waterfield wrote:

Manchurian Candidate?

No that is Bill Clinton.

Interesting though more like realized rather than discovered.

I love the desperation. Clinton Cash should be required viewing. Trump is a choir boy compared to Hildabeast who has sold influence to arms dealers and dictators and even Vladimir Putin. She’s so corrupt as to beg the question are her supporters that callous or shallow or stupid?

nittany ram wrote:

waterfield wrote:

It all reminded me of some of those historical clips from the rise of Nazi Germany and Hitler’s call to action.

Really? Where’d ya get that idea?

From this guy.

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Climate Change exists four times each year where I live. Inequality exists too as Hildabeast getting a pass on her email crimes proves.

bnw, do you think man-made climate change is happening? And do you think we have a serious problem of economic inequality? Politics aside. Politicians aside. Do you think these things exist as serious issues in their own right?

Of course climate change is happening four times each year where I live. But ‘climate change’ is used by those to obscure the fraud of ‘global warming’ that despite all the money and data manipulation and data destruction and endless propaganda hurled upon humankind the earth is cooling not warming.

Yes the economic inequality here is so bad that people from around the world still try to make their way here any way they can legally and illegally. If I knew how to post pictures I could show some exceptional Cuban efforts.

I’ll save climate science stuff for another post, while hoping others weigh in as well.

So, just on the inequality part:

Just twenty Americans now hold as much wealth as the bottom half of the nation combined. Again, that’s 20 people having as much wealth as roughly 160 million Americans combined. The 18th century denizens of Versailles never had it so good.

The richest 1% now hold as much wealth as the bottom 99% of the country combined. The richest 0.1% holds as much as the bottom 90%.

The richest 1% now bring in roughly 23% of all income — though I’ve seen this figure as high as 25%. That’s nearly a quarter of all income for just 1% of the nation, leaving the bottom 99% to fight over roughly 75% of the rest.

In the 1950s, your average CEO made roughly twenty times as much as his rank and file workers. In the 1960s, it was roughly 25 to 1.

Today? Roughly 300 to 1. In Fortune 100 companies, it’s roughly 1000 to 1.

Leaving aside the fact of people wanting to come here from war-torn, ravaged, impoverished nations, do the above stats bother you? Do you see them as indications of something unfair, perhaps even obscenely wrong? Or, at least, as bad for the economy overall?

One can bitch and whine about it but to what end? Stealing from someone because they have more money than you? No thanks. That is what stupid policies embraced by both parties that destroy US jobs without penalizing traitorous imports will get you. One party has a nominee that builds things for a living and is paid well for it. Another party has a nominee that parlays potential future government service into an influence peddling scheme and is well paid for it. Only one of those candidates will go after the Wall Street crooks. Regarding executive compensation I’ve already told you I believe four times the average workers salary is enough considering all the other perks of the job. I would support a law severely curtailing golden parachutes since they are another way stockholders and employees and communities are fleeced.

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Climate Change exists four times each year where I live. Inequality exists too as Hildabeast getting a pass on her email crimes proves.

bnw, do you think man-made climate change is happening? And do you think we have a serious problem of economic inequality? Politics aside. Politicians aside. Do you think these things exist as serious issues in their own right?

Of course climate change is happening four times each year where I live. But ‘climate change’ is used by those to obscure the fraud of ‘global warming’ that despite all the money and data manipulation and data destruction and endless propaganda hurled upon humankind the earth is cooling not warming.

Yes the economic inequality here is so bad that people from around the world still try to make their way here any way they can legally and illegally. If I knew how to post pictures I could show some exceptional Cuban efforts.

Videos don’t work.

Billy_T wrote:

She didn’t lie about her family heritage. She went by family stories about it. Passed down to her. Passed down to her parents. And their parents.

Stop it. She lied. She lied for personal gain at the expense of someone else.

wv wrote:

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=16828

Pocahontas wants to inherit the useful idiots of the democratic party.

Zooey wrote:

Actually, now that I am thinking about it, I have something to contribute on this issue. Because, really, I have read a lot about narcissism due to my wife’s condition. So I recognized Trump as a narcissist way back in the first debate, and I have read other people calling him a narcissist, but I never stopped to think that people don’t actually know what that means.

Most people think of narcissism as simple self-absorption and vanity. But that isn’t what it is, really. It’s complicated. But, believe me, you want to stay away from narcissists. They are fucking bad news because they are fact-impervious, and they are NEVER wrong, and you ARE. They do not compromise. They have no empathy. They cannot understand other points of view. Just cannot.

And this is what we will get with Trump. A president that cannot understand the viewpoint of other nations, of the congress, of anybody. And has no interest in understanding other points of view. Whatever he thinks or feels – at the moment – will guide his decisions. I am telling you.

I could go on.

Here is a very brief introduction from the Mayo clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568

Sorry to learn that about your wife but you are outrageously reaching regarding Trump.

Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

Zooey wrote:

He will beat Bush for vacation days.

But will he beat Obama who has set the record for vacation days?

Oh, stop it.

I don’t like Obama, and I didn’t vote for him either time, but he has been more “responsible” as a president than George Bush was. George Bush is arguably the Worst President Ever, and that is a judgement I make without regard to my political preferences. And Trump will be as bad, or worse. He is ignorant, and he is proud of it.

That is your opinion. You will have the opportunity to see how wrong it is. Obama has been a disaster. He has acted stupidly and cowardly in his fomenting racial discord and his disastrous interventionist policy is on him alone. I suspect Trump will be more of a Theodor Roosevelt.

In this thread I sense I am loved.

zn wrote:

waterfield wrote:

I believe in Elizabeth Warren when she says we have to get beyond the past and do everything necessary to insure that Trump does not become our President.

I believe myself when I say that tolerating party corruption is never acceptable.

Agreed. Regardless of party.