Dak wrote:

Just about anything but Stallions.

You know, Missouri was almost called the Cave State. Maybe the St. Louis Spelunkers. Or, Cavers.

I didn’t like the Stallions either. For Louisville fine. St. Louis, no.

That is possible and isn’t there a NBA team with that name?

No way to spin it. It is a shot across the bow of the barge churning upstream to get a stadium deal done in St. Louis.

znhater wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:
goodness.

i can’t see any logical reason to make me think that kroenke isn’t planning on moving to los angeles.

and my guess is he moves whether or not the nfl approves of a move.

Just like they did when they moved to st Louis. The nfl said no, Georgia got the lawyers out and the NFL caved.

Difference is the NFL now has a rule that owners must make a good faith effort to keep their team in the market before exploring other options. Kroenke (despite being a real estate developer) has not done so if he wants to move as this deal proves. Unlike Georgia’s move this clause is actionable on the part of the NFL in this instance. I still believe he is kicking the PTB in the pants to get a deal finalized in St. Louis. A move could still happen though a guarantee of a future NFL team is very likely because of the rule.

Long overdue for St. louis.

Would discount it yet DV returned and was successful so we will see.

A DL catches Hill’s low pass better than his WRs.

Happy Birthday Jesus!

Austin is 5th gear and Schotty can only drive a 3-speed. Martz would have made Austin a household name by now.

That fat Austin Powers can sit and spin on a saguaro for all I care.

That’s great news. More time to work it out in St. Louis.

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Geez your delusional and you sure as hell are not making any sense. Your living off that Stan is a good old Missouri boy thing huh?

I’m done talking with you because you simply are living in never never land.

Don’t poop your shorts come Feb 15th when its announced they are moving.

Grits

To have a different opinion is delusional?

Mackeyser wrote:

Here’s the thing.

Los Angeles is NOT going to build a stadium with public funds. It just WILL NOT.

The 9er Stadium is private. The likely proposed Charger stadium that’s being talked about is PRIVATE.

Any LA stadium will be private.

The finances have been gone over. Likely $1.5B for a stadium. The NFL will INSIST on the LA stadium being a landmark for the league. They’ve already stated that they want Super Bowls back there and the Draft is going to be in LA for 2015, iirc.

The relocation fee? Well, let’s just be clear that it will be north of $1B.

So, we’re talking $1.5B financed, and $1B in payments, but it’s still $2.5B in the hole to move.

For…what? maybe an extra $1B in equity? The revenue projections had REALLY better be there…

Now, we can’t talk about the Clippers and Dodgers sales too closely because THEY also include VERY lucrative local television contracts. The Dodgers have 81 games away… many of which can be televised. I’m not sure how many are under the latest contract, but it’s substantial. And the radio rights aren’t cheap, either. And while the Clippers aren’t a huge draw, they STILL have that local TV contract.

NO NFL team has a local TV contract and the number of games preclude economy of scale revenues like Baseball and even to a lesser extent Basketball can achieve.

NFL teams get the BIG network monies, gate receipts, and licensing.

I would challenge the math about Kroenke doing better in LA. Based on what?

Equity? In what term? Immediately, the debt would outweigh any “value” from a balance sheet perspective.

Income? Well, sure, he’ll make more. I would expect a fair bit more. However, I’m not sure it offsets the relocation fee, let alone the stadium cost. I could be generous and say the difference between a stadium in St. Louis and the NFL Flagship stadium in LA, but even still, I’m not sure the income difference covers either one.

I think LA is an option that Kroenke will pursue because he has to. If he doesn’t, he’ll be mired in stasis while local politicians dither until eternity.

That said, he’s about as Mizzou as Mizzou gets and if he can make the balance sheet work in his favor in St. Louis, it’s far more likely he does that.

PLUS, he’ll have the added bonus of not drawing the ire of fellow owners who would INSIST that he rectify his cross-ownership issues.

See, if he moves the Rams to LA, you can guarantee that there won’t be any more leeway on THAT issue. Losing LA as the big lever will materially damage the other owners (not able to extort cities for new stadiums as easily and that will cost billions of dollars in the long term to NFL owners just in stadium costs alone). So, rest assured that any move to LA will require tons of compensation and every *i* dotted and every *t* crossed.

Won’t the three other NFL teams in the state stand to lose revenue from an LA team? Read an interview with Kroenke years ago that mentioned his mother-in-law is a huge St. Louis Rams fan too. How about tax liability in LA vs. St. Louis?