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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Derion Kendrick makes the play of the game couldn’t script it any better than that! Almost made it a play before on the tipped pass. His first career INT.
    Then he gets called for a penalty. Classic.
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    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    The Rams sweep the Seahawks and sweep away a whole slew of gnarly streaks, including a November drought.

    Defense gives up 3 points combined, in two second halves vs SEA this year.

    Next up, can they win back-to-back for the first time? If so, it’s on.

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    The next four games for the Seahawks:

    Vs. 49ers
    @ DAL
    @ SF
    Vs. PHI

     

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    Los Angeles Rams UK@LARams_UK
    My summary of what was a game of penalties.

    We led for 91 seconds of that game but it was the 91 seconds that counted most

    PARAM

    In two second halves of football vs the Rams this season, the Seahawks amassed 99 yards of offense, scored 3 points and converted 1 of 12 third downs.

    Conversely, the Rams offense has 430 yards, 33 points and converted 9 of 15 third downs. If we could only play like that against everybody.

    lahornsgear@Horns2016@Horns2016
    Rams are now 4-6 and believe it or not, they are 3-1 within the division.

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    The Rams entered the fourth quarter trailing 16-7. Defense gave them a chance. Offense made plays when they needed them.

    Darrell Henderson is averaging 0.8 yards per carry. Royce Freemman is averaging almost five yards per carry. Why is Henderson still getting the ball?

    Freeman has been good. Henderson has shown why he was available for a year. Kyren Williams cannot return to the lineup fast enough.

    lahornsgear@Horns2016@Horns2016
    This was a gut check win for the Rams. A lot of credit goes to the Rams defense to hold the Seahawks to field goals in the 1st quarter. Also on offense Royce Freemans physical runs made the Seahawks respect the Rams run game, which opened up the passing game in the 2nd half.

    Sarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
    Sean McVay said he doesn’t have an update on WR Cooper Kupp. He said Kupp was trying to come back in the game in the second half, but his ankle didn’t feel quite right.

    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Brycen Hopkins, Davis Allen and Hunter Long can surely drop passes and miss in-line blocks, too. Why not let them get the reps at this point?

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    ‘This is one of the things that makes him great’: Matthew Stafford brushes off big hit to help rally

    Stu Jackson

    https://www.therams.com/news/matthew-stafford-brushes-off-big-hit-help-rally-rams-to-week-11-win-seahawks

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. – For quarterback Matthew Stafford and the Rams, it was a gut-check moment.

    Literally.

    Los Angeles was trailing the Seattle Seahawks 16-7 with 14:05 remaining in the fourth quarter when Seahawks defensive end Mario Edwards delivered a clean but vicious hit to Stafford’s midsection after Stafford launched a pass on a trick play that was intercepted by Seahawks cornerback Tariq Woolen.

    Not only did Stafford not miss a single snap after that play, he also went on to help L.A. rally to score the final 10 points of Sunday’s game in a 17-16 Rams victory.

    “Wasn’t great, but just needed a second really more than anything,” Stafford said. “Unfortunate play, didn’t want it to end the way it ended. Looked better when we repped it in practice, and obviously wasn’t a successful play, but proud just proud of the guys for bouncing back.”

    On the next offensive series, Stafford completed each of his next four passes – gains of 23, 14 and 17 11 yards – to help set up running back Darrell Henderson Jr.’s 1-yard touchdown run that cut their deficit to two with 7:41 remaining.

    The first play after the change of possession from defensive back Derion Kendrick’s interception? A 32-yard completion to wide receiver Puka Nacua, on a drive that again reached inside the Seahawks 5-yard line and ended with what would be kicker Lucas Havrisik’s game-winning field goal.

    Stafford’s numbers after the big hit and pick: 7 for 11 passing for 111 of yards – out of the 190 total passing yards he had on the afternoon and out of his 17 for 31 overall passing.

    “It comes from our leader, from number nine,” Nacua said. “The grit – you see him take some of those shots during the game, and the ability to stand back up and still command our offense and lead him in the way he does. When you have number nine in the backfield, a lot of things are going right.”

    Rams head coach Sean McVay postgame joked that maybe they should punch Stafford in the gut right before a game. But on a serious note, McVay also noted how Stafford’s response only reinforced his legacy and reputation.

    “I think the urgency went up, and I think this is one of the things that makes him great, is these types of moments,” McVay said. “You can add it to his legacy and his storied career of these come-from-behind wins, when it looks like the chips are stacked against you and he just finds a way to be able to get the drives.”

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    Rich Eisen@richeisen
    If the Seahawks somehow miss the playoffs, look no further than the LA Rams, who just swept the season series for the 2nd time in 3 years.

    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    We have the opportunity to sweep Seattle and Arizona in back to back weeks. In a rollercoaster of a year, that’s a big win for everyone… except the tanking crowd.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    John Johnson an early appearance in the secondary, rookie Ochaun Mathis on the field at edge among the wrinkles we saw on defense from the Rams coming out of the bye.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    No update yet on Cooper Kupp’s ankle, per Sean McVay. Matthew Stafford saw Kupp in the locker room postgame and indicated he was still going through information-gathering process.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    Matthew Stafford’s first 4th quarter comeback since the Super Bowl, 35th career.

    His second game-winning drive of 2023, 44th career.

    Pretty good stuff after getting cut in half by Mario Edwards late. Didn’t miss a snap.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Celebratory music booming from locker room as Rams celebrate first November win since I believe 2020.

    ILB and captain Ernest Jones said that Sean McVay gave game balls to the defensive captains tonight. “We were able to just keep everybody together. I pride myself on, when these guys get down or start second-guessing themselves, I want to lift them up, ‘hey, you’re still a dog,

    you’re still a baller.’ This game ball means more to me than most, the most that I’ve ever gotten. I’m thankful.”

     

     

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    Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
    The Rams run a long winded trick play… and Stafford gets crushed and throws an interception. Just can’t have plays that last that long unless you’ve got a top tier offensive line

    Rich Eisen@richeisen
    If the Seahawks somehow miss the playoffs, look no further than the LA Rams, who just swept the season series for the 2nd time in 3 years.

    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    We have the opportunity to sweep Seattle and Arizona in back to back weeks. In a rollercoaster of a year, that’s a big win for everyone… except the tanking crowd.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    John Johnson an early appearance in the secondary, rookie Ochaun Mathis on the field at edge among the wrinkles we saw on defense from the Rams coming out of the bye.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    No update yet on Cooper Kupp’s ankle, per Sean McVay. Matthew Stafford saw Kupp in the locker room postgame and indicated he was still going through information-gathering process.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    Matthew Stafford’s first 4th quarter comeback since the Super Bowl, 35th career.

    His second game-winning drive of 2023, 44th career.

    Pretty good stuff after getting cut in half by Mario Edwards late. Didn’t miss a snap.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Celebratory music booming from locker room as Rams celebrate first November win since I believe 2020.

    ILB and captain Ernest Jones said that Sean McVay gave game balls to the defensive captains tonight. “We were able to just keep everybody together. I pride myself on, when these guys get down or start second-guessing themselves, I want to lift them up, ‘hey, you’re still a dog,

    you’re still a baller.’ This game ball means more to me than most, the most that I’ve ever gotten. I’m thankful.”

     

     

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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers Brycen Hopkins, Davis Allen and Hunter Long can surely drop passes and miss in-line blocks, too. Why not let them get the reps at this point?

    Higbee is hurt. He didn’t forget how to play football. But…what is going on?

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    Rodrigue: Rams say they’ll learn from Sunday’s win, so here are some lessons

    By Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/5076294/2023/11/20/rams-win-lessons-learned-sean-mcvay/?source=emp_shared_article

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. — Music boomed and thudded through the Los Angeles locker room just minutes after a missed field goal by Seattle secured the Rams’ fourth win of the season, their first in November since 2020.

    The celebration was tinged with some relief: The Rams scored just 17 points Sunday in their 17-16 effort, another sub-20-point outing for a team averaging only 19.5 points per game (No. 22 in the NFL) under its offensive-minded coach and veteran quarterback.

    “There’s a lot of things that we can learn from, offensively,” coach Sean McVay said. “But it sure feels good to be able to do that after a win.”

    Receiver Cooper Kupp left during the second quarter with an ankle injury and did not return. Kupp stayed out on the sideline in uniform, believing he might be able to come back in. McVay had no update about Kupp’s status.

    In his absence, creativity with other receivers was a necessity (as was their need to step up). Lesson No. 1 of the day, on that side of the ball anyway. On the Rams’ two touchdown drives, there was a four-to-five run-to-pass play balance, and Stafford divvied the ball to four different targets per drive. Now, readers know I am not a strict “equal run-to-pass balance” person, understanding that the offense should also be fluid to capitalize where it sees leverages and advantages. However, the Rams, especially minus Kupp on both drives, needed to keep an expanded play-menu intact. Keeping the Seattle defense accountable for the run, and therefore opening the potential of moving Matthew Stafford’s pocket, was important.

    Non-scoring drives revealed where this roster still has to go. On more than one occasion, including a couple of hits and throwaways, Stafford held the ball while searching for an open receiver and couldn’t always find one. The Rams opened the game with a three-and-out and got no push on the line of scrimmage inside Seattle’s 5-yard line on their second drive of a scoreless first quarter. That was after getting 59 net penalty yards on the drive — only to stall out on fourth-and-2 (a pass play, after three failed runs) instead of imposing physicality in short yardage.

    “You have four (first-half) drives, I believe it was, you end up going three-and-out on two of them, so it’s hard to have any sort of rhythm,” McVay said. “We go right down the field (on the penalty-yards drive), then it wasn’t a really good call on fourth down. There were a couple of previous plays where I thought we could have executed better. So you come away with no points right there. So that’s tough.”

    Offensive line will have to be an area of focus this spring, even after some personnel improvements last offseason. So, too, will receiver (another Kupp injury is a sobering reality, though the seriousness of his current situation isn’t yet known) and running back, though the Rams expect starter Kyren Williams to return from injured reserve next week. A harder topic to mull: Although Stafford reiterated that his still-recovering thumb did not limit what the Rams were able to call Sunday, he also admitted he is not “100 percent” and took a massive shot to the stomach/chest on an underthrown ball that was intercepted in the third quarter. The longer-term health of two of the players the Rams refer to as “weight-bearing walls” is constantly under scrutiny.

    The hit seemed to fuel Stafford, though.

    “I don’t know, I mean, it pissed me off,” he said, chuckling. “I don’t know if I need to take that level of a shot every week to get going.”

    McVay added with a laugh, “Maybe we should punch him in the gut right before games, huh?”

    A 32-yard dig concept to Puka Nacua later in that third quarter, threaded through double coverage that included star linebacker Bobby Wagner, was Stafford’s best throw of the game and helped set up the final go-ahead field goal.

    “No. 9, the best in the world,” Nacua said, laughing. “The ability for him to hang in the pocket and put the ball anywhere.”

    On defense, too, the team says it will keep learning, even in a strong finish. Cornerback Derion Kendrick was a good example Sunday. Kendrick all but lost his starting spot but got back the role because Cobie Durant was inactive Sunday with a shoulder injury. Kendrick had a rough start to the game — he had a penalty and was visibly frustrated with himself for miscommunicating on an assignment that ended up as a crucial second-down conversion on Seattle’s first touchdown drive — but batted down a Drew Lock pass attempt in the fourth quarter, and then intercepted Lock on a deep sideline one-on-one matchup with Tyler Lockett two plays later.

    “I commend Derion,” inside linebacker Ernest Jones said. “He worked himself back into it. He wasn’t a starter at the beginning of the week, but the way he prepared and got himself going, he came out and he executed like we know all year — Derion, a few mistakes here and there. But when it’s time to go play, he’ll rise to the occasion.”

    Seattle extended its opening drives with third- and even fourth-down conversions as the Rams offense couldn’t sustain anything. The Rams defense was on the field for almost 20 minutes in the first half — almost double its offense’s time of possession — but clamped down in the second half, holding the Seahawks to 1-for-8 on third down and just three points while flipping the time of possession advantage.

    McVay gave the defensive captains game balls in the locker room after the win, among them Jones, saying repeatedly that the defense kept the Rams in the game.

    “We were able to just keep everybody together,” said Jones, who led the Rams with 12 tackles, a half-sack and two quarterback hits, cradling his ball under his arm. “I pride myself on, when these guys get down or start second-guessing themselves, I want to lift them up, ‘Hey, you’re still a dog, you’re still a baller.’ This game ball means more to me than most, the most that I’ve ever gotten. I’m thankful.”

    In the second half, the Rams mixed in new ideas on defense — a lesson in adjustments, in thinking outside the box with personnel even with a limited roster.

    The Rams will have to address their cornerback position and sorely need to add pass-rushing help after this season. Midseason, they are working with and developing the guys they’ve got. That means trying new things.

    Instead of bringing a third cornerback in to play the slot/star, they expanded a different sub package to include four safeties, two in hybrid “cover linebacker” roles and two in their usual single- or two-high look. They especially did this on known passing downs (third-and-medium or third-and-long) and had two stops in this look (the Seahawks converted a fourth down after one of them). Safety Russ Yeast also broke up a pass while covering in a hybrid role.

    They also mixed up their pressures, including blitzes and even some funky pre-snap movement along their defensive line, which led to a sack.

    “They were the key to the game,” McVay said of the Rams’ second-half defense. “It’s always a team game, (but) I thought for them not to be affected by some of the things we were struggling with and our offense was struggling with as a whole, they just kept playing. They kept competing. They kept it to a tight game.”

    In a perfect world, the Rams aren’t depending on a missed kick by their opponent to secure a win. But they entered this season knowing they weren’t going to exist in a perfect world, nor with a perfect roster — or even one that is a player or two away.

    They say they have learned a lot in their six losses; they gained a lot to chew on in their fourth win, too.

    “There was a lot of things that didn’t go our way, but they just kept staying the course, they kept just learning from it,” McVay said. “I think learning how to win and learning how to identify those moments where the game pivots and you get a chance to be able to come away with (these) results, you’ve got to learn how to do that. Well, what’s the way to learn? You feel what these feelings feel like.”

    #146877
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    I wanted to open up a thread in here to talk about that sequence that eventually became the game-winning field goal…as you can see, I asked both McVay and Stafford about it (with a focus on the empty set + pass call on second and 7). Here’s what I can tell you from what I gathered, both at press conferences and behind the scenes…
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    So those comments. Both really believed in the call. Strictly from their perspective, I actually get it. The pre-snap formation helped get Puka the exact “iso” matchup McVay and Stafford wanted, when paired with what would be a throw that led Puka with the correct underneath leverage, a play they make all the time. These comments indicate that both McVay and Stafford factored in two specific scenarios: That Nacua, the No. 1 WR at that point when working with a favorable matchup because it didn’t get the DB help/in short space and an underneath throw almost impossible to deflect without drawing a foul or overcommitting. Foul would be beneficial to Rams, a TD would obviously be beneficial (and ideal, based on the alignment and call) and even a drop tackle at the 1 would still have a similar effect as a run play. None of that happened; instead what both indicate as the lowest-probability outcome happened, a PBU that stopped time. So then they run the screen, considered a piece of their run game in this system, because best case it gets a TD worst case it’s still taking time off the clock. Again, speaking from what I believe is THEIR perspective not personally weighing in, I can see both arguments including running/killing clock. Also, no way did McVay believe Smith was coming back in so they were betting on Lock with a large portion of field, at that point (because the third down was planned to kill time!) no time outs and inside the two-min.
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    OK, so again, I totally get this. I ALSO totally get the cries to run it on that second down. In terms of the alignment pre-snap, that’s what helped get the leveraged matchup so IF you’re determined to run that play THEN that is the math alignment.
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    I also wanted to offer a theory, which would not have been responsible to put in the column. I thought back to that four-down sequence earlier in the game, and then these comments about calling the call for the TD. And I’m like, OK…is this McVay being more aggressive? Now, the results don’t necessarily reflect that in a positive way from this game. But the thinking/process itself…he’s openly stating he’s calling for the TD, not just the go-ahead FG. And I’m not trying to put some sort of spin on this, and again I do see both opinions here, simply thinking out loud and thinking that is VERY interesting. Everything he said and then everything I gathered behind the scenes pointed toward: calls may have failed/outcomes weren’t all positive, but the late-down decisions seem to reflect a more aggressive process, which he seemed to double down on publicly postgame.
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    “…. Now, the results don’t necessarily reflect that in a positive way from this game. But the thinking/process itself…he’s openly stating he’s calling for the TD, not just the go-ahead FG. And I’m not trying to put some sort of spin on this, and again I do see both opinions here, simply thinking out loud and thinking that is VERY interesting. Everything he said and then everything I gathered behind the scenes pointed toward: calls may have failed/outcomes weren’t all positive, but the late-down decisions seem to reflect a more aggressive process…”

    I enjoy reading JR as much as any sports-reporter i have come across.   And I’ve been reading sports-reporters since…oh…1969, I’d say.    She’s already in the Pantheon.

     

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    Rams-Seahawks takeaways: Cooper Kupp is injured again; Derion Kendrick recovers

    GARY KLEIN

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2023-11-20/rams-seahawks-takeaways-cooper-kupp-injured-ankle-derion-kendrick-key-interception

    What we learned from the victory that improved the Rams’ record to 4-6:

    It’s been a tough season for the 2021 NFL offensive player of the year. Kupp left the field during the first half because of an ankle injury and did not play in the second half.

    It is the latest setback for the Rams star, who in 2022 suffered a season-ending ankle injury that required surgery.

    Kupp started this season on injured reserve because of a hamstring injury. He returned in Week 5 and caught passes for more than 100 yards in each of his first two games.

    He has struggled since.

    Kupp went into the game against the Seahawks with only eight catches for 98 yards in the previous three games. On Sunday, he had one reception for 11 yards.

    Matthew Stafford still has thumb issues

    Stafford engineered two late-scoring drives to win the game, but the 15th-year pro said he still is not at 100% because of the right thumb sprain suffered against Dallas on Oct. 29.

    Stafford had sat out the last game against the Green Bay Packers.

    “I’m not 100%, but I’m good enough to go out there and make some plays,” he said, adding, “There’s some I missed … that have nothing to do with that.”

    Stafford completed 17 of 31 passes for 190 yards and a touchdown, with an interception.

    Stafford has passed for nine touchdowns this season, with eight interceptions.

    Cornerback Derion Kendrick came up big

    Kendrick, a second-year pro, got his first career interception when he picked off a long pass by Seahawks backup quarterback Drew Lock. The turnover set up what proved to be the game-winning field goal.

    Kendrick, a sixth-round pick in 2022, started six games as a rookie. He made multiple plays on the ball but missed several chances for interceptions.

    This season has been a struggle on and off the field.

    Kendrick faces two misdemeanor gun charges for an October arrest in Hollywood. (His arraignment was postponed to Dec. 5). He briefly lost his starting job the week of the incident, and then lost it again after playing poorly against the Dallas Cowboys, but Kendrick was back in the lineup against the Seahawks.

    He drew an unnecessary roughness penalty in the first quarter, but came back and made the defensive play of the game.

    Lucas Havrisik made a pressure-packed kick

    Havrisik has been with the Rams for just three games, but he did not flinch in his first game-winning opportunity. Havrisik’s 22-yard field goal with 1 minute, 31 seconds left provided the final margin.

    Havrisik has made four of five field-goal attempts since replacing Brett Maher.

    Bobby Brown III, Ernest Jones return with flourish

    Brown came off injured reserve and made an immediate impact. The third-year pro combined with linebacker Ernest Jones to sack Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith in the third quarter.

    It was the first career sack for Brown. Jones returned to the lineup after sitting out against Green Bay because of a knee injury. He recorded a team-best 12 tackles.

    Royce Freeman, Darrell Henderson ran hard

    With Kyren Williams not eligible to return from injured reserve until next Sunday against Arizona, Freeman seized the opportunity and rushed for 73 yards in 17 carries.

    Henderson rushed for a six-yard touchdown and caught four passes for 28 yards.

    Stafford missed a wide-open Henderson on a sideline route that would have resulted in a long gain, possibly a touchdown.

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