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September 24, 2016 at 12:14 pm #53741znModerator
Black Lives Matter (BLM), the activist group that campaigns agasint police brutality and racial injutice, have just come out with their plan to help fix the issues that plague police forces up and down the country.
Their plan – “Campaign Zero” – focuses on 10 points where they would like the law to change. They believe that these changes will help stop racial profiling and lessen the dangers everyday citizens face when dealing with the police.
To get an idea of what they are asking for we thought we’d provide a breakdown of their plan:
1. End “broken windows” policing, which aggressively polices minor crimes in an attempt to stop larger ones.
“Broken windows” policing is the idea that vigorously enforcing small crimes (like vandalism) will prevent larger crimes from happening. This law has allowed police to increase “stop and frisks”, which BLM claims enables racial stereotyping. They argue that Black men and women are unfairly targeted by police using this law as an excuse, and that this policy ultimately led to the death of Eric Garner (remember the guy that was choked to death after he was caught selling loose cigarettes). This is their first point in their plan, and probably the most controversial.
2. Use community oversight for misconduct rather than having the police department decide what consequences officers should face.
Rather than the police deciding how an officer is punished after they’ve committed a crime (like when an officer who caused a death is ‘punished’ by being put on paid leave for six months), they want an independent group to review all cases and dole out the punishments. Since, you know, the police department might be a tad on biased.
3. Make standards for reporting police use of deadly force.
A lot of reports of police using deadly force aren’t released to the public. This skews the statistics when it comes down to who died by police hands and it leaves the public in the dark about how the police operate. BLM want to standardize the reporting methods and make the whole process more transparent.
4. Independently investigate and prosecute police misconduct.
Much like point two, BLM doesn’t want the police investigating crimes committed by the police since it’s proven to be a recipe for trouble. Instead, they want an independently run government body to investigate whether or not an officer has violated the law. The short version: if a cop shoots someone, someone other than the cops should look into the case to see if that shooting was lawful.
5. Have the racial makeup of police departments reflect the communities they serve.
This one is simple enough to ask for, harder to carry out in practice. BLM want the police force to be racially representative of the areas they protect. If a community is 50% Black, 30% Hispanic, and 20% White, they want to see a police force that reflects those demographics. Hypothetically, for every two White officers they’d hire, they’d also hire five Black officers and three Hispanic officers.
6. Require officers to wear body cameras.
This policy has already been implemented in several different police forces across the country – and with great success in some cases. However, the debate starts when it comes down to when and why an officer can turn the camera off. For example, you wouldn’t want people watching you when you went for a piss, would you?
7. Provide more training for police officers.
More training is never a bad thing. Many supporters of BLM believe that a lot of the issues between police officers and citizens have been instigated by rookie cops that are a little too eager to prove themselves in the field, and they feel a little extra training could help that out.
8. End for-profit policing practices.
This is a biggie. As of now, the police can legally take any money or property that they “believe” is in some way linked to a crime, and they can use that money and property as they see fit, even if you’re never convicted of that crime. It’s called Civil Forfeiture and the police in many areas have used this “right” to fund their own agencies and precincts. This is a major issue, and many people from different walks of life see it as legalized robbery. For more information check out John Oliver’s take on it, as he explains it far more eloquently than I ever could.
9. End the police use of military equipment.
BLM argues that the police should be working with the community to provide peaceful resolutions to society’s issues and that the use of military equipment shows an intent to abuse their power over citizens. It drives home the Us vs Them mentality. Big guns and body armour = scared citizens. Open dialogue and transparency = happy citizens.
10. Implement police union contracts that hold officers accountable for misconduct.
So, police unions have a history of protecting police (shocking, I know). Police officers accused of misconduct are no exception, but other members are often discouraged by their unions to speak out against those accused. This can delay convictions and stop valuable information or evidence from coming to light which prevents real justice. While the police need unions to protect their rights, BLM argue that the unions should play their part in weeding out the bad apples. If not, the abuse of power will continue because the bad officers know they can get away with it.
September 24, 2016 at 12:30 pm #53744bnwBlocked11. Never pass up an opportunity to riot, loot and assault onlookers.
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September 24, 2016 at 12:35 pm #53745Billy_TParticipant11. Never pass up an opportunity to riot, loot and assault onlookers.
Do you honestly believe that’s BLM’s doing? It’s not. BLM is a non-violent social justice movement.
September 24, 2016 at 12:44 pm #53747bnwBlocked11. Never pass up an opportunity to riot, loot and assault onlookers.
Do you honestly believe that’s BLM’s doing? It’s not. BLM is a non-violent social justice movement.
Yeah just choirboys and girls being funded by George Soros and bused around the country to riot, loot and assault people.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 24, 2016 at 1:04 pm #53749Billy_TParticipant11. Never pass up an opportunity to riot, loot and assault onlookers.
Do you honestly believe that’s BLM’s doing? It’s not. BLM is a non-violent social justice movement.
Yeah just choirboys and girls being funded by George Soros and bused around the country to riot, loot and assault people.
George Soros? So you really believe he’s funding BLM? Sheebus. Seriously, bnw. You need to reconsider your choice in “news” sources, ASAP. Cuz they’re feeding you classic tin-foil-hat nonsense.
September 24, 2016 at 1:24 pm #53753bnwBlockedWhy yes BT George Soros is funding them. But if you know as much as you claim you already knew that.
#BlackLivesMatter
With the backing of national civil rights organizations and Mr. Soros‘ funding, “Black Lives Matter” grew from a hashtag into a social media phenomenon, including a #BlackLivesMatter bus tour and march in September.
“More than 500 of us have traveled from Boston, Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles, Nashville, Portland, Tucson, Washington, D.C., Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and other cities to support the people of Ferguson and help turn a local moment into a national movement,” wrote Akiba Solomon, a journalist at Colorlines, describing the event.
Colorlines is an online news site that focuses on race issues and is published by Race Forward, a group that received $200,000 from Mr. Soros’s foundation in 2011. Colorlines has published tirelessly on the activities in Ferguson and heavily promoted the #BlackLivesMatter hashtag and activities.
At the end of the #BlackLivesMatter march, organizers met with civil rights groups like the Organization for Black Struggle and Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment to strategize their operations moving forward, Ms. Solomon wrote. OBS and MORE are also funded by Mr. Soros.
Mr. Soros gave $5.4 million to Ferguson and Staten Island grass-roots efforts last year to help “further police reform, accountability and public transparency,” the Open Society Foundations said in a blog post in December. About half of those funds were earmarked to Ferguson, with the money primarily going to OBS and MORE, the foundation said.
OBS and MORE, along with the Dream Defenders, established the “Hands Up Coalition” — another so-called “grass-roots” organization in Missouri, whose name was based on now-known-to-be-false claims that Brown had his hands up before being shot. The Defenders were built to rally support and awareness for the Trayvon Martin case and were funded by the Tides Foundation, another recipient of Soros cash.
Hands Up Coalition has made it its mission to recruit and organize youth nationwide to start local events in their communities — trying to take Ferguson nationwide.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/
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September 24, 2016 at 1:43 pm #53759znModeratorWith the backing of national civil rights organizations and Mr. Soros‘ funding, “Black Lives Matter” grew from a hashtag into a social media phenomenon, including a #BlackLivesMatter bus tour and march in September.
Bnw, all articles, even sleazy (and funded) right wing blog stuff, that is posted on this site has to include sources. You have to link them. If not then the site owner can get in trouble.
AND any genuine libertarian reading the 10 points listed above would be for them. Unless you just didn’t read it and instead fell back on partisan baiting tactics. A challenge. Read them one by one and say why you are against them. In most cases you can’t be…it would be intolerably contradictory of you to be against them. So you let us know whether you want to be known as a hack partisan or someone capable of discussing things.
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No, George Soros Didn’t Give $33 Million to #BlackLivesMatter
A director for the liberal billionaire’s Open Society Foundations quashes the rumor—pushed by conspiracy theorists and even mainstream outlets—that Soros is bankrolling the movement.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/19/no-george-soros-didn-t-give-33-million-to-blacklivesmatter.html
08.19.15 1:52 AM ETIn the wake of Black Lives Matter protests that interrupted speeches by Bernie Sanders and Jeb Bush over the last month, voices on social media, right-wing blogs, and even general-interest sites have pointed to a conspiracy involving liberal billionaire George Soros and a very specific amount of money: $33 million.
“The Soros-funded #blacklivesmatter movement is a big problem for the Democrats,” The American Thinker’s Thomas Lifson wrote this week.
Some of those rumors have gone mainstream, even making an appearance on Fox News’s ratings powerhouse The O’Reilly Factor in late July.
“So who’s funding Black Lives Matter? One of the big donors seems to be George Soros, our old pal, who gives big money to affiliates of Black Lives Matter—groups that do direct business with them,” host Bill O’Reilly said in a July 28 segment. “Also giving money directly to the group [are] entertainers Jay Z and Beyoncé.”
O’Reilly’s guest was Kelly Riddell, who wrote an investigative report for The Washington Times this year about Soros’s charity’s ties to left-wing organizations.
Black Lives Matter is “a group that was started by three women that work at Soros-backed organizations that are into community organizing, into kind of riling up activists,” she said. “They are all—all of these organizations, from a certain standpoint—are funded by George Soros’s Open Society Foundations. We’re talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. I found that within one year, George Soros dedicated $33 million to these types of organizations.”
“So $33 million from Soros to agitators who are organized to disrupt,” O’Reilly said. “And then the national convention for the Republicans in Cleveland seems to be a target.”
But a director at Soros’s Open Society Foundations says the billionaire did not give money to Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza, and Opal Tometi, the three activists who rallied together on Twitter in response to the death of unarmed black teen Trayvon Martin and the acquittal of his killer.
“I can’t really speculate on what leads to rumors, but it is wrong,” said Ken Zimmerman, the director of U.S. programs at Open Society Foundations. “I don’t even know where one begins to reconstruct something like that.”
The three women came up with the #BlackLivesMatter hashtag to bring attention to the deaths of young black Americans, and the phrase gained prominence with the police killings of Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and Freddie Gray.
Now, as The Daily Beast reported last week, “Black Lives Matter” is an umbrella term for a decentralized network of everything from blogs to in-person meet-ups—like movie nights or lectures—to protests to Facebook pages, making the task of pinpointing the number to $33 million impossible.
Some writers speculated that Soros’s years-long fundraising for Hillary Clinton may tie his charity directly to the shutdowns of two Sanders speeches in the last month. Soros has raised $2 million in PAC money for Clinton’s campaign this year, and Sanders has recently gained considerable ground on the former first lady in the polls.
“This story is not about George Soros as a person but merely an exploration of what role he and pro-Hillary Clinton activists have within the BLM protests of Senator Bernie Sanders,” The Huffington Post’s David Pakman wrote last week.
But Zimmerman said Soros isn’t in the business of paying for protests.
“We don’t fund protests, per se,” Zimmerman told The Daily Beast. “In the way we do our grant making, we are continually looking for new voices. It’s a broad array of things—including both immigration and criminal justice reform.”
September 24, 2016 at 1:50 pm #53762Billy_TParticipantSoros is the right’s bogeyman. They’ve locked onto him like they locked onto Alinsky, being entirely clueless about both of them.
No one was extreme paranoia and tin-foil-hat nonsense like the right.
September 24, 2016 at 2:05 pm #53763bnwBlockedWith the backing of national civil rights organizations and Mr. Soros‘ funding, “Black Lives Matter” grew from a hashtag into a social media phenomenon, including a #BlackLivesMatter bus tour and march in September.
Bnw, all articles, even sleazy (and funded) right wing blog stuff, that is posted on this site has to include sources. You have to link them. If not then the site owner can get in trouble.
I gave the source. It is in blue right above your post. You don’t see that?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 24, 2016 at 2:09 pm #53765bnwBlockedSoros is the right’s bogeyman. They’ve locked onto him like they locked onto Alinsky, being entirely clueless about both of them.
No one was extreme paranoia and tin-foil-hat nonsense like the right.
Soros the Nazi collaborator.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 24, 2016 at 2:28 pm #53768Billy_TParticipantSoros is the right’s bogeyman. They’ve locked onto him like they locked onto Alinsky, being entirely clueless about both of them.
No one was extreme paranoia and tin-foil-hat nonsense like the right.
Soros the Nazi collaborator.
Soros the Jew, who was all of 13 when the Nazis occupied Hungary. Come on. Glenn Beck was taken to the woodshed by the ADL for trying to turn him into a collaborator.
I’m not a fan of his business dealings at all, and there is much to be critical of the way he accrued his fortune. But the right has consistently smeared him and lied about him and his philanthropy, trying to turn donations to mainstream causes into something sinister.
The right is drowning in the deepest paranoia and you shouldn’t fall for their nonsense.
September 24, 2016 at 2:47 pm #53770bnwBlockedI’m not a fan of his business dealings at all, and there is much to be critical of the way he accrued his fortune. But the right has consistently smeared him and lied about him and his philanthropy, trying to turn donations to mainstream causes into something sinister.
When the philanthropy is enabled by the impoverishment of nations then it is sinister. He’s a large scale version of Paul Kalmanovitz. Trash.
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