Trump Fights Racism yet the Leftists Lie and Cry Racism

Money is not fictional. Money has intrinsic value. Federal Reserve Notes are not money and are quite fictional. Printing the $1 bill costs just as much as printing the $100 bill.

What do you mean by “money” then? It’s currency. And no currency has any intrinsic value other than what humans agree to. As in, it’s a fiction we agree to. Well, at least the rich and powerful agree to this, and then we go along with that.

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Better trade deals. Bringing money back from abroad to create jobs here in the US. I’ve answered this many times.

Come on, bnw. Even you have to admit that’s incredibly vague. What exactly does “better trade deals” mean? Specifically? And how will Trump bring money back here from abroad? Details, please. And what policy would he implement to turn that money into jobs?

Seriously, you haven’t answered this. Nor has Trump. He’s far, far too vague about everything.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 4 months ago by Billy_T.

bnw wrote:

Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

BS. Trump employs common sense not emotion.

Even if that is true, it is irrelevant.

Racism is about policy, not “feelings.”

And his policy proposals are racist. Clearly. Emphatically.

Wrong again. His proposals are common sense. Keep beating that racist drum. But it isn’t effective. People want solutions to problems.

bnw,

I feel sorry for his supporters. Trump has never given you any plans, just bumper sticker slogans and word salad. He’s given you so little to go on, all you can do when asked to describe his policies is to say something incredibly vague like “better trade deals.” That’s the extent of his policy. No details whatsoever. No specifics whatsoever. No actual plans. Just meaningless phrases he keeps repeating.

You must be seriously frustrated with the emptiness of his rhetoric, though you hide it well here. No government, no corporation, no non-profit organization, could possibly function on so little direction. He gives you nothing but the weakest of generalities and platitudes and asks you to trust him.

Oh, well. To each their own.

bnw,

It should be obvious. Just look what I quoted. You say unemployment is low. You believe the unemployment data. I don’t. When people compare it to other times it means nothing since the methodology was changed. Thats why I use Shadow Stats to get as close to an apple to apple stat as possible.

The ShadowStats Alternate Unemployment Rate for May 2016 is 23.0%

I missed this comment the first time through.

The part in bold. No. The methodology hasn’t really changed, though the data collection has gotten better, and they look at U1 – U6 now. They’ve been using the Current Population Survey (CPS) method since 1940, when it was first instituted as a part of FDR’s WPA programs. Which is why I said if you compare apples to apples, it’s a very low unemployment figure. Far from perfect, and the government says as much. It’s an estimate, one that does let a lot of people slip through the cracks, especially those who have given up looking for work after a certain period of time.

From Wiki:

The Bureau of Labor Statistics measures employment and unemployment (of those over 15 years of age) using two different labor force surveys[35] conducted by the United States Census Bureau (within the United States Department of Commerce) and/or the Bureau of Labor Statistics (within the United States Department of Labor) that gather employment statistics monthly. The Current Population Survey (CPS), or “Household Survey”, conducts a survey based on a sample of 60,000 households. This Survey measures the unemployment rate based on the ILO definition.[36]

The Current Employment Statistics survey (CES), or “Payroll Survey”, conducts a survey based on a sample of 160,000 businesses and government agencies that represent 400,000 individual employers.[37] This survey measures only civilian nonagricultural employment; thus, it does not calculate an unemployment rate, and it differs from the ILO unemployment rate definition. These two sources have different classification criteria, and usually produce differing results. Additional data are also available from the government, such as the unemployment insurance weekly claims report available from the Office of Workforce Security, within the U.S. Department of Labor Employment & Training Administration.[38] The Bureau of Labor Statistics provides up-to-date numbers via a PDF linked here.[39] The BLS also provides a readable concise current Employment Situation Summary, updated monthly.[40]
U1–U6 since 1950, as reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics

The Bureau of Labor Statistics also calculates six alternate measures of unemployment, U1 through U6, that measure different aspects of unemployment:[41]

• This reply was modified 8 years, 4 months ago by Billy_T.

So, yes. It’s just an estimate, and flawed as are all estimates. And, yes, it under-counts unemployment. But those shadowstats radically exaggerate that under-counting, and they, themselves, are subject to “bias” and a good bit of paranoia to boot. I haven’t investigated their methodology — which I don’t see on their site — but it looks like they consider retired people and students as a part of that under-count, which obviously shouldn’t be the case.

Bottom line for me? Yes, unemployment is a problem. We should have zero. They’re shouldn’t be any. It should be a government guarantee, under our system, that anyone who wants a job gets a job — again, by right. And, by right, everyone should at least make a living wage. No one who works should need government supplements to eat or seek medical care or stay out of tent cities. The pay itself should be sufficient to meet all necessities.

Does Trump address any of that? No. He’s actually said Americans are paid too much. And he’s never supported “living wage” legislation or guaranteed full employment. He wants to leave everything up to “the markets” which means capitalists, and that means high unemployment always, because it’s in ownership’s best interest to maintain that huge army of the unemployed. That scenario guarantees workers have no leverage and will take the crap they’re handed, year after year after year.

Trump has no answers for any of this. Just word salad and bluster.