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October 26, 2016 at 10:05 pm #56152
znModerator@DailyNewsVinny how did goff look assuming he took first team reps
— justin (@jlewen) October 26, 2016
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) October 26, 2016
FYI: There were a few throws that #Rams QB Jared Goff made today that drew ohhs and ahhs. He was flinging it
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) October 26, 2016
October 26, 2016 at 10:28 pm #56154
InvaderRamModeratorima go out on a limb and say goff starts against carolina…
October 26, 2016 at 11:56 pm #56159znModeratorPractice Report 10/26: Goff Gets Bye Week Reps
Myles Simmons
For every team in the NFL, a normal game week is strenuous and provides only limited on-field opportunities to get work done. There’s no real limit to how much study is done off the field in preparation for an opponent, but practice reps are reserved for those who will play.
Given those parameters, rookie quarterback Jared Goff has gotten fairly limited reps with the first-team offense since the calendar flipped from the preseason to regular season. But with no team to prepare for this week, the Rams’ No. 1 overall pick took the majority of snaps in Wednesday’s practice.
“Jared got a lot of reps, as we talked about,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “I thought he did well.”
“I thought it went well,” Goff said. “I feel tremendously more comfortable than I’ve ever felt. I feel confident that if my number’s called, I’ll be ready to go. Just waiting for that time.”
Fisher said the session consisted of the young quarterback manning numerous different situations.
“He participated in seven-on-seven, then we had a red-zone-move [period], we had a 1st-and-10 run-play-pass period, then we had a pressure period. He handled everything really well — huddle presence and understanding, snap count, Mike-ID’s,” Fisher said. “He was going against our defense — he hadn’t gone against our defense [in our offense] in a while. So I thought he did a nice job.”
As Goff pointed out, however, he has been going against the L.A. defense practically every practice on the scout team.
“It’s the same,” Goff said, downplaying the significance.
What has changed from training camp to Oct. 26 is Goff’s familiarity and confidence with the Rams’ offense. There’s no question he has a higher knowledge base than he did at the end of August.
“I just think with knowledge and reps you get confidence. And that’s with anybody at any sport, any position,” Goff said. “It’s just reps and doing things the right way, you feel better.”
On the whole, Goff described the first half-season of his NFL career as a learning experience.
“I’ve learned a lot and I hope to learn a lot for the rest of my career,” Goff said. “I don’t think this is going to be any different than the rest of my career as far as progressing and always trying to get better. Every day I treat the same, and kind of like it was at Cal — every day I try to go out there, no matter if I was a junior or freshman, and try to get better every day. That’s kind of how I’ll treat the rest of my career.”
As for the question of when Goff may be inserted into the starting lineup, Fisher has made it clear this week he plans to stick with quarterback Case Keenum for now. While as a competitor, Goff would undoubtedly like to be playing, he said he realizes staying on the sideline is part of the process.
“I’m not going to sit here and complain or gripe,” Goff said. “I’m going to support Case and continue to get ready, and be ready, and continue to be confident in myself, and be ready when the time comes.”
But with Goff consistently dressing as the backup signal-caller, it’s clear the No. 1 overall pick is steadily improving.
“He is, he’s a play away — and he knows that,” Fisher said. “If he wasn’t making progress, he’d be a No. 3.”
And should a situation arrive where Goff were to play, Fisher said the club would not have to pare a gameplan down offensively.
“We would not change a thing,” Fisher said. “We wouldn’t scale anything back, we wouldn’t change a thing. He’s got that good of a feel for what we’re doing.”
“I’m confident in myself and confident in what I can do,” Goff said. “I feel like if my number gets called, I’ll be ready. But it’s not up to me to decide when that time is. That’s what coach Fisher and all those other coaches get paid for — is to make those decisions.”
“But, yeah, I’m confident in what I can do,” Goff continued. “I’m confident I’ll be ready when the time comes.”
October 27, 2016 at 12:13 am #56162
ZooeyModeratorThat’s nice. It’s a nice piece, very encouraging. It’s what I want to read.
But I can’t help but be skeptical because it’s also blatant PR spin from top to bottom.
Like this one example:
Simmons: And should a situation arrive where Goff were to play, Fisher said the club would not have to pare a gameplan down offensively.
“We would not change a thing,” Fisher said. “We wouldn’t scale anything back, we wouldn’t change a thing. He’s got that good of a feel for what we’re doing.”
This is a small thing, but no coach would say anything different from this unless he was a newbie idiot coach.
Everybody knows when they are talking to the media that every syllable is going public, and is available to everybody on the planet. Including opposing coaches.
I dunno. I wanna believe all that, but it is CLEARLY a response to the earlier stories that took the negative slant on Goff being overwhelmed. All that is spin. We don’t know anything, and these articles only feed our hopes/fears, not our knowledge.
Last time WE saw Goff, he was looking like a green kid in a preseason game.
Everything since then is column inches.
I’d love to hear from someone we respect. Someone in a position to actually know. But we don’t have that. At least not yet.
October 27, 2016 at 12:20 am #56163ZooeyModeratorJared Goff takes snaps with Rams’ first team but Case Keenum is still the starter
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-20161026-snap-story.html
Jared Goff took a moment before the first play call and slapped hands or bumped fists with teammates in the huddle.
The rookie quarterback was about to start perhaps his most important practice since the Rams selected him No. 1 in the NFL draft.
With the Rams in a bye week, Coach Jeff Fisher on Wednesday had starter Case Keenum step aside and gave Goff a developmental opportunity. The former University of California standout took the majority of first-team snaps for the first time.
It was a chance to show how far he has progressed since training camp — and demonstrate his readiness to play.
Goff did not make any long throws, but he smoothly handled every short and midrange route.
“I feel tremendously more comfortable than I’ve ever felt,” Goff said afterward. “I feel confident that if my number’s called, I’ll be ready to go. Just waiting for that time.”
It is not expected to come anytime soon.
Fisher has said that Keenum remains the starter despite the Rams’ 3-4 record, three-game losing streak and the four Keenum passes that were intercepted in Sunday’s loss to the New York Giants in London.
The Rams don’t play again until Nov. 6, against the Carolina Panthers at the Coliseum.
So Fisher gave Goff an opportunity to work exclusively with the first-team offense.
“Jared looked like Jared,” receiver Tavon Austin said. “It’s just about how comfortable he feels and how he goes from there.”
Said Fisher: “He handled everything really well.”
Second-year pro Sean Mannion, No. 3 on the depth chart, also performed efficiently while taking first-team reps.
But the focus is on Goff, who struggled during exhibition games and has not played a snap during the regular season while other rookie quarterbacks are flourishing.
With the Rams under .500 and showing no real signs that they might finish significantly better than last season’s 7-9 record, the bye week would appear a natural time to groom the top pick for a possible starting role.
Asked to describe his frustration level over not playing, Goff demonstrated a knack for avoiding trouble.
“It’s part of the process part of what’s going on,” he said. “I’m not going to sit here and complain or gripe.
“I’m going to support Case and continue to get ready and be ready and continue to be confident in myself and be ready when the time comes.”
Goff was inactive for the season opener but has been the No. 2 quarterback for the last six games. Asked whether the Rams would anything scheme-wise if Goff were to start, Fisher said no.
“We wouldn’t scale anything back, we wouldn’t change a thing,” he said. “He’s got that good of a feel for what we’re doing.”
Goff, of course, has not even played as backup. But he said he would be prepared if he was the starter and is capable of leading the team.
“I’m confident in myself and confident in what I can do,” he said. “And feel like if my number gets called I’ll be ready.
“But it’s not up to me to decide when that time is. That’s what Coach Fisher and all the coaches get paid for is to make those decisions.”
Wednesday’s workout was the Rams’ last before a four-day break. They will return to Cal Lutheran on Monday.
Fisher said the coaching staff spent the last few days evaluating every player on the roster to determine what must improve as the Rams prepare for the final nine games.
“We have to get the run game going,” he said, “and it all really starts there.”
The Rams must reduce penalties and also shut down or hold opponents to field goals when they penetrate inside the 20-yard line, Fisher said.
Several players are expected to return from injuries after the bye, including defensive tackle Michael Brockers and possibly cornerback Trumaine Johnson. Fisher cited a physically sound roster as reason for optimism.
“You just kind of wonder at some point, this thing is going to get turned around,” he said. “That’s where we are right now, is holding on to hope that the health of this football team, and the experience is going to get it turned around.”
On a day when many younger players got increased opportunities, receiver Paul McRoberts stood out. The practice squad player made several impressive catches. … Some players will stay in Southern California during the break, but many planned to travel out of state to see family or friends. Fisher’s message: “It’s OK to enjoy yourself and have fun. Don’t shut the system down, though, because we’re going to come back and work. Make sure they take care of themselves and be smart, all of those things associated with it. I don’t want any early-morning phone calls, those kind of things. But they know that, they’re pros, they understand.”
Copyright © 2016, Los Angeles Times
October 27, 2016 at 12:36 am #56168znModeratorThis article is incomplete. Follow the link (duh) for the rest. My monthly free access quota at the LA Times page ran out. If however anyone who still has access feels like copying the rest of the article to this thread, I would appreciate it.
And zooey comes through. Thanks zooey. I took out my copy and kept yours.
So, kids, sometimes Uncle Moderator needs help. Like now. If you would go to the liquor store and pick up my special medicine, I would appreciate it. The store owner knows all about it and keeps a special tab. You;ll be fine.
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October 27, 2016 at 1:59 am #56174znModeratorRams staying the course – at QB, and on offensive line
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-733444-offensive-robinson.html
THOUSAND OAKS – Jeff Fisher is not afraid of commitment. Even if that commitment means more of the same issues on the Rams’ struggling offense.
Following the team’s third straight loss Sunday, Fisher reiterated the Rams would stay committed to Case Keenum as starting quarterback, even as the team limped into the bye week, with top overall pick Jared Goff waiting in the wings. Two days later, the embattled coach offered a similar vote of confidence in his offensive line, which, through seven games, has been a glaring weaknesses.
“We’ve got guys that can play and that can back up,” Fisher said Wednesday, during the Rams’ only bye-week practice. “I’ve not given any consideration (to making changes).
Instead, the Rams will stay the course with an offensive line that was supposed to begin jelling this season, after two seasons of strategic construction. In 2014 and 2015, the Rams made a concerted effort to build their line through the draft, using seven of their 20 draft picks on offensive linemen.
But so far, any signs of growth have been lost in a glut of penalties and horrendous run blocking. Earlier this month, the Rams’ offensive line ranked second-to-last in Pro Football Focus’ offensive line grades, and it’s not hard to see from where those issues stem.
They begin in the backfield. Todd Gurley, last year’s offensive rookie of the year, is averaging just 3 yards per carry – 37th among qualifying running backs. A year after Gurley busted 11 runs of 20-plus yards, his longest carry through seven games is just 16 yards.
Fisher has been hesitant to fault the offensive line for issues in the run game. Those up front, however, understand they deserve some of the blame.
“We’re protecting a lot better in the pass game, but in the run game, we’re lacking,” left tackle Greg Robinson said. “We need to get that going. I feel like Todd is at the line and the holes just close. I can’t really explain it.”
Robinson does, however, claim to have an explanation for the litany of flags he’s drawn this season, which have been a major strain on a less-than-explosive Rams offense.
A year after leading all NFL offensive linemen in penalties (16), Robinson is again the most penalized in the league (10) by a margin of three penalties. If he continues at his current pace, Robinson will end the season with more penalties than any NFL offensive linemen since 1999, when NFLPenalties.com began tracking flags.
Robinson blames those calls on a “bad reputation” he earned in his first two seasons. Opposing defensive linemen, he believes, have been throwing their hands up as they rush, in hopes of drawing holding calls.
“(The referees) are looking for anything,” Robinson said.
Even on plays when he isn’t flagged, the third-year left tackle hasn’t shown the progress many hoped he would. He’s not alone in that distinction, though. Right tackle Rob Havenstein has also had a disappointing first half, after an impressive 2015 in which he allowed zero sacks and was never flagged.
As the second overall pick in the 2014 draft, though, Robinson was a significant investment. One in which the Rams are still waiting for a return.
“I feel like I’ve made a lot of strides,” Robinson said. “It’s not perfect. I don’t expect it to be. I can’t be too hard on myself because there are a lot of good things that I see, but the main thing is fixing mistakes and trying my best to really be strict on myself.”
Whether Robinson can make those changes remains to be seen, but the Rams are confident he will. On his radio show, Fisher was asked if a struggling Robinson might shift inside to guard.
He replied by saying he has “no intention” of making any such change. On Wednesday, he offered more confidence in his left tackle.
“Greg is going to be a really good player,” Fisher said.
FIRST-TEAM REPS
Two days after a report suggested the Rams believe top overall pick Jared Goff is still “a long way away” from being ready at quarterback, the rookie backup took most of the first-team reps under center Wednesday.As he denied the report, Fisher suggested that Goff’s place as Keenum’s immediate backup was a sign he’s confident the rookie could step in and play.
Fisher said he was pleased with Goff’s performance Wednesday, and if Keenum were to go down with an injury, he wouldn’t change anything about the Rams’ offensive scheme to cater to Goff.
“He’s a play away, and he knows that,” Fisher said. “If he wasn’t making progress, he’d be a No. 3.”
In a season in which six rookie quarterbacks have started before him, Goff said he’s “tremendously more comfortable” now than he was two months ago.
“I feel confident that if my number is called, I’ll be ready to go,” he said.
October 27, 2016 at 10:20 am #56185
wvParticipantMaybe Fisher planted that newstory about Goff ‘not’ being ready,
because he secretly planned all along on starting him versus Carolina.Or maybe he double-secretly planted that newstory so that Carolina would
think that he planted the story, but really intends to start Goff — only Fisher
really intends to start Keenum.Or maybe he triple-secretly didnt plant the story, but intends to start Mannion.
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vOctober 27, 2016 at 2:15 pm #56198
snowmanParticipantMaybe Fisher planted that newstory about Goff ‘not’ being ready,
because he secretly planned all along on starting him versus Carolina.Or maybe he double-secretly planted that newstory so that Carolina would
think that he planted the story, but really intends to start Goff — only Fisher
really intends to start Keenum.Or maybe he triple-secretly didnt plant the story, but intends to start Mannion.
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vOr a bye week trade for Bradford.
October 27, 2016 at 3:32 pm #56199
joemadParticipantRams remaining schedule with current defensive rank:
Carolina 24
Jets 16
Miami 22
Saints 29
NE 14
ATL 26
Sea 6
SF 30
Cards 2Rams need to go 6-3 to finish 9-7.
if they finish 9-7 the Detroit and Giants game may bite them in the ass from making the playoffs. 2 conference games that they clearly should’ve won…..
October 27, 2016 at 3:51 pm #56200znModeratorRams remaining schedule with current defensive rank:
Carolina 24
Jets 16
Miami 22
Saints 29
NE 14
ATL 26
Sea 6
SF 30
Cards 2Rams need to go 6-3 to finish 9-7.
if they finish 9-7 the Detroit and Giants game may bite them in the ass from making the playoffs. 2 conference games that they clearly should’ve won…..
if the defense holds up they can win at least 8 of those games…the 9th being new england
October 27, 2016 at 4:03 pm #56202ZooeyModeratorif the defense holds up they can win at least 8 of those games…the 9th being new england
They can, but I don’t think there is any reason to think they will.
They can also lose 8 of those games.
I’m going out on a limb with a prediction of 5-4 the rest of the way.
October 27, 2016 at 6:44 pm #56204wvParticipantif the defense holds up they can win at least 8 of those games…the 9th being new england
They can, but I don’t think there is any reason to think they will.
They can also lose 8 of those games.
I’m going out on a limb with a prediction of 5-4 the rest of the way.
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I just take’em one game at a time, myself.
Yall need to learn yer football cliches better.
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vOctober 27, 2016 at 7:26 pm #56205znModeratorSee I know what all this means.
Kroenke forced Fisher to take Goff because Kroenke knew all of the following: Fisher will not start Goff until late in the season and then will claim that because they are winning with a rookie qb Kroenke can’t fire him.
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October 28, 2016 at 4:29 pm #56255znModeratorSteve Wyche
LOS ANGELES RAMS: Goff getting ready to go. Rams coach Jeff Fisher has planned for a while to get rookie quarterback Jared Goff more reps during the Week 8 bye. Publicly, he’s said that this was a great opportunity to get him more work for a day or two because starter Case Keenum has a handle on the offense and doesn’t need the extra time.
However, after the Rams dropped three straight games, why wouldn’t they give those reps back to Keenum and an offense that was not on the same page in a loss to the Giants in London? The answer: The Rams are getting Goff ready.
From everything that I have been told, Goff has made progress in terms of learning the offense. As for executing it? That is still unknown.
I’ve also been told by people with the Rams that they would have felt fine putting him on the field should Keenum have been injured. Of course, they really had no choice. If coaches were to opt for Sean Mannion instead of Goff to step in for Keenum, that would show they might have missed on Goff with the No. 1 overall pick — at least in the short term.
Keenum absolutely is not the main reason that the Rams have fallen to 3-4. He is the most obviously replaceable part, though. If L.A. loses to Carolina in Week 9 to fall to 3-5, it will be time to make the switch.
Yes, the Rams play three of their next five on the road, but whatever the scenario, they have to get Goff going. If he struggles, will the team be that much worse? If he succeeds, it can be better.
October 28, 2016 at 4:41 pm #56259wvParticipantSee I know what all this means.
Kroenke forced Fisher to take Goff because Kroenke knew all of the following: Fisher will not start Goff until late in the season and then will claim that because they are winning with a rookie qb Kroenke can’t fire him.
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Ok, but what if Kroenke is a bust? What then?
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vOctober 28, 2016 at 4:57 pm #56262znModeratorSee I know what all this means.
Kroenke forced Fisher to take Goff because Kroenke knew all of the following: Fisher will not start Goff until late in the season and then will claim that because they are winning with a rookie qb Kroenke can’t fire him.
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Ok, but what if Kroenke is a bust? What then?
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vGoff will be forced to cut him.
Same old Rams. Very weak at owner development.
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