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March 29, 2025 at 12:06 pm #155718
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ModeratorPFF: 2025 NFL Draft: Grading each position by talent
The draft is bursting with defensive line talent: The group’s impressive mix of top-end talent and depth will help NFL teams seeking a boost to their front.
One of the best running back classes in a decade: The football world is well aware of the prolific back — Ashton Jeanty — atop this year’s crop of talented rushers, but he’s just a piece of one of the most talented running back classes in more than a decade.
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The 2025 NFL Draft is just a few short weeks away, a huge opportunity for NFL teams to upgrade their rosters. Some teams will be looking to draft the best players available regardless of position, while others will have acute needs that they will look to tick off with their first selections.Not every position group is as flush with talent as others. Let’s take stock of which positions are brimming with potential NFL star power and which may be lacking.
Quarterback: C-
Draft pundits largely agree that Cam Ward is this year’s top signal-caller and will likely be the first-overall selection, yet there’s a prevailing sentiment that Ward could have fallen between the range of the fourth and fifth quarterbacks taken in the 2024 NFL Draft. While last year’s class was unreasonably strong at quarterback, it does help bring this group into perspective.
Beyond Ward, Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders has garnered a reputation as a talented passer who can manage an offense to a high degree. Some pushback has arisen regarding his polarizing personality, but it’s more the limited athleticism and lack of an elite arm that has hindered his draft stock. Still, some here at PFF believe he should be considered the top quarterback prospect in this year’s class.
Further down the board, we see a myriad of passers with varying skill sets who haven’t moved the needle much during the pre-draft process. But some believe Jaxson Dart also possesses traits to build upon that could warrant a first-round selection after he finished as the top-graded passer in several of PFF’s quarterback metrics.
Running Back: A+
The football world is well aware of the prolific back atop this year’s crop of talented rushers — Ashton Jeanty — but he’s just a piece of one of the most talented running back classes in more than a decade.
With Jeanty undoubtedly slated to come off the board in the first 15 or so picks, the class features excellent talent and depth behind him. Omarion Hampton is the next name to know as one of the most physically gifted backs in the nation, possessing tremendous size, explosiveness and strength to warrant a potential first-round selection.
As Day 2 approaches, the level of talent fall-off is minimal, with Cam Skattebo, Quinshon Judkins, TreVeyon Henderson and Dylan Sampson profiling as high-upside options on the ground. And even further down the board, there are talented backs to fit virtually any role an offense may require.
Wide Receiver: B-
With strength at the top, key contributors throughout the first round and plenty of depth through Day 2, the receiver class has a solid spread of varying talents.
The prevailing sentiment throughout the pre-draft process is that Travis Hunter won’t play both sides of the ball full time, which could come at the expense of his snap share at receiver. But with Tetairoa McMillan standing as PFF’s third-ranked prospect and Luther Burden III, Emeka Egbuka and Matthew Golden in the top 25, there is no shortage of receiving prospects to amplify a unit out of the gate.
Further down the board, we still see some quality prospects ranging from Senior Bowl standout Jack Bech to Tre Harris and even Tez Johnson and Tory Horton. That variety should allow teams to target quality depth options deep into the fourth round.
Tight End: B
Although we’ve seen some highly sought-after tight ends go early in recent drafts, it remains noteworthy every time a prospect at the position reaches into the top-10 range. Tyler Warren profiles as that name this year, slated as PFF’s eighth-ranked prospect in the 2025 class, with the potential to shape any offense he lands in.
Along with Warren in the first-round conversation stands Colston Loveland, who may lack some density to play inline consistently, but possesses great range and length as a pass catcher with natural hands.
The class isn’t as strong as others but still boasts some quality talent on Day 2, such as Elijah Arroyo and Mason Taylor, who may not profile as impact weapons but could become more established options as they develop.
Offensive Tackle: B-
This may be the most difficult group to tag a letter grade to in the 2025 NFL Draft class. While four tackles currently have first-round grades on PFF’s big board, the prevailing sentiment among draft evaluators is that many of them project better on the interior at the pro level.
Issues with changes to the measurement process at the NFL Combine have left many scouts with mixed data — and significantly affected the stock of Will Campbell, PFF’s top-ranked offensive line prospect, after his length measurements came in lower than what’s typically acceptable by NFL standards. Some here at PFF even believe his talents and football IQ would be better suited at center.
Length concerns also follow Kelvin Banks Jr., who could shift inside. Armand Membou may profile as the safest pick up front after showcasing stellar athleticism during NFL Combine workouts, but he profiles as a right tackle, given his experience. That leaves Josh Simmons as perhaps the only true first-round prospect at left tackle, and he is coming off a serious ACL injury.
Interior Offensive Line: C
In a vacuum, without any tackle converts, this year’s interior class is lacking. However, should many of the names listed above shift inside, this group takes on an entirely different shape.
FCS standout Grey Zabel is without a doubt converting inside following the extensive looks he received at guard and center during the pre-draft process, and he would profile as the lone first-round-caliber player, as PFF’s 29th-ranked prospect.
Further down the board, just three names of note are among the top 100 prospects, with Tyler Booker slating as the only true guard to land in the top 50. Georgia’s Jared Wilson and Tate Ratledge land in the Day 2 range but also carry concerns.
Edge Defender: A+
With a good mix of top-end talent and depth littered throughout, edge rusher is undoubtedly the strongest group in the 2025 NFL Draft class. According to PFF’s big board, seven edge defenders land in the first-round conversation, headlined by Penn State’s Abdul Carter — the second-ranked prospect in the class.
Mike Green, James Pearce Jr. and Donovan Ezeiruaku all slot into the top 20 on PFF’s big board, with Mykel Williams, Shemar Stewart and Nic Scourton following close behind.
Day 2 features no shortage of talent, including NFL Combine sensation Landon Jackson and pivotal national championship contributors JT Tuimoloau and Jack Sawyer.
Interior Defensive Line: A-
The defensive interior is similarly stacked with prospects, featuring both top-end talent and mid-round depth.
At the top stands a pair of Michigan defensive tackles in Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant. Graham ranks well above his peers, currently slotted as a top-five prospect. The first-round conversation also features Walter Nolen, Derrick Harmon and Darius Alexander.
There will be significant talent on Day 2, as well, with 14 interior defenders landing among PFF’s top 80 prospects. The last time that many interior defenders were featured in the top 100 picks was in 2016, a class in which Chris Jones was selected in the second round.
Linebacker: D-
The growing consensus around the 2025 NFL Draft class continues to paint the linebacker position as perhaps the weakest group. Of the top prospects at the position, only a few players move the needle, with just Jihaad Campbell slotting into the top 25 prospects.
There are very few noteworthy names falling further down the board. Georgia’s Jalon Walker has evaluators split, with some projecting him as a linebacker while others expect him to move to the edge early in his career to maximize his pass-rushing potential.
As we look further down the board, only Demetrius Knight Jr., Carson Schwesinger and Chris Paul Jr. land in the top 100 prospects on PFF’s big board.
Cornerback: C
The cornerback talent in this year’s class is largely situated at the top of the order. Travis Hunter, a generational talent, leads the group with phenomenal metrics to match excellent mirroring ability and elite ball skills.
Jahdae Barron and Will Johnson both feature at the top of the position, as well, ranking in the top 15 on PFF’s big board. Barron profiles as a versatile coverage player with excellent zone instincts. Johnson can slot into a defense on either side while shadowing WR1s with a good understanding of leverages.
The next cornerback prospect on the board doesn’t feature until the 40s, where we see names like combine standout Maxwell Hairston, Trey Amos and Shavon Revel.
Safety: C-
While I initially slotted this group much lower, with only Malaki Starks possessing a first-round grade on PFF’s big board, some of the safety talent is underrated.
Outside of the top 32, we see names like Xavier Watts, who could sneak into the first round, and NFL Combine standout Nick Emmanwori, a raw talent with pure athleticism but questionable technique. Both bring upside with question marks.
Lathan Ransom and Andrew Mukuba are solid players, but the real reason this group received a grading bump is Kevin Winston Jr. PFF’s Max Chadwick has Winston as a first-round talent if healthy, as the Penn State safety profiles as perhaps the best tackler of the bunch.
March 29, 2025 at 12:07 pm #155719zn
Moderator“I think that Travis Hunter is going to be a full time corner and a package receiver in the NFL.”@GregCosell on the Heisman Trophy winner: pic.twitter.com/LGRcIMzbvQ
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) March 29, 2025
March 29, 2025 at 12:53 pm #155720zn
ModeratorPete Prisco@PriscoCBS
This draft is loaded with players from No. 19-70 who will be good players. It only has a few sure-fire stars. Trading down makes sense.March 30, 2025 at 4:05 pm #155723InvaderRam
ModeratorPete Prisco@PriscoCBS
This draft is loaded with players from No. 19-70 who will be good players. It only has a few sure-fire stars. Trading down makes sense.more and more i’m wanting this. and i’d like to see them draft a linebacker like schwesinger. get him in the second round and then draft defensive backs. at some point draft a tight end and another receiver. draft another running back.
it’s either that or trade up into the first half of the first round and draft an impact player.
March 30, 2025 at 5:34 pm #155724canadaram
ParticipantThe only person I have noticed who has a different take on Hunter than Cosell is Chris Simms. He is all in on Hunter being a receiver first.
March 31, 2025 at 5:29 am #155728zn
ModeratorESPN NFL Analyst Mina Kimes and former PFF NFL analyst Sam Monson will dip and weave throughout their draft analysis of every NFL team….
Perhaps one of the earliest takeaways from their analysis is the fact that they view the Rams ‘needs’ as limited to an inside linebacker (to pair with starting ILB Omar Speights) and a cornerback. They also mention some choices the team could address in the draft at tight end, quarterback, and offensive tackle,
Sam Monson chimes in with the oxymoron nature of the Rams drafting an inside linebacker. The Rams have been viewed as a team in need of an inside linebacker in almost every season led by HC Sean McVay. The only linebacker drafted by the team was former South Carolina ILB prospect Ernest Jones IV, who competed for the Rams for three of his first four seasons.
March 31, 2025 at 5:54 pm #155733zn
ModeratorLance Zierlein@LanceZierlein
I just finished my mock 3.0 … and I can safely say that since the 2015 draft, this might be the toughest year to piece together where players could go. Very wide variances for some players.March 31, 2025 at 10:32 pm #155730canadaram
Participantfrom https://ramblinfan.com/2-nfl-experts-dissect-rams-draft-needs-and-project-rams-draft-strategy-01jqhn49ybqw
The only linebacker drafted by the team was former South Carolina ILB prospect Ernest Jones IV, who competed for the Rams for three of his first four seasons.Yeah, I will be surprised if the Rams pick a LB early in the draft. Even if Jihaad Campbell lasts until when the Rams pick, I just don’t see the rams breaking trend and going LB early. Picking Jones in the third round seems like an outlier at this point.
April 1, 2025 at 10:18 am #155741zn
ModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothers
The last time the Rams had back-to-back 1st round picks in consecutive years? Todd Gurley and Jared Goff.Les Snead was on the @heykayadams show yesterday and hinted at trading back into the pick 33-36 range (early round 2). Seems like the most likely outcome.
April 1, 2025 at 12:16 pm #155744zn
Moderatorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2025/4/1/24397979/rams-2025-draft-needs-les-snead
Once the draft gets past picks 20, the value between the 20th overall pick and the 60th overall pick are generally seen as the same.
As noted by ESPN’s Matt Miller,
“There are four, maybe five, blue-chip players,” one NFL general manager said. “After that, it’s 40 guys with a late-first-round or second-round grade.” Scouts view the 2025 class as light on future All-Pros but strong on starters. “You’re going to see a ton of rookie starters from this class because it’s such an experienced group,” an AFC South area scout said. Though the class appears to lack high-end, can’t-miss prospects seen as future stars it has fewer players ranked high based purely on potential. As an AFC East area scout put it: “Player No. 15 on your board might have the same grade as No. 50.”
April 1, 2025 at 7:31 pm #155747InvaderRam
ModeratorLes Snead was on the @heykayadams show yesterday and hinted at trading back into the pick 33-36 range (early round 2). Seems like the most likely outcome.
but what does that mean?
April 1, 2025 at 9:48 pm #155748zn
ModeratorLes Snead was on the @heykayadams show yesterday and hinted at trading back into the pick 33-36 range (early round 2). Seems like the most likely outcome.
but what does that mean?
I think it means that in a deep draft full of good but more or less equally graded players, your better bet is to get more of them.
April 1, 2025 at 10:09 pm #155749InvaderRam
ModeratorI think it means that in a deep draft full of good but more or less equally graded players, your better bet is to get more of them.
i was joking. as in does that really mean the rams try to trade up? i do think they trade down, but i could also see the rams trade up to get the impact player in the top 15. i don’t think they will. but just when i think i got them figured out, they do something different.
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April 2, 2025 at 1:25 pm #155753zn
ModeratorThis year's running back class is considered the deepest pool of draft prospects in years. Check out the top 10, according to @eric_d_williams.https://t.co/k8RTUJCqbV
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) April 1, 2025
April 2, 2025 at 9:13 pm #155755zn
ModeratorThis year’s running back class is considered the deepest pool of draft prospects in years.
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April 3, 2025 at 8:59 am #155759zn
ModeratorLos Angeles Rams NFL Draft 2025 guide: Picks, predictions and key needs
By Jourdan Rodrigue
A season after a surprise run to the playoffs that ended in a wild-card loss, the Rams won the NFC West and lost to the eventual Super Bowl-champion Eagles in the divisional round in 2024. Matthew Stafford is returning in 2025 after his representatives were given permission to explore a trade. Meanwhile, the young defensive line has quickly become a team strength. That’s put the Rams in position to compete for another division title and you know McVay and company would love to find themselves in Super Bowl contention after winning the 2021 championship.
Scouting the decision-makers
Last draft, the Rams made a first-round selection for the first time since 2016 when picking outside linebacker Jared Verse — the 2024 Defensive Rookie of the Year. This year, it would hardly be a surprise to see GM Les Snead trade back from No. 26 to stockpile more picks, especially a second-rounder given up to trade up for Braden Fiske last year (he was a finalist for DROY).
Rams’ key free-agent signings
• WR Davante Adams: Two years, $46 million
• DT Poona Ford: Three years, up to $29.6 million
• C Coleman Shelton: Two years, $12 millionRams’ key positions of need
Cornerback: The Rams re-signed Ahkello Witherspoon to a one-year deal and Cobie Durant, who has played nickel and outside corner, enters the final year on his rookie contract. The Rams need to look at this position group in the draft with veteran starter Darious Williams on the second year of a three-year deal.
Inside linebacker: Omar Speights really progressed through the latter part of the year and if he takes another step forward he could secure that full-time ILB1 spot. They added Nate Landman in free agency after Christian Rozeboom and Jake Hummel left in free agency and will likely still look to the draft here.
Right tackle: Starting right tackle and team captain Rob Havenstein will be back in 2025, and playing on the final year of his contract. The Rams need to identify the heir to his position.
Tight end: McVay’s background with the tight end position, his efforts to trade up for Brock Bowers last draft and that Tyler Higbee will play on the final year of his contract in 2025 mean this talented young class can’t be ruled out. It’s tough to predict especially where the top tight ends in this draft class will be drafted because there simply is not a ton of precedent for the position having massive success in the first round. The Rams may look at the second and third rounds here.
Receiver: Yes, the Rams added Davante Adams in free agency and yes, they have Puka Nacua, who has 2,476 receiving yards in his first two seasons. But McVay and the Rams have a way of finding exceptional receivers beyond Round 1 (Nacua, fifth round in 2023; Cooper Kupp, third round in 2017). Jordan Whittington (sixth round in 2024) could take on a bigger role in 2025.
April 3, 2025 at 10:10 am #155761canadaram
ParticipantI will be interested to see what happens with QB. I’m glad that they took Verse last year, but I would’ve been fine had they traded up for Penix or Nix. There needs to be some succession plan for Stafford. I kinda think the market for Jaxson Dart will start with the Steelers at pick 21 and run through to pick 25. Not that I expect any of the teams currently picking between the Steelers and Rams to pick a qb, but if none of the Browns, Giants or Raiders pick a QB in the first round, it wouldn’t surprise me to see one of them trade up in front of the Rams if there is any inkling that the Rams might go qb there.
Of course, this is assuming that Sanders doesn’t drop like some pundits have suggested.
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April 3, 2025 at 11:24 am #155763zn
Moderatorwill be interested to see what happens with QB. I’m glad that they took Verse last year, but I would’ve been fine had they traded up for Penix or Nix. There needs to be some succession plan for Stafford. I kinda think the market for Jaxson Dart will start with the Steelers at pick 21 and run through to pick 25. Not that I expect any of the teams currently picking between the Steelers and Rams to pick a qb, but if none of the Browns, Giants or Raiders pick a QB in the first round, it wouldn’t surprise me to see one of them trade up in front of the Rams if there is any inkling that the Rams might go qb there.
Of course, this is assuming that Sanders doesn’t drop like some pundits have suggested.
I appreciate your thoughts on this.
Mine are considerably less well-informed or detail-based.
I just think that if they keep drafting the way they have been since 2023, then they will score some players no matter what they do. QB probably being the chanciest, but then that comes with the territory.
This is a good draft to go a lot of different ways and act opportunistically depending on how things fall out on draft day (ie who gets picked before them, who will trade with them so they can move up or down).
They nailed free agency I thought and therefore are in a great position to find and make the most out of draft day opportunities.
Lots of room to maneuver and different things they can do.
In 2024 they were stuck in a “draft for need” situation because they needed an edge, period. And…they picked the DROY at 19.
Now the “need” issue is less pressing. They have a deck full of wild cards and could go any number of different directions and do well no matter what. In alphabetical order: CB? DL(in a DL rich draft)? OL? QB? TE? WR?
Looking back, it’s like 97 and 98 v. 99. They had things they needed in 97/98. In 99, after the Faulk trade and signing Green, they were pretty well set. They didn’t NEED Holt, but there he was.
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April 3, 2025 at 12:02 pm #155764Zooey
ModeratorI have no idea what this means, but Jourdan does.
Relevant! 👇
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social) 2025-04-03T15:33:42.287Z
April 3, 2025 at 1:00 pm #155766canadaram
ParticipantI appreciate your thoughts on this.
Mine are considerably less well-informed or detail-based.
I just think that if they keep drafting the way they have been since 2023, then they will score some players no matter what they do. QB probably being the chanciest, but then that comes with the territory.
do well no matter what. In alphabetical order: CB? DL(in a DL rich draft)? OL? QB? TE? WR?…
All good points.
The success of the last several drafts and udfas has certainly helped ease my sense of concern about the future at qb just a tad, or at least it has me feeling optimistic for as long as Stafford is willing and able. I definitely don’t feel like whoever they take with their first pick needs to step in and start from day one, regardless of what position they play. A nice position to be in.
April 3, 2025 at 5:03 pm #155768wv
ParticipantRams need a QB for the future. I assume they arent going to get a chance to pick Tyler Shough, but I like his potential. He probly wont drop further than mid-2nd round or so, though.
Would be fun to see what Mcvay would do with the great running qb, Jalen Milroe. I think he runs a 4.3 or somethin like that. Lamar Jackson type.
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vApril 5, 2025 at 11:31 am #155781InvaderRam
Moderatori really like this guy. schwesinger. i’d be cool with the rams trading down and picking this guy. he’d complete the front seven. didn’t run the 40 but his short shuttle was in the 4.2’s. his 3 cone was about 7.00. 10’7″ broad to go with a 39″ vert at the combine. explosive athlete. looked great in drills according to observers. can defend the run and pass.
April 5, 2025 at 6:21 pm #155786zn
Moderatori really like this guy. schwesinger.
from Daniel Jeremiah’s top 50: 2025 NFL Draft prospect rankings 4.0 … https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2025-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-4-0
Rank: 44
Carson Schwesinger
UCLA · LB · JuniorSchwesinger is an ultra-instinctive linebacker with range and cover ability. Against the run, he is quick to key/diagnose. He is adept at beating blockers to spots, dipping underneath and avoiding them with quickness. He struggles to free himself when he’s forced to engage blocks. He has outstanding lateral range, and while he lacks thump, he’s a reliable tackler. He is smooth and fluid in coverage and has the agility to mirror/match tight ends and running backs. I love his play speed and energy. He chases plays all over the field. Overall, Schwesinger isn’t the most imposing figure, but he’s going to rack up production because of his blend of speed and instincts.
April 8, 2025 at 2:59 pm #155810zn
Moderator“I was told by someone in the know that he wouldn't be surprised if there were 20 tackles taken in the first three rounds.”@GregCosell on the latest @RossTuckerPod: pic.twitter.com/esBSGD6AuX
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) April 8, 2025
April 9, 2025 at 12:43 pm #155816zn
Moderator“It may be the most talented running back class from top to bottom we've EVER seen.”@McShay13 with a strong take about the 2025 NFL Draft: pic.twitter.com/5o7qK4yrhC
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) April 9, 2025
April 10, 2025 at 9:25 am #155821zn
Moderator“26 edge and interior guys is the most we've ever had in the draft in the last 30 years…I've got 35 guys that could go in the first three rounds.”@McShay13 on the EPIC defensive line depth in this year’s draft class: pic.twitter.com/ZIdzMGftmc
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) April 10, 2025
April 10, 2025 at 12:12 pm #155824zn
ModeratorThe Rams have met with three quarterbacks so far. That is a significant investment of effort if the team plans on pooh-poohing addressing the successor to starting quarterback Matthew Stafford. And it simply makes no sense.
The Rams are savvy enough to realize their best gambit over a rookie quarterback is to add one while Stafford is still at his best. The Rams view Stafford on a year-by-year basis. So why would the team not get a rookie to learn from him now?
I understand that the team’s three picks in the first three rounds will have more immediate impacts to focus on non-quarterback rookies. But the team invested the 83rd overall pick in rookie running back Blake Corum in Round 3 of the 2024 NFL Draft, and he contributed just 58 carries and 207 rushing yards. That’s not worth writing home over. Per ESPN’s Matt Miller, the Rams are shopping for offensive tackle, cornerback and linebacker in this draft.
Perhaps cornerback will be addressed in the first three rounds. Based on the Rams recent draft history, I doubt that the team will do so for the linebacker position. And the team may select an offensive tackle, but he will set on the bench for a year as well.
I see the Rams quest for a talented tight end as unrequited still, and that the abundance of tight ends in the 2025 NFL Draft will simply be too much to resist. The team lost TE Hunter Long in the offseason. I expect a rookie tight end will join the team no later than Day 2.
April 12, 2025 at 6:22 pm #155833Zooey
ModeratorThe Rams have met with three quarterbacks so far.
According to CBS, these are the only players the Rams have brought in for meetings (out of 30 possible meetings):
April 12, 2025 at 6:53 pm #155834Zooey
ModeratorAnd, yes, Isaiah Bond is the guy with the recent sexual assault warramt.
April 12, 2025 at 7:29 pm #155835zn
ModeratorThe Rams have met with three quarterbacks so far.
According to CBS, these are the only players the Rams have brought in for meetings (out of 30 possible meetings):
? I’ve seen longer lists than that…I think?
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