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March 12, 2025 at 5:07 pm #155470
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ModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Rams designated Kupp as a post-June 1 cut, which means they’ll get $15M in cap space this year when the calendar flips to JuneDead cap charges of $14.78M in 2025 and $7.48M in 2026
March 12, 2025 at 5:25 pm #155471wv
ParticipantDoes any of that change if another team signs kupp?
And if Kupp signs with the 49ers can felony charges be filed?
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vMarch 12, 2025 at 8:41 pm #155472zn
ModeratorDoes any of that change if another team signs kupp?
And if Kupp signs with the 49ers can felony charges be filed?
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vIn terms of the money, no. He;s a June 1 cut so on June 1 the Rams subtract 15 M from the cap. Nothing alters, whether he signs with someone or not. That’s my understanding.
If he signs with SF, according to an obscure clause in a contract with the Football Gods, that city will face a 3 consecutive days storm where minnows from the bay rain down on its streets.
March 12, 2025 at 9:03 pm #155474Zooey
ModeratorI know you guys have always hated Kupp, but I think he has enough integrity, to say nothing of personal pride, to steer clear of the 49ers.
March 12, 2025 at 9:09 pm #155475RamsMaineiac
KeymasterSo I am trying to reconcile this:
“Kupp is set to earn $20MM in 2025, made up of $12.5MM in base salary and a $7.5MM 90-man roster bonus due on March 17, per OverTheCap. $5MM of that roster bonus became fully guaranteed in 2024.”
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/02/rams-willing-to-eat-money-in-kupp-tradeand
“Kupp’s contract calls for him to receive a $7.5 million roster bonus on the 5th day of the league year. $5 million of that roster bonus is guaranteed and is subject to offsets. Kupp would certainly sign a contract that pays more than $5 million in 2025 and the Rams would get their full amount back.”
As I read this, if Kupp signs a contract exceeding $5MM, the Rams get that money back?
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March 12, 2025 at 9:12 pm #155477RamsMaineiac
KeymasterAnd beyond the cap, and the financial side of this, so disappointed it had to end this way for Kupp and the Rams. Set expectations too high after that super crazy year.
March 12, 2025 at 9:31 pm #155479RamsMaineiac
KeymasterAlso, how different these Rams are going to look in 2027. These are the players that the Rams have today, who will still be under contract in 2027, with their 2027 cap number. We are certainly looking at a two year window, do or die with this team.
- Rob Havenstein ($0)
- Alaric Jackson ($24,425,000)
- Poona Ford ($11,083,334)
- Jared Verse ($4,815,474)
- Braden Fiske ($2,994,130)
- Blake Corum ($1,833,924)
- Kamren Kinchens ($1,780,645)
- Brennan Jackson ($1,272,342)
- Tyler Davis ($1,235,638)
- Joshua Karty ($1,224,597)
- Jordan Whittington ($1,224,597)
- Beaux Limmer ($1,224,597)
- K.T. Leveston ($1,210,184)
March 12, 2025 at 9:53 pm #155480zn
ModeratorAs I read this, if Kupp signs a contract exceeding $5MM, the Rams get that money back?
Could be. As usual this time of year, cap discussions are haunted by shadow.
March 12, 2025 at 10:53 pm #155481Zooey
ModeratorAnd beyond the cap, and the financial side of this, so disappointed it had to end this way for Kupp and the Rams. Set expectations too high after that super crazy year.
Every Rams fan will remember Cooper Kupp fondly. And what a brief tandem he was with Nacua.
I think back on the GSOT, and the way Bruce and Holt were just lasers who would just get open, make the catch, and dive to avoid contact. And fans of other teams mocked them for that, and I didn’t care. Why take a lick just to make it 16 yards instead of 15 when they were going to get 15 on the next play, too?
But watching Kupp for years, and then Nacua, turn that extra yard into 7 extra yards again and again…well…I liked that, too. And Kupp was unstoppable, and he got open, made tough catches, broke away, got those extra yards. He was the man. I will always wonder if the Rams beat the Pats in the Super Bowl if he wasn’t out. What would the Rams’ and Goff’s storyline have looked like if that happened?
You gotta wonder if all that physical play took a toll on him. 8 years isn’t a long career for a WR. And Kupp was one of the best. And I just gotta believe that he’s basically done. I dunno. Maybe it’s just that his skills duplicate Nacua’s, and Nacua is a lot cheaper and younger. Maybe McVay just doesn’t need two guys like that, and he thinks he can light up the league with a different assortment of WRs, and that’s that. I hope Kupp goes to the Steelers or Broncos or somebody I don’t care about, so that I can wish him well.
March 12, 2025 at 11:06 pm #155484zn
ModeratorAnd beyond the cap, and the financial side of this, so disappointed it had to end this way for Kupp and the Rams. Set expectations too high after that super crazy year.
Every Rams fan will remember Cooper Kupp fondly. And what a brief tandem he was with Nacua.
I think back on the GSOT, and the way Bruce and Holt were just lasers who would just get open, make the catch, and dive to avoid contact. And fans of other teams mocked them for that, and I didn’t care. Why take a lick just to make it 16 yards instead of 15 when they were going to get 15 on the next play, too?
But watching Kupp for years, and then Nacua, turn that extra yard into 7 extra yards again and again…well…I liked that, too. And Kupp was unstoppable, and he got open, made tough catches, broke away, got those extra yards. He was the man. I will always wonder if the Rams beat the Pats in the Super Bowl if he wasn’t out. What would the Rams’ and Goff’s storyline have looked like if that happened?
You gotta wonder if all that physical play took a toll on him. 8 years isn’t a long career for a WR. And Kupp was one of the best. And I just gotta believe that he’s basically done. I dunno. Maybe it’s just that his skills duplicate Nacua’s, and Nacua is a lot cheaper and younger. Maybe McVay just doesn’t need two guys like that, and he thinks he can light up the league with a different assortment of WRs, and that’s that. I hope Kupp goes to the Steelers and Broncos or somebody I don’t care about, so that I can wish him well.
March 13, 2025 at 12:53 am #155486zn
ModeratorCooper Kupp’s Top Plays From His Rams Career
March 13, 2025 at 12:06 pm #155491Zooey
ModeratorAs Cooper Kupp’s difficult Rams ending intersects with new beginnings, a team goal is clear
INGLEWOOD, CALIFORNIA – DECEMBER 08: Puka Nacua #17 and Cooper Kupp #10 of the Los Angeles Rams look on during the second quarter of a game against the Buffalo Bills at SoFi Stadium on December 08, 2024 in Inglewood, California. (Photo by Harry How/Getty Images)
By Jourdan Rodrigue
21Mar. 13, 2025Updated 3:24 am PDT
LOS ANGELES — Endings stink.They can be especially difficult in the NFL, where the rare fairytale — player walks into the sunset of retirement after a championship, on his terms and with his preferred team — happens every so often, enough to believe it’s possible.
More often, it doesn’t. More often, an ending is a hard thing. A one-sided thing, as Los Angeles Rams longtime star receiver Cooper Kupp has made clear over the last several weeks as the team worked with his representatives to first trade him, then ultimately released him Wednesday as the new league year began.
Kupp believes he can still contribute to an offense at a high level. Rams coach Sean McVay wants to rebuild his passing game through third-year star Puka Nacua. In free agency this week, the team sought perimeter and speed threats to complement Nacua, nabbing top-tier veteran receiver Davante Adams and extending homegrown receiver Tutu Atwell. It’s likely the Rams look to the draft, too.
Kupp has been the subject of trade conversations for months, so while this ending is difficult, it also felt inevitable. Only Kupp, though, could thread the needle as a catalyst for the team in his arrival as a third-round draft pick in 2017 and his exit.
In spring 2017, McVay started his first offseason program as a head coach. The Rams, led by McVay’s vision for his offense, leaned toward tight ends and fullbacks in the draft (Gerald Everett, who was supposed to join Tyler Higbee in a 12 personnel-heavy scheme and Sam Rogers). Yet Kupp impressed the coach immediately as OTAs began.
As McVay and then-offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur installed the offense, McVay was distracted by the fact that Kupp was substituting out of the offense when it switched to 12 personnel, or two tight ends. It bothered the young head coach that one of his best players kept coming off the field. Thus, McVay’s 11 personnel (three receivers) system was born, led by the tandem of Kupp and veteran Robert Woods, two willing and expert blockers in the run game who did the dirty work and the finesse work in the pass game.
McVay didn’t have to substitute players, which allowed him to kill defenses with tempo while keeping many of his pre-snap looks the same. He could still run a wide range of 11, 12 and even 13 personnel concepts out of those looks. The Rams overwhelmed the league with their offensive output. The NFL changed. More teams run 11 personnel than ever. Defenses changed, too, to combat the flood of three-receiver sets.
Kupp, who tore an ACL in 2018 as the Rams went on a Super Bowl run (eventually losing to the New England Patriots), got his catharsis and redemption in 2021 during a triple crown-winning season. Rams fans won’t forget it.
Fourth quarter, fourth-and-1, backed up deep in their own territory by the Bengals in Super Bowl LVI. It was a play that had failed multiple times in practice the previous week: Matthew Stafford, Kupp and a jet sweep that kept the drive and their dream alive. The air got sucked out of SoFi Stadium as Stafford placed the ball in Kupp’s arms, then it whooshed from exhales and celebration when Kupp converted. He scored the go-ahead and ultimately game-winning touchdown a few plays (and yes, Bengals fans, penalties) later.
Now, his exit intersects with another big moment in team history. By overhauling his passing game to run through a player not named Kupp for the first time in his head coaching tenure, McVay has moved the Rams into a new era. The second Stafford agreed to return to the Rams for at least another season, that era got a name.
The moves the Rams made in free agency only solidify the message: shoring up their run defense by adding Poona Ford, bringing back Stafford’s previous center Coleman Shelton, extending Stafford’s blind-side protector Alaric Jackson, signing Adams and extending Atwell to complement a young roster with 10 starters from the last two drafts.
Los Angeles will try to make another run at a championship two years after gutting most of its Super Bowl roster and sprint-rebuilding back into contention much earlier than most expected.
Kupp, of course, was part of that effort. There isn’t a new star receiver — the brilliant Nacua, a fifth-round pick who will now be the No. 1 in McVay’s offense — without the old one. Kupp has mentored Nacua. He set a blueprint for the scouting staff that led to Nacua’s eventual selection in 2023. Kupp’s absence due to the injuries that have plagued him since 2021 (and eventually became a factor in his exit in L.A.) even set the table for Nacua to play much earlier than a rookie usually would in McVay’s system.
Now, Kupp will play somewhere else. His ending is still a beginning for himself, the Rams and another team. And football churns onward, its moments of irony often bittersweet to its participants.
March 13, 2025 at 12:38 pm #155492nittany ram
ModeratorI can’t watch any of these tribute/hi-lite videos yet. Too soon.
March 13, 2025 at 1:22 pm #155493Zooey
ModeratorI can’t watch any of these tribute/hi-lite videos yet. Too soon.
It must be painful for you to watch highlights of Kupp torching the Seahawks. It’s fine. Take your time.
March 13, 2025 at 2:11 pm #155494zn
ModeratorPeter Schrager@PSchrags
I know of 3 teams that are interested in Cooper Kupp. The question is what it will cost to sign him and what he and his reps are looking for $ wise. He certainly will be motivated and has good football left in the tank.March 13, 2025 at 3:18 pm #155498nittany ram
ModeratorI can’t watch any of these tribute/hi-lite videos yet. Too soon.
It must be painful for you to watch highlights of Kupp torching the Seahawks. It’s fine. Take your time.
Thanks for your understanding.
Kupp’s departure is hard for those of us who aren’t dead inside.
Sometimes I envy you souless types.
March 13, 2025 at 7:51 pm #155503zn
ModeratorJordan Schultz@Schultz_Report
Sources: The sense around the league is that former #Rams WR Cooper Kupp doesn’t plan on having a long, drawn-out process and prefers to make a decision quickly.Kupp has interest from at least five teams, and the expectation is he’ll decide sooner rather than later. It’s unclear if he’ll take any free-agent visits.
March 14, 2025 at 12:46 pm #155505zn
ModeratorJeff Howe@jeffphowe
WR Cooper Kupp’s asking price has been as high as $15M per year, per sources. It sounds like he’d take less for a preferred destination. But if teams are willing to hit $15M, it would widen the list of landing spots.The Seahawks, Saints, Cowboys and Broncos are among the teams that have shown varying levels of interest in Cooper Kupp, per sources. The Cowboys are a long shot at the moment.
March 14, 2025 at 6:44 pm #155506joemad
ParticipantDarnold to Kupp…
i was thinking he’d rejoin Goff in Detroit or hook up with Mahomes in KC.
Rams will face Kupp twice per year….
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44254640/sources-wr-cooper-kupp-join-seahawks-3-year-deal
Former Super Bowl MVP Cooper Kupp has reached agreement on a three-year, $45 million contract with the Seattle Seahawks, a source told ESPN’s Adam Schefter on Friday.
Kupp was released by the Los Angeles Rams at the start of the new league year Wednesday, ending his eight-season run with the team.
He joined the Rams as a third-round pick in 2017 out of Eastern Washington, as part of Sean McVay’s first draft class, and emerged as one of the game’s best pass-catchers from the slot in the years since.
He had 62 receptions as a rookie, then topped 90 in both his third and fourth seasons.
But his best season came in 2021, when he won the receiving triple crown by leading the NFL in receptions (145), receiving yards (1,947) and receiving touchdowns (16). He made his only Pro Bowl and was named the NFL’s Offensive Player of the Year.
Kupp capped that season with eight catches for 92 yards and two touchdowns in the Rams’ Super Bowl win over the Cincinnati Bengals, which earned him the game’s MVP award.
After the season, Kupp signed a three-year contract extension worth $80.1 million.
But Kupp has dealt with injuries in the three seasons since, playing in just 33 games. In 12 games during the 2024 season, Kupp had 67 catches for 710 yards and six touchdowns.
After the season, Kupp announced that the Rams were trying to trade him despite his desire to remain with the team. But with him being owed $20 million this season, no other team was willing to make a trade, leading to his release.
For his career, Kupp has 634 receptions for 7,776 receiving yards and 58 total touchdowns (57 receiving).
March 14, 2025 at 6:50 pm #155507Zooey
ModeratorI don’t like that.
March 14, 2025 at 8:05 pm #155509Billy_T
ParticipantI don’t get paying Tutu 10 mil while letting Kupp go. But what are ya gonna do? He’ll be missed.
Anyway, Nacua is the man now, and Adams should be a strong #2, if he stays healthy.
It will be interesting to see if the wideout room retains its emphasis on selfless play, blocking, etc. They lost a lot of “intangibles” with Kupp going, just as they did with Woods . . .
March 15, 2025 at 12:33 am #155519Zooey
ModeratorI don’t get paying Tutu 10 mil while letting Kupp go. But what are ya gonna do? He’ll be missed.
Anyway, Nacua is the man now, and Adams should be a strong #2, if he stays healthy.
It will be interesting to see if the wideout room retains its emphasis on selfless play, blocking, etc. They lost a lot of “intangibles” with Kupp going, just as they did with Woods . . .
Woods inoculated me for Kupp. Both guys still had tread on the tires, and I deeply disliked trading Woods, but honestly, the Rams didn’t seem to miss him.
And it’s not the money. They did not ask to restructure. McVay wanted a different array at wideout, I think. It’s strictly football. Unless Kupp is physically cooked.
But Seattle – I don’t know the structure of the deal – but I believe they would have done due diligence before a 3-year deal. Run him through the machines to have a look etc.
And with how gd excited McVay was about Adams, I think he wanted diversity in his WR weapons. It’s wild how unique Kupp was… until Puka came in with the same skill set, but bigger and younger and cheaper. I’m just leaning into the belief that McVay wants the entire range of top shelf kitchen knives to cook up some offensive destruction.
March 15, 2025 at 6:30 am #155528zn
Moderator@speed_kills@speedk1lls
in the case of Kupp it’s likely they just wanted to get younger and more varied.March 15, 2025 at 10:23 am #155529InvaderRam
Moderatori got the sense this was gonna happen about midway through the season. it just looked like the todd gurley situation all over again.
the kupp nacua duo didn’t even get off the ground. it sucked. would have been good to see, and i think they coulda made it work.
it’ll be interesting to see what the rams do in the draft. do they try to complement nacua and adams with a third receiver and try to recreate the woods, kupp, obj trio? that’d be wild.
i think kupp is cooked. or at least the rams think he is.
March 15, 2025 at 2:21 pm #155531zn
Moderatorit’ll be interesting to see what the rams do in the draft. do they try to complement nacua and adams with a third receiver and try to recreate the woods, kupp, obj trio? that’d be wild.
I think they wanted Adams because he complements Nacua better than Kupp, plus Kupp missed 19 games in the last 3 seasons while also being the 2nd highest cap hit on the team. I doubt Kupp could play a whole season again on the Rams really bad, hard home turf at Sofi.
No Rams fan will forget the best of Kupp, though, including being the only weapon Stafford had to finish their super bowl winning game. We all have the great memory of the Rams final drive when they took over down 16-20 in the 4th quarter, and on that drive Kupp caught 4 for 39 yards and a TD, plus converted the crucial 4th and 1 on a 7 yard run.
March 15, 2025 at 3:38 pm #155532wv
ParticipantI think they wanted Adams because he complements Nacua better than Kupp, plus Kupp missed 19 games in the last 3 seasons…
The injuries were what tipped the scales, i would guess. And aside from the 19 he missed some of the other games he was playing gimpy.
One of my alltime favorite Rams.
Also had one of the Rams alltime great plays. The 4th down run. Its up there with the Ricky Proehl catch.
Wish he’d signed with an AFC team, though. Sigh.
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vMarch 15, 2025 at 4:45 pm #155533zn
ModeratorAlso had one of the Rams alltime great plays. The 4th down run. Its up there with the Ricky Proehl catch.
So as Rams fans we have–
the catch
the tackle
the 4th n 1
We need a run that is “the run.”
March 15, 2025 at 5:12 pm #155534nittany ram
ModeratorMarch 15, 2025 at 7:18 pm #155535zn
ModeratorMy humble submissions…
There’s elements missing. So I don’t think they qualify.
1. Must be late in a post-season game.
2. Must be a close game.
3. The play in question has a do-or-die, absolute game deciding effect.
4. Must lead–either immediately or in that post-season–to a super bowl win.
5. I, zn, must agree with the choice.There is another, lower, less demanding tier of plays that have much less strict criteria. In fact they don’t even always have to result in a win. In this next tier down, the play is named after the player. The key here is that when they are named, every Rams fan automatically knows the play–no further explaining needed.
Examples:
Ferragamo to Waddy.
Faulk against the Browns in 99.
Faulk stands Hakim up.
Donald beats the Bengals on the final play.
Donald strip sacks Mahomes.When Aaron Donald sealed the game in Super Bowl 56 🏆 pic.twitter.com/tiexyHFwSx
— Football’s Greatest Moments (@FBGreatMoments) March 15, 2025
March 15, 2025 at 10:21 pm #155540InvaderRam
ModeratorThere’s elements missing. So I don’t think they qualify.
can’t remember if there was a single defining run in that game, but faulk against philadelphia was something to behold. and instrumental in getting the rams to the superbowl. woulda meant more if the rams won the entire thing, but that was a great performance.
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