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Billy_TParticipantZN,
Thanks. I already knew I could just copy and paste and that would work somewhat. Was hoping, however, to use code to shrink it down to fit the space given, and maintain the (original) height/width ratio.
On my own site, I can do that — because I’m, well, god there. In the universal settings, and in individual posts. It’s difficult being a mere mortal sometimes.
;>)
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Billy_TParticipantPA,
I’m looking forward to it. I think it hits HBO in October.
Here’s another one about the future, robots, genetic manipulation and such. Very good film.
Billy_TParticipantMany people assume humanity is the necessary end-product of evolution. The idea that evolution is directed towards something, instead of being the result of natural selection acting on randomly occurring mutations.
As Stephen Jay Gould once said, if you could rewind life’s tape to a time before humans and then press play, the likelihood that humans would evolve for a second time is incredibly low. We aren’t ‘meant’ to be here. Like every other species that has ever existed, we just got lucky.
Agreed with all the above.
We’re an accident, and we will be “surpassed” in time, or just wiped out, one way or another. I don’t see us having even a fraction of the “success” of the dinosaurs.
Science can teach us to be humble. Art can as well. It can, if we heed it. And while there are all kinds of counter-movements, a very strong pattern through history has been to puncture one mythic balloon after another, slowly but surely moving us away from viewing the earth as central to the universe, as its center, period, and humans as central to existence on earth. Lord and master over all he surveys, etc. etc.
We really need a huge dash of humility, especially given the tech we’ve created and its potential for destruction.
Billy_TParticipant(Note for our NSA monitors: that was just a joke. No one is proposing anything, just indulging dark humor.)
Laura Flanders Jeremy Scahill interview
Though it’s too short, good interview above. It’s all about the cell phones, apparently.
Billy_TParticipantThis part is pretty good, too:
“Asking why an archaic human isn’t evolving from gorillas today is like asking why the children of your cousins don’t look more like you,” said Matt Tocheri, an anthropology professor at Lakehead University and a researcher in the National Museum of Natural History’s Human Origins Program. “Those creatures have been on their own lineage for 10 million years. You can’t go back up that lineage and back down again.”
Billy_TParticipantAnd, why aren’t apes evolving into humans?
Pretty good article for lay persons (like me!!):
Dear Science: Why aren’t apes evolving into humans?
Dear Science: Why are there no hominins left on Earth? If evolution is ongoing and species are always changing and adapting, shouldn’t we see new human-like species evolving from apes, even if the old ones died out?
Here’s what science has to say:We hate to be the ones to break it to you, but you are an ape.
So were the Neanderthals, the Hobbits, Lucy the Australopithecus, the Taung child and Peking man. And while we’re at it, so are orangutans, gorillas, bonobos and chimpanzees. All of us evolved from a common ancestor that lived about 14 million years ago, and together we make up the taxonomic family Hominidae. Also known as hominids. Also known as great apes.
Billy_TParticipantZN,
I get the Supreme Court part. The next president likely names three or more, plus umpteen lower-court justices. And for all of Trump’s populist rhetoric, I don’t see him ever naming a single “labor-friendly” judge. Though, frankly, I don’t see Clinton doing that, either. But it may happen accidentally, as a kind of side-effect to naming “pro-choice” judges. As in, it might come along as part of the package, but it won’t be something she seeks out. Same goes for the environment, the surveillance state, incarceration, drugs and so on. We may get lucky due to an emphasis on other issues.
Billy_TParticipantLong story short: Wonder if they should have named the spider, Kankuamo García Márquezi.
Not possible to have three names. That would be against ICZN (International Commission of Zoological Nomenclature) rules. Three names can only be used for subspecies.
They could’ve named it Kankuamo garciamaquezi though.
Thanks, Nittany.
I am really bad when it comes to science rules and protocol.
Billy_TParticipantFrom Wiki:
Apposition is a grammatical construction in which two elements, normally noun phrases, are placed side by side, with one element serving to identify the other in a different way. The two elements are said to be in apposition. One of the elements is called the appositive, although its identification requires consideration of how the elements are used in a sentence.[citation needed]
For example, in the two sentences below, the phrases Alice Smith and my sister are in apposition, with the appositive identified with italics:
My sister, Alice Smith, likes jelly beans.
Alice Smith, my sister, likes jelly beans.Traditionally, appositions were called by their Latin name appositio, although the English form is now more commonly used. It is derived from Latin: ad (“near”) and positio (“placement”).
Billy_TParticipantTrump? Pick a day. Pick a moment. He has no real plan beyond looking for opportunities to enrich himself. I think he’ll like trade deals just fine as long as they work for him. I don’t believe a populist word that comes out of his mouth. I think he’ll just give the Republicans what they want on some things(Supreme Court Justices) and on others he’ll be at odds with them but I have no idea. Who is Trump? What is he? What does he want? All I can do is look at his con-man history and think that we won’t know until he does it. Will it be reckless? Sure. He isn’t a deep thinker about such things. Who knows what he’ll do or which direction he’ll go?
Trump, unlike Clinton, has an actual paper trail as far as owning companies with large numbers of employees. He has no history of treating them well, of caring about labor or Labor, of worrying about outsourcing jobs. He, in fact, has always outsourced most of his manufacturing jobs overseas. So all of that populist rhetoric he now expresses just isn’t backed up by his own business practices.
Clinton has a different kind of paper trail. She has signed on to terrible trade deals and will likely do so again. She also followed American tradition by using the State Department to help destroy “the Commons” in other countries, especially in Central and South America. Though she did not start this practice, she didn’t end it or fight against it or even talk about it. She followed precedent and used the hammer of American government to smash public ownership of goods and services to the degree possible.
To me, this should be illegal and the people who do it should be held legally responsible. But that’s not how things are done in America right now.
Bottom line for me: The two major-party candidates may be the most odious we’ve seen in decades. I’m beginning to think it’s not even a matter of “lesser of two evils” this time. Just different modes of evil.
Billy_TParticipantInteresting.
Some more of my (annoying) book snobbery: I worked in book stores at various times in my younger adulthood (into the 1990s), and in one store was given pretty much total control over a section I called the Avant Garde. They did that because they recognized my brilliance in matters literary.
;>)
I got really territorial about it. Didn’t necessarily stick with the usual time frame for that designation, though, putting books in there by authors from a fairly broad range of chronological time (and place), including Garcia Marquez. If co-workers tried to help out and put Garcia Marquez under M, I’d move it to G, cuz, well, technically, Spanish authors with those two surnames (paternal and maternal) are alphabetized by the paternal surname.
Stuffy, yeah. I know. But I think it’s right to go by the culture in question, as much as possible. Though, I make mistakes sometimes with other cultures, like Chinese or Japanese names, which typically should go surname and then personal name, with these often being reversed.
Long story short: Wonder if they should have named the spider, Kankuamo García Márquezi.
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Billy_TParticipantWV,
As always, good, sensible words from you. Hope all is well.
Billy_TParticipantI like something in the garden that “takes care of” the pests, and/or trespassers.
I can understand that. Instead of “get off my lawn!!” It’s, “Hey, duya wanna see my garden?” Bwahahahaha!!
Billy_TParticipantBoiled down, if capitalists could get rich with robots doing everything, they would. If they could make their fortune without hiring a single worker, they would. We know this, because they’ve been pushing automation for more than a century, and it has, indeed led to massive job losses — here and around the world. And every day, we see the ravages of capitalism, as they do more and more via computers, and we deal with fewer and fewer actual humans. Call centers, ATMs, self-serve grocery stores, etc. etc.
The trend points to this: Companies which once had thousands, now have hundreds, or they go out of business entirely. Internet companies pop up and offer services with a staff of 25 which once were handled by companies with thousands. The math tells us this won’t end well. And it’s all quite “natural” to the economic system in place. It’s what it was designed to do.
Billy_TParticipantIs it okay to say bad stuff about that huge plant in the middle? I mean, it really, really needs to see a dentist. And I bet it needs a ton of mouthwash. Costco always has that on sale. You know, the family size pack with a hundred bottles the size of a keg?
Costco aka China OverSeas Trade COmpany
So much for sourcing the local economy.
bnw,
It was a joke, okay? Beyond that, I’m in favor of getting rid the system that destroys jobs as a matter of logic: capitalism. The internal logic of capitalism seeks job destruction, naturally, eternally, because it always seeks new ways to maximize profits. And that means reducing costs to the degree possible. And that means labor costs, primarily. And that means slashing wages, automating jobs out of existence, shipping them to cheaper and cheaper locations, and forever seeking to get more production out of fewer and fewer workers.
It’s baked in.
I want us to go back to the future and change all of that. I want us to exterminate the profit motive, which always kills jobs and drives down wages, and take away all incentives to slash wages, jobs and outsourcing. All of them. Wipe out these incentives by banishing the capitalist system altogether. And we replace it from the ground up, and change the funding stream from sales to publicly held banks instead . . . so we no longer have to be dependent upon the good will of a few capitalists, whose every incentive is to NOT pay us and to kill our jobs. We all become co-owners.
No employees. No employers. No bosses. No slaves. We self-govern, at work and in the community. We work together, cooperatively. Not competitively. Competition, which is baked into the capitalist system, invariably leads to massive loss of jobs, obscenely suppressed wages and “innovation” in the service of all of that.
Yes, this is about jobs. And the capitalist system was designed to kill them to the degree possible.
Billy_TParticipantIs it okay to say bad stuff about that huge plant in the middle? I mean, it really, really needs to see a dentist. And I bet it needs a ton of mouthwash. Costco always has that on sale. You know, the family size pack with a hundred bottles the size of a keg? That would probably do it. And those little guys look like they need some work, too. Like they’re all just bad breath wannabes. I think the entire garden needs an intervention.
Billy_TParticipantIf we timed out everyone who crossed the line, I would have to time myself out sometimes, which I think would be a physics paradox.
;>)
I think you could sell the rights for that to JJ Abrams. It could be, like, well, a sequel of sorts to, “Fringe” and “Lost,” about how a bulletin board moderator destroyed the space-time continuum by banning himself, and how the rest of us had to devote our lives to hunting down the moderator, finally discovering him on this island in the middle of Boston. And, it’s only real during dream-time, and when you wake up from the dream, you’re back in fantasy land, and you watch Vinatieri kick that winning field goal, which we all really know never happened.

Billy_TParticipantI hear ya, WV, about his being alone.
I’ve been there, done that, too.
Just saying, I don’t like being called a liar. And I think it’s important to say so. Prior to that, I was trying to go the ignore route. It didn’t work so well.
And, ZN,
I understand what you’re saying as well, and will adhere to board policies. I also would understand if you thought my comments were over the line — Maginot or otherwise — and deserved a board time out. I wouldn’t argue against that, and it’s perhaps even “deserved,” given their content.
You guys decide, and I’ll abide. Btw, whatever happened to the poster with “the Dude” as his avatar?
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Billy_TParticipantIt is inbounds. His post wasn’t about proof. It was about baiting. Neverland is kid glove by comparison.
I missed this the first go round.
bnw, let’s clear the air. You and I don’t agree on political stuff. Our views clash. And that’s okay. That’s fine. It’s even fine if you hate my views or even me. That doesn’t bother me in the slightest. However, what I won’t tolerate is someone calling me a liar. Which you pretty much have from the start, though you used “nicer” language, like “insincerity” and now, “baiting.”
I don’t lie, bnw. When I say Obama has governed as a real conservative, that he’s governed from the center-right, I absolutely mean that. I am 100% speaking the truth as I see it — and I supplied all kinds of evidence to back that up. When I say what I say about Trump? It’s not to bait anyone. I actually feel that way about him. It’s my sincerest take on the issue. In fact, I was trying to suppress the anger he provokes in me, but was only partially successful.
As for “proof.” Please. You have never supplied any of that here, but you demand it in others. You make assertions and don’t back them up. Ever. And if someone counters that, you make it personal and call them a liar.
Again, let’s clear the air. If you don’t believe I’m telling the truth here, ignore me. Just ignore me. Or keep your suspicions to yourself. But if this were my site — it’s not, of course — next time you called someone a liar, you’d be banned.
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Billy_TParticipantAs mentioned before, I think some people just don’t read the context, skip four out of five words, or something, when they see the word “racist” in a sentence. Instead of seeing all of the modifiers and the names and the qualifiers, they just jump the shark and assume the accusation is aimed their way.
Perhaps no other word online provokes tunnel vision like the word “racism.” People lose their minds when it’s brought up. They really need to take a deep breath, reread, and stop assuming things. And they should also know what it looks like to others when they do react for no good reason. When no one is talking about them. It looks like they have a guilty conscience, and that’s likely not the look they were going for.
Billy_TParticipantZN,
In my view, there is a huge difference between expressing opinions about public figures, and insulting posters here. I did the former. Bnw keeps doing the latter.
One way to “keep it in bounds,” at least as I see it, is to always note the difference. Remember the difference. Remember that when someone refers directly to a politician, it’s about that politician. And if that politician is called a racist, that isn’t directed at his or her fans. If supporters at various events act in racist ways, and are called on it, that still isn’t an attack on posters here.
Again, it’s like someone being critical of Kobe online, and then posters in that thread go crazy and get personal with the critic. The comment wasn’t about them.
Billy_TParticipantI find the entire “Trump as victim” meme beyond offensive. In reality, his rallies weren’t disrupted, until Chicago, and that was outside or well before the event, which Trump ended up cancelling. They were never “disrupted” by protesters inside while he was there. Trump and his little fascist wannabes did the disrupting.
What invariably occurred was this:
Young, lone black woman or man, enters the arena with sign or T-Shirt. Tries to express their anger at Trump’s overt racist pleas. They have no amplification, and can not possibly derail a Trump (performance art) speech, unless he lets them. He has the mic. He can easily ignore them and keep talking. But he doesn’t. He hears the Beer-Hall-Putsch shouts around the lone protester, smells the blood in the water like a shark, and then plays Il Duce, or Al Capone, demanding they be thrown out. Early on, he okayed the violence that was inflicted on these lone protesters, who were often beaten. He praised it and said he would pay the doctors’ bills. After being exposed, he tried to tone down his glee, at least in front of the cameras.
There is no “disruption” of the event if his USA! USA! USA! Trump! Trump! Trump!!! brown shirts just leave the lone protester alone. There is no “disruption” if Trump ignores them and goes on with his word salad. There is no “disruption” if Trump doesn’t egg on his white supremacist fanboys in the audience.
And ya know somethin’ else? Those lone protesters are damn brave, because they know they are likely to be attacked, but they still show up.
Trump is a bully, and a fraud, and a racist piece of garbage. The truly horrible thing about this race is that Clinton isn’t the antidote to any of that. The Dems picked the wrong year — not that there is ever a good year for this — to run an Establishment drone, with all kinds of skeletons in her closet.
Billy_TParticipantSorry to see she hasn’t got on Virginia’s yet. She was in 2012, and I pulled the lever for her then.
Hope that changes. I can’t vote for either the Dem or the Republican. So it’s a no vote for me if she isn’t available.
Billy_TParticipantIt is incredibly depressing. Clinton or Trump.
You guys may well be right that Trump won’t be quite as bad. But I just don’t trust him to be not as bad. I think he’s going to be every bit under pressure from the neocons as Clinton, and his own rabid fans endlessly say “America needs to get tough,” and all too many of their political rallies just smell like German Beer-hall putsches to me.
This election seems to be a choice between losing your arm or losing your leg.
Futile or not, I’m voting for Stein.
Billy_TParticipantThat’s very ugly.
State power is often used in radical, ugly and obscenely immoral ways. All too often. But siphoning off some of that state power and making it “secret”? Radically ugly, abusive, dangerous and oppressive to the nth degree. With next to no accountability or oversight. This is the case all around the world and throughout history. One would think we’d learn. But we haven’t.
We had the chance, after WWII especially, to be truly “exceptional.” We chose, instead, the way of Old Europe and Russia, empire and paranoia — world without end. We chose to ignore the peace dividend and doubled down on expanding the empire of capitalism. Imagine if we had used those trillions to remake our inner cities instead, our rural areas, towns, our health care, education, national parks, environment, etc. etc.
Billy_TParticipantC-M-C and use value: C for commodity. M for money. C for commodity. Use value meaning a product with a specific use, not dependent upon its ability to be bought or sold or resold.
M-C-M and exchange value: M for money. C for commodity. M for money. And exchange value. Commodities under capitalism are produced primarily for their exchange value, not their use value.
The capitalist purchases labor power, as a commodity, in order to produce commodities for money the capitalist appropriates. He or she takes what workers make for him or herself. Basically, theft. Workers have no control over the fruits of their own labor under capitalism. It’s legally not theirs, from the get go, which is also unique to capitalism. Under capitalism, for the first time, actual, direct producers (workers) don’t own their own work. They did under feudalism, even though they had to give the local lord a cut of the action. They still received the vast majority of the fruits of their own labor, and their production was not, by rights, the local lord’s from the get go.
Capitalism basically gives the local lord — now the capitalist — far greater rights than he previously had. All of the work, every last bit of it, is the capitalist’s, even though very few capitalists do the actual production themselves. It’s extremely rare that they’re involved in direct production, and it’s impossible for them to ever, ever do as much as their workforce.
And, remember. A single proprietor is not a capitalist, 99% of the time. A self-employed person is not a capitalist, 99% of the time. Lone wolf hedge fund managers, yeah. They do the M-C-M thing by basically bypassing the purchase of labor power, though they take advantage, of course, of all the labor power making the financial system go. So, indirectly, they, too, purchase it. But they’re primarily capitalists because they do M for M and perpetually in the exchange value mode, and their “job” is to keep the capitalist system as is, concentrating wealth, power, privilege and access at the very top. They don’t do C-M-C and use value.
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Billy_TParticipantW,
One of the key things that makes capitalism unprecedented. It must Grow or Die. It must subsume previously local and independent markets, and unify them. It must keep doing this to expand its “market share,” and individual capitalists within the system must do the same. It engulfs former ways of doing things. It is the first imperialistic economic system in history, where “globalization” isn’t just a matter of seeking new trade partners in far off lands . . . but a matter of survival.
Prior to capitalism, and this includes in America, we had local, autonomous, independent “markets,” peopled by small farmers, craftspersons, artisans and the like — including the little girl selling her lemonade. None of this was “capitalism.” Capitalism changes that in several ways, but the two key ways of doing this were:
1. Changing C-M-C and use-value commerce to M-C-M and exchange-value commerce.
2. Unifying previously independent and autonomous markets, by force if necessary. And by changing the political structure. And by overwhelming them with mass production and other “competitive” advantages.
The second one is pretty self-explanatory. I’ll come back later and elaborate on the first.
Billy_TParticipantAlso, W,
No one would go to the gallows. They’d just have a brand new way of doing things, and they’d see the results of this new way as generating a far, far better life for everyone, except for former millionaires and billionaires. They, too, would have a very good life in the new system. They just wouldn’t be able to live like sultans any longer.
Everyone would have access to the highest quality free education, medical care, transportation, cultural venues, parks and rec and so on. The “commons” would be vast and there for everyone. The amount of innovation, artistic and intellectual endeavors would explode off the charts, because everyone would get their chance to express their fullest potential as human beings. Again, no one would be denied access due to lack of money. Money no longer woujld be the key to entrance. They would have, as a birthright, free access to all the basics.
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