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August 14, 2016 at 7:57 am #50802wvParticipant
Good article, I thot.
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“….My leftist friends persuaded themselves that this stuff didn’t really matter, that Clinton’s many concessions to Sanders’ supporters were permanent concessions. But with the convention over and the struggle with Sanders behind her, headlines show Clinton triangulating to the right, scooping up the dollars and the endorsement, and the elites shaken loose in the great Republican wreck.She is reaching out to the foreign policy establishment and the neocons. She is reaching out to Republican office-holders. She is reaching out to Silicon Valley. And, of course, she is reaching out to Wall Street. In her big speech in Michigan on Thursday she cast herself as the candidate who could bring bickering groups together and win policy victories through really comprehensive convenings….” see link
August 14, 2016 at 8:03 pm #50841wvParticipantI forget if this has been posted, but Matt Taibbi is damn funny.
“….Were they serious? In an age when Donald Trump is a presidential nominee, what does “serious” even mean? In any case, the cybercomics who fanned the flames of the Cruz-Zodiac meme will someday be first-ballot entrants in the Trolling Hall of Fame.
Finally, on the morning of the Indiana primary, Cruz woke up to hear opponent Trump babbling that Cruz’s own father had been hanging out with Lee Harvey Oswald before the assassination of John F. Kennedy, a bizarre take on a ridiculous National Enquirer story that Trump, of course, believed instantly. Trump brought this up on Fox and Friends, which let him run the ball all the way to the end zone. “I mean, what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald, shortly before the death – before the shooting?” Trump asked. “It’s horrible.”
American politics had never seen anything like this: a presidential candidate derided as a haggardly masturbating incarnation of Satan, the son of a presidential assassin’s accomplice, and himself an infamous uncaptured serial killer….. see link
August 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm #50848znModeratorI forget if this has been posted, but Matt Taibbi is damn funny.
This avalanche of verbose disgust on the part of conservative intellectuals toward the Trump voter, who until very recently was the Republican voter, tells us everything we need to know about what actually happened in 2016.
There never was any real connection between the George Wills, Andrew Sullivans and David Brookses and the gun-toting, Jesus-loving ex-middle-class voters they claimed to embrace. All those intellectuals ever did for Middle America was cook up a sales pitch designed to get them to vote for politicians who would instantly betray them to business interests eager to ship their jobs off to China and India. The most successful trick was linking the corporate mantra of profit without responsibility to the concept of individual liberty.
Into the heartland were sent wave after wave of politicians, each more strident and freedom-y than the last. They arrived draped in the flag, spewed patriotic bromides about God, guns and small-town values, and pledged to give the liberals hell and bring the pride back.
Then they went off to Washington and year after year did absolutely squat for their constituents. They were excellent at securing corporate tax holidays and tax cuts for the rich, but they almost never returned to voter country with jobs in hand. Instead, they brought an ever-increasing list of villains responsible for the lack of work: communists, bra-burning feminists, black “race hustlers,” climate-change activists, Muslims, Hollywood, horned owls…
By the Tea Party era, their candidates were forced to point fingers at their own political establishment for votes, since after so many years of bitter economic decline, that was the only story they could still believably sell.August 14, 2016 at 11:32 pm #50854wvParticipantI forget if this has been posted, but Matt Taibbi is damn funny.
This avalanche of verbose disgust on the part of conservative intellectuals toward the Trump voter, who until very recently was the Republican voter, tells us everything we need to know about what actually happened in 2016.
There never was any real connection between the George Wills, Andrew Sullivans and David Brookses and the gun-toting, Jesus-loving ex-middle-class voters they claimed to embrace. All those intellectuals ever did for Middle America was cook up a sales pitch designed to get them to vote for politicians who would instantly betray them to business interests eager to ship their jobs off to China and India. The most successful trick was linking the corporate mantra of profit without responsibility to the concept of individual liberty.
Into the heartland were sent wave after wave of politicians, each more strident and freedom-y than the last. They arrived draped in the flag, spewed patriotic bromides about God, guns and small-town values, and pledged to give the liberals hell and bring the pride back.
Then they went off to Washington and year after year did absolutely squat for their constituents. They were excellent at securing corporate tax holidays and tax cuts for the rich, but they almost never returned to voter country with jobs in hand. Instead, they brought an ever-increasing list of villains responsible for the lack of work: communists, bra-burning feminists, black “race hustlers,” climate-change activists, Muslims, Hollywood, horned owls…
By the Tea Party era, their candidates were forced to point fingers at their own political establishment for votes, since after so many years of bitter economic decline, that was the only story they could still believably sell.———————-
Yeah, the article is full of verbal-gems like that.
Taibbi is insightful and entertaining. Kindof a smarter
version of Hunter Thompson.w
vAugust 15, 2016 at 2:09 pm #50879ZooeyModeratorMatt Taibbi is the very best.
Coupla bits I liked:
If this isn’t the end for the Republican Party, it’ll be a shame. They dominated American political life for 50 years and were never anything but monsters. They bred in their voters the incredible attitude that Republicans were the only people within our borders who raised children, loved their country, died in battle or paid taxes. They even sullied the word “American” by insisting they were the only real ones. They preferred Lubbock to Paris, and their idea of an intellectual was Newt Gingrich. Their leaders, from Ralph Reed to Bill Frist to Tom DeLay to Rick Santorum to Romney and Ryan, were an interminable assembly line of shrieking, witch-hunting celibates, all with the same haircut – the kind of people who thought Iran-Contra was nothing, but would grind the affairs of state to a halt over a blow job or Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube.
And this:
This avalanche of verbose disgust on the part of conservative intellectuals toward the Trump voter, who until very recently was the Republican voter, tells us everything we need to know about what actually happened in 2016.
I agree with Taibbi that the key to the Trump revolt is the fact that Republicans have been promising that they care about Main Street and its values for 40 years, and when elected, they do nothing to fulfill those promises. It isn’t just the heartland, though. It’s the 80 million evangelicals who have gone to the effort of putting planks on anti-abortion and gay “rehabilitation” into the platform. No way in hell are they ever going to have those promises delivered on by the Republican establishment that has been promising all that forever.
And I sure do love it whenever anyone mocks George Will and/or Andrew Sullivan. I can never get enough of that.
August 15, 2016 at 10:47 pm #50911bnwBlockedBill Frist is or was a republican leader? What a joke.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
August 16, 2016 at 12:59 am #50921ZooeyModeratorBill Frist is or was a republican leader? What a joke.
Your evident dislike of Frist doesn’t alter reality. He was Senate Majority Leader of the Republicans which kind of makes him fall under the category of Republican leader.
August 16, 2016 at 9:08 am #50937Billy_TParticipantThanks for those articles.
That’s a pretty good one-two punch. Frank and Taibbi. Two voices that the public should pay attention to. They’re pretty much always incisive, and they both have wit to go with their wisdom.
But I think they fall short in this way: They don’t take the logical next step, given their own evaluation of the state of the state. IMO, what they’ve both been writing about for decades should lead them both to say “Hell no, capitalism has to go.” Especially Taibbi and his vampire squid, etc. etc.
This is a very, very tough move for most Americans, even those who are really excellent at seeing what ails us. Saying no to capitalism seems to be that bridge too far, even for them. It’s too ingrained in our cultural transmissions, like the idea of American exceptionalism and its underlying myth of Manifest Destiny. It’s like “capitalism” is written into that destiny, even though it wasn’t dominant here until after the Civil War.
Well, at least they aren’t blindly cheering it on, as the ruling class’s useful idiots do. That includes Trump and Clinton, of course.
August 16, 2016 at 9:34 am #50938PA RamParticipantI’ve been a fan of both writers for years.
But you don’t see them very much on the boob-tube. There you will find the same useless talking heads week after week.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
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