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    New senator in Alabama

    https://www.npr.org/2017/12/12/570291123/will-it-be-moore-or-jones-polls-are-closed-in-divisive-alabama-senate-election

    Democrat Doug Jones has won the Alabama Senate special election, according to the Associated Press, eking out a once unheard of victory after GOP opponent Roy Moore was accused of sexual assault.
    The win by Jones is sure to send shock waves through Washington, delivering a rebuke to President Trump, who backed Moore despite the allegations against him. The special election to replace Attorney General Jeff Sessions was upended last month as multiple women came forward to say Moore had pursued them romantically as teenagers when he was in his 30s. Some alleged he had sexually assaulted them, including one woman who said he had initiated sexual contact with her when she was just 14. Moore has denied the accusations.
    The unfolding controversy made what should have been a safe GOP race anything but, and their first Democratic Senate victory in the state in 25 years.

    President Trump had come to Moore’s defense, casting doubt on the women’s allegations — much like he has with the multiple women who accuse him of sexual assault. While Trump didn’t campaign with Moore, the president did hold a rally just across the border from Alabama in Pensacola, Fla., on Friday evening and recorded a robocall on his behalf, urging voters to choose Moore because he will support his agenda in the Senate. And after Trump endorsed Moore last week, the Republican National Committee reinstated its financial support for the GOP nominee after pulling it following the accusations.
    Other national Republicans had been far less hospitable. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he believes Moore’s accusers and called on him to step aside, though he has softened his stance in recent weeks by saying the choice is up to Alabama voters. National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Cory Gardner, R-Colo., who is in charge of protecting the GOP’s Senate majority in 2018, withdrew funding from Moore’s campaign and at one point said he should be expelled from the Senate if he wins.
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    Even the state’s senior GOP senator, Richard Shelby, had admitted he didn’t vote for Moore, saying “the Republican Party can do better” and revealing he had instead written in another candidate. Condoleezza Rice, a Birmingham native who served as secretary of state under President George W. Bush, cut a robocall in the race, not-so-subtly urging voters in her home state to “reject bigotry, sexism, and intolerance.”

    Jones is a former U.S. attorney who is best known for prosecuting KKK members decades later for the killing of four young African-American girls in a 1963 Birmingham church bombing. He hopes that background can help turn out African-American voters he needs to win. He has outspent Moore almost 10-1 and has had an active campaign schedule, while Moore has been largely absent from the campaign trail in the final stretch, and has an active field operation, while the GOP nominee’s staff has been a
    Moore had remained defiant, using a very Trumpian strategy of running against the media and the D.C. establishment he says has conspired against him and are behind the allegations. And he won the GOP primary over appointed Sen. Luther Strange earlier this year, despite being heavily outspent by both Strange and a superPAC allied with McConnell.
    But even before the accusations of sexual assault surfaced Moore was a controversial figure in Alabama politics who narrowly won election in the past and lost nominations for governor. He is a former Alabama Supreme Court chief justice who was twice removed from the bench, the first time for refusing to remove a statue of the Ten Commandments he’d had erected in the state judiciary building. Later, he was re-elected to the court, but then suspended after he directed state judges to ignore the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2015 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.
    Moore’s Christian nationalist positions are something that resonate with many of the state’s white evangelical voters, and he hasn’t backed off his controversial positions against same-sex marriage and transgender rights.

    #78861
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    Yay.

    #78867
    Avatar photowv
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    “Amazing: turnout is at 72%-77% of ’16 presidential race in heavily black counties, but just 55%-60% in rural white counties. Black voters punching above their weight tonight & giving Jones a chance. #ALSEN”
    link:https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/940778153533992961

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    “..ones had a big advantage among younger voters and won overwhelming majorities among African Americans. He also won the independent vote by 9 points, an indication that Moore was abandoned by sections of affluent white voters who traditionally vote Republican. Some 22,000 voters cast write-in ballots, a higher number than Jones’ margin of victory. On Sunday, Senator Shelby had told CNN that he would not vote for Moore and he urged Alabama Republicans to write in the names of other Republicans…
    …Apart from this sexual mud-slinging, Jones stressed his independence from the national Democratic Party, his support for increased military spending, his commitment to fiscal austerity and his backing for tax cuts to improve the business climate for corporations wishing to exploit the deeply impoverished working class in Alabama. He combined an appeal to black voters with an effort to win over disaffected Republicans.”
    link:http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/13/elec-d13.html

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    #78952
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    Lessons of the Alabama election
    14 December 2017

    Media pundits and Democratic Party leaders are hailing the outcome of the special election in Alabama to fill a seat in the US Senate—with Democrat Doug Jones narrowly defeating the ultra-right Republican Roy Moore—as a political “miracle.”

    “Thank you, Alabama,” gushed the Washington Post, for choosing “to spare the nation the indignity of seating an accused child molester in the U.S. Senate.” The editorial concluded: “Thanks to Alabama, Americans can wake up Wednesday morning feeling hopeful about the decency and dignity of their democracy.”

    The New York Times sounded the same theme, headlining its editorial, “Roy Moore Loses, Sanity Reigns,” and hailing a “triumph for decency and common sense in a state that seemed for a time at risk of abandoning both…” Referring to the right-wing Democrat who defeated Moore, the Times declared that Alabamians had been correct in “choosing a candidate whose record was cause for pride, not shame, one who spent his career battling bigotry, not exploiting it.”

    The spreading of editorial rose petals over the Alabama result should fool no one. A right-wing Democrat, operating with a nearly 10-1 financial advantage, has eked out a victory over a fascistic candidate, not by confronting and opposing Moore’s ultra-right pronouncements, let alone offering an alternative to defend working people. Instead, Jones owes his razor-thin margin to the unleashing over the past month of a barrage of allegations of sexual misconduct by Moore….

    …The Trump administration is deeply unpopular, the Republican Congress even more so. There has been a significant shift to the left in public opinion. But within the framework of capitalist politics, mass hostility to Trump has led to the election of right-wing Democrats: in the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial elections last month, the victory of a former Goldman Sachs banker and a conservative lieutenant governor who voted twice for George W. Bush; and now in the Alabama Senate race, the victory of Doug Jones, who ran as a law-and-order candidate and pledges to work with right-wing Republican Senator Richard Shelby and seek “common ground” with the Trump White House.

    The last week of the Alabama election campaign coincided with the visit to that state by the UN Special Rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, who went to rural areas of the state where conditions are so abominable, in terms of water and sewage infrastructure, primitive housing, and poverty, that he said he had never seen as bad in any industrialized country.

    These conditions are the joint responsibility of the two right-wing parties that hold all political offices in the United States and control local, state and national government. Living standards and social conditions continue to deteriorate under Democrats and Republicans alike. The working class must draw the necessary political conclusions, and take the road of independent political struggle against the capitalist system, building a new mass political party based on a socialist program.

    Patrick Martin
    link:http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/14/pers-d14.html

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    #78958
    PA Ram
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    I think that it’s pointless reading political tea leaves.

    Doug Jones won against probably the worst kind of candidate a political party can nominate. And he won by about 20,000 votes. He BARELY got by–and that was against a guy who picked up teenagers at the mall when he was in his thirties. The Dems won this because Roy Moore was a horrible candidate. They did not win Alabama on issues.

    New Jersey was easy. A horrid governor in Cristie. A northeast state. Yeah–shoulda won.

    Virginia has been sort of moving blue anyway. Clinton even won there over Trump.

    The Dems have far more senate seats to defend. They probably will not flip that. There are 25 Democrats running vs. 8 Republicans. There are only two Republican states that really seem in play: Nevada and Arizona.

    On the other hand, Missouri, West Virginia, and Indiana are big question marks for the Dems.

    They’d have to flip 25 seats in the House. Maybe. But not easy.

    I’m not sure I’m buying into this feeling of hope by some on the left that a sort of tsunami will sweep through and wipe out Republicans in 2018.

    Hey–it’s great that Roy Moore lost. Maybe there is a line some people won’t cross when it comes to politicians. But it was close.

    I don’t take Ann Coulter very seriously. She strikes me like a lot of the others–a WWE act.

    I don’t think that Roy Moore lost Alabama because he was for open borders or wasn’t screaming about “the wall” enough. And he did not lose as a rejection of Trump. He lost because he was a horrible candidate.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #78962
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    I’m glad Moore lost, but this doesn’t imply some sort of “new direction” for the country.

    White men and women still voted against Jones by a two to one margin.

    A larger than usual turnout from black voters is the only reason Moore lost. And they turned out despite Alabama’s best efforts to prevent them from doing so.

    #78996
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    I’m not sure I’m buying into this feeling of hope by some on the left that a sort of tsunami will sweep through and wipe out Republicans in 2018.

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    Well, i think the problem is there is no ‘left’ in the US, Pa. Or i should say it is a very small collection of Americans.

    If there ‘was’ a big-Left in America we would not be in this ‘situation.’ We would not have a senate and house full of corporate-biosphere-destroying weasels.

    I think the system employed all kinds of means to colonize Americans brains, and now….well…you know what i think 🙂

    PS: Btw, i watched John Sayles (Matewan) “8 Men Out” yesterday. Interesting take on the baseball scandal. Sayles movie suggests the players were not being paid a living wage and had good reasons to take money to throw the World Series….etc.

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