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  • #33543
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    new coordinator (who happens to be a rookie coordinator)
    new system
    quality of receivers
    green oline

    plus as you say, new qb.

    I am not sure the receivers are so bad, though. Cook, Kendricks, Britt, and Quick all played better last year. That means it’s at least in them to play at least that well this year. There’s something going on with chemistry, being in sync, and so on. Same thing happened last year at first with the defense.

    #33559
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    new coordinator (who happens to be a rookie coordinator)
    new system
    quality of receivers
    green oline

    plus as you say, new qb.

    I am not sure the receivers are so bad, though. Cook, Kendricks, Britt, and Quick all played better last year. That means it’s at least in them to play at least that well this year. There’s something going on with chemistry, being in sync, and so on. Same thing happened last year at first with the defense.

    That’s all true, and yet…they’ve been consistently bad. They’ve had camp, pre-season, and 7 games, and they aren’t even sputtering to life like a cold engine.

    #33561
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    That’s all true, and yet…they’ve been consistently bad. They’ve had camp, pre-season, and 7 games, and they aren’t even sputtering to life like a cold engine.

    All fair and true, but remember that one of the problems with the defense last year early on was that under the new CBA, installs take longer. Less practice time. Combine that with having a lot of new and young players and the thing gets compounded.

    I think it’s a combination of things. These are just my best guesses/hunches. —>

    Versus last year, I think a young and inexperienced line will be up and down and capable of being worse at times than a veteran line with injured starters. I also think compensating for that line means cutting back on things the offense can do. In terms of the numbers, if I recall, the sack rate this year is lower but the hit rate is higher.

    I also think Foles has flaws, but even with that, is capable of playing well. He can be a good qb. But getting pounded on makes him worse, for obvious reasons.

    Why did most of the receivers drop off? Well they’re not great receivers in the first place but they have played better, all of them (except Tavon who clearly improved). I think Quick is still reeling from the injury mentally and isn’t back to what he was last year before being injured. Plus Foles and Quick don’t have much chemistry yet. In general this reminds me of 2011, where the issue was being comfortable in the new offense. Players making mistakes because they’re pressing and not confident.

    Cignetti? First time coordinator. Schott was a coordinator since 2006—he was capable of fixing things overnight sometimes (example: in 2012 they didn’t like the redzone offense so changed it at the bye, and from then on the redzone offense stayed fixed). I wonder if it’s true that Cigz does the passing game and Boras the running game.

    But either way, to me it;s everything at once. Like the defense for the first bunch of games last year. Just not in sync yet.

    I don’t think Foles became worse than 2014, I think he’s in a worse situation than 2014. But then just like the defense last year, the situation can get better.

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    new coordinator (who happens to be a rookie coordinator)
    new system
    quality of receivers
    green oline

    plus as you say, new qb.

    I am not sure the receivers are so bad, though. Cook, Kendricks, Britt, and Quick all played better last year. That means it’s at least in them to play at least that well this year. There’s something going on with chemistry, being in sync, and so on. Same thing happened last year at first with the defense.

    it’s true that the wide receivers are performing worse than last year. but then again, they were never all that good.

    for example, if the wide receivers were bruce and holt, i suspect things wouldn’t be as bad.

    but the rams don’t need that caliber a receiver. they just need to get to a competent level.

    #33644
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    but the rams don’t need that caliber a receiver. they just need to get to a competent level.

    I think these guys are at least at a competent level, on paper. I think what we got right now is an execution issue. Now if suddenly the Rams could upgrade at receiver, I would be for it. But that aside, I don’t think these guys are that bad. I think this is a slump of some kind.

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