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  • in reply to: Taibbi on the thingie #99339
    Billy_T
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    It’s taken a personal turn for me, too.

    On another forum, loaded with Dems and Republicans, I’m one of the few leftists there, at any time. Maybe two or three others.

    But one of them seems hellbent on trashing anyone who even remotely accepts the reporting done on the investigation. He or she follows Greenwald and Dore almost word for word and then accuses “Russiagators” of wanting to kill brown and black people.

    He/she actually makes that leap. The mere acceptance of most of the reporting, in that person’s mind, leads directly to war, to the support of war. This accusation was lodged after I spent a few post praising the recent excellent history book, How to Hide an Empire, by Daniel Immerwahr . . . a devastating take down of American empire and its atrocities on the road to that empire.

    In short, even consistent antiwar, anti-empire, anticapitalist leftists are not safe from the lashing out. Apparently, if you stand with most of the reports on Russia, you want to literally kill people.

    It’s gotten that crazy.

    in reply to: Taibbi on the thingie #99338
    Billy_T
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    Well….I think its worse than that, as you probly know.

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    I know. But I think most of the discussion from the Greenwalds and the Dores is based on assumption about “how the investigation impacts” X, Y and Z. And they get that all wrong.

    For instance, this didn’t cause the re-emergence of the neocons. They never left.

    This didn’t cause the media to suddenly start loving the FBI, the CIA and the Intel community. When haven’t they backed them? The 1960s, perhaps?

    This didn’t cause the media to suddenly start loving war, empire, and the whole rotten establishment again. When did they ever stop doing that? One has only to look back as far as the Iraq war to remember the media’s devotion to the drums of war, and all of those generals Bush trotted out on TV — with direct ties to the MIC.

    The media are owned by the Establishment. When haven’t they be on its side?

    Oh, and the critique of the media also avoids this: Trump is the Establishment. Trump is the most powerful person in the world. Fighting against people supposedly trying to bring him down isn’t fighting for the good guys. It’s not noble, virtuous, righteous fighting for the underdog, the oppressed, the poor, the downtrodden. It’s fighting reporters doing their job, uncovering his crimes, which are legion.

    Who does this serve? No one. Does it feed a single hungry person? No. Does it stop a single bomb from falling? No. Trump has actually escalated ALL of our military ventures.

    Who is this helping?

    And, again, we only have Barr’s summary. We all need to be patient for a bit longer.

    in reply to: Taibbi on the thingie #99335
    Billy_T
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    Also, the rationale from that corner of the left who screamed about how terrible this all was . . . makes no sense and is itself hysterical in my view.

    The investigation and its coverage was never going to lead to war with Russia. It has nukes. We don’t attack countries with nukes. And our relationship was for shit already.

    The investigation/reporting wasn’t going to lead to Clinton back in the White House, because that’s not how impeachment and removal works. Pence would be the president, not HRC.

    The investigation was started by Republicans, with Comey the Republican at its head. Trump wins, fires Republican Comey, which gives us Republican Mueller, because Republican Sessions had recused himself, and Republican Rosenstein — a Trump appointee — names Republican Mueller to head the investigation . . . all the while the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court is in Republican hands.

    But this is all supposedly on the Dems to get Clinton in the White House again?

    The Media simply covered Trump and his fellow Republicans. And if the media overdid the coverage at times, guess who really is to blame for all of that?

    Trump. He never shut up about “Russher.”

    So, again, this was all some nefarious plot to bring Trump down, led by Trump himself and his own party?

    Seriously, the hysteria is on the part of those bashing the media and the Dems right now.

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    in reply to: Taibbi on the thingie #99334
    Billy_T
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    in reply to: Taibbi on the thingie #99333
    Billy_T
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    Taibbi is normally really good. But he, like so many others, have jumped the gun on this.

    Barr, Trump’s hand-picked AG, who auditioned for the job with 19 pages of suck-up, summarized Mueller’s report. It’s basically an Op Ed.

    Let’s at least wait for the actual thing.

    Also, I’ve noticed a real pattern from the lefty folks who lashed out at anyone who had the nerve not to call this all a hoax:

    They seem absolutely giddy with the Barr summary — the guy who pardoned all of those Iran Contra crooks.

    And their description of the supposed media crimes is filled with the same kind of hysteria and overreach they accused the Media of.

    As in, the vast majority of the reporting was measured and based entirely on Trump’s own words and deeds, as well as Mueller’s. Very little of it, beyond a few TV pundits, was “overreach” or “hysterical” or “vocally calling for Mueller to save us all from Trump.”

    But that doesn’t stop Greenwald and company from tarring and feathering ALL media with that brush, which would be better directed to a few screamers, most of whom were Republican Never Trumpers, btw.

    in reply to: "yes or no" #99305
    Billy_T
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    Our economic system is obscenely elitist and exclusionary for that reason alone. It’s a club whose membership is limited in the extreme, but gets to call all the shots for everyone else.

    The vast majority of the citizenry will never, ever be members. But the citizenry have to obey the folks in the club, regardless. We’re not allowed inside, but we have to obey the dictates of those merry few who are.

    Which reminds me of that Dutch guy who made headlines at Davos for saying no one was talking about the most important thing, taxes.

    Yeah, higher taxes on the rich are definitely needed. But that is in no way the most important thing. We shouldn’t allow billionaires to exist in the first place. If we were sane, we’d have an economy that functioned fairly, justly, upfront, with as close to equal compensation as possible . . . so “the state” wouldn’t have to come in afterwards and offset massive inequalities on the back-end. A just economy wouldn’t need that kind of redress in the first place.

    in reply to: "yes or no" #99304
    Billy_T
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    “Capital” is money above and beyond debts and cost of living — to the point where the owner of that capital doesn’t have to sell their labor power to others in order to live.

    It’s not just accumulated cash. It’s enough cash to make it possible to be financially independent, basically.

    Again, how many Americans will ever have that kind of cash? Much less invest it to produce commodities, etc?

    In short, the vast majority of people who say they’re capitalists, aren’t. Elizabeth Warren is a recent example of someone who shouldn’t have answered yes to that question.

    in reply to: "yes or no" #99303
    Billy_T
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    I took it like this:

    It makes no sense to ask yes or no to two different positions at the same time. They need to be asked separately to make any sense.

    Are you a capitalist, yes or no?
    Are you a socialist, yes or no?

    But not together. That’s like asking are you left or right handed, yes or no.

    The second level of dumb is asking people if they’re a capitalist or not. So few Americans are, it’s always going to be misleading and erroneous when a majority answers yes. What they really mean to say is that they support the capitalist system, not that they qualify as being a capitalist.

    You aren’t a capitalist if you don’t have capital, and very few people have it. You then have to invest that capital in a business venture, purchasing labor power to produce commodities for sale, the surplus value of which you appropriate for yourself, as if you did all the work.

    Roughly speaking, less than 3% of the country can accurately claim to be “capitalists.”

    Billy_T
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    On Bortles:

    I’m all for the signing. They need to do it. He’s been a starter, and the Rams currently have no one who can win games against good teams behind Goff.

    I also like the idea of coaching him up, giving him some games to shine in, and then trading him later for draft picks. In fact, I think the Rams should have QBs for that every year. Develop them, trade them at their “peak,” have another waiting in the wings. At least as long as Goff is QB1.

    Billy_T
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    “[W]e’ve talked a little bit about the flexibility that Michael Brockers does give you to play nose and five,” Snead said. “Then it gets into, do we add anybody else during free agency or the draft? And what his flexibility allows you to do is to pick the best player and not necessarily, ‘We’ve got to have a nose tackle,’ because, hey, maybe the best five technique will move down. So it does give you some flexibility and that’s what we are going to do there.”

    that settles it.

    it’s either lawrence or tillery with the first pick.

    I’ve never understood the Rams’ seeming reluctance to stick a true hogmolly in the middle, especially given their relatively small linebackers.

    Someone like Lawrence would take up serious space, open things up for Donald, and protect the linebackers too — give them room to move.

    Donald is likely the best D player in the league, and maybe by a good margin, but he obviously can’t do it all himself. He needs help. A 6’4″, 342 immovable object would go a long, long way in providing that.

    Phillips, of course, doesn’t run a traditional 34, but the current personnel on the D require a traditional hogmolly like Ngata or Wolfork in their primes. They would be the pivot point for the D and set the table for everyone else to run amok.

    And, because I’m a very greedy fan, I want that plus a tall, fast-twitch, scary-fast edge rusher to pair with Fowler too.

    This year, the draft probably only gets the Rams one of those things. DT is a great place to start.

    in reply to: Farming gave us the F-word #98978
    Billy_T
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    I haven’t read those books, Billy. They do look interesting so when I get a chance I will check them out.

    Cool. Would really like to hear your take. ZN talked about them a bit. He has a much better background in science than I do. But, unless I’m mistaken, you’re an actual scientist in real life, so your view would be a great addition.

    in reply to: Farming gave us the F-word #98970
    Billy_T
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    Slightly OT:

    Did you see my recommendations for two very recent science books?

    Have you read them and do you know the authors? Both focus primarily on evolutionary science.

    The Tangled Tree, by David Quammen
    The Goodness Paradox, by Richard Wrangham.

    Both are seriously fascinating. My guess is someone with a science background would get even more out of them.

    https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Tangled-Tree/David-Quammen/9781476776620

    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/530240/the-goodness-paradox-by-richard-wrangham/9781101870907/

    in reply to: tweets n stuff … 3/14 #98969
    Billy_T
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    I don’t want Jachai Polite in the First.

    Too slow, too short, seems to have a bad attitude, at least from what we’ve been told. Which may be unfair to the guy, but who knows?

    I’d rather they just stick with the guys already on the roster than go for another undersized edge. Obo and Ebukam are both faster. Though I really don’t know what to make of the latter.

    He tested at sub 4.5, but plays slower than that. The eye-ball test for me is that he gained too much weight to better handle bigger O-line guys, and lost a step or two.

    Still, he had one of the most dominant games I’ve ever seen, against KC. Or was it another team?

    Anyway . . . if he could crush it in one game, that means he has the potential for much more.

    IMO, if they can’t find someone 6’4″ or taller, with serious speed and a very quick step, go in another direction. DT would be the most logical, in my view.

    Can’t help but be a bit worried about the defense so far. I have confidence in the O. Not the D. But even the O needs work along the line, and for McVay to really surprise opponents with varied personnel packages.

    If they do, I think the Super Bowl again is the likely end story.

    in reply to: tweets … 3/10 & 3/11 #98860
    Billy_T
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    Torn labrum? Wow. I have one now. It’s freakin painful just to reach for a book. The range of motion is seriously limited.

    I can’t imagine having to play on the defensive line with that injury.

    . . .

    Was hoping the Rams would get Morse. It may well be that their cap space is too small to add anyone until a few more rounds of signings.

    Not really unhappy they lost Joyner. But losing Saffold, if it happens, will hurt that line. He’s probably their best run-blocker and is seriously stout. Might be the strongest guy on the team.

    They probably needed to re-sign Fowler, but as mentioned above, that won’t change the need for getting another edge or two.

    It likely won’t come to this, but I’d be seriously conflicted if Lawrence and Burns were there for the Rams at #31. I’d love to have both of them on the team and it would be hard to choose. Probably Burns, by a nose. If they get Shelton, that makes the decision easier.

    They have more holes to fill than I had hoped.

    in reply to: Two (new) excellent scienzy books are must-read. #98716
    Billy_T
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    ZN,

    The author talks a lot about dogs versus wolves. Basically says dogs are domesticated wolves, which makes sense.

    The fascinating thing is the physical changes too, via evolution. Floppy ears, generally smaller faces, less difference between male and female, smaller bones.

    Of course, with dog breeds, this becomes much more complicated.

    The author also talks about the scientist, Belyaev, who experimented with wild minks. He and his assistants began to separate minks that seemed less aggressive and okay with humans, from those who weren’t, bred them, tracked them, and noted the behavioral and physical changes. Because mink generations are relatively short, they could see this over the course of decades.

    Much tougher to be certain with Home Sapiens, of course, but there are noticeable physical changes between us and Neanderthal, which the author sees as the next best comparison to our ancient ancestors prior to Homo Sapiens. We don’t have floppy ears yet, but perhaps that’s coming!

    ;>)

    I wish I had a better background in science, and enjoy talking about this stuff with those who do. Books like the two I mention really help me extend the knowledge base.

    Billy_T
    Participant

    I think his on the field production warrants a First Rounder, clearly.

    His age, perhaps, knocks that down to a Second.

    His public comments knocks that down to a Third.

    The Raiders got a “steal,” if AB let’s his play on the field do his talking.

    in reply to: tweets … 3/8 & 3/9 #98695
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I think Fowler is much better than what they have behind him on the depth chart, but I also think he’s an underachiever, and will likely remain so. I don’t see him as ever being dominant, and I don’t think opposing OCs “fear” him.

    Just my gut, and I hope I’m wrong.

    Of course, if it were easy to find great edge rushers who alter games, every team would have them. But I sure would love the Rams to find one to pair with AD. Two, preferably.

    And this may be neurotic worrying of sorts, but AD isn’t getting younger. He’ll be 28 for the upcoming season. So, the Rams can’t mess around when it comes to finding him serious help — now. He also plays like a crazy person every game, and I don’t see him taking downs off, like a typical DT.

    In short, the Future is Now for the Rams when it comes to this.

    Am still hoping for Dexter Lawrence in the Draft, or Brian Burns. Neither, however, is likely to be there at 31.

    in reply to: Greg Palast on the NYTimes, etc #98692
    Billy_T
    Participant

    And then there’s this: Dore blasts mainstream reporters from the comfort of his video room. But these same reporters receive death threats constantly for their reporting — here and overseas. Trump, at his rallies, for instance, points them out and they get death threats.

    All over the world, reporters face this, and many are actually killed. It happens often in Russia.

    Yeah, corporate media steer them away from investigations into selected corporations. And that’s terrible for all of us. But it’s far too easy for someone like Jimmy Dore, whom no one sees as a threat to power, to slam them, having never walked in their moccasins.

    Do I wish they could report the truth, without restraint? Of course. I despise our capitalist system and its effects. But I think it’s immensely unfair, and naive, to suggest that reporters who write stories critical of the most powerful man on earth are necessarily cowards and just doing the bidding of plutocrats and oligarchs. They’re actually going against a large set of plutocrats and oligarchs in the process. What they do is dangerous, and trashing it doesn’t help one single poor person on earth, or the earth itself.

    in reply to: Greg Palast on the NYTimes, etc #98691
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I agree with Dore and Palast about Venezuela, and election fraud. It’s all 2+2=4. But Dore frustrates the hell out of me on the Russia question. He just doesn’t take his own advice about “looking down the street,” and he’s never been able to make the case that “People are after X (Trump), because he or she is helping the poor, or POCs, etc. etc.” He hasn’t tried to, of course, cuz it would be ludicrous.

    Investigating Russia’s interference in the election, and Trump’s corruption there and elsewhere, in no way aids some grand conspiracy to help the ruling class or the power elite or makes anyone richer. Russia is a far-right oligarchy, to our center-right oligarchy. Holding them, and Trump, to account doesn’t alter this, doesn’t serve any “Masters,” doesn’t help the oppressed in any way, shape or form.

    And, it can’t be some pretext to war, like the lies in the run-up to Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Iran and Venezuela . . . because America isn’t ever going to go to war against Russia. It would mean the end of the world.

    Dore also ignores the hundreds of times Trump, his family, and his surrogates have lied about dealings with Russia. We know this, because we have this on tape. We’ve seen them go from “There were no dealings with Russia” to “Well, we had a few,” to “Well, there were many but they were all innocent,” to “Well, yeah, they happened but none of that is illegal.”

    Our corporate media do suck. But when it comes to the Russia investigation, they keep revealing truths and forcing Trump and his team to admit them, eventually. If there were some grand conspiracy to manufacture this, why is it continually being proven to be true? Why is there overwhelming evidence to support that it happened, much of which Trump and company had admitted to?

    in reply to: Rams release LB Mark Barron, save $6.33 million #98621
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I hope Brockers takes Suh’s spot, but adds some weight in the off-season. I think he played too slim last year.

    I’m also hoping they draft Dexter Lawrence from Clemson, and work him into the rotation. He’s my first choice for #31, with Brian Burns being the second. Unfortunately, it may well be that both players are already gone.

    I’ll be disappointed if they go Safety or Center there, unless the players at those spots are the obvious BPA/value. Would rather they fix those issues via FA, though.

    Want the Rams to get lucky and find an elite-level DT or Edge. IMO, the draft is the best way to get there and, generally speaking, the least costly.

    Billy_T
    Participant

    Coupla more useful articles — at the risk of a kind of counter-piling on . . .

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/06/ilhan-omar-weaponisation-of-anti-semitism

    It contains an article to yet another good one, with a link to a video of her comments. It’s a very long URL, so I shortened it:

    https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2qbjufa

    In my view, nothing she said was anti-Semitic, inaccurate, much less “hate-filled.” And the uproar over her comments have literally endangered Omar and Tlaib. They’re getting constant death threats.

    Soooo pissed off at the Dems for caving to the GOP on this one. They should have rallied around her. Stood tall, unified, etc.

    Billy_T
    Participant

    Excellent article by Paul Waldman on the same subject:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/dishonest-smearing-ilhan-omar/?utm_term=.196551af79ee

    The dishonest smearing of Ilhan Omar

    Excerpt:

    In what is surely the most shameful decision of her current term as speaker, Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has decided that the time has come for the House to rebuke Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) for things she didn’t actually say, and ideas she didn’t actually express. In the process, Pelosi and other Democrats are helping propagate a series of misconceptions about anti-Semitism, Israel, and U.S. political debate.

    I’m going to try to bring some clarity to this issue, understanding how difficult it can be whenever we discuss anything that touches on Israel.

    To be clear, I do this as someone who was raised in an intensely Zionist family with a long history of devotion and sacrifice for Israel, but who also — like many American Jews — has become increasingly dismayed not only by developments in Israel but by how we talk about it here in the United States.

    In the latest round of controversy, Omar said during a town hall, regarding U.S. policy toward Israel, “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country.” This comment was roundly condemned by members of Congress and many others for being anti-Semitic. Rep. Eliot L. Engel (D-N.Y.) called her statement “a vile anti-Semitic slur” and accused her of questioning “the loyalty of fellow American citizens.”

    Pelosi then announced that the House would vote on a resolution which, while not mentioning Omar by name, is clearly meant as a condemnation of her. It contains multiple “whereas” statements about the danger of accusing Jews of “dual loyalty.”

    So let’s talk about this idea of “dual loyalty,” and how it does and doesn’t relate to Omar’s comments. For many years, Jews were routinely accused of having dual loyalty, to both the United States and Israel, as a way of questioning whether they were truly American and could be trusted to do things such as serve in sensitive national security positions.

    That charge was anti-Semitic, because it was used to allege that every Jew was suspect, no matter what they thought about Israel, and that they could not be fully American because they were assumed to have too much affection for another country. It wasn’t about the particulars of U.S. policy or what Jews at the time were advocating; it was about who they (allegedly) were, their identity.

    Now, back to Omar. Here’s the truth: The whole purpose of the Democrats’ resolution is to enforce dual loyalty not among Jews, but among members of Congress, to make sure that criticism of Israel is punished in the most visible way possible. This, of course, includes Omar. As it happens, this punishment of criticism of Israel is exactly what the freshman congresswoman was complaining about, and has on multiple occasions. The fact that no one seems to acknowledge that this is her complaint shows how spectacularly disingenuous Omar’s critics are being.

    You may have noticed that almost no one uses “dual loyalty” as a way of questioning whether Jews are loyal to the United States anymore. Why has it almost disappeared as an anti-Semitic slur? Because, over the last three decades, support for Israel has become increasingly associated with conservative evangelicals and the Republican Party.

    in reply to: so Bernie is running #98181
    Billy_T
    Participant

    So I think Bernie Sanders…who is SO far to the Left that he is practically Dwight Eisenhower…is the likely nominee.

    I like that. It’s amazing, isn’t it? AOC is calling for 70% on money made above 10 million. Ike had a top rate of 91% on money made above 200K. Of course, that’s likely in the millions after inflation by now, though it’s pretty difficult to make exact translations between 1960 and today. But his top rate was higher, regardless. AOC’s proposal supposedly makes her a “commie.”

    Sheesh.

    Another irony. Warren used to be a Republican.

    Agree about the Hegelian dialect thing too. Though I wonder how that will impact 2020, exactly. I knew, for instance, before the 2016 election, that it was madness to run another Clinton, a dynasty candidate, the insider’s insider, when the electorate was in such an anti-establishment mood. Well, that is, anti-establishment for Americans, which usually just means voting for yet another elite/member of the ruling class, etc. So will they be pining for one of the old guard to make them feel comfortable again after the madness of Trump?

    in reply to: Laker World #98143
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Because the Lakers are the only team in the NBA that actually matters.

    Dude, Paula Abdul is no longer a cheerleader, Jack Nicholson and Diane Cannon no longer have their butts in the Forum….

    Dr Buss is dead and so are the Lakers.. they won’t even make the 8th seed this year……

    without searching DUCK DUCK GO, Does anyone even know the name of the current Laker Head Coach? I’ll give you a clue, he was a Warrior assistant and his dad won a ring as a back up center vs Paula Abdul;’s showtime team……

    BTW I do hope the Lakers make the 8th seed so the Warriors can sweep them…….. these are not Chris Mullens nor Sleepy Floyd’s Warrior teams….

    Listen. Your bitterness and envy have left your soul a mere cinder. I see it all the time.

    You know, deep in that ashpit of a heart, that you will not live to see the Warriors hang their 16th Championship banner in the rafters – as I have done with the Lakers.

    I say this as a diehard Lakers’ fan, as already mentioned:

    Yes, they’ll likely be stuck in mediocrity, because of their “win now at all cost” mentality. For far too long, they’ve been drafting poorly when they do have an early pick, and trade too much away for aging veterans. Yes, they choose well late in the 1st and early 2nd, but they keep blowing lottery picks (Lonzo), or let them walk for nothing (Randle).

    It’s likely the fan-base is driving them to do this. That fan-base refuses to accept rebuilding phases, even when their necessity is beyond obvious.

    I want them to build the team with a young core, and find key vets to balance this out. How much longer does LeBron even want to play, much less with his current level of excellence? While he is supposedly crazy good about keeping in shape, Father Time never loses, especially in a sport like basketball.

    I would, however, sell the farm for one player: Giannis Antetokounmpo. He’s just 24, and he’s getting better all the time.

    in reply to: Ilhan Omar on Eliot Abrams #98115
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Forgot to add:

    The Dems also make a huge mistake — those who do this, rather — when they try to side with neocons who happen to be Never Trumpers too. Omar was correct in her condemnation of Abrams, the war criminal.

    Too bad the Dem leadership isn’t “woke” when it comes to economics, war and empire. The first political party that pushes a truly enlightened vision on all those fronts (including the culture wars) will own the future.

    in reply to: Ilhan Omar on Eliot Abrams #98112
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I was soooo pizzed off the way the Dems, with minor reservations, threw Omar under the bus. She said nothing wrong, and nothing “anti-Semitic” in the slightest.

    Apparently, it’s now verbotten to be critical of lobbying groups, even lobbying groups for other countries. Well, certain countries, that is.

    OMG!! She said AIPAC has undue influence on American politicians!! Get the smelling salts and where’s my fainting couch!!

    Personally, I’d ban any lobbying group from DC that directly or indirectly sends money to any Congress critter, via bundling or any other means. No exceptions. Individual donations only, capped at $250. All bundling, of any kind, would be against the law.

    Want to influence law-makers? Write an Op-Ed. Use diplomatic channels with full transparency all citizens can see. But no backroom meetings. No closed-door meetings of any kind.

    The Dems should have stuck by Omar and told the GOP to fuck off.

    in reply to: Receiver #98111
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I agree with most of that. But I like Reynold’s game more than you do, it appears.

    Yes, he’s inconsistent, and that’s a problem. But, to me, he’s flashed real skilz at times, especially running after the catch. While he doesn’t always show this, he can run with a kind of violence that the other receivers lack. And he has height, which all but Kupp lack. To me, he’s a solid #3, and an excellent #4.

    Cooks? We’ve discussed this before, and I think you and I are basically on the same page here. Though I may see him as more problematic on contested passes than you do. To me, he’s actually a liability in those situations. He almost never comes down with those passes, and this opens up more potential for interceptions, etc.

    He does a lot of other things really, really well, and obviously has speed to burn. I just wish he could high point the football and come down with it. That would turn him into one of the best deep threats in the league. As it stands, he’s dangerous on deep routes, but only if he’s actually “open.”

    IMO, the Rams should be looking for receivers who excel at those jump balls. They can be found even later in the draft, or in FA, without breaking the bank. They can’t be, of course, if they combine that skill set with others, pushing them into the #1 receiver type, etc.

    in reply to: Laker World #98080
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I can see how it would be annoying to fans of other teams. All of this attention. But most of it is negative attention these days. The media turned fairly quickly on LeBron, for instance, it seems. Lots of talk about how no one wants to join the Lakers because he’s there. Same thing was said about Kobe. And they haven’t even made the playoffs in years.

    I’ve followed them as a diehard fan since the days of West and Baylor, even before they got Wilt. It wasn’t always like this — the negative attention, etc. Ironically, I think they received less attention back in the day when they were actually a far better franchise. I really don’t like the way they’ve been run the last coupla of decades.

    For instance, I’d rather see them build a team for the long haul. I don’t like the strategy of finding aging superstars for a last hurrah. Prefer the idea of “home grown” development . . . of course, with key additions here and there. But without trades that mortgage the future. And the Lakers, especially during the Kobe era, did way too much of that. Traded away umpteen draft picks for a Steve Nash or some other “past his prime” vet.

    Not a fan of that.

    The Lakers may be unique in this regard, though: They likely have the least patient fan base in the NBA. They feel entitled to win now, and next year, and the year after. Me? As long as they’re working toward contending, I’m good.

    in reply to: What's the toughest throw for a QB to make? #98030
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Thanks, Sun/Camus.

    I second ZN. That was excellent. You basically spelled (it all) out, from the POV of the QB, as opposed to us chair-potatoes.

    ;>)

    I also liked that you said the wideout has a chance to make the QB look a lot better. Great receivers earn their paychecks when they do that. They do the same when they win contested passes, otherwise known as 50/50, etc. etc.

    (I was a lot better at catching passes facing the QB. Not the best in the world at catching bombs over my shoulder, in stride, etc.)

    I think Cooks struggles with the jump balls. IMO, he’s an excellent receiver otherwise, and has speed to burn plus a lot of guts. But he’s just not the guy who’s going to consistently come down with those jump balls. I want the Rams to find one of those . . . You know. Seven feet two inches, size 15 hands, 350 pounds, with a 55 inch vert and 4.1 speed in the forty.

    Shouldn’t be too tough to find, right?

    in reply to: Abolish Billionaires #97961
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I’d like to see people also discussing the merits of billionaires making tens of thousands of times more than their rank and file overseas, and hundreds or thousands more than their rank and file here.

    How did they “earn” this? Can one human being possibly do the work of so many people? No. Perhaps two or three others? Yes. But not consistently over time. They’d burnout.

    Not to mention all the people who contributed to that moment over time, going back even centuries if it’s tech, or medicine, or engineering, etc. etc. Not to mention the millions of people who contributed tax dollars for public infrastructure, without which no business owner could ever bring his or her goods to market. Public currency, courts, R and D, trade agreements, police, fire and rescue, military power to keep the shipping lanes free, and literally trillions of dollars in bailouts worldwide just since 1970 . . . .

    So with all of these generations involved, and all of these humans involved, directly and indirectly, has there ever been any “merit” in one human, or a group of executives, taking for themselves the lion’s share?

    Um, no. Billionaires shouldn’t exist, ever, but not just because of their effects once they have all of that money. They shouldn’t be allowed in the first place because no human being can possibly ever “earn” all of that loot on their own. It can only be gathered via theft. Actual theft.

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