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May 28, 2015 at 9:31 am #25429znModerator
Greg Robinson’s upside
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18772/morning-ram-blings-greg-robinsons-upside
EARTH CITY, Mo. — Over at TheMMQB.com earlier this week, Greg A. Bedard wrote an excellent Memorial Day tribute but buried deeper in the piece was an interesting take on St. Louis Rams left tackle Greg Robinson.
In the part where it discusses Robinson, Bedard has words from offensive line coach Paul Boudreau about the difficulty of getting young linemen up to speed on shorter notice. In some ways, it’s not much different than a quarterback transitioning from a spread offense to the NFL. Robinson didn’t come with much polish and certainly had no experience playing in a pro-style offense at Auburn.
So Robinson’s learning curve was steeper and that was evident in the mixed results he offered. But more notable than that was what Boudreau had to say about Robinson’s potential.
“Now, I coached Willie Roaf when Willie was a rookie,” Boudreau told Bedard. “Willie’s in the Hall of Fame. And I can tell you from a coach who coached Willie and now coaches Greg Robinson: Greg Robinson as a rookie has more talent and is a better player than Willie. Willie had a great coach at Louisiana Tech, and Willie was ahead of the curve because of the techniques he was taught, just like how we talk about preferring the Wisconsin, Iowa, Stanford and Notre Dame guys. They have one up on the guys from the spread. I’m not going to tell a spread coach he can’t do it anymore. What I’m saying to the NFL is, ‘Give me a chance to change this spread guy to an NFL guy. Don’t restrict me.’ Back in the day, we could take the Wing-T guys and convert them because we had the time. Just give me a chance to coach my guys and don’t tell me I can only have them for four hours.”
Putting Robinson in company with Roaf, even on a basic talent level, is pretty high praise for the Rams’ second-year tackle. Robinson undoubtedly has the physical ability to be a star. But whether he maxes out his potential will come down to mastering the intricacies of the position. If he can do it sooner than later, it’d be a boon for the Rams in 2015.
May 28, 2015 at 6:20 pm #25445InvaderRamModeratori was wondering if anyone posted this. wow. strong words from boudreau, and he doesn’t seem the type to just toss around compliments like that. he’s on my short list of rams players to watch this season. i think this guy could be special.
and i want to add that it’s not just the athleticism. he’s smart as well. and he’s got that boudreau temperament.
May 28, 2015 at 6:35 pm #25446znModeratori was wondering if anyone posted this. wow. strong words from boudreau,
The original is here.
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/what-the-college-spread-new-cba-did-to-ol-coaching-rams-come-up/
May 29, 2015 at 3:24 pm #25474znModeratorSt. Louis Rams offseason roster review: A new-look offensive line
By Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams don’t start organized team activities until June 2, but with most of the offseason heavy lifting complete, the roster you see now likely has the vast majority of players who will be on it come the start of the regular season.
With that in mind, we’ll spend the next week or so delving into each position group with some thoughts on who will start, who might be on the bubble and how the depth chart could shake out.
Position: Offensive line
Returning: Rodger Saffold, Greg Robinson, Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, Demetrius Rhaney, Brandon Washington, Travis Bond, Steven Baker
Newcomers: Garrett Reynolds, Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, Cody Wichmann, David Wang, Darrell Williams
Departures: Jake Long, Scott Wells, Joe Barksdale, Davin Joseph, Mike Person
Projected starter(s): Robinson, Saffold, Barnes, Brown, Havenstein
Battle to watch: There’s no shortage of choices here given the amount of turnover on the offensive line, but the choice is clear: starting center. The Rams have three obvious candidates in Barnes, Jones and Rhaney. Barnes is the only one of the three with any sort of real playing time in the NFL though even that is limited to four starts and the bulk of another game as a replacement for Wells. He re-signed after the team didn’t tender him as a restricted free agent. The Rams have invested two years in Jones, who hasn’t been able to stay healthy but by all accounts is smart enough and up to speed on the playbook to step in and handle the mental side of things right away. Rhaney is more of an unknown after he arrived as a seventh-round pick last year and never got going because of an injury. The Rams like Jones’ intelligence, Barnes’ experience and Rhaney’s toughness, which means this figures to be a wide-open competition as we head toward organized team activities and training camp. Barnes might be the current favorite on paper but keep a close eye on Jones and Rhaney as we proceed.
Outlook: There is no group on the roster that has undergone more change than the offensive line this offseason. Only Saffold was a starter on opening day in 2014 and though Robinson got his share of experience as the season went on, he’s undoubtedly still a work in progress at left tackle. With center an unknown commodity, the Rams look like they’re going to rely on a pair of rookies at the other guard spot and right tackle. Havenstein is all but set as Barksdale’s replacement at right tackle and, as it stands, Brown looks like the favorite to win the other guard job. That plan could be put on hold if either struggles early on, though, as Reynolds could be a spot starter until Brown or Havenstein gets up to speed. The Rams could also theoretically still pursue a veteran like guard Justin Blalock. It’s a move that still makes too much sense for the Rams not to do it, but there hasn’t been any urgency on either side to make that happen. Beyond that, the Rams don’t have much in the way of experience among the backups. Line coach Paul Boudreau has a big task in front of him to make all of the moving pieces fit together in a short period of time
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