The coup attempt was much worse than we thought.

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  • June 29, 2022 at 10:01 am #139466
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    White House aide testifies Trump sent armed mob to Capitol

    Revelations from yesterday’s hearing tell us that things were far, far worse than we had known previously. That the mob was armed with AR-15s, Glocks, and other deadly weapons. That Trump was furious about the magnetometers keeping some of his rioters from getting to the Capitol, that he knew they were armed, etc. Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony, plus audio of the police, connect the dots for us.

    Trump wanted to lead a heavily armed mob into the Capitol to finish the coup himself. Does anyone believe that if they had gotten into that building, armed with assault-style weaponry, there wouldn’t have been mass slaughter there? Dozens and dozens of congresspersons, staff, and the VP would all have been at risk of death.

     

    June 29, 2022 at 10:03 am #139467
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    I could have linked to all kinds of different sources, but found one that wasn’t behind a pay-wall. As you guys know, fewer and fewer newspapers are open-access these days.

    June 29, 2022 at 10:45 am #139471
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    I think the security guys will testify differently than reported by Hutchinson.

    June 29, 2022 at 12:46 pm #139472
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    waterfield wrote:

    I think the security guys will testify differently than reported by Hutchinson.

     

    Only on minor details, Waterfield. Hutchinson relayed what she had been told about Trump in the car, lunging at the driver’s throat, after being told they would not take him to the Capitol to lead his rioters. The spokesman for the Secret Service did not dispute that Trump was irate when told he couldn’t go. They just dispute the allegation that Trump lunged for the driver, etc. That he was irate isn’t in question.

    But, again, that’s a minor detail. What matters is the siting of heavily armed men near the Capitol, some in the trees, with “Don’t Tread on Me” flags above them. What matters is many of the “protesters” had to give up their weaponry at checkpoints with the magnetometers, but not everyone went through them. Trump’s anger at the existence of those checkpoints with “mags” is key too. He was pissed that his mob was disarmed to an extent, and that the Secret Service would not take him to the Capitol to lead that mob.

    June 29, 2022 at 6:19 pm #139474
    waterfield
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    Yeah-and I wondered what the heck he would have done had his security followed his orders and dropped him off with those marching on the Capital.  Would he have been so stupid as to actually go into the building with the protestors ? Come to think of it-maybe all of mankind would be better off if they had driven him there-the final nail in his coffin.

    June 30, 2022 at 11:02 am #139479
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    Waterfield,

     

    Looks like there’s been some pushback to the pushback. Hutchinson relayed, under oath, what she had been told by Tony Ornato, a Trump loyalist with a rather sketchy background. He’s the person who now says the incident didn’t happen as described. Apparently, Trump broke with all protocol by hiring Ornato away from the Secret Service as a political appointee, while he somehow remained with the Secret Service. A couple of people who worked with Ornato have recently come out saying he lied about what they said too.

    From Olivia Troye’s twitter page. She quotes another Trump admin person who says Ornato lied about her.

    I think Hutchinson told the truth. All of it.

    June 30, 2022 at 11:37 am #139482
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    The whole scenario seemed so far out there that it was hard for me to believe. Trump grabbing the steering wheel and then attempting to choke the driver. Oh my ! Like a scene out of Cheech and Chong.  In any event I do believe Hutchinson’s report of “being told” by Ornato that he was told by the driver of the described scene. Then again in a court of law we’re dealing with multiple hearsays. And proper objections are made for the very reason this is now playing out.  In any event I doubt Hutchinson lied under oath.

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