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So the Emancipation Proclamation was an executive order. Should Lincoln have issued an executive order to free the slaves? People could respond No to that, I suppose, while still believing slavery should be terminated.
I hope people don’t argue that because the actual document that legally and permanently freed the slaves was the 13th amendment.
Lincoln himself had doubts about the legal standing of the Proclamation. On top of it the EP didn’t free slaves in border states which had not joined the Conferacy.
The EP didn’t free the slaves in the Confederacy either.
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bnwBlockedHillary Clinton needs to address the racist undertones of her 2008 campaign
Ryan Cooper
July 23, 2015
Black Lives Matter, the advocacy group for black interests, has gotten the attention of the Democratic presidential candidates, who are reportedly scrambling to reach out to the movement. Even heavy favorite Hillary Clinton is getting in on it, addressing the movement in a Q&A session on Facebook, where she checked most of the right boxes.
DeRay McKesson, one of the movement’s leaders, wrote on Twitter that the post was “solid.” But he also noted that she had two days to work on it, and did not attend the liberal forum Netroots Nation, unlike her challengers Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley, who flailed in front of activists from Black Lives Matter.
McKesson is right to be suspicious. Hillary Clinton’s record on race is not great. If she wishes to earn some trust on issues of racial justice, a good place to start would be with the distinctly racist undertones of her 2008 campaign against Barack Obama.
As the first primaries got underway in 2008, and Obama began to slowly pull ahead, the Clinton camp resorted to increasingly blatant race- and Muslim-baiting. It started in February, when Louis Farrakhan, the head of the Nation of Islam, endorsed Obama in a sermon. In a debate a couple days later, moderator Tim Russert repeatedly pressed Obama on the issue, who responded with repeated reassurances that he did not ask for the endorsement, did not accept it, and in fact was not a deranged anti-Semite. That wasn’t enough for Clinton, who demanded that Obama “denounce” Farrakhan, which he did.
About the same time, a picture of Obama in traditional Somali garb (from an official trip) then appeared on the Drudge Report, and Matt Drudge claimed he got it from the Clinton campaign. After stonewalling on the origin question, the campaign later claimed it had nothing to do with it. A Clinton flack then went on MSNBC and argued that Obama should not be ashamed to appear in “his native clothing, in the clothing of his country.”
Later, a media firestorm blew up when it was discovered that Obama’s Chicago pastor Jeremiah Wright once delivered a sermon containing the words “God damn America.” In response, Obama gave a deft, nuanced speech on racial issues, but Clinton kept the issue alive by insisting she would have long ago denounced the man.
The late Michael Hastings, who covered Clinton’s campaign, described one instance of this strategy on the ground:
[Clinton supporter] Buffenbarger launched into a rant in which he compared Obama to Muhammad Ali, the best-known black American convert to Islam after Malcolm X. “But brothers and sisters,” he said, “I’ve seen Ali in action. He could rope-a-dope with Foreman inside the ring. He could go toe-to-toe with Liston inside the ring. He could get his jaw broken by Norton and keep fighting inside the ring. But Barack Obama is no Muhammad Ali.” The cunning racism of the attack actually made my heart start to beat fast and my ears start to ring. For the first time on the campaign trail, I felt completely outraged. I kept thinking, “Am I misreading this?” But there was no way, if you were in that room, to think it was anything other than what it was. [GQ]
Then there was Bill Clinton comparing Obama’s campaign to that of Jesse Jackson’s unsuccessful run in 1988. The capstone came in May, when Hillary Clinton started openly boasting about her superior support from white voters.
The effort was not so blatant as George H.W. Bush’s Willie Horton ad, but the attempt to play on racist attitudes through constant repetition and association was unmistakable — in addition to playing into right-wing conspiracy theories that Obama is a secret Muslim who was born in Africa. It’s likely why in West Virginia — a state so racist that some guy in a Texas prison got 40 percent of the Democratic primary vote in 2012 — Clinton won a smashing victory.
This brings us back to today’s presidential race. Many of the demands posed by activists focus on rhetorical gestures of support and solidarity (a notable feature of the Netroots confrontation last weekend). But this raises this issue of trust: A very charming, cynical person could simply promise support using the right words, win the election, then forget all about it.
Does the Hillary Clinton of 2008 sound like someone who’s genuinely committed to the cause of racial justice? If she has changed her views, now would be a good time to explain.
http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign
No I don’t believe Hildabeast will ever explain her racism.
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bnwBlockedWell what is good for the goose-
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockedThe state level is much closer to the people. That cannot be denied.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedI am personally invested in his campaign since it is addressing many of the issues I’ve considered important for over 20 years. The problems of trade imbalance, jobs and job security with outsourcing jobs offshore, illegal immigration, never ending war, saddling future generations with our debt, Wall Street above the law, falling standard of living, healthcare held hostage to politics, interventionist foreign policy, and the need to audit then abolish the Federal Reserve.
I’ve wanted all of this and it is within the Trump campaign that these issues are addressed. Leftists hate the delivery of the message. Too bad. The establishment has had its time and failed. Obama promised change. We received change for the worse in a failing economy, failed foreign policy, by design worsening race relations, insane increases in the cost of healthcare, shovel ready jobs that meant shovel the public money to political cronies and failed green energy tech companies, and the deliberate policy to menace Russia.
Trump addresses the real issues. I expect him to make real progress when president.
I don’t overlook his imperfections. I see them. He’s human. He’s new to politics and thus his delivery is very raw and out there compared to the establishment candidates. That is a great part of Trump’s appeal. He’s perceived as genuine. In politics today that is quite powerful. I do not believe he is a racist and I’m sick of the charge being leveled constantly at those who disagree on policy. Political correctness doesn’t work any more and it is high time the race pimps realize it.
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bnwBlockedThat there would be my first question to tea partiers. I’ve asked it many times btw, over the years. Never once got a good answer. Closest anyone ever came to answering it was “well, first we need to end big government, then we’ll deal with big corporations and banks’.
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————-With what mechanism…since they just dismantled government?
Not government. Big government. Power closer to the people as at the state level.
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bnwBlockedYeah, you know, to people who make a habit of following fact trails, the dismissal of a boatload of evidence with a dismissive wave of the hand – “race card; one trick pony” – without actually dealing with the specific charges only earns a facepalm. It may work in your neck of the woods, but here, on this board, people who see you blithely dismiss specific charges backed up with news stories from a wide array of sources, well, they just see you as a partisan hack without any interest in truth.
I’m not playing to a crowd. I give my opinion. Try it. Its liberating. As for truth do you go after the Ildabeast’s lies? Of course not. Look in the mirror and you’ll see a partisan hack.
Not all opinions have equal merit. Some are based on evidence, and others are not. On this issue, I use as evidence the fact that Trump has been legally ruled against for racist rental practices, literally fined for racist policies, quoted as saying prejudiced things, testified against by people who know him personally, and endorsed by racist organizations and praised by them for saying racist things.
You support your opinion with the claim that a charge of racism is not worthy of serious consideration simply because such charges have frequently been made against many people throughout the years.
As for Hillary, I have written many posts criticizing her, and the only person on this board who actually supports her is Waterfield.
The rest of us have not blinded ourselves to her deficiencies. We have just grown accustomed to the realization that Trump is a racist, ignorant, reckless, self-aggrandizing conman with no grasp of policy, no knowledge of history, and no understanding of leadership whose election to the most powerful job on the planet is cause for deep concern. This isn’t the WWE. This is actually important.
Typical leftist. Only your opinion has merit. You’re partisan but too invested in acting superior to admit it. Fear mongering away as usual to justify in your mind your overt partisanship. What you dismiss as her “deficiencies” is in reality her being above the law. For decades at that. She called black youth “Super Predators” but through your partisan filter you ignore that while claiming Trump is a racist.
Now put your ear to the ground and you will hear your leftist white knight moderator riding to your defense.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedYeah, you know, to people who make a habit of following fact trails, the dismissal of a boatload of evidence with a dismissive wave of the hand – “race card; one trick pony” – without actually dealing with the specific charges only earns a facepalm. It may work in your neck of the woods, but here, on this board, people who see you blithely dismiss specific charges backed up with news stories from a wide array of sources, well, they just see you as a partisan hack without any interest in truth.
I’m not playing to a crowd. I give my opinion. Try it. Its liberating. As for truth do you go after the Ildabeast’s lies? Of course not. Look in the mirror and you’ll see a partisan hack.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedIldabeast unwilling to campaign other than calling Trump supporters “deplorable” and with Trump surging in the polls the desperation of the left is satisfying. Always playing the race card. The one trick pony that no longer gets attention. Your next president is Donald J. Trump.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedMost people in the US that buy swordfish steaks are actually buying shark.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 7:18 pm in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53532bnwBlockedEven when the Rams were really good in St.Louis and the Ed was packed full you didn’t see the crap you routinely see on both coasts. And heat exhaustion in 75 degrees temperature not happening.
Heat exhaustion… let me just say that 95 degree dry California heat is no match for 80 degree heat with 91% STL humidity……. I know, I know…. it doesn’t apply to the climate control EJ dome that spawned the great staph infection of 2005 RIP Jack Snow….
No you do not understand the heat index. If you live on the coasts where it is much milder you don’t have the need. I’ve always lived in the midwest and south. Depending upon the work outdoors the heat index is closely followed. At 80 degrees and 91% humidity the heat index is 86 degrees. Your so called dry heat of 95 degrees is still much more than 86 degrees.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/heatindexcalcs.htmllet me just say that st louis summers are way more unbearable compared to los angeles summers.
St. Louis Cardinals baseball and Budweiser Beer makes St. Louis summers bearable.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 6:01 pm in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53525bnwBlockedCertain aspects of fan-culture are pretty universal, so some aspects of St.Louis fans and LA fans are the same. And then certain aspects of fan-culture are distinct to certain geographic areas and socio-economic spots.
I have no idea if there will be more fights in LA than in St.Louis. Maybe
there will be. And maybe the Coliseum crowds will be different from the new-stadium crowds. Dunno.It would be nice if the Rams Organization tried to be classy in every way, including safety issues, water, prices, handicap accessibility, etc, etc etc.
I dunno if that is likely thoughw
vPrices? Really? You already know the answer to that. No hem and haw needed. Unless by “classy” you mean stratospheric pricing?
Hey, water doesn’t grow on trees, ya know.
I didn’t but you’re right. Although verifying that I did learn about the Groasis Waterboxx Plantcocoon.
http://www.dewharvest.com/grow-trees-without-watering.htmlThe upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 5:48 pm in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53523bnwBlockednm
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Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 4:14 pm in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53519bnwBlockedCertain aspects of fan-culture are pretty universal, so some aspects of St.Louis fans and LA fans are the same. And then certain aspects of fan-culture are distinct to certain geographic areas and socio-economic spots.
I have no idea if there will be more fights in LA than in St.Louis. Maybe
there will be. And maybe the Coliseum crowds will be different from the new-stadium crowds. Dunno.It would be nice if the Rams Organization tried to be classy in every way, including safety issues, water, prices, handicap accessibility, etc, etc etc.
I dunno if that is likely thoughw
vPrices? Really? You already know the answer to that. No hem and haw needed. Unless by “classy” you mean stratospheric pricing?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 3:35 pm in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53517bnwBlockedEven when the Rams were really good in St.Louis and the Ed was packed full you didn’t see the crap you routinely see on both coasts. And heat exhaustion in 75 degrees temperature not happening.
Heat exhaustion… let me just say that 95 degree dry California heat is no match for 80 degree heat with 91% STL humidity……. I know, I know…. it doesn’t apply to the climate control EJ dome that spawned the great staph infection of 2005 RIP Jack Snow….
No you do not understand the heat index. If you live on the coasts where it is much milder you don’t have the need. I’ve always lived in the midwest and south. Depending upon the work outdoors the heat index is closely followed. At 80 degrees and 91% humidity the heat index is 86 degrees. Your so called dry heat of 95 degrees is still much more than 86 degrees.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/heatindexcalcs.htmlThe upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 11:37 am in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53500bnwBlockedEven when the Rams were really good in St.Louis and the Ed was packed full you didn’t see the crap you routinely see on both coasts. And heat exhaustion in 75 degrees temperature not happening.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 11:32 am in reply to: Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems #53497bnwBlockedI think that it’s too bad for the Repubs he stole the nomination.
He won the nomination fair and square. He ran against the establishment and won. He will do the same against Ildabeast who truly stole her nomination.
Yeah, Trump won the nomination by being more entertaining and interesting than the rest of the flawed, beige candidates he ran against. Hillary was basically anointed before the primaries started, she didn’t steal anything.
If she was to be anointed then why have the primary election? The people spoke and they wanted Bernie.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 21, 2016 at 7:38 am in reply to: The Los Angeles Rams fan experience doesn't seem to be too great #53480bnwBlockedHas there ever been an NFL game where there weren’t fights in the stands?
Yes, Rams games in St. Louis.
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Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedBroken toe is some serious pain. (So are broken ribs.) He played well too.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockedHe did move well. I hope Brockers is alright.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockedYeah, it’s a weird combination of silly taunt, “gotcha” and trolling all in one. And it makes zero sense.
Wow. Perhaps you do not have enough sense.
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bnwBlockedWell, wasn’t the whole point of your post that if Billy T was protesting the oil pipeline in ND, he should switch to a mode of transportation that didn’t use oil?
As in, if he is against oil, he shouldn’t be able to use oil in any form forever?
Or, as I stated in my first post, are you just trying to rile him up?
Just because the economic monster needs to be fed more and more petrochemicals, doesn’t mean we have to sit back and be OK with the environmental havoc it wreaks.
My post was due to BT wanting this nation to switch to all electric cars. The Nissan Leaf given its huge depreciation at the end of its first year makes it at present a far more affordable option. I see Nissan Leafs every day. This thread has nothing to do with oil or clean water IMHO.
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bnwBlockedMy main concern with Hybrids and pure Electrics is what happens when it is time to scrap them? The Europeans are so concerned about lead in their electronics (RoHS), what happens when they have to start retiring these types of vehicles?
B, I think you are knowingly being unfair. Taking your argument one point beyond, if you are for big oil, you’re against clean water. Why don’t you try and live without clean water for a day or two and let us know how it goes…
Big oil? Or oil? Don’t understand your connecting either to clean water. And I don’t see the “argument” you think I’ve made.
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bnwBlockedTrying to pick a fight much?
Come on, mannnn!
No, simply trying to let BT fulfill his personal dream of all electric transportation. Given that depreciation I would hope everyone would have the sense to buy it used.
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September 20, 2016 at 2:29 pm in reply to: Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems #53420bnwBlockedNow, my guess is, as is the usual case, that his supporters will dismiss the mountains of facts and evidence, and just fall back on the narrative that’s he’s being persecuted and is the ultimate in perfection and can do no wrong.
We live in the ‘post truth’ era of American politics. Not that there was ever a time when politicians didn’t lie, but there’s never been a time when politicians could say such outrageously obvious lies and not be held accountable for it.
Until today.
Welcome to post truth America.
You mean like –
“I did not have sex with that woman”
“A vast right wing conspiracy”
so many others.The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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September 20, 2016 at 2:27 pm in reply to: Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems #53419bnwBlockedI think that it’s too bad for the Repubs he stole the nomination.
He won the nomination fair and square. He ran against the establishment and won. He will do the same against Ildabeast who truly stole her nomination.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedHe’s had way more support than the polls have shown from the start. The establishment will pull out all the stops in stealing this election. Therefore Trump has to get massive turnout to overcome the vote fraud.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedAnother London game? London Rams some day?
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September 19, 2016 at 6:00 pm in reply to: Seahawks to be penalized for violating NFL OTA rules… #53345bnwBlockedNice! Gives Petey something else to act like a 2 year old about.
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bnwBlockedMore fear mongering and Trump bashing.
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