Billy_T wrote:

bnw,

I gave you the proof that he’s losing in all the polls. Do you have proof to the contrary? And, again, Trump IS the establishment. I have no idea why you think he’s this anti-establishment crusader who will go against the status quo. He’s supposed to be a billionaire, which makes him a plutocrat. He’s even more “establishment” than the Clintons. He’s not a threat to anyone in the ruling class. He’s a part of it.

And all of his policies would help his fellow plutocrats get much, much richer. He’d personally pocket tens of millions, as would his heirs and all of their ruling class buddies, just from his proposed tax cuts. And all the multinational corporations sending jobs overseas would also benefit from his massive tax cuts and deregulation.

I honestly don’t understand how you can see him as a champion for anyone but the 1%.

WRONG! You did not give such proof. You were suckered by both HuffPo and RealClearPolitics which is what they love to do. They set you up by not including the polls in which Trump LEADS Hildabeast on that page. Click the “Show More” to see what both of those rags chose to ignore.

Trump is not the establishment as all the establishment is all in on trying to defeat Trump. One has to be blind not to see it. Trump wants to shit can the TPP and renegotiate NAFTA and if necessary to shit can NAFTA too. Trump wants to have a dialogue with Russia against ISIS. Trump wants to audit the Federal Reserve. Trump wants to end illegal immigration. Trump ants to support the police and our 2nd Amendment right. All of these are contrary to the wishes of the establishment. Their time is done. The people are speaking through Trump. The election won’t be close to allow the establishment to steal it.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by bnw.

zn wrote:

bnw wrote:

Such a terrible burden to prove you are who you say you are and are registered to vote. Makes one wonder why walking and chewing gum at the same time isn’t an Olympic event?

YOu massively missed the point here and your response is seriously facts-lite.

No amount of quipping will cover over that. On the bases of that statement it’s apparent you don’t get this issue. Stuck in a partisan swamp? Happens.

Clean and dry boots here. I know a BS argument when I read it. IDs are so onerous! That is the argument. Not having to show my passport or driver’s license, or utility bills or being forced to use a credit card or otherwise some businesses crap their pants over suspected terrorism. Be gone with IDs! They are bulky and can be lost so just take my word for it. I am who I say I am.

Such a terrible burden to prove you are who you say you are and are registered to vote. Makes one wonder why walking and chewing gum at the same time isn’t an Olympic event?

Billy_T wrote:

Another key here (IMO). Trump is only within striking distance to begin with because of Clinton. Had the Dems nominated any of a dozen other candidates, Trump would now be so far behind, he would have given up months ago. I think a Warren or a Biden would be crushing him right now, for instance. Not that they necessarily represent my own views, though they’re closer to them than Clinton’s. They just don’t have her baggage. And it’s that baggage that enables Trump to “only” be down by roughly 7 points nationally, with no real chance in the electoral college as things stand. As things go right now, it looks like HRC doesn’t even need to win the swing states in order to get to 270.

In short, the Dems picked the wrong year to nominate a Clinton. With a shattered, reeling GOP, a better candidate would have given the Dems Congress too. With HRC, they likely get the White House and the Senate, but then probably lose the Senate again in 2018. A different Dem would likely get them the White House, Congress and keep the latter throughout their first term at least.

Trump isn’t behind in the honest polls. His huge crowds attest to that. BTW business bankruptcies are not personal bankruptcy. While I do not agree with stiffing anyone for product or services rendered that is the law with which both parties in a transaction operate.

wv wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Trump, who is on to something, will still probably fail to win simply because he’s an asshole.

So we can debate his opinions all we want, but the plain truth is that he expresses his opinions in such an irresponsible way that many people will refuse to vote for him.

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He’s toast. He’s Linehan. Remember when Linehan was losing the team
he kinda tried to change his style a bit, near the end. Trump is doing that.
Its a sure sign of desperation.

It is done. President Hillary Clinton.

I’m hoping Jill breaks five percent. I’d like to see that.

w
v

Trump draws crowds in the tens of thousands everywhere while Hildabeast can’t fill a school gymnasium. Get used to it. President Trump!

nittany ram wrote:

bnw wrote:

wv wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

Yes, our destruction of the biosphere continues unabated.

Everyone should really enjoy awesome creatures like the leatherback sea turtle while they can because we will likely be the last generation to see them.

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There’s just a shitload of life-forms on this little dysfunctional planet.

w
v

That shitload is proof it is a very functional planet.

It’s proof that it was, not is.

Still is. Extinctions have always occurred throughout history.

Billy_T wrote:

Trump seems to have created a serious split in the conservative movement, though from my pov, the old guard just isn’t being honest about its own racism, xenophobia, homophobia and misogynistic tendencies. It wants the rest of us to believe that Trump and the Alt-Right are bringing something to the GOP that wasn’t there before. It was. It’s always been there. Of course, prior to the mid-1960s, it was also heavily in play with the Democratic Party, primarily in the South.

Screw that “primarily” shit. There’s racists all over this country. Of every race and demographic but you only see white and south? Bussing in Boston in the ’70s comes to mind. MOVE in Philadelphia. Much more than that since. Where I believe you get it wrong is by playing the race card. This country is dividing much faster based upon class than race.

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Looks more like gold.

Fisher and Snead both are no better than 5.0.

zn wrote:

bnw wrote:

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Those words don’t mean anything to me either.

Left and Right, Forward and Backward — those are
the words wv-brain can process.

w
v

I just sense the sort of “living map” made by active gravitational waves.

Yes, technically, that’s a superpower, for all the good it does, since I never go anywhere anyway.

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Yes I do believe you possess a hair lined void in which bounces about a chunk of magnetite. A superpower you share with pigeons and crustaceans.

They don’t sense gravitational waves. And it wouldn’t help them much if they did. They sense magnetic fields. Now see that’s useful.

BTW some are finding possible evidence that humans sense magnetic fields too.

You would have to be the size of a planet or much larger to sense a gravitational wave. So eat up and definitely bring your ego.

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Those words don’t mean anything to me either.

Left and Right, Forward and Backward — those are
the words wv-brain can process.

w
v

I just sense the sort of “living map” made by active gravitational waves.

Yes, technically, that’s a superpower, for all the good it does, since I never go anywhere anyway.

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Yes I do believe you possess a hair lined void in which bounces about a chunk of magnetite. A superpower you share with pigeons and crustaceans.