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Trump will win. For some of the very reasons mentioned in this thread, mainly he’s not the establishment.
I surface long enough to say this (without debating it) then go back under. And I am still cranky.
Yeah he is. He is a typical republican right-wing version of all the establishment stuff. And therefore much worse. Fight women’s choice, make the rich richer through tax policies, deny climate science, promote white nationalism, cut back corporate taxation. He is a supply side type who wants to increase economic inequality, fight gun control, fight police reform etc.. He will have a right-leaning supreme court and will always be saying stupid things (which is why I am baffled at this idea that he’s “trying to lose” recently. He’s no different now than he ever was. Nothing has changed.)
He’s just a particularly ignorant and outspoken version of all that, as a personality. But then not that much more ignorant than GW II. But his republican style economic policies alone will virtually guarantee the lives of the majority will be worse, whereas the dem version of economic policy will actually fix some of that.
Some of my leftist friends don’t see all that but then mostly we’ve been discussing personalities and not policies so it’s easier to not see things that way.
In fact I suppose I will just have to start some policy threads and see if anyone contributes to them.
And you’re wrong as you have been from the beginning about Trump. Consistently. That is what fascinates me about his detractors. They ‘know’ yet they are always proven wrong. It is a real movement for change. The entire establishment is against him yet you claim he is the establishment? That makes no sense. The establishment is threatened to its core by a Trump presidency while Hildabeast in office keeps them fat, happy and very much in control. The change agent in 2016 is Trump.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
Jesus made the plants the way they are, Nittany.
Yeah but he didn’t make them productive, flood resistant or pest resistant enough to feed all his children.
Fortunately the devil came along and created GMOs. Thank God.
I think it is weird that the two of you viw man made global warming as the ultimate disaster to mankind when the very food supply for your survival into the next month is truly threatened to become a monopoly of a few corporations. So odd.
Fear not. Patents expire. Generic GMOs are here.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539746/as-patents-expire-farmers-plant-generic-gmos/
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
Monsanto has sued many farmers that they claimed stole their seeds but they have never sued anyone whose fields have been accidentally pollinated by their products.
Don’t buy their lies. Ask Percy Schmeiser
Finally… Solo Farmer Fights Monsanto and Wins
December 25, 2011.
By Dr. Mercola
Monsanto has long been trying to establish control over the seeds of the plants that produce food for the world.
They have already patented a number of genetically altered food crops, which can only be grown with proper license, and the seeds for which must be purchased anew each year.
But genetically engineered crops cannot be contained.
And rather than being found guilty of contaminating farmers’ property, Monsanto has successfully sued hundreds of farmers for patent infringement.
Many farmers have subsequently, quite literally, lost their farms.
Percy Schmeiser of Saskatchewan, Canada, was also a victim of Monsanto’s vile ways.
Schmeiser worked on farming and developing his own seeds for 50 years, and when his fields were contaminated, Monsanto threatened him, intimidated him, and tried to take his land away.
But Schmeiser refused to give in, and eventually beat them in court.
David versus Goliath
Percy’s story is a classic case of David versus Goliath, and his victory is no doubt momentous.
It all began in 1998, at which time Schmeiser had grown canola on his farm for 40 years. Like any other traditional farmer, he used his own seeds, saved from the previous harvest. But, like hundreds of other North American farmers, Schmeiser ended up being sued by Monsanto for ‘patent infringement.’
More than 320 hectares were found to be contaminated with Roundup Ready canola—the biotech giant’s patented canola, genetically engineered to tolerate otherwise lethal doses of glyphosate. The company sought damages totaling $400,000.
Most farmers end up settling, but Schmeiser was angry enough to fight back. In a 1999 interview, Schmeiser stated:
“I never put those plants on my land. The question is, where do Monsanto’s rights end and mine begin?”
The case eventually went before the Federal Court of Canada. Schmeiser in turn accused Monsanto of:
Libel, by publicly accusing him of committing illegal acts
Trespassing
Improperly obtaining samples of his seed from a local seed plant
Callous disregard for the environment by introducing genetically modified crops without proper controls and containment
Contamination of his crops with unwanted GM plants
After 10 Years, Monsanto Agrees to Pay for CleanupAfter a decade-long battle, Schmeiser won when, in March 2008, Monsanto settled out of court, agreeing to pay for all cleanup costs. The agreement also specified that Schmeiser would not be under gag-order, and that Monsanto can be sued for recontamination.
This was a much-needed win not just for Schmeiser, but for farmers everywhere. It set the precedence that farmers may be entitled to reimbursement when their fields are contaminated with unwanted GM crops (as indeed they should!). On Schmeiser’s website, http://www.percyschmeiser.com, he states:
“If I would go to St. Louis and contaminate their plots–destroy what they have worked on for 40 years–I think I would be put in jail and the key thrown away.”
However, that’s not to say that farmers have nothing to fear anymore… The Federal Court of Canada did uphold the validity of Monsanto’s patent, dismissing Schmeiser’s challenge to the patent based on the fact that Monsanto cannot control its spread. Worse yet, while the judge agreed that a farmer can generally claim ownership of crops growing in his fields when they’re inadvertently carried there by pollen or wind, this does not hold true when it comes to patented, genetically modified seed. Schmeiser was deeply upset about this particular part of the ruling, as the implications are huge.
Still, in this case, while Monsanto’s patent was still deemed valid and enforceable, Schmeiser was not forced to pay for the ‘privilege’ of having his fields contaminated…
This landmark case is now featured in the documentary film “David versus Monsanto.” (See the trailer above.)
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
Monsanto is suiciding farmers by forcing their seeds on them. Farmers are prevented from saving their own seed simply to bolster profit for Monsanto. However the worst of all is when the GMO pollen contaminates other non GMO crops the resulting crops are considered GMO by theft and Monsanto sues the farmers! Monsanto is the definition of evil fucking over the food supply while buying the courts and government to get away with it.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
