This really happened: Jimmy Kimmel, Alex Jones & pickles.

Hildabeast lied again and she was caught. Kimmel is the useful idiot.

Wow. It was a joke on a late night TV show. Nobody cares anything about it except right-wing conspiracy theorists.

Dak wrote:

Wow. It was a joke on a late night TV show. Nobody cares anything about it except right-wing conspiracy theorists.

Is it still a joke when people are fired and Google was caught scrubbing results for searches on Hildabeast’s health? This is just the latest scrubbing of results from Google for Hildabeast. The search results were scrubbed for queries on “media coverage of the Clinton Foundation” and “Clinton Foundation” and “Clinton AP story” and “Clinton Crimes” too. More limey BS with Google’s auto-fill function too. Yes a conspiracy that is fact.

Is Google Censoring Negative Clinton Foundation Coverage?

zn, Please change my first sentence in my latest post to “That is ridiculously naive.” I am unable to use the edit function since there is a pic over the options. Thanks. (This message was in chat too.)

bnw wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Have you ever had difficulty opening a jar?

If so, you know it has nothing to do with physical fitness.

Opening a jar, or being unable to open a jar, is without question the poorest test for the presidency I have ever heard of.

Yet it was the test the Hildabeast campaign chose to fix in her favor to address the issue of her health.

You know it was on the Jimmy Kimmel Show, right? This wasn’t a press conference where Hillary came out to demonstrate her fitness for the presidency with a feat of strength. I can’t believe you take this seriously. It. Was. A. Joke.

I don’t know that “mentally ill” is the correct term. I have not read a lot about psychology. I always wanted to take a class in college, but never got around to it. But I think mental illness as a category is likely to cover medical issues rather than “craziness.” Stuff like depression, bi-polar disorders, chemical imbalances, and the like.

In reading about narcissism, I came across “schema therapy,” an approach to “maladaptive” schemas. These are ways of interpreting the world in a defective and unhealthy way. Dr. Jeffrey Young has identified 18 of these, and I think these are a better explanation for these world views than the concept of mental illness.

Here they are:

Early Maladaptive Schemas

1. ABANDONMENT / INSTABILITY (AB)

The perceived instability or unreliability of those available for support and connection.
Involves the sense that significant others will not be able to continue providing emotional support, connection, strength, or practical protection because they are emotionally unstable and unpredictable (e.g., angry outbursts), unreliable, or erratically present; because they will die imminently; or because they will abandon the patient in favor of someone better.

2. MISTRUST / ABUSE (MA)

The expectation that others will hurt, abuse, humiliate, cheat, lie, manipulate, or take advantage. Usually involves the perception that the harm is intentional or the result of unjustified and extreme negligence. May include the sense that one always ends up being cheated relative to others or “getting the short end of the stick.”

3. EMOTIONAL DEPRIVATION (ED)

Expectation that one’s desire for a normal degree of emotional support will not be adequately met by others. The three major forms of deprivation are:
A. Deprivation of Nurturance: Absence of attention, affection, warmth, or companionship.
B. Deprivation of Empathy: Absence of understanding, listening, self-disclosure, or mutual sharing of feelings from others.
C. Deprivation of Protection: Absence of strength, direction, or guidance from others.

4. DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME (DS)

The feeling that one is defective, bad, unwanted, inferior, or invalid in important respects; or that one would be unlovable to significant others if exposed. May involve hypersensitivity to criticism, rejection, and blame; self-consciousness, comparisons, and insecurity around others; or a sense of shame regarding one’s perceived flaws. These flaws may be private (e.g., selfishness, angry impulses, unacceptable sexual desires) or public (e.g., undesirable physical appearance, social awkwardness).

5. SOCIAL ISOLATION / ALIENATION (SI)

The feeling that one is isolated from the rest of the world, different from other people, and/or not part of any group or community.

6. DEPENDENCE / INCOMPETENCE (DI)

Belief that one is unable to handle one’s everyday responsibilities in a competent manner, without considerable help from others (e.g., take care of oneself, solve daily problems, exercise good judgment, tackle new tasks, make good decisions). Often presents as helplessness.

7. VULNERABILITY TO HARM OR ILLNESS (VH)

Exaggerated fear that imminent catastrophe will strike at any time and that one will be unable to prevent it. Fears focus on one or more of the following: (A) Medical Catastrophes: e.g., heart attacks, AIDS; (B) Emotional Catastrophes: e.g., going crazy; (C): External Catastrophes: e.g., elevators collapsing, victimized by criminals, airplane crashes, earthquakes.

8. ENMESHMENT / UNDEVELOPED SELF (EM)

Excessive emotional involvement and closeness with one or more significant others (often parents), at the expense of full individuation or normal social development. Often involves the belief that at least one of the enmeshed individuals cannot survive or be happy without the constant support of the other. May also include feelings of being smothered by, or fused with, others OR insufficient individual identity. Often experienced as a feeling of emptiness and floundering, having no direction, or in extreme cases questioning one’s existence.

9. FAILURE TO ACHIEVE (FA)

The belief that one has failed, will inevitably fail, or is fundamentally inadequate relative to one’s peers, in areas of achievement (school, career, sports, etc.). Often involves beliefs that one is stupid, inept, untalented, ignorant, lower in status, less successful than others, etc.

10. ENTITLEMENT / GRANDIOSITY (ET)

The belief that one is superior to other people; entitled to special rights and privileges; or not bound by the rules of reciprocity that guide normal social interaction. Often involves insistence that one should be able to do or have whatever one wants, regardless of what is realistic, what others consider reasonable, or the cost to others; OR an exaggerated focus on superiority (e.g., being among the most successful, famous, wealthy) — in order to achieve power or control (not primarily for attention or approval). Sometimes includes excessive competitiveness toward, or domination of, others: asserting one’s power, forcing one’s point of view, or controlling the behavior of others in line with one’s own desires—without empathy or concern for others’ needs or feelings.

11. INSUFFICIENT SELF-CONTROL / SELF-DISCIPLINE (IS)

Pervasive difficulty or refusal to exercise sufficient self-control and frustration tolerance to achieve one’s personal goals, or to restrain the excessive expression of one’s emotions and impulses. In its milder form, patient presents with an exaggerated emphasis on discomfort-avoidance: avoiding pain, conflict, confrontation, responsibility, or overexertion—at the expense of personal fulfillment, commitment, or integrity.

12. SUBJUGATION (SB)

Excessive surrendering of control to others because one feels coerced – – usually to avoid anger, retaliation, or abandonment. The two major forms of subjugation are:
A. Subjugation of Needs: Suppression of one’s preferences, decisions, and desires.
B. Subjugation of Emotions: Suppression of emotional expression, especially anger.
Usually involves the perception that one’s own desires, opinions, and feelings are not valid or important to others. Frequently presents as excessive compliance, combined with hypersensitivity to feeling trapped. Generally leads to a build up of anger, manifested in maladaptive symptoms (e.g., passive-aggressive behavior, uncontrolled outbursts of temper, psychosomatic symptoms, withdrawal of affection, “acting out”, substance abuse).

13. SELF-SACRIFICE (SS)

Excessive focus on voluntarily meeting the needs of others in daily situations, at the expense of one’s own gratification. The most common reasons are: to prevent causing pain to others; to avoid guilt from feeling selfish; or to maintain the connection with others perceived as needy . Often results from an acute sensitivity to the pain of others. Sometimes leads to a sense that one’s own needs are not being adequately met and to resentment of those who are taken care of. (Overlaps with concept of codependency.)

14. APPROVAL-SEEKING / RECOGNITION-SEEKING (AS)

Excessive emphasis on gaining approval, recognition, or attention from other people, or fitting in, at the expense of developing a secure and true sense of self. One’s sense of esteem is dependent primarily on the reactions of others rather than on one’s own natural inclinations. Sometimes includes an overemphasis on status, appearance, social acceptance, money, or achievement — as means of gaining approval, admiration, or attention (not primarily for power or control). Frequently results in major life decisions that are inauthentic or unsatisfying; or in hypersensitivity to rejection.

15. NEGATIVITY / PESSIMISM (NP)

A pervasive, lifelong focus on the negative aspects of life (pain, death, loss, disappointment, conflict, guilt, resentment, unsolved problems, potential mistakes, betrayal, things that could go wrong, etc.) while minimizing or neglecting the positive or optimistic aspects. Usually includes an exaggerated expectation– in a wide range of work, financial, or interpersonal situations — that things will eventually go seriously wrong, or that aspects of one’s life that seem to be going well will ultimately fall apart. Usually involves an inordinate fear of making mistakes that might lead to: financial collapse, loss, humiliation, or being trapped in a bad situation. Because potential negative outcomes are exaggerated, these patients are frequently characterized by chronic worry, vigilance, complaining, or indecision.

16. EMOTIONAL INHIBITION (EI)

The excessive inhibition of spontaneous action, feeling, or communication — usually to avoid disapproval by others, feelings of shame, or losing control of one’s impulses. The most common areas of inhibition involve: (a) inhibition of anger & aggression; (b) inhibition of positive impulses (e.g., joy, affection, sexual excitement, play); (c) difficulty expressing vulnerability or communicating freely about one’s feelings, needs, etc.; or (d) excessive emphasis on rationality while disregarding emotions.

17. UNRELENTING STANDARDS / HYPERCRITICALNESS (US)

The underlying belief that one must strive to meet very high internalized standards of behavior and performance, usually to avoid criticism. Typically results in feelings of pressure or difficulty slowing down; and in hypercriticalness toward oneself and others. Must involve significant impairment in: pleasure, relaxation, health, self-esteem, sense of accomplishment, or satisfying relationships.
Unrelenting standards typically present as: (a) perfectionism, inordinate attention to detail, or an underestimate of how good one’s own performance is relative to the norm; (b) rigid rules and “shoulds” in many areas of life, including unrealistically high moral, ethical, cultural, or religious precepts; or (c) preoccupation with time and efficiency, so that more can be accomplished.

18. PUNITIVENESS (PU)

The belief that people should be harshly punished for making mistakes. Involves the tendency to be angry, intolerant, punitive, and impatient with those people (including oneself) who do not meet one’s expectations or standards. Usually includes difficulty forgiving mistakes in oneself or others, because of a reluctance to consider extenuating circumstances, allow for human imperfection, or empathize with feelings.

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As for what leads to this increase in maladaption, I would suggest that a lot of it may stem from the way our society has morphed since the industrial revolution. We are atomizing. We don’t live in molecular societies the way we used to. I have no data to back this up at all, but I would wager you would find greater mental health overall in more primitive communities than in more modern ones. Technology has greased the skids for increasing social isolation even as it presents the appearance of opening up greater social opportunities. I don’t know. But the alt right is troubling precisely because of the sincerity of their beliefs, and their unwillingness or inability to step out of maladaptive schemas.

Billy_T wrote:

when it comes to the rise of mental illness. And the likely culprit, IMO, is pollution of all kinds. We are awash in air, water and land pollution, and the things we eat all too often are filled with serious hazards — known and unknown to those who make and sell them.
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…That, and the usual PTSD of living in dangerous environments . . . . The human animal wasn’t meant for that. It was meant to leave those areas for greener pastures. We just don’t have the internal defenses for daily, toxic levels of stress and pollution.

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Yeah, I dunno, but that is what i suspect. At least those are significant factors
in the big complex ball of factors.

But like i say, I dunno. I do know that in West, by god, Virginia, mental illness and serious drug addiction are just going through the roof. Its exploded here in this Red-state.

There are damn few West Virginians here, who are not-crazy, and/or not-addicted.

I talked to four indigent-defendants today who were diagnosed with this, btw, fwiw:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_explosive_disorder

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