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May 9, 2020 at 9:48 pm #114761znModerator
A group of about 11 mostly-armed demonstrators protesting the stay at home order marched around downtown Raleigh and ordered sandwiches at a Subway. #Covid_19 #ncpol #MealTeamSix pic.twitter.com/XA1BIU7JHH
— Travis Long (@vizjourno) May 9, 2020
May 11, 2020 at 12:59 am #114789znModeratorPeter Daszak is a British-born American PhD who’s spent a career discovering dangerous viruses in wildlife, especially bats. In 2003, he warned 60 Minutes a pandemic was coming. Two weeks ago, NIH funding for his virology research was killed. https://t.co/dnEmFCF1MI pic.twitter.com/pKnnffNNOH
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) May 10, 2020
May 11, 2020 at 12:53 pm #114805znModeratorSo it appears you don’t need the gym to workout. https://t.co/SR49XK8FvI
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) May 11, 2020
May 11, 2020 at 8:18 pm #114815znModeratorWhite House adviser to 25 million unemployed Americans: Tough. Throw yourself a ‘Pity Party.’ https://t.co/U7ikhHE95U
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) May 11, 2020
May 12, 2020 at 7:23 am #114827nittany ramModerator@JoelGHodgson pic.twitter.com/iz9NaBKQz3
— Jessica Ward (@Jessica1187) May 11, 2020
May 12, 2020 at 2:57 pm #114834znModeratorfrom Facebook
James MelansonSo, do we laugh hysterically or cry? These three supposed “Christians” (no, they’re NOT, not acting like this) are protesting ‘stay at home’ orders by comparing it to Christ’s crucifixion. Honestly, you cannot fix this level of stupid. Jesus was crucified because he fought for the marginalized people who were oppressed and persecuted, not because he got tired of looking at Youtube and wanted to eat inside an Applebees. In fact, given how deeply Jesus cared about the sick, this action is the height of sacrilegious behavior. Someone really needed to drive by while shooting at them with a nail gun. There, wish granted! (Nice touch doing it next to the McDonald’s parking lot, BTW!).
May 12, 2020 at 11:32 pm #114854znModeratorAlex from Chicago@SKOL_doctor
The problem is that people like my dad (far right conservatives) believe those numbers are fabricated even tho his son (me) works in a hospital with palpable, real data that I literally screenshot to him. And then he plans to go to a GD rally in Springfield in 2 weeks FMLMay 13, 2020 at 7:12 pm #114882wvParticipantJust an odd little snippet:https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m810/rr-0
Rapid Response:
Flu shots and the risk of coronavirus infectionsJohn Watkins is right; we need to think beyond containment, but he overlooks the possibility that seasonal flu shots are potential contributors to the current outbreak. (BMJ 2020;398:m810—February 28)….A randomized placebo-controlled trial in children showed that flu shots increased fivefold the risk of acute respiratory infections caused by a group of noninfluenza viruses, including coronaviruses. (Cowling et al, Clin Infect Dis 2012;54:1778) From Table 3, vaccine recipients had 20 noninfluenza virus-positive ARIs and 19 virus-negative ARIs; non-recipients had 3 noninfluenza virus-positive ARIs and 14 virus-negative ARIs. These figures yield an odds ratio of 4.91 (CI 1.04 to8.14).
Such an observation may seem counterintuitive, but it is possible that influenza vaccines alter our immune systems non-specifically to increase susceptibility to other infections; this has been observed with DTP and other vaccines. (Benn et al, Trends in Immunology, May 2013) There are other immune mechanisms that might also explain the observation.
To investigate this possibility, a case-control study is in order as we study and care for the victims of covid-19. Influenza vaccines have become sacred cows in some quarters, but they shouldn’t be.
ALLAN S. CUNNINGHAM 2 March 2020
May 13, 2020 at 7:16 pm #114883wvParticipant————–
China to test ENTIRE POPULATION of Wuhan for Covid-19 after disease reemergesChinese authorities plan to test all of Wuhan’s 11 million residents for Covid-19 in a little over a week. After more than a month without newly-recorded cases, the disease has suddenly reappeared in the city.
All districts in the city were ordered to submit a plan on how they will conduct testing of all residents in their areas within 10 days, local media reported, citing a document from the authorities. The officials were told to prioritize the testing of vulnerable groups and places like residential compounds.
The measure was announced as a response to the six new locally-transmitted cases that were recorded in Wuhan on Sunday and Monday, after no infections were registered for 35 consecutive days in the central Hubei Province, where Wuhan is the capital. All six new patients were living in the same compound.
May 14, 2020 at 5:40 pm #114911znModeratorMay 14, 2020 at 6:46 pm #114912znModeratorMay 16, 2020 at 1:15 am #114973znModeratorfrom Smokers Hospitalized Less Often for COVID-19
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200430/smokers-hospitalized-less-often-for-covid-19
Few of those hospitalized with the coronavirus are smokers, and researchers are trying to understand why, according to VICE. One hypothesis is that nicotine, which has anti-inflammatory properties, may interfere with the way that COVID-19 causes an overreaction of the immune system.
“We all know that smoking is obviously bad for you,” Raymond Niaura of New York University told VICE. Niaura co-authored the paper with Farsalinos. “It follows logically that smokers would be way worse off. I would think that too. But I’ve been surprised: That’s not the story we’re necessarily seeing.”
In France, researchers plan to test nicotine patches on hospital workers and patients who tested positive for COVID-19, according to The Guardian.
Another preprint paper, based on a study in Paris, found data similar to that seen in China. Among 350 people admitted to the hospital, about 4.4% were regular smokers.
Data in the U.S. look similar as well, according to the CDC. Among 7,000 hospitalized patients, about 1.3% were current smokers and 2.3% were former smokers, though about 14% of the country smokes.
For now, scientists and public health experts are studying the hypotheses as quickly as they can. Public health agencies continue to encourage people to quit smoking and vaping during the pandemic since COVID-19 is a respiratory disease that can severely affect the lungs.
May 16, 2020 at 8:21 pm #114995znModeratorMay 18, 2020 at 5:05 pm #115075znModeratorFox News's Neil Cavuto is stunned by Trump's announcement that he's taking hydroxychloroquine: "If you are in a risky population here, and you are taking this as a preventative treatment … it will kill you. I cannot stress enough. This will kill you." pic.twitter.com/e6D5alfAgc
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 18, 2020
May 18, 2020 at 8:36 pm #115078znModeratorSo safe to go back to work that none of them did https://t.co/9h47TOaiij
— Molly Jong-Fast🏡 (@MollyJongFast) May 18, 2020
May 18, 2020 at 9:56 pm #115081znModeratorA key coronavirus model revises its US death projection slightly downward, predicting that 143,360 people will die by August 4 https://t.co/4T9Tf8RLks
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) May 19, 2020
May 19, 2020 at 1:07 am #115085JackPMillerParticipantMay 20, 2020 at 10:33 pm #115140znModerator“In the New York metro area alone, 21,800 people had died by May 3. Fewer than 4,300 would have died by then if control measures had been put in place and adopted nationwide just a week earlier, on March 8” https://t.co/9qkpbWEEeT
— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) May 21, 2020
May 24, 2020 at 11:27 am #115275znModeratorNate Geary@NateGearyWGR
Don’t worry gang, COVID understands and realizes that we’ve all been cooped up and that it’s Memorial Day weekend so its’ decided to ease up on the whole deadly and super contagious thing so we can gather in large crowds on the beach.==
No covid concerns at the lake of the ozarks😳 #loto pic.twitter.com/Yrb4UNM64u
— Scott Pasmore (@scottpasmoretv) May 24, 2020
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So I guess we have our control group. https://t.co/hObxf63JHg
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) May 24, 2020
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May 26, 2020 at 6:05 pm #115344znModeratorTrump tells a reporter to take of coronavirus mask and stop being ‘politically correct’https://t.co/NmHrbDduIb
— Raw Story (@RawStory) May 26, 2020
May 27, 2020 at 9:02 pm #115370znModeratorMay 28, 2020 at 10:45 am #115381nittany ramModeratorDeaths from COVID19 May be massively underestimated…
According to the CDC, so far this year, Florida has had 1,762 deaths from #COVID and 5,185 from pneumonia.
Average pneumonia deaths in Florida from 2013-2018 for the same time period are 918.
Probably just a coincidence, yeah?
— Kellen Squire (@SquireForYou) May 27, 2020
May 28, 2020 at 11:08 am #115382znModeratorthe wink tank asks #40BillionForWhat@piper_winks
Harvard president Bacow said that when he got COVID-19, his first thought was “This is going to be interesting.” Not “How will I earn money to feed my family?” or “How will I afford healthcare?” Those are the thoughts of his workers, who still don’t have paid sick leave or PPE.May 30, 2020 at 10:57 am #115464znModeratorfrom A partygoer who attended the now-infamous Lake of the Ozarks pool party has tested positive for COVID-19, meaning hundreds could have been exposed.
https://news.yahoo.com/partygoer-attended-now-infamous-lake-061037083.html
Revelers celebrate Memorial Day weekend at Osage Beach of the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, U.S., May 23, 2020 in this screen grab taken from social media video and obtained by Reuters on May 24, 2020. Twitter/Lawler50/via REUTERSA Missouri resident who attended a crowded pool party at the Lake of the Ozarks has tested positive for the coronavirus, local outlet KMBC reported.
Footage of the crowded party garnered condemnation online.
The owner of the bar that hosted the event defended his decision.
June 12, 2020 at 4:29 am #116272znModeratorOh Orange County, how I miss you.. https://t.co/Fa1GXBjcMc
— SeattleRams (@seattlerams_nfl) June 12, 2020
June 12, 2020 at 4:46 am #116300znModerator— Reinvent Your Work 🌻 (@ReinventUrWork) June 12, 2020
June 12, 2020 at 2:13 pm #116434znModeratorThe coronavirus pandemic isn’t ending — it’s surging
As restrictions are lifted around the world, the sense of urgency surrounding the novel coronavirus pandemic has weakened. Hundreds of millions of students have returned to school; restaurants, bars and other businesses are slowly reopening in many countries. In parts of Europe, vaccine researchers worry that they will not have enough sick people for testing.
But this historic pandemic is not ending. It is surging. There were 136,000 new infections reported on Sunday, the highest single-day increase since the start of the pandemic. There are more than 7 million confirmed cases so far. The number of deaths is nearing half a million, with little sign of tapering off, and global health experts are continuing to sound the alarm.
“By no means is this over,” Mike Ryan, the World Health Organization’s executive director, said Wednesday. “If we look at the numbers over the last number of weeks, this pandemic is still evolving. It is still growing in many parts of the world.”
Latin America has emerged as a hot spot, currently accounting for almost half of global deaths by the Financial Times’ tally. The problem is particularly acute in Brazil, where the central government has maintained a hands-off attitude to the outbreak even as cases surged to almost 750,000, second only to the United States, but it has also hit countries, such as Peru, that took early steps against the virus.
Cases have surged in South Asia. WHO officials urged Pakistan to lock down after officials declared a record number of new cases in the past 24 hours. India is facing a new wave of infection; a top official in Delhi on Wednesday said that cases were expected to soar above 500,000 by the end of next month. Indonesia had its biggest daily increase in coronavirus cases for a second consecutive day on Wednesday, with 1,241 new infections.
Across sub-Saharan Africa, there are now more than 200,000 cases: There is widespread speculation that Pierre Nkurunziza, Burundi’s president, who died on Tuesday, was the first world leader to die of covid-19, though Burundian officials have said the cause of death was cardiac arrest.
The scale of the coronavirus has made it hard to take in. “In the period of four months, it has devastated the world,” Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN on Tuesday. “And it isn’t over yet.”
Some nations that were devastated early in the pandemic look to be losing ground in their recovery. In Iran and the United States, two countries divided by geopolitical enmity, experts are united by fresh fears of a second wave; new cases in Iran have surged to record highs weeks after the country eased its lockdown.
Some Iranian officials have blamed increased testing, which in itself raises questions about the first outbreak’s extent. “We don’t know if it will be a second wave, a second peak or a continuing first wave in some countries,” WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan told CNBC.
U.S. states are seeing an increasing number of patients since Memorial Day weekend, when many people socialized in groups in parts of the country, while there are new concerns that the anti-racism protests sparked by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis could add to a nationwide surge.
In the United States and elsewhere, the protests about injustice are partly fueled by the racial disparities seen in the outbreak. Protesters have attempted to maintain social distance and use masks and hand sanitizer — but that has not always proved possible.
Public health experts have expressed understanding about the protests. “It doesn’t help to say police violence doesn’t matter,” Gregg Gonsalves, a professor of epidemiology at Yale, told New York Magazine. “The health disparities that have killed tens of thousands of people over a half a century don’t matter. We are saying we understand it matters; they’re public-health issues too.”
But almost all experts acknowledge that mass protests are a risk — just as the reopening of the economy seen in many nations around the world, including the United States, carries risks. “The facts suggest that the U.S. is not going to beat the coronavirus,” the Atlantic’s Alexis Madrigal and Robinson Meyer write. “Collectively, we slowly seem to be giving up.”
That demoralized attitude is reflected at the top of American politics: It has been more than a month since the Trump administration held a daily coronavirus task force briefing.
What will it look like to finally beat the virus? We can see some glimpses of it, if we look hard enough: New Zealand declared itself coronavirus-free this week; Taiwan is close to that milestone too. Some smaller nations, like the Pacific island of Samoa, have avoided getting a single confirmed case.
But until the pandemic is pushed back globally, these victories are fragile. We’ve seen this year how easily the virus can travel to a country and, once inside, spread furiously. Even for countries without the virus, the economic pain is still there.
The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development on Wednesday predicted that there would probably be a drop of 6 percent in global economic productivity this year, among the worst declines in a century. If there is a second wave, the drop would be worse — 7.6 percent — the organization said, with unemployment at 10 percent in developed countries in 2020 and little improvement next year.
Even in newly reopened New Zealand, that impact is evident. Officials in Auckland said this week that foot traffic and spending in the central business district were only 40 percent of what they had been before the virus. “When you’ve normally got an inner-city workforce in excess of 138,000 people, coupled with international tourists, that’s a major change in customers,” one told the New Zealand Herald.
There are some reasons to be hopeful. A study by Britain’s Cambridge and Greenwich universities released Wednesday suggested that widespread mask wearing could help prevent a second wave as damaging as the first. Vaccine trials are beginning and many hope that the ambitious, accelerated development timetables will produce results as soon as the end of the year.
But there is still much we don’t know and little reason to feel triumphant right now. “This microscopic virus has humbled all of us,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Wednesday.
June 13, 2020 at 9:15 am #116466znModeratorCases, Hospitalization Rates Climb In Previous Cold Spots In Post-Memorial Day Surge
link https://khn.org/morning-breakout/cases-hospitalization-rates-climb-in-previous-cold-spots-in-post-memorial-day-surge/
Public health experts are alarmed by several indicators such as hospitalization rates. Some states are nearing their ICU bed capacity, a warning sign from the early days of the pandemic. This week, confirmed cases in the U.S. climbed past 2 million and over 113,000 Americans have died.—
The Associated Press: Alarming Rise In Virus Cases As States Roll Back Lockdowns
https://apnews.com/feb4c26d9364497cf82ee7c0c1b1b3d5
States are rolling back lockdowns, but the coronavirus isn’t done with the U.S. Cases are rising in nearly half the states, according to an Associated Press analysis, a worrying trend that could intensify as people return to work and venture out during the summer. In Arizona, hospitals have been told to prepare for the worst. Texas has more hospitalized COVID-19 patients than at any time before. (Stobbe, 6/11)—
The Wall Street Journal: Covid-19 Hospitalizations Surge In Some States
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-hospitalizations-surge-in-some-states-11591912459
The post-Memorial Day outbreaks in states come roughly a month after stay-at-home orders were lifted. Experts urged people to continue to take the virus seriously and not take increased freedom as permission to stop wearing masks or resume gathering in large groups. Dr. Marc Boom, chief executive officer of the Houston Methodist hospital network, said he is concerned by the “array of indicators, all of which are starting to flash at us,” including increased cases, a rise in hospitalizations and a boost in the percentage of positive test results. (Collin and Findell, 6/11)June 16, 2020 at 12:11 am #116601znModeratorfrom 8 days after quarantine and testing negative, 142 Fort Benning soldiers test positive for COVID-19
https://connectingvets.radio.com/articles/fort-benning-confirms-142-covid-19-cases-in-2-battalions?fbclid=IwAR0VYL4RhQz63YJUw0fpwRN1Xdziv95RpUnnTK4jvF7zfKJoMEXkaQi4LmwAfter the 14-day monitoring period, training operations began with COVID-19 prevention measures in place including masks and social distancing. Despite these efforts, however, eight days after the end of the 14-day monitoring period, one recruit reported to the chain of command with COVID-19 symptoms.
All 640 recruits — which form 30th AG Battalion and 2nd Battalion, 29th Infantry Regiment — were retested for COVID-19. After all 640 tests were returned over a two-day period, that same cohort of recruits had a 22 percent COVID-positive rate with 142 positive tests.
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from The coronavirus outbreak in Arizona is going very badly
https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-arizona-going-very-163723467.html
Will Humble, the former director of the Arizona Department of Health Services, said last week that the surge in new cases was “definitely related” to the lifted stay-at-home order.
While the order was still in place, about 5% of statewide COVID-19 tests were positive. By early June, the rate more than doubled to 12%. The state doesn’t require people to wear masks.
“This is not an abstract number of cases,” Dr. Peter Hotez, the dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, told NPR. “We’re seeing people pile into intensive care units.” Banner Health, the largest hospital in the state, also said its ICUs were “very busy” in a statement last week.
“Arizona’s COVID-19 hospitalizations are rapidly increasing,” Banner Chief Clinical Officer Dr. Marjorie Bessel said.
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