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  • #46759
    Avatar photozn
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    Just some names at random to get things started. In no particular order:

    Bert Jones, Namath, Steve Walsh, Keith Null, Scott Covington, Joe Germain, Kyle Boller, Steve Dils….

    #46760
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    1) Tony Banks, to me this guy was the worst Rams QB, never improved and didn’t have the greatest of attitude ………Ironically, he had a few snaps in Super Bowl 35 and has a ring…..

    I’m not sure Joe Germain, Covington, Null, Bert Jones, Boller deserve the dubious nod, since they barely got any actual play time for fans to see enough play to criticize.

    with that being said, I remember seeing Steve Walsh play in the early St. Louis seasons and this poor guy played terrible and HE barely played in Rams uniform.

    Steve Dils… I liked this guy at Stanford, I remember he replaced an injured Bartkowski in 1986 when the Rams offense was totally inept, in comes Everett to finally make good use of Henry Ellard with actual QB play…..

    BTW, about that 1986 season, I went to the SF / Ram game at the Big A that year…. Bartkowski was the starter, the game was tied late in the 4th qtr in an ugly game…. but the Rams put together one of my favorite all-time Ram drives…we initially had terrible seats for the game, but moved and squatted on some outstanding seats at Half-time to see the 2nd half….

    I remember driving home with my brother just talking up that final drive that saved an otherwise dismal day for the offense…….just a classic time consuming drive. (article below)

    http://articles.latimes.com/1986-09-15/sports/sp-11895_1_rams

    Bartkowski Saves His Best for Last; Rams Win, 16-13

    September 15, 1986|CHRIS DUFRESNE | Times Staff Writer

    The dagger had been all but planted in the back of the Rams’ offense Sunday as it lined up one more time on its own seven-yard line with six minutes left and nothing but the game on the line.

    For quarterback Steve Bartkowski, who had turned the common center snap into creative art form, the San Francisco goal line might just as well have been 93 miles away instead of 93 yards.

    Maybe the Rams could cheat and move the ball when no one was looking? How else would they get there?

    But just when it got so bad that you started wondering when Dieter Brock was due back, Bartkowski shocked a sellout crowd of 65,195 at Anaheim Stadium by leading his team on a 92-yard drive in the final minutes, setting up an 18-yard field goal by Mike Lansford with two seconds left to give the Rams a 16-13 win over the 49ers.

    It was the only way possible that Bartkowski and the Ram offense could have saved face in this one, as the Rams spent most of the afternoon moving laterally, watching the quarterback they couldn’t use (Jeff Kemp) nearly beat them.

    But that’s not the way it worked out and, for another week, Ram Coach John Robinson can just smile, knowing that he dodged yet another round of incriminating questions about that thing he refers to as his offense.

    Escaping also was Bartkowski, by way of the most important drive of his young Ram career.

    Bartkowski was 5 for 21 for 91 yards in last week’s opener and just 13 for 24 for 114 yards Sunday, but it would have been worse had he not completed 4 of 4 passes for 60 yards on the winning drive.

    “Nothing was crisp, I don’t know the reason,” Bartkowski said. “There’s a feeling you get when you have it. And when I get there, I’ll let you know.”

    For one brief moment, though, Bartkowski did get it back.

    With 6:10 remaining and the score tied, 13-13, the Rams found the ball at their own seven. At that point, they had totaled just 100 yards in offense, a number they would almost equal during the final drive.

    On first down, Bartkowski threw 12 yards to Barry Redden in the left flat. Two plays later, it was 10 yards to David Hill, then 6 yards to Ron Brown. With two minutes left, the Rams had worked down to the 49er 35-yard line, taking more than four minutes off the clock in the process.

    There, Bartkowski said he expected a 49er blitz and got it, leaving a soft spot in the secondary.

    Bobby Duckworth ran a post over the middle and Bartkowski dropped the ball perfectly in his hands at the 49er 11.

    Don Griffin, covering on the play, took a final swipe at Duckworth as the Ram stumbled forward after the catch and rolled into the end zone.

    The Rams assumed a touchdown, but the play was whistled dead at the three-yard line, the officials claiming that Griffin had made contact with Duckworth.

    Duckworth said later that he wasn’t touched, but things couldn’t have worked out better for the Rams.

    Duckworth made the catch with 1:11 remaining and, had it been ruled a touchdown, that would have given the 49ers a chance to counter.

    As it turned out, the Rams took the ball at the three, Dickerson picked up two yards in two carries and San Francisco called time out with five seconds to play.

    On third down, Lansford kicked the field goal and the Rams had escaped with a win for the second week in a row.

    Last week, the Cardinals were left standing on the Ram goal line when time ran out.

    “It’s obvious that we’re struggling,” Robinson said afterward. “We’re a long way from being a great football team. But we’re a football team with great heart.”

    Robinson’s was no doubt beating a little faster near the end.

    “We finally took the ball the length of the field,” he said. “I loved Steve Bartkowski (on) the last drive. It’s obvious he’s not playing at the level we think he can play, or the level he thinks he can. But, so what?”

    Of course, it might not have been “so what” had the 49ers pulled this one out, especially if Kemp, a Ram reserve for five years, had turned out to be the hero.

    And, except for two interceptions in the first quarter, Kemp was nothing short of brilliant.

    Of course, he’s going to have to be because Joe Montana will undergo back surgery this morning and be lost for the rest of the year.

    “I’m not Joe Montana but I’ll be looking forward to the challenge,” Kemp said.

    Kemp, flourishing in Coach Bill Walsh’s pass offense, put up some numbers that should have made Bartkowski jealous, completing 19 of 24 passes for 252 yards with 1 touchdown.

    His one touchdown, though, was a big one, a 66-yarder to Jerry Rice with 6:15 left in the third quarter to cut the Rams’ lead to 13-10.

    The 49ers tied the game with 2:37 remaining in the third quarter on a 29-yard field goal by Ray Wersching.

    Up to that point, the Ram offense had consisted of two Lansford field goals and LeRoy Irvin’s 65-yard touchdown return of a blocked field goal attempt by Wersching in the second quarter.

    The Ram defense, as usual, was expected to do it all.

    #46761
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    Before you can come up with a list I think context has to be established first. You have to look at expectations.

    There were high hopes for Bert Jones and Joe Namath (even though perhaps there shouldn’t have been). Those guys were brought in as the final ‘missing piece’ to get to a Super Bowl. The team was loaded at every position but just needed a solid vet QB to get over the hump. Both of those guys were too old and brittle.

    Guys like Null don’t deserve to be on the list. There were no expectations for him. He was never expected to be a starter. He was simply unfortunate enough to be forced into action on a talentless team with no hope of success. He never had any chance. Of course he wasn’t a good QB, but there was never any reason to expect him to be, unlike Jones and Namath.

    So my list would be limited to QBs who were drafted/acquired with the expectation to be good but busted instead. In no particular order…

    Namath
    Jones
    Brock
    Germaine
    Long
    Rypien
    Bartkowski
    Walsh
    Banks
    Dils

    Apparently, the Rams used to like to try for quick (but cheap) fixes by bringing in QBs that were past their prime hoping to get one more good year out of them.

    #46762
    bnw
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    1. Tony Banks. Consistently terrible.
    2. Nick Foles. Horrific and expensive.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

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