WRs & TEs in the draft thread, combine & after

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Previous WRs in the draft thread is here:

2016 draft, receivers & TEs: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/2016-draft-receivers/

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639554/article/day-2-nfl-combine-winners-and-losers

Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss: Treadwell made a strong case for the top spot at the position with a stellar performance on the turf. Although he didn’t run a 40, he impressed scouts with his spectacular ball skills and strong hands. Treadwell snags the ball effortlessly with his 9 7/8-inch hands, exhibiting exceptional hand-eye coordination and tracking ability. He easily adjusted to balls thrown slightly off the mark, particularly deep throws along the boundary, which is a critical part of expanding the strike zone for the quarterback. With Treadwell also showing outstanding footwork, balance, and body control as a precise route-runner, he’s a polished WR1 capable of making an impact from Day 1 in the NFL.

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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132057/laquon-treadwell

NFL Media analyst Bucky Brooks compares Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell to Alshon Jeffery.

“As a big-bodied playmaker with superior length and strength, the Ole Miss product is an outstanding pass catcher in traffic,” Brooks wrote. “He routinely snatches the ball away from defenders, exhibiting rare hand strength and concentration. Treadwell is a polished route runner with a nice feel for finding the soft spots in coverage.” He tosses out a spate of teams that are going to sniff around, including the Rams, Lions, Vikings, 49ers and Bengals. Whoever gets him won’t be nabbing a speed merchant. Treadwell won’t run the 40-yard dash at the Combine. NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein and CBS Sports’ Dane Brugler both compare Treadwell to DeAndre Hopkins. Pro Football Focus’ Sam Monson sees it much different, writing that Treadwell “reminds some of Dez Bryant or Michael Irvin, but to me he looks far more like Kenny Britt” and should be viewed as late Rd. 1 prospect.

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Treadwell leads 2016 NFL Draft’s safest picks among WRs

By Chad Reuter

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639334/article/treadwell-leads-2016-nfl-drafts-safest-picks-among-wrs

With the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine in full swing, I’ll be unveiling my picks for the safest prospects at each position.

Receivers that I consider low-risk selections are not necessarily speed demons, but they can run effective routes, and are tough (and/or crafty) enough to separate themselves downfield without a great 40-yard dash time. And, of course, they need to have reliable hands to make plays with or without a defender nearby. The biggest and/or fastest receiver on the team is not going to help if he can’t bring in the tough catch.

These three wideouts are my safe bets in the 2016 draft class. As with every position group in this series, there is a mix of top-rated prospects and others for whom I project a long NFL career without the early-round hype.

1. Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss: It’s the time of year where the best players get ripped apart for this or that. I’m not guaranteeing Treadwell will be a superstar receiver in the Julio Jones/Calvin Johnson class, but he’s the best bet you have in this draft of finding a physical pass-catcher who will challenge the strength of even the best cornerbacks in the league on third downs and in the red zone. And when he lines up a smaller cornerback as a blocking target, that guy had better watch out.

Potential landing spots: San Francisco 49ers, Los Angeles Rams, Detroit Lions

2. Rashard Higgins, Colorado State: He’s a natural hands-catcher with excellent foot quickness and route-running ability who can exploit defenses inside and outside. Like Treadwell, Higgins’ 40 time is immaterial, as his new quarterback will immediately trust him to be in the right place at the right time — and catch whatever is thrown his way. Even if he proves to be “quicker than fast,” he will make plays.

Potential landing spots: Los Angeles Rams, Atlanta Falcons, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots

3. Corey Coleman, Baylor: Yes, he plays in a spread offense with a limited route tree. But Coleman is perfectly capable of running all of the routes. I trust his ability to transition to Sundays, using his explosive cutting ability and acceleration to become both a safety valve and a big-time playmaker at the next level. If guys like Brandin Cooks, Emmanuel Sanders, and T.Y. Hilton can be among the leading receivers in the league, Coleman should fare just fine.

Potential landing spots: Cincinnati Bengals, Dallas Cowboys, San Diego Chargers, Los Angeles Rams

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from off the net

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Kind of Blue/Gold

Laquon Treadwell

Highlights

Scouting Profile

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/laquon-treadwell?id=2555214

Comps? Zierlein cites DeAndre Hopkins, which would be great. His size would certainly make him an appealing complement to mighty mite smurf Austin.

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josh doctson killed the combine.

6’2″ 200 lbs 4.5 40 4.08 ss 6.9 3 cone 41″ vert 10’11” broad 9 7/8″ hands.

also killed the wr drills.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/tcuhornedfrogs/2016/02/27/tcus-josh-doctson-puts-body-control-display-nfl-combine-turning-heads-wide-receiver-drills

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InvaderRam wrote:

josh doctson killed the combine.

6’2″ 200 lbs 4.5 40 4.08 ss 6.9 3 cone 41″ vert 10’11” broad 9 7/8″ hands.

also killed the wr drills.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/tcuhornedfrogs/2016/02/27/tcus-josh-doctson-puts-body-control-display-nfl-combine-turning-heads-wide-receiver-drills

We 👀 you, Josh Doctson. #NFLCombine https://t.co/7DrlPu4UgL

— NFL (@NFL) February 27, 2016

.@JDoc_son (@TCUFootball) toe-drag swag from @chackenberg1 (@PennStateFball)! #NFLCombine https://t.co/u7RLBDJ74P

— NFL (@NFL) February 27, 2016

Josh Doctson just dominated the Gauntlet. #NFLCombine pic.twitter.com/HTkBRnAx32

— Jamie Plunkett (@TheDSportsRant) February 27, 2016

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Note: this one’s in 2 threads, here and the qb thread. I just repeated the WR part here for the sake of access. Duplication ain’t an issue. Hope no one minds.

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Joe Marino’s Scouting Combine Notes: Quarterbacks, Wide Receivers and Tight Ends

Written by Joe Marino on February 27, 2016

link: http://draftbreakdown.com/joe-marinos-scouting-combine-notes-quarterbacks-wide-receivers-and-tight-ends/

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Wide Receivers

Pitt’s Tyler Boyd and TCU’s Josh Doctson displayed the most natural, soft hands of any receivers today. These docston insideguys can catch footballs in their sleep. Both have exceptional body control.
Not far behind Boyd and Doctston is Cal’s Kenny Lawler and Colorado State’s Rashard Higgins. They are effortless hands catchers and the ball sticks to their hands.
Notre Dame’s Will Fuller came into today’s drills with numerous drops in games and small hands. With that said, he had a clean day catching the football. That was important for him to show.
UMass WR Tajae Sharpe showed his ability to adjust to the football and had a strong day catching the football. He was locked in and performed well.
Oklahoma WR Sterling Shepard was as good as his tape advertised. After turning in excellent test results, he showed good route-running skills, burst and hands.
Clemson’s Charone Peake and UCLA’s Jordan Payton both had better timed speed than I anticipated. In a class of “slower” receivers, this will boost their stock.
Cincinnati WR Chris Moore tested extremely well today and showed good ball skills. Never waiting for the ball to come to him, he showed the ability to “got get it”.
I had a mild liking for Mississippi State WR Da’Runnya Wilson but his performance was dreadful today. His tests across-the-board were poor and he looked clunky running around. Not ideal for a NFL receiver in any way.

Tight Ends

South Carolina TE Jerell Adams was the fastest tight end today and displayed a massive catch radius.
Ohio State’s Nick Vannett was the most natural hands catcher in the group. He was clean in the gauntlet drill and the ball was securely squeezed away from his body. He ran excellent routes with good change of direction skills and timing.
Montana State’s Beau Sandland struggled catching the football today. The ball was on top of him quickly and he was unable to adjust and secure the ball in the gauntlet. He had several drops.
Stanford’s Austin Hooper who is an intriguing move-piece, ran good routes and confirmed his play speed.

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Ohio State’s Nick Vannett was the most natural hands catcher in the group. He was clean in the gauntlet drill and the ball was securely squeezed away from his body. He ran excellent routes with good change of direction skills and timing..

NICK VANNETT, TE
SCHOOL: OHIO STATE
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE: SENIOR
HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6-6 / 257 LBS

PLAYER OVERVIEW

Vannett is a former four-star recruit from Westerville (Ohio) and signed with Ohio State over Michigan, Notre Dame, Oregon, Stanford and Tennessee in the Class of 2011.
He redshirted in 2011. Over the next three seasons, Vannett played in 40 games, starting three times. He caught 36 passes for 423 yards and scored six touchdowns during that stretch and hauled in a touchdown against Oregon in the 2014 national title game.

Vannett started every game in 2015 and said he set out to improve his blocking. He caught 19 passes for 162 yards, but failed to find the end zone.

STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS: Good all-around prospect who essentially got lost amongst all the talent that Urban Myer collected in Columbus. You can line him up in-line, in the slot or make him an H-back.
Good run blocker, whether in space or in tight quarters. Has good feet and plays with leverage. While he’s not overwhelming at the point of attack, he can stay in front of defenders and be very effective in blocking for his teammates.

Can be an asset in the passing game. Runs well and can create separation, and has displayed strong hands and focus to finish contested catches.

WEAKNESSNESS: Not used all that much in the Ohio State passing game, so you really see a limited version of what he can do as a receiver. It may take him some time to acclimate to an NFL offense and the intricacies of the playbook.

No much shake at the top of routes to create separation.

IN OUR VIEW: Vannett showed he can be an every-down viable tight end where you can virtually line him up anywhere to help out an offense. He certainly is more than solid in the run game and helping to open up some holes. When given opportunities, Vannett caught the ball well.

While this isn’t a deep tight end draft class, Vannett could separate himself as the top senior prospect at the position and worthy mid-round pick.

–Jamie Newberg and Dane Brugler (1/27/16)

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Ohio State’s Nick Vannett was the most natural hands catcher in the group. He was clean in the gauntlet drill and the ball was securely squeezed away from his body. He ran excellent routes with good change of direction skills and timing.

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NICK VANNETT, TE
SCHOOL: OHIO STATE
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE: SENIOR
HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6-6 / 257 LBS

PLAYER OVERVIEW

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Senior Bowl Practice Report: Day 3

Myles Simmons

http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Senior-Bowl-Practice-Report-Day-3/f0356011-e67e-49fb-b71a-5362e6db756a

MOBILE, Ala. — Players looking to make an impact at the Senior Bowl can sometimes be favored or hindered depending on the type of drill the coaches assign. In the North team practice Thursday morning, the Cowboys coaching staff had the team go through a long red zone 7-on-7 period. The favored player? Ohio State tight end Nick Vannett.

He made reception after reception in the period, clearly a favored target for all four North team quarterbacks. At one point, he made four touchdown catches in four snaps during the drill. He showed athleticism, an ability to get open, and a penchant for making tough catches in tight windows.

“I feel like I’ve always been a red-zone threat — just throw it up, I’ll go get it,” Vannett said after practice. “I’ll make a play.”

The former Buckeye won a National Championship last year, but received limited opportunities to make an impact in the passing game in college. Vannett made only 55 receptions for 585 yards in his collegiate career. But one of those receptions came in last year’s title game, as the tight end caught a touchdown late in the first quarter to give Ohio State its first lead of the game.

“I didn’t get many of those opportunities at Ohio State and I just wanted to show everything that I’m good at — show the real Nick Vannett,” he said. “And I think I put that on display this whole week.”

It’s apparent from his stats, but Vannett was primarily a blocking tight end at Ohio State. His experience has shown on the field this week, as he’s been able to take on defensive linemen with success in the run game.

“I did a lot of that at Ohio State so I kind of grew to like it,” Vannett said. “I get a great feeling just knowing that I made a key block and sprung the run on that play. I get just as good a feeling from doing that than I do making plays in the pass game. So I enjoy doing both and I feel like that’s going to add more value to me, being able to do those things.”

Even though he wasn’t known as a pass catcher, Vannett was still a significant piece of Ohio State’s College Football Playoff victories last year. And that’s an experience Vannett said is almost hard to describe, in part because of everything the team had to overcome.

“People didn’t think we were going to get that far after Braxton Miller going down, the loss to Virginia Tech early in the season,” Vannett said. “Everybody was kind of looking forward to next year — they kind of forgot about that year. And we stuck together, grinded it out, and came out on top. Getting to share that with all those guys in the locker room, it was incredible feeling.”

It’s well known how head coach Urban Meyer has recruited and developed talent since his arrival at Ohio State, which is reflected from the team’s four players in Mobile this week.

“It just shows the type of players that we have,” Vannett said. “We have ball players at Ohio State and we were well represented out here. I think we all did really well this whole week. And it’s just awesome to kind of put it on for back home.”

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Even though TEs are poor compared to the rest of the draft, there are still some players that you would like to have on your team. imo

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Agamemnon wrote:

Even though TEs are poor compared to the rest of the draft, there are still some players that you would like to have on your team. imo

Vannett sounds great. It’s like a Fisher dream come true. A TE who blocked his entire college career, and then turns out, he can catch…and play all over the formation.

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[InvaderRam]

weakest offensive draft in years. i think the rams might be better off drafting a qb for the future and then just focusing on restocking the defense. maybe have the qb sit for a year and see what next year looks like in terms of drafting receivers.

there’s always free agency too.

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Devon Cajuste WR Stanford. Potential late round – UFA TE\HB.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1851138/devon-cajuste

Player Overview
Cajuste signed with Stanford as a highly regarded tight end prospect but emerged as one of Stanford’s most reliable wide receivers since, setting career highs in 2014 with 34 catches (for 557 yards) and six touchdowns and following that up with 27 grabs for 383 yards and three more scores as a senior – second (to fellow senior Michael Rector) among Cardinal wideouts.

While Cajuste lacks the eye-popping numbers of other receivers across the country, it is important to keep in mind that Stanford’s offense was built around Heisman Trophy finalist running back Christian McCaffrey, who besides rushing for 2,019 yards also led the Cardinal in both receptions (45) and receiving yards (645) in 2015.

Cajuste’s combination of size and athleticism makes him a potential mismatch in the NFL.

Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Cajuste creates separation with firm breaks on his routes and uses his height, body control and hand-eye coordination to win contested passes. Cajuste has the strength and length to control defensive backs as a blocker when he locks. He possesses very reliable hands, tracking the ball well over his shoulder and showing excellent timing and hand-eye coordination to win contested passes.

WEAKNESSES: Cajuste has some ‘tweener traits that could limit his draft stock. He has been reported to have impressive speed but shows only average burst off the line and does not appear to have a legitimate second gear to pull away. His lack of speed and agility (relative to defensive backs) too often leave him scrambling to find them.

IN OUR VIEW: Cajuste does not possess the power at this time to hold up as a traditional inline blocker and may, in fact, project best as an H-back type. His greatest asset may be his strong, reliable hands.

–Rob Rang (@robrang) (2/21/16)

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/devon-cajuste?id=2555276

Player Overview
Cajuste signed with Stanford as a highly regarded tight end prospect but emerged as one of Stanford’s most reliable wide receivers since, setting career highs in 2014 with 34 catches (for 557 yards) and six touchdowns and following that up with 27 grabs for 383 yards and three more scores as a senior – second (to fellow senior Michael Rector) among Cardinal wideouts.

While Cajuste lacks the eye-popping numbers of other receivers across the country, it is important to keep in mind that Stanford’s offense was built around Heisman Trophy finalist running back Christian McCaffrey, who besides rushing for 2,019 yards also led the Cardinal in both receptions (45) and receiving yards (645) in 2015.

Cajuste’s combination of size and athleticism makes him a potential mismatch in the NFL.

Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Cajuste creates separation with firm breaks on his routes and uses his height, body control and hand-eye coordination to win contested passes. Cajuste has the strength and length to control defensive backs as a blocker when he locks. He possesses very reliable hands, tracking the ball well over his shoulder and showing excellent timing and hand-eye coordination to win contested passes.

WEAKNESSES: Cajuste has some ‘tweener traits that could limit his draft stock. He has been reported to have impressive speed but shows only average burst off the line and does not appear to have a legitimate second gear to pull away. His lack of speed and agility (relative to defensive backs) too often leave him scrambling to find them.

IN OUR VIEW: Cajuste does not possess the power at this time to hold up as a traditional inline blocker and may, in fact, project best as an H-back type. His greatest asset may be his strong, reliable hands.

–Rob Rang (@robrang) (2/21/16)

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Rams seek upgrades at wideout, a position of trouble dating back to Torry Holt’s departure

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-708240-season-receiver.html

To truly understand how dire the Rams receiver shortage has become, consider this: In his final season in St. Louis in 2008, past-his-prime wideout Torry Holt grinded his way to a pedestrian 64-catch, 796-yard season.

It was a forgettable year for the seven-time Pro Bowler and potential Hall of Famer – his first sub-1,000-yard campaign since his rookie season.

That was 2008. Here’s the sad reality: Since Holt’s final season in St. Louis, no Rams receiver has managed to eclipse even 750 receiving yards.

In a golden era for passing offenses, that’s some truly remarkable futility. Last season, 47 NFL players eclipsed 750 receiving yards. Eight were tight ends. One was a running back. In all, 30 of 32 NFL teams had a player who surpassed the 750-yard mark. The Vikings were the only other team without one, but in their case, you only have to go back to 2013 to find that baseline of receiver production.

For the Rams, it has been seven long years of receiver-less drought, marked by failed draft picks and unfulfilled potential. And this season, as the franchise looks to reinvigorate its NFL-worst passing game on the West Coast, the team desperately needs to invest in playmakers for whomever ends up starting at quarterback.

“It almost doesn’t matter what type of receiver they’d draft,” Pro Football Focus analyst Sam Monson said. “They don’t have anyone on the roster that’s going to prevent you from taking a specific type of receiver. They just need to add some quality young talent there in the draft.”

Not that recent drafts have treated the Rams all that well. From Holt’s final season on, the organization selected 11 receivers, hoping to find a viable playmaker. Most often, those investments came in the later rounds. Only one – Tavon Austin at eighth overall in 2013 – was drafted in the first round. Donnie Avery (second round in 2008), Brian Quick (second round in 2012) and Austin Pettis (third in 2011) are the only other wideouts drafted by the Rams in rounds two or three.

Avery, who was drafted before Jordy Nelson and DeSean Jackson, flamed out after two years in St. Louis. Pettis lasted three seasons. Quick re-upped with the Rams on a one-year deal for 2016, but he has just 935 yards over four seasons. And Austin, despite flashes of star potential, has yet to break out. Next season, he could cost the Rams upwards of $12 million, if they choose to pick up his fifth-year option and can’t negotiate a long-term deal.

The Rams still have hope in Austin, with Coach Jeff Fisher conceding recently that they “have to do more as a staff to get him the football.” But at 5-foot-9, Austin’s best suited as a secondary option in the slot. That leaves Kenny Britt as the de facto No. 1, and while he has led the group in receiving in each of his two years in St. Louis, the team clearly needs a true No. 1 talent at the position.

“I don’t want to give too many cards away,” General Manager Les Snead said, “but we do like some wide receivers in this draft.”

That could mean investing the 15th pick in a wideout and not a quarterback. In a class light on talent at the top, Mississippi receiver Laquon Treadwell is a first-round lock and has consistently been linked to the Rams. At 6-foot-2, he’s not a deep threat, but his athleticism and ball skills remind some of Dallas Cowboys wideout Dez Bryant.

“He’s so strong at the catch point,” CBS Sports draft analyst Dane Brugler said. “For a kid that doesn’t turn 21 until June, he’s so physically mature the way he plays the game. If he’s there at 15, it’s a no-brainer pick.”

Not everyone is in agreement on that evaluation. Monson suggested that Treadwell, at his best, could become a clone of Chicago Bears’ red-zone maven Alshon Jeffery. At worst, he offered a familiar comparison: Britt.

Beyond Treadwell, the pickings get far slimmer. There might be value in the second round, when the Rams have two selections. Baylor’s Corey Coleman and TCU’s Josh Doctson might not fall that far, but could be steals as the Rams’ second pick. Ohio State’s Michael Thomas and Braxton Miller and Notre Dame’s Will Fuller could also be options.

Regardless, the Rams desperately need to add talent any way they can. And in free agency, there isn’t much to go around.

The Detroit Lions paid $8 million per year for the top prize at wideout, Marvin Jones. The Atlanta Falcons, meanwhile, spent $7 million on his former teammate in Cincinnati, Mohamed Sanu. Neither has finished a season with more than 825 yards.

Thus is the free-spending nature of free agency, and it has burned the Rams in the past. They signed Jared Cook to a contract that made him the fourth-highest paid tight end in the NFL last season. He finished 21st in receiving yards at the position and didn’t score a touchdown. He was cut this offseason.

Free agent receiver Rueben Randle, who has played four seasons with the New York Giants, was scheduled to visit the Rams. He had 57 receptions for 797 yards and eight touchdowns last season.

The rest of the Rams’ receiver rebuild will come elsewhere – bit by bit.

And after seven long seasons of futility at wide receiver, there’s no time left to waste.

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Regardless, the Rams desperately need to add talent any way they can. And in free agency, there isn’t much to go around.

The Detroit Lions paid $8 million per year for the top prize at wideout, Marvin Jones. The Atlanta Falcons, meanwhile, spent $7 million on his former teammate in Cincinnati, Mohamed Sanu. Neither has finished a season with more than 825 yards.

Thus is the free-spending nature of free agency, and it has burned the Rams in the past. They signed Jared Cook to a contract that made him the fourth-highest paid tight end in the NFL last season. He finished 21st in receiving yards at the position and didn’t score a touchdown. He was cut this offseason.

Free agent receiver Rueben Randle, who has played four seasons with the New York Giants, was scheduled to visit the Rams. He had 57 receptions for 797 yards and eight touchdowns last season.

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This kind of writing is frustrating to me. It’s like a fantasy football column, a low effort use of numbers without context.

Jones and Sanu had very good seasons in Cincinnati last year. Tyler Eifert, AJ Green and even Gio Bernard are the main targets for Dalton; they are going to get the most targets unless the defense schemes to take them one of them out of the offense. Jones and Sanu were complimentary players in 2015 who did their jobs well but the writer seems to think that is their ceiling. They are both going to teams with productive veteran QBs. Jones could become the Lion’s #1 receiver and Sanu could replace Douglas as the Falcon’s #2 receiver. If they are asked to play a larger role in the offense, then expect more production.

Rueben Randle benefited from the absence of Victor Cruz and defenses that keyed on Odell Beckham, plus he was receiving passes from Eli Manning. If Randle signs here, I don’t expect similar numbers from him in 2016 with Keenum or Foles or Mannion at QB. It’s just not reasonable to expect him to repeat his 2015 numbers with our QBs and a run-first offense with Gurley.

The Tennessee version of Jared Cook turned out to be Tennessee version in St. Louis. Mediocre QB and sketchy offensive line could not elevate his game with the Rams.

With our QB situation and offensive line still developing, I don’t expect our offense to improve with the signing of any Tier II WRs in free agency. We drafted a lot of linemen last April, I hope they improve and I hope we draft a couple more next month. A good O-line can compensate somewhat for Keenum’s limitations but we need to get much better at QB before we make the playoffs.

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snowman wrote:

With our QB situation and offensive line still developing, I don’t expect our offense to improve with the signing of any Tier II WRs in free agency. We drafted a lot of linemen last April, I hope they improve and I hope we draft a couple more next month.

That’s a good post, which I enjoyed. I agree with most of it, but on a minor note, I don’t think they will be drafting any linemen. They actually added 12 since 2014…the 2 draft picks from 2014, the 4 draft picks from 2015, 1 UDFA (Williams), 1 supplemental draft pick, Reynolds, and then 3 “ronin” types (low budget FAs) of the kind Boudreau has made something of before. 12 is a lot. They could still add some more cuts and “ronin” style young vets. I bet they take 18 to camp, or thereabouts. Add Saffold and Barnes and they already have 14…all of whom have already been in the system to one extent or another. So unless some lineman they really prize falls in the draft (which of course is possible) I think they will generally hang tight.

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AFC scout worries on Treadwell’s speed

Laquon Treadwell – WR – MS – Mar. 20 – 7:55 pm et

An AFC Northeastern scout voiced concern that Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell is “going to get beat up because he’s slow.”
The scout added that while he’s uneasy about Treadwell’s speed, he “like everything else he does.” Perhaps offering a bit of self-criticism, the scout went on to note that “[y]ou would think scouts would learn about overestimating speed and underestimating tape. He’ll go in the first but not sure how high.” Most mock drafts slot the 6-foot-2, 221-pounder into the mid-to-late first round, with the Los Angeles Rams acting as an easy sort of marker to judge his stock. The Rams hold the 15th pick, which figures to be around where Treadwell’s taken off the board. In a more optimistic assessment, CBS Sports’ Jared Dubin had the Giants selecting Treadwell at No. 10. We would be somewhat surprised if he reaches that high. It’s not out of the question that either Baylor WR Corey Coleman or TCU WR Josh Doctson (or both) will be taken ahead of Treadwell. Mar. 20 – 7:55 pm et
Source: NFL.com

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=CFB&id=132057&line=54167&spln=1

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adXGkk03ZV8

Top 3 Wide Receivers in the 2016 NFL Draft | NFL Now

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from off the net

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Treadwell 4.63 40 at Pro Day.

I’m torn for a number of reasons … Looking at Doctson, Coleman, and Treadwell

1) I want a blocker, someone who can run a full route tree. (That’s Treadwell)

2) I want a size/height speed combo … (That’s Doctson)

3) I want a POA winner. (Treadwell AND Doctson)

4) I love speed and agility. (Coleman)

5) I love separation abilities. (Coleman and Doctson)

6) I love guys that we don’t have to coach up. (Treadwell)

Given that list I would rather draft Michael Thomas or Tyler Boyd in round two than not have my wants met by any one player.

That said I have really liked Treadwell’s attitude and would choose him of the three.

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Doctson isn’t dropping to the 2cd any more. He has the best hands. He makes it look too easy. 😉

If we don’t take a QB, then I favor Doctson.

Maybe we should get a QB later. 😉

• This reply was modified 8 years, 7 months ago by Agamemnon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1BcyZLtpyQ
A couple more WRs. This class is looking a bit better. And the TEs aren’t a desert like they might be perceived.

I want guys that will catch the ball. No more Jared Cook.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 7 months ago by Agamemnon.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/WR

Look at the weird page I found. It shows this years WRs rated with last years WRs. The list extends further than my screen cap.

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Agamemnon wrote:

Look at the weird page I found. It shows this years WRs rated with last years WRs.

If I read it right, according to this, then, WR is okay in 2016, it just lacks the A+ grade elite prospects. In every other way it compares.

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zn wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Look at the weird page I found. It shows this years WRs rated with last years WRs.

If I read it right, according to this, then, WR is okay in 2016, it just lacks the A+ grade elite prospects. In every other way it compares.

That is the way I read it.

Agamemnon

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i’m starting to come around on vannett. tight end might be a bigger need than receiver and i like his measurables. long arms big mitts. won’t jump out of the stadium but average athleticism.

versatile reading the reports.

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