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Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton’s emails
No way he gets out of this one. He’s just committed political suicide.
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I don’t think he’s toast Billy. Had it been done in secret that would be one thing but to do it in a public proclamation only supports his uncontrollable mouth. Unfortunately, there are so many people who actually think that is so brazen its cool. Its the “I don’t give a shit about what anyone thinks” that people in this country want and admire and believe we need this kind of attitude in the White House. I know these people. There is a HUGE anti-intellectualism that is about to take over this country. People want tough talking, aggressive, individualism and don’t want to listen to elite intellectuals who describe stuff in complicated sentences. We want simplicity like Fox news presents us.
What is the most popular TV? Sunday professional football especially the SB. What are the most frequent commercials? Tough trucks with extremely low voiced narration. Next-reality TV where there is an in your face edginess. We are a country of cowboys. Fuck the intellectuals.
Add to all this is the non educated white males that simply do not like smart, tough (ironic isn’t it), aggressive, individual, successful women and you have a witches brew.
I’ve become the very thing I dislike in so many-a cynic. Scary stuff out there Billy.
Oh God. Can’t we get off the Hillary issue and focus on how to beat a man who IMO will be dangerous not only to us but to our children and our grand kids. I don’t know how many on this board actually have children and grand children but if you do can’t you see what kind of world this idiot can and will shape for them. If you don’t have children then I suppose it really doesn’t matter and you can continue to pontificate all you want on Hillary. But for me it’s no longer about Hillary-its about the future-and for me that’s about my grandchildren who I love very much and worry about a world they will grow up into should this dangerous demagogue become President.
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Come on. No one needs to have children to care about other human beings, the planet or future generations, deeply, profoundly.
Sheesh.
Oh God. Can’t we get off the Hillary issue and focus on how to beat a man who IMO will be dangerous not only to us but to our children and our grand kids. I don’t know how many on this board actually have children and grand children but if you do can’t you see what kind of world this idiot can and will shape for them. If you don’t have children then I suppose it really doesn’t matter and you can continue to pontificate all you want on Hillary. But for me it’s no longer about Hillary-its about the future-and for me that’s about my grandchildren who I love very much and worry about a world they will grow up into should this dangerous demagogue become President.
Waterfield,
Tell me–how do you SELL Hillary?
How?
How do you sell her to a truck driver who has been listening to Rush Limbaugh most of the day, or to a blue collar guy worried about horrible trade deals who doesn’t trust her on the TPP when she says that she’ll not support it “as is” and which Trump jumps on and rightly says that she can change a comma and suddenly support it? When her buddy Terry Macauliffe says she will pass it when elected? When she picks a VP supporter of it? How do you convince someone she is sincere?
How do you blast Trump for encouraging hackers when the answer you get is that she exposed classified emails? What argument do you use?
How do you sell someone who had to be “pushed” to the left?
How do you sell the ultimate insider in an anti-establishment year?
How do you erase all the negative stories that have been pounded into people’s heads whether true or not?
How do you speak about the corruption at Trump University when the Clinton Foundation has its own problems?
This election should have been a slam dunk.
She may still win it because…well…Trump.
But it did not have to be this way. It didn’t have to be this hard. The establishment insisted that it was HER turn. The Clinton “cultists” who bow at the feet of all things Clinton and who missed out with Obama shocking them were determined not to lose again. No matter what. And even then, Bernie gave them headaches. The political atmosphere was screaming that she was the wrong candidate–especially THIS year. But that was ignored because come hell or high water this party was going to push her through. She was going to get HER turn.
And they DID it!!!! She won!!!!
But the primary is over. What good is it if she can’t win the general election? That is the goal–right? Because it feels more like Hillary was the goal.
So what now? It isn’t just Democrats now. It’s independents–you know–the one the party is trashing for ruining Hillary’s coronation. It’s some Republicans(and how many of those can she really get?). And yes–it IS Democrats too–ones who may even reluctantly push the button for her but who have to be motivated to show for that.
How do we sell her?
What will get those votes? And when we’re selling her do we really believe it? Because if you don’t believe it the person you’re selling it to won’t believe it.
On a personal note–I keep coming back to going to bed election night and feeling as though I helped Trump win if I DON’T vote for her. And yes–living in Pennsylvania that’s a big deal.
If I lived in California I’d vote Jill Stein and sleep like a baby.
So this sucks. But yes–I’ll again vote the lesser of two evils–and I’m not even sure how much less. I’m just guessing.
But I won’t sell her. I can’t. When someone scribbles something about her on a newspaper at work about how everyone voting for her is an idiot and so on, I can’t argue with a guy over why HE needs to consider her over Trump. That’s a hard sell.
SHE has to figure it out. SHE has to make people believe–or, more likely she’ll just have to scare the hell out of them with Trump.
They should have picked a better candidate. If not Bernie–fine. But not her. It’s very risky this year. And before you get into qualifications vs. Trump and so on–remember–most people don’t read political biographies or political articles or political books. They see memes on Facebook, they catch some CNN or Fox News or hear talk radio during the day–and that’s about all the effort you’ll get.
The “professional class” that is the DNC will not decide the election. It will be the “blue collar” class. She has work to do.
But I will end on an optimistic note for you.
I think she will somehow pull this off. I don’t have any reason to think that other than Trump has no shot at the minority vote, and women will go big for her. Will white males be enough for Trump? That’s the question.
Stay tuned.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
Trump’s Mussolini impersonation at his acceptance speech pretty much clinched it for me. I am holding my nose and voting for her. Again, it’s bad vs. horrible. This time, horrible is scarier than ever. His news conference yesterday just gives you a glimpse into the insanity that would be a Trump presidency. I mean, what a mess. I understand people wanting a candidate who isn’t beholden to the political elite. But, this guy? You trust this guy? His track record screams, “I care about me, and only me!” Then again, that type of “survival of the fittest” persona is what speaks to many Republicans. Hell, President The Donald I could tear down every positive government program ever, and he’d be cheered by his supporters. I wouldn’t put anything past him. Clinton is self-serving, too, but at least she has some policy plans that could help.
Sad. We could be talking about real issues that affect real people. Instead, we’re talking about whether to elect a Tire Fire over a Career Politician.
I disagree. A parent or grandparent does have skin in the game. For decades you make sacrifices and plans for your childrens benefit that go far beyond whatever a non-parent ever conceives.
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Well there are plenty of ‘parents’ who abuse and neglect their ‘skin in the game’.
And conversely there are plenty of non-parents who ‘love their neighbors’ and commit
there lives to doing social work and caring for other life forms, both human and animal, etc.So, personally, i dont buy the “parents” care more about the world
than nonparents. Its a mixed bag. Always has been.On the trump statement….I think Trump supporters will evaluate it as Trump being a bit humorous, shooting from the hip, just slamming Hillary, no big deal.
The pro-Hillary crowd will be all ‘outraged’…and the undecideds….will it matter to them?I dunno. My gut feeling is, George Will was right to point to the fact Americans dont elect ‘angry’ presidents. Now maybe things have changed in America, but it looks to me, like Hillary is the next President. We shall see.
Its all up the Undecideds-in-the-Swing-States. Noone else matters now.
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