spot in the political spectrum poll. Everyone identifies with the candidate who best represents their own vision and then dismisses, ignores, downplays, evades, erases, and otherwise steers clear from the bad stuff about their candidate.
The fact that you don’t see it that way is precisely part of BEING partisan. As a rule I find that being blind to one’s own partisanship is one of the big elements of being partisan.
Which is why I don’t get into the minutia wars. The whole thing is pre-scripted by partisanship.
But see to me, from my partisan position, it doesn’t matter what kind of guy Trump is. It’s not about character…that’s just marketing. I oppose his policies and overall vision. I don’t like the way he sees things, and I don’t like his priorities. If you managed somehow to convincingly defend his character (which I don’t think is possible but just for argument’s sake), I wouldn’t care…I would still oppose his vision and his policies.
And now that it has gotten down to DT and HC, I don’t care if you attack her character. I am just partisan enough (exactly like you) that it wouldn’t matter. “Character” is PR. Attacking character is PR.
But I will say that this game where somehow DT has integrity and HC doesn’t? It’s always just going to be seen as an inevitable part of the partisan game. It won’t mean anything. To me it would just always be you being partisan.
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Of course she doesn’t have integrity. Look at this fiction Comey wrote that said she broke the law numerous times but because she is ignorant he won’t recommend further action, of course all you little people working with those documents will not be so lucky. Hildabeast doesn’t answer to the law. The law is for we not she. That cost her the election. Then I hope Trump’s AG does a real investigation of her and Bill and the Clinton Foundation Slush Fund.
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bnwBlockedApparently they didn’t look hard enough.
Why is that apparent? It’s not. They found he lied about his charitable giving. Rather, his lack of charitable giving — after an exhaustive search.
Of course, he could help settle the controversy by releasing his tax records, but he won’t. And that would make him the first nominee for president to withhold them in several decades.
What is he trying to hide?
Yes, Clinton hides too much as well. But, the old saying applies: Two wrongs don’t make a right, etc.
And what about the other things I mentioned? Do you have any explanations for them? Don’t they at least give you pause?
He’s being audited. He’s responded to that many times. End the audit then get the records. No the rest doesn’t give me pause because it is deliberately misconstrued and taken out of context for political gain.
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bnwBlockedShould Trump warrant it he’ll get it too. Waiting on the VP pick.
See? Partisan.
That’s how everyone is going to see those comments.
Not “truth giver is among us.”
But, “oh yeah…the Trump guy.”
Show me where Trump warrants it now. As I said I’m waiting on the VP pick.
It;s partisan to even put it that way my friend. Trump has been so controversial that it’s hard to escape this. You can overlook it and “demand proof” etc. but this stuff is kind of in your face and only a partisan could respond the way you are.
Though, that’s not to say the others aren;t partisan too. They clearly are. But someone like zooey can criticize both Trump and Clinton, and you can only do one…and have to ignore a lot to do it that way.
BS. Show me anywhere Trump has disavowed what he has campaigned on to the extent that Sanders has by endorsing Hildabeast. Nothing partisan about it. It is fact. A partisan refuses to acknowledge factual information. That is exactly what Sanders supporters have done in this thread. Again regarding Sanders,
You mean he now believes Hildabeast has the judgement to be president?
He now believes she is progressive while being owned by Wall Street?
He now believes she won’t support the TPP?My friend those are the facts. If Trump flaunts such hypocrisy I’ll unload on him for it too.
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bnwBlockedShould Trump warrant it he’ll get it too. Waiting on the VP pick.
Retweeting neo-nazi slogans and pics doesn’t warrant it? Making fun of disabled reporters doesn’t warrant it? Egging on violence at his rallies doesn’t warrant it? Calling Mexicans rapists, wanting to ban Muslims from the country, wanting to shut down mosques doesn’t warrant it? Claiming that thousands of Muslims celebrated in Jersey on 9/11 when there is no evidence that any did?
And he constantly lies — as recently as yesterday — about things like the Iranian Deal. He keeps telling his supporters that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars. Um, no we didn’t. It was their money to begin with. We illegally froze it. Because we could. And as a good capitalist, Trump should know better. It wasn’t America’s money to begin with.
Not to mention, he’s called for a massive tax cut for himself, and stands to gain tens of millions once he’s elected and implements that plan. It will also put tens of millions into his children’s pockets.
Oh, and his lies about his charitable giving, too.
Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.
Apparently they didn’t look hard enough.
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bnwBlockedShould Trump warrant it he’ll get it too. Waiting on the VP pick.
See? Partisan.
That’s how everyone is going to see those comments.
Not “truth giver is among us.”
But, “oh yeah…the Trump guy.”
Show me where Trump warrants it now. As I said I’m waiting on the VP pick.
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bnwBlockedWell, his options were to 1) do nothing, 2) run with Stein, 3) endorse Hillary.
None of those are good options, but #1 accomplishes nothing but makes him appear spineless,
No it doesn’t. It would show he stands on principle. But he doesn’t. He supports Hildabeast like a typical political hack.
He IS standing on principle.
You just don’t like what that principle IS.
You mean he now believes Hildabeast has the judgement to be president?
He now believes she is progressive while being owned by Wall Street?
He now believes she won’t support the TPP?Give it up he’s a hack.
Well, I doubt anyone here is going to take it seriously if you attack Sanders’s character and then actually defend Trump’s. Naturally, people just see both judgments as partisan. Because…duh.
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Should Trump warrant it he’ll get it too. Waiting on the VP pick.
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bnwBlockedWell, his options were to 1) do nothing, 2) run with Stein, 3) endorse Hillary.
None of those are good options, but #1 accomplishes nothing but makes him appear spineless,
No it doesn’t. It would show he stands on principle. But he doesn’t. He supports Hildabeast like a typical political hack.
He IS standing on principle.
You just don’t like what that principle IS.
You mean he now believes Hildabeast has the judgement to be president?
He now believes she is progressive while being owned by Wall Street?
He now believes she won’t support the TPP?Give it up he’s a hack.
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