What causes the slow starts?

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  • May 10, 2015 at 11:36 am #24379
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    Any ideas on what causes the Rams to start slow under Fisher?
    Has it just been lack of talent and too much youth?
    Or is he too soft during pre-season ?
    Somethin else? Just bad luck?

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    “… our job is to get (the rookies) caught up,” he said. “That’s what we’re doing. We had a long lecture with them (Friday) not to go faster than three-quarter speed. That’s kind of the way we approach it. We’ve had two good days on the field, and I don’t have a single soft-tissue issue with anybody.”

    May 10, 2015 at 12:02 pm #24382
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    I just think it’s completely situational.

    2013: they started off with that woe-begotten, stillborn spread offense that depended on a play-action left OT, a non-back in Richardson, and several green receivers who were just not up to it.

    2014: no Bradford, and the OL had not played together that much in the summer, with both Wells and Long recovering.

    I has done said it before. Fisher’s teams peak and valley across long stretches–that is, both stretches include a series of consecutive seasons. When his teams are peaking, they do not start slow. Of course it’s also vice versa, but that’s a chicken/egg thing.

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    May 10, 2015 at 12:08 pm #24388
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    zn wrote:

    I just think it’s completely situational.

    2013: they started off with that woe-begotten, stillborn spread offense that depended on a play-action left OT, a non-back in Richardson, and several green receivers who were just not up to it.

    2014: no Bradford, and the OL had not played together that much in the summer, with both Wells and Long recovering.

    I has done said it before. Fisher’s teams peak and valley across long stretches–that is, both stretches include a series of consecutive seasons. When his teams are peaking, they do not start slow. Of course it’s also vice versa, but that’s a chicken/egg thing.

    Yeah, probably. But the Viking game last year
    was just ugly. I did not like it.

    I think it was mainly the Early season Defensive fiasco
    that lingers in my mind. Whatever that was about,
    i hope we dont see it again.

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    May 10, 2015 at 12:13 pm #24389
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    wv wrote:
    zn wrote:

    I just think it’s completely situational.

    2013: they started off with that woe-begotten, stillborn spread offense that depended on a play-action left OT, a non-back in Richardson, and several green receivers who were just not up to it.

    2014: no Bradford, and the OL had not played together that much in the summer, with both Wells and Long recovering.

    I has done said it before. Fisher’s teams peak and valley across long stretches–that is, both stretches include a series of consecutive seasons. When his teams are peaking, they do not start slow. Of course it’s also vice versa, but that’s a chicken/egg thing.

    Yeah, probably. But the Viking game last year
    was just ugly. I did not like it.

    I think it was mainly the Early season Defensive fiasco
    that lingers in my mind. Whatever that was about,
    i hope we dont see it again.

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    Out of sync OL, no Bradford. I was thinking all that at the time. Also, yeah, the defense was kind of lost too. Took them a while to get up to par.

    May 10, 2015 at 12:50 pm #24390
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    Also, yeah, the defense was kind of lost too. Took them a while to get up to par.

    new defensive coordinator. brockers playing at a different weight i believe. ogletree shows up out of shape…

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    May 10, 2015 at 8:47 pm #24406
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    new defensive coordinator. brockers playing at a different weight i believe. ogletree shows up out of shape…

    Also as Fisher revealed, after the KC game (I think it was) they just cut out a lot of packages, and focused the D on doing fewer things.

    I think that 2 Fisher slow starts go directly to this—plans that did not fit who they had.

    In 2013 it was (as I already opined above) that gawd-awful spread that depended on receivers and linemen who weren’t ready for it and a running back who didn’t fit it. Fisher reeled that in after 4 games.

    In 2014 it was Wms doing too much (IMO but I suspect this is real and not just an IMO). As much as GW talked about adapting to the players, he really didn’t do that, at least not in some crucial respects…instead he seemed to go all X n O mad scientist. And of course, this combination—young players who didn’t yet have a feel for what he was doing and him not slowing things down for them to work on execution—led to boatloads of game-costing errors. Big errors. We can even name a lot of them off. Romo to Bryant, Kaepernick to Lloyd…….

    I think Fisher let his coordinators get ahead of themselves. It has now led to 2 wholesale in-season revisions: dumping the spread in 2013, simplifying the D in 2014.

    This season, he seems to be ahead of that curve in advance.

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