Why does Fisher deserve an extension?

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October 13, 2016 at 2:48 am #55135

zn
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Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Nine starters went down this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1BCEEntbs

Yes but were they distributed all over the team, or, as I was pointing to, were they concentrated in a key unit? (I pointed to the qb/OL combo).

Some teams overcome injuries depending on their depth, which in turn depends on how veteran they are as a team. Plus of course it was easier to count on depth before free agency and the salary cap.

BUT I really wasn’t looking at that. I was looking at a particular situation–having to play mostly back-up qbs, and at the same time having continuing multiple and extensive injuries along the OL (ie. more than just 1 or 2 guys).

I can find teams that won in spite of numerous injuries, but then when injuries are heavily concentrated in a key unit, and it robs that unit of effectiveness, then, naturally you find it has an effect.

For example, in 2000, all 4 Rams linemen had off-season surgery. They then lost 2 on top of it during the season, plus Carter played while still not the same from back surgery. Injuries basically hurt the DL. While it wasn’t the only factor, that helped wreck the 2000 defense. Even with the best offense in the league they couldn’t take that hit and remain the same team, as the playoffs showed.

October 13, 2016 at 10:10 am #55143

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Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Nine starters went down this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1BCEEntbs

Again, can’t use injuries as an excuse.

October 13, 2016 at 11:03 am #55146

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zn wrote:

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Nine starters went down this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1BCEEntbs

Yes but were they distributed all over the team, or, as I was pointing to, were they concentrated in a key unit? (I pointed to the qb/OL combo).

Some teams overcome injuries depending on their depth, which in turn depends on how veteran they are as a team. Plus of course it was easier to count on depth before free agency and the salary cap.

BUT I really wasn’t looking at that. I was looking at a particular situation–having to play mostly back-up qbs, and at the same time having continuing multiple and extensive injuries along the OL (ie. more than just 1 or 2 guys).

I can find teams that won in spite of numerous injuries, but then when injuries are heavily concentrated in a key unit, and it robs that unit of effectiveness, then, naturally you find it has an effect.

For example, in 2000, all 4 Rams linemen had off-season surgery. They then lost 2 on top of it during the season, plus Carter played while still not the same from back surgery. Injuries basically hurt the DL. While it wasn’t the only factor, that helped wreck the 2000 defense. Even with the best offense in the league they couldn’t take that hit and remain the same team, as the playoffs showed.

Basically today’s team at full strength isn’t near as good as either of those teams and that includes coaching. The D is better than 2000’s even without Quinn Brockers Hayes and Trujo but man the O is Healthy and sucking badly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE

October 13, 2016 at 10:45 pm #55178

zn
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Eternal Ramnation wrote:

The D is better than 2000’s even without Quinn Brockers Hayes and Trujo but man the O is Healthy and sucking badly

Yes all true but my point, remember, was this. It is hard for anyone to name a team that lost a starting qb and had to play a #2 caliber qb in his place AND had issues with extensive OL injuries AND did well.

That’s just true. Or at least I have never been presented with evidence to the contrary.

This year’s Rams offense struggles of course are not due to that combination of 2 things. So that’s a separate topic. But the Rams struggles as a team in 2014 and 2015 are directly related to that.

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