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March 26, 2018 at 6:44 pm #84555znModerator
Rams agree to one-year deal with Pro Bowl tackle Ndamukong Suh
Alden Gonzalez
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22923804/ndamukong-suh-reaches-deal-los-angeles-rams
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Rams have secured what might be the greatest pairing of interior linemen in NFL history, adding five-time Pro Bowler Ndamukong Suh to the same unit as Aaron Donald, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year.
The Rams reached agreement with Suh on a one-year contract, the team announced from the owners meetings in Orlando, Florida, on Monday. A source told ESPN’s Adam Schefter the deal is worth $14 million.
Suh met with the Rams last Tuesday, the last stop in a three-city free-agency tour that included visits with the New Orleans Saints and the Tennessee Titans. He was scheduled to sit down with the Oakland Raiders the following day, but cancelled his visit. The New York Jets were reportedly willing to offer the most money, but they ultimately rescinded their offer.
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“We are excited have Ndamukong as a part of the Los Angeles Rams,” Rams general manager Les Snead said in a statement. “He’s been an outstanding player in this league and we are looking forward to him being a part of our defense.”Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, 70, expressed his excitement with a GIF on social media. The Rams’ franchise quarterback, Jared Goff, did the same.
Suh has been named first-team All-Pro three times since being drafted second overall by the Detroit Lions eight years ago. Suh compiled 51½ sacks from 2010 to 2017, trailing only Geno Atkins for the most by a defensive tackle during that time frame, and has also recorded 55 run stuffs, the most by an interior defensive lineman. Suh also ranks seventh among all NFL players with 26 batted passes and first among defensive linemen with 6,773 snaps over the last eight seasons.
Under Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, Suh is expected to play nose tackle in 3-4 base sets. In that scenario, Donald would remain the 3-technique — lining up between the left tackle and the left guard — and Michael Brockers would return to playing defensive end on the opposite side.
The Rams began 2017 on the heels of 10 consecutive losing seasons, including a 4-12 showing in their 2016 return to L.A. But they experienced a dramatic turnaround under Sean McVay, the youngest head coach in modern NFL history (he’s 32 now). The Rams went 11-5 in 2017, winning the NFC West while becoming the first team in the Super Bowl era to go from last to first in scoring from one season to the next.
Since then, they have built a star-studded defense to go along with a young, surging offense. The Rams traded for a couple of All-Pro cornerbacks in Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters, then, after a drawn-out wait, they signed Suh, giving themselves arguably the game’s best defensive line and secondary.
After five years with the Lions, Suh joined the Miami Dolphins on a six-year, $114 million contract that at that point made him the NFL’s highest-paid defensive player. Suh performed well during his three seasons in South Florida, compiling 15½ sacks while playing in all 48 regular-season games.
But the team managed only 22 wins, and Suh was released in the middle of March as part of what was deemed a culture change by the Dolphins.
Suh has been widely described as a dirty player throughout his career, drawing an NFL-leading 74 total penalties since he came into the league in 2010. Suh’s only missed time was the result of a two-game suspension in 2011 for roughing up then-Green Bay Packers guard Evan Dietrich-Smith. Suh has also been seen stepping on Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ ankle and grabbing Ryan Mallett, then a backup quarterback with the Baltimore Ravens, by the throat, among other transgressions.
But his productivity and durability have never been in question. Pairing Suh with Donald, a three-time All-Pro who led all NFL players in total pressures last season, will give the Rams an unrelenting pass rush, which should lead to more turnovers for a team that intercepted 18 passes last season.
March 26, 2018 at 6:55 pm #84559AgamemnonParticipantMarch 26, 2018 at 6:57 pm #84562znModeratorWe probably lose a comp pick in 2019. But gain it back for the year 2020 when Suh signs with another club
No. He was cut. So he doesn’t alter comp picks.
March 26, 2018 at 7:14 pm #84564AgamemnonParticipantRams agree to terms with free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh on one-year contract
By Gary Klein
Mar 26, 2018 | 3:20 PMFrom the moment the 2017 season ended with a playoff defeat, Rams general manager Les Snead planned to spend the offseason making the teams’ defense more on par with its high-scoring offense.
“We get that thing to dominant,” Snead said of the defense, “it would be kind of fun.”
The Rams are looking dominant, on paper anyway. And they continued a frenzied offseason Monday by agreeing to terms with free-agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh on a one-year contract.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed but the deal is reportedly worth $14 million.
Suh is the third major addition to a defense that the Rams were working to put on the level of its offense, which ranked among the league’s best in 2017.
In February, Snead traded for cornerback Marcus Peters. This month, before the start of free agency, he traded for cornerback Aqib Talib. The cornerbacks, with a combined five Pro Bowl selections between them, come with combined salaries that totaled less than it would have cost to retain Trumaine Johnson.
Now the Rams have added the 6-foot-4, 307-pound Suh, giving them a potentially dominant front that also will feature NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers.
Suh, 31, chose the Rams over the New Orleans Saints, Tennessee Titans, New York Jets and, perhaps, the Seattle Seahawks. The Rams were the final stop on Suh’s free-agent tour. He visited the Rams’ facility last Tuesday and had dinner that night with coach Sean McVay and team executives at Nobu in Malibu.
“We came away impressed with just the human being,” McVay said Sunday night at the NFL owners meetings. “He’s got a good perspective.”
The Jets were thought to have made the largest offer, but team owner Christopher Johnson told reportersSunday that the Jets had rescinded.
“That can’t be anything but good news for us,” McVay said Sunday night.
On Monday, before the deal was announced, Snead said he was not antsy.
“It would probably be different if you needed a decision from him, let’s call it ASAP, because it might affect another decision,” Snead said. “In this case, because this is more, ‘Hey, you know what? This bonus became available’… the timeline is not holding us back.
“That’s what makes this situation probably different than some.”
This will be the third NFL team for Suh, a Portland, Oregon native who attended college at Nebraska and was the second overall pick by the Detroit Lions in the 2010 draft.
Suh, a five-time Pro Bowl selection, played five seasons with the Lions before signing a six-year, $114-million contract with the Miami Dolphins that included $60 million in guarantees.
Suh has 51½ sacks, but the vast majority came early in his career. Last season, he had 4½ sacks, the lowest total of his career in a 16-game season.
The Dolphins released Suh on March 14, making him a free agent for the second time.
This time, money was probably not the decisive factor.
The Jets and the Titans were thought to have more salary-cap room for a richer deal, but the opportunity to play for McVay and defensive coordinator Wade Phillips on a team that appears to be ascending might have won Suh over.
This will be the first time in Suh’s NFL career that he will play in a 3-4 rather than a 4-3, so Phillips must design ways to get the best out of Suh and Donald.
March 26, 2018 at 7:15 pm #84565AgamemnonParticipantWe probably lose a comp pick in 2019. But gain it back for the year 2020 when Suh signs with another club
No. He was cut. So he doesn’t alter comp picks.
You are right. I forgot.
March 26, 2018 at 7:23 pm #84567wvParticipantPeters, Talib, Suh — Now they need to sign OBJ so they can have a fourth pillar.
I dunno about any of this. Its all kinda surreal. I dunno how to process it. The Rams have moved to LA and become the Raiders.
Sigh. Might as well draft a pass-rusher now and totally cluster-fuck the quarterbacks in the NFL.
I dont like the fact that every yappy-celebrity-pundit in the universe is gonna predict a championship for the rams now. And they havent played a down together.
I could live without the hype.
Ah well. Welcome to LA.
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vMarch 26, 2018 at 8:12 pm #84584znModeratorFive Things to Know about Rams DT Ndamukong Suh
Kristen Lago
The Rams have added yet another dynamic playmaker to their defense in defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. The five-time Pro Bowler and three-time All Pro will join 2017 AP Defensive Player of the Year, Aaron Donald, as a core member of the Rams defensive front next season.
Here are five things to know about the newest Ram:
1) He is a first-generation American
Suh was born and raised in Portland, Oregon but he is the first of his family to be born in the United States. His father, Michael, is from Cameroon and played semi-professional soccer in Germany, while his mother, Bernadette, was born in Jamaica.
He was named after his paternal great-grandfather. In the Ngemba language of Cameroon, Ndamukong means “House of Spears.” Suh has visited both Cameroon and Jamaica and was even named an ambassador in Ntankah — the town where his dad grew up.
2) Suh is friends with billionaire investor Warren Buffett
In his spare time, Suh seeks business advice from former athletes like Roger Staubach or Magic Johnson and has been very vocal about his desire to pursue a business career post-football.
As such, the defensive tackle has formed a few unlikely friendships with business moguls — like billionaire investor Warren Buffett. The pair first became acquainted at a meeting in Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway office in Omaha, Nebraska.
The self-made billionaire and Suh both attended the University of Nebraska and as Buffett told the Sun Sentinel, “We hit it off right away.” Since that first meeting, Suh has shadowed Buffett multiple times and the two remain in close contact.
3) He has appeared on several reality TV shows
Suh is no stranger to the small screen.
In total, he has appeared on three different reality TV shows — as a contestant on the Fox celebrity dating show “The Choice,” plus as a participant in both the ABC celebrity diving show “Splash” and an episode of the Discovery Channel’s “American Muscle.”
4) Suh has donated over $2 Million to his alma mater
On April 17, 2010, at the annual Husker Spring Game, Suh announced a $2.6 million donation to the University of Nebraska. Two million dollars would go to Nebraska Athletics, while the remaining $600,000 created an endowed scholarship for the UNL College of Engineering.
His gift was the largest, single charitable contribution to the University by any former player and occurred several weeks before Suh was selected as the second overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.
5) He was the first collegiate defensive player to win the AP Player of the Year
Suh’s college career was one for the record books. Through four years at the University of Nebraska, the defensive tackle led the Huskers to a Big 12 Championship and their first ever shutout win in the 2009 Holiday Bowl.
In his senior season, Suh earned unanimous first-team All-Big 12 honors and the Big-12 Defensive Player of the Year Award. He was also named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, took home the Lombardi Trophy — for the top collegiate lineman or linebacker — and was the first ever defensive player to receive the AP Player of the Year Award.
March 26, 2018 at 8:14 pm #84586znModeratorfrom Barnwell’s NFL free-agency and trade grades: Every big 2018 move
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22923804/ndamukong-suh-reaches-deal-los-angeles-rams
Monday, March 26
DT Ndamukong Suh, Rams
Grade: B+
In the end, the market really wasn’t there for Suh to come away with the sort of massive, multi-year offer he would have likely received had the Dolphins cut him at the start of free agency. Suh reportedly turned down larger offers elsewhere, and Josh Norman stands as an example of a player who became available late in the process and was still able to pick up a market-resetting contract at his position, but there wasn’t really a great fit out there for the 31-year-old Nebraska product.
Instead, Suh will just go to Los Angeles to form what surely must be the most terrifying pair of interior disruptors on one defensive line in recent memory. There were concerns about L.A.’s pass rush after the Rams traded away Robert Quinn, but Suh and Aaron Donald should be downright unblockable against the weak underbelly of NFL pass protectors, the league’s interior linemen. They’ve already sacked Russell Wilson four times and the season hasn’t even started yet.
Are there reasons to think that the pairing might not play out as well as the name value sounds? Three, I think. One is that Suh is genuinely coming off of his worst season since 2011, when he was suspended for two games — the only two he’s missed in his professional career. Suh has been able to stay remarkably healthy for an interior lineman, but he’s also played a ton of snaps by the age of 30. Since entering the league in 2010, he’s played 6,773 defensive snaps, more than any other defensive lineman in football. Just three linemen — Suh, Calais Campbell and Cameron Jordan — have topped 6,000 snaps over that span.
As a result, it has to at least be a little worrisome that Suh’s pass-rushing numbers dropped during each of his seasons in Miami:
YEAR TEAM SACKS HITS
2010 Lions 10 17
2011 Lions 4 9
2012 Lions 8 32
2013 Lions 5.5 20
2014 Lions 8.5 20
2015 Dolphins 6 20
2016 Dolphins 5 17
2017 Dolphins 4.5 12
The other issue is that teams haven’t really been able to turn two dominant interior defenders into productive pass-rushers at the same time. According to Pro Football Reference, no team has had two defensive tackles top 10 or more sacks in a season over the last 25 years. If we lower the cutoff to eight sacks, nobody has pulled that trick off since 1999. The Rams have the unquestioned top trio of defensive tackles in the game with Donald, Suh and Michael Brockers, but they’re simultaneously about as thin on the edge as anyone in football. The guys on the inside should guarantee Matt Longacre and company one-on-one matchups against tackles on virtually every snap, but the Rams would be better off if Suh was a similarly-productive 265-pound edge-rusher given the current construction of their roster.The third concern is the least meaningful of the bunch to me, but also the most difficult to forecast. The Rams are taking risks this offseason in adding clearly-talented players who other teams were willing to cast off at distressed prices, including Suh, Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters. The argument, naturally, is that the Rams have a far more settled locker room and coaching situation with Sean McVay and Wade Phillips in charge.
Does that make sense? Sure, but things don’t always play out that way. This time last year, many folks were raving about the work Jack Del Rio had done in rebuilding the Raiders. The hottest young coach in football was Adam Gase, who had pushed the Dolphins into the playoffs in his first season in charge. One year later, Del Rio is out of a job and Gase has had to dump key contributors and rebuild his coaching staff in an attempt to fix his team’s culture.
The Rams are making wholesale changes to their defense and their locker room, and while Phillips is likely the best defensive coordinator in football, we’ll only know how that goes once those guys actually get onto the field and play alongside one another. I can’t fault the Rams for being aggressive, but aggression inherently involves risk. Maybe the Rams don’t get enough pressure off the edge to keep quarterbacks from getting outside the pocket. Perhaps Suh is toast. It’s difficult to imagine L.A. getting as much from guys like Donald and Todd Gurley as they did in 2017, if only because they were about as productive as an interior lineman and a running back can be in any given season in the modern NFL.
With that being said, though, Suh is a risk worth taking. The Rams still need to sign Donald to the stratospheric extension the reigning Defensive Player of the Year deserves, but bringing in Suh on a one-year, $14 million deal shouldn’t preclude Los Angeles from making that move. As former Giants general manager George Young put it with his Planet Theory, there are only so many big men with the athleticism to make a difference up front in the NFL on Earth, and when you get the chance to add one, you take it. While there are meaningful concerns about Suh, this is an opportunity the Rams could not — and should not — have passed up.
March 26, 2018 at 8:17 pm #84587znModeratorRams make yet another offseason splash, add Ndamukong Suh to loaded roster
Frank Schwab
The Los Angeles Rams aren’t messing around in 2018.
The Rams could have decided to comfortably ride the wave of a surprising 2017 NFC West title into 2018, but they’re clearly trying to make a run at a Super Bowl this season. The Rams landed one of the best free agents to change teams this offseason when they signed defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, one of their many high-profile moves since last season ended. Suh was free after he was cut by the Miami Dolphins, and the Rams beat out other teams to land him. The Rams announced Monday evening that Suh had agreed to terms. Suh’s deal was one year for $14 million according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
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The Rams are taking advantage of the biggest edge any NFL team can have, which is having a good starting quarterback on a rookie deal. Jared Goff counts just $7.6 million against the salary cap this season, a fraction of what many top quarterbacks cost. The Rams can invest the extra cap space into players like Suh, and also cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, two other big-time offseason additions. Having Suh on a one-year deal allows the Rams to continue to have cap flexibility in the future. Suh also “took less” to go to Los Angeles according to Schefter, a sign that he believes they’re ready to push for a Super Bowl.
It’s possible the Rams now have the best defensive tackle duo in NFL history. Perhaps Joe Greene and L.C. Greenwood of the 1970s Pittsburgh Steelers or a couple other tandems would argue, but at very least Donald and Suh are in the conversation. Donald is the reigning NFL defensive player of the year. Suh is a three-time first-team All-Pro. They’re going to be impossible to block.
Suh has been a force in the middle since the Detroit Lions made him the second pick of the 2010 NFL draft. He is great against the run and able to get a pass rush up the middle. He should be even better in Los Angeles. In Detroit and Miami he was the focus of opponents’ blocking schemes on the interior. That won’t be the case playing next to Donald. Both great tackles will benefit from the presence of the other.
The Rams surprised everyone last season when they went 11-5. Their offseason has been eye-opening as well.
March 26, 2018 at 8:19 pm #84588znModeratorRams land Ndamukong Suh, and the rest of the NFL has a nightmare on its hands
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
Now this is just getting ridiculous.
First the Rams pounced on opportunity at the start free agency to assemble the best cover corner due in the NFL by trading for All-Pro cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib.
And now they’ve one upped themselves on Monday by adding Ndamukong Suh, the dominating veteran defensive lineman, to play alongside Aaron Donald and form the best defensive line one-two punch in the NFL.
What’s an opposing offense to do?
With Peters and Talib suffocating wide receivers on the outside and Donald and Suh dominating upfront is rush pressure and run defense, life just got a whole lot tougher for the rest of the NFL.
And the Rams present and near future is looking decidedly bright.
If you ever wondered how powerful the lure of Los Angeles would be for the Rams, let’s just say it’s already paying off. Pair it with a winning environment and a respected leader in Sean McVay, and it’s downright lethal.
Talib had a chance to go to the Bay Area after the Broncos worked out a trade with the 49ers, but nixed that idea in favor of Los Angeles and the chance to reunite with defensive coordinator Wade Phillips.
Peters was ecstatic to land in Los Angeles, a short flight from his native Oakland, to play in a city and state he is comfortable in.
Now Suh, the biggest free agent prize remaining on the market, picked the Rams and Southern California over multiple suitors.
And let’s not forget the $2.6 billion state-of-the-art stadium being built in Inglewood.
These are attributes the Rams can sell players on, and as we’ve seen over the last three weeks, they make a difference. And they’re about to unleash a ferocious defense on the rest of the NFL as a result.
It all seemed like a preposterous dream when Suh officially hit the open market after the Miami Dolphins released him in a cost-cutting move.
The 31-year-old five-time Pro Bowler would certainly have serious suitors, and therefore price himself out of the Rams range. They had money under the cap, but pressing linebacker needs on the edge and inside after trading both Robert Quinn and Alec Ogletree. Meanwhile, Donald is due a hefty new contract and Todd Gurley and Jared Goff aren’t far behind.
Sure, the Rams were intrigued by the possibility of adding Suh. But the harsh realities of the NFL salary system, and trying to find enough room under the cap to accommodate all their young stars, made it nothing more than a pipe dream.
Or so everyone thought.
Then Suh began making his way around the league in search of a new home, stopping first in New Orleans and Tennessee for face-to-face visits, and a surprising narrative began unfolding. Suh, it seemed, wasn’t so much focused on scoring another extravagant pay day as he was locating a landing spot that would help enhance his legacy. That meant a setup conducive to winning, and an environment in which he could potentially see himself spending the remainder of his career.
After already pocketing $60 million from a historic Dolphins contract, the sense was Suh was less about the money and more about the chance to win a Super Bowl ring.
That was right in the Rams’ wheelhouse, poised as they are as an up-and-coming NFL power with Goff, Gurley, Donald and Peters as their foundation, and offering the positive culture created by 31-year-old head coach Sean McVay and a conscientious locker room. They also provided a desirable location not too far from his hometown of Portland, Ore.
And with enough money under the cap this year — and close to $100 million in space projected for 2019 — the Rams were perfectly positioned to creatively satisfy Suh’s monetary needs without sabotaging future efforts to retain their young stars.
Suh, obviously intrigued, visited with the Rams all day Tuesday at their Thousand Oaks headquarters. The original plan had Suh heading up north immediately afterward to meet with the Raiders in Oakland. But by Wednesday morning, Suh cancelled the Raiders trip in order to process everything the Rams had to offer, and consider how it stacked up with the Titans and Saints pitches.
The Rams, now all in, anxiously awaited word.
On Monday, Suh made it official by picking the Rams over the Saints and Titans.
The Rams had their man. Also Monday – league sources say Rams done due diligence in Odell Beckham Jr. in a possible trade.
And the rest of the NFL had a new nightmare on their hands.
March 26, 2018 at 9:25 pm #84596ZooeyModeratorleague sources say Rams done due diligence in Odell Beckham Jr. in a possible trade.
Skuze me, what?
I want no part of that.
March 26, 2018 at 9:36 pm #84598wvParticipantleague sources say Rams done due diligence in Odell Beckham Jr. in a possible trade.
Skuze me, what?
I want no part of that.
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I dunno. The thought of O’dell wearing a “We, Not Me” t-shirt
just brings a smile to my face. I think it would be the perfect
symbol of…’the situation.’w
vMarch 26, 2018 at 10:44 pm #84602znModerator@NdamukongSuh to the #Rams ? Whew! #AnnualLeagueMeeting 🧐👂🏾 pic.twitter.com/D9gp67zhpk
— D-Ware (@DeMarcusWare) March 26, 2018
March 26, 2018 at 10:47 pm #84605znModeratorWhy did Ndamukong Sun choose the Rams?@AdamSchefter breaks down his thinking. pic.twitter.com/qaCFZ41QLj
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) March 26, 2018
March 26, 2018 at 10:58 pm #84608znModeratorNdamukong Suh a Strong Addition for the Rams’ Star-Powered Defense, But Questions Still Remain
ANDY BENOIT
Here are the concerns–
The bad—or, more accurately, the caveat—is that this dynamic defensive tackle duo doesn’t suddenly make Los Angeles a surefire top-10 defense. Two big questions remain. First, with both men being classic first-and second-down 3-techniques, who moves to 1-technique on running downs, and how will that go? And second, can a defense afford to have TWO linemen who take as many risks as Donald and Suh? When they penetrate and make the play, it’s beautiful. But when they penetrate and don’t make the play, the defense gets gashed.
Even more aggressive are Los Angeles’s cornerbacks. Only one corner plays a riskier brand of coverage than new Ram Aqib Talib, and that’s fellow new Ram Marcus Peters. These are two of the game’s best playmakers, but they also give up many plays. Some defensive coaches would not be comfortable with that at one outside corner spot, let alone both.
With corners like these, it’s imperative a defense’s pass rush gets home and makes a quarterback throw early, because that’s how route-jumpers like Talib and Peters do damage. If that pass rush fails to get home, the route-jumpers can be liabilities. This undoubtedly factored into the Rams shelling out $14 million for Suh. What’s still missing, though, is a dominant edge rusher. Last year’s top end, Robert Quinn, washed up, so he and his $11.4 million cap number got dealt to Miami. That leaves Matt Longacre and Samson Ebukam as the only true edge rushers; offenses won’t be installing any extra chip-blocking protections for L.A.
The Rams need an edge rusher, but few are available. Free agency has none left, and this year’s rookie edge-rushing crop is light. Perhaps that stoked L.A.’s fervor for Suh. Knowing no outside rusher was out there, the next best play was to become super dominant inside. Nevertheless, this front seven is still not great on the edges, which is something that’s been said of few top-shelf defenses before.
March 26, 2018 at 11:31 pm #84611InvaderRamModeratorworst case scenario. this unit can’t stop the run. and the lack of quality edge rushers stunts the pass rush.
the run defense. i don’t know. i hope suh can play nose.
i wonder what there ultimate plan is for and edge rusher. they can’t be done yet.
March 27, 2018 at 12:35 am #84614znModeratorthe run defense. i don’t know. i hope suh can play nose.
i wonder what there ultimate plan is for and edge rusher. they can’t be done yet.
You would think they weren’t done. But here’s the problem (I’ve said this before): rookie pass rushers rarely get much production. In 2016 out of 30 pass rushers with 8 or more sacks, 1 was a rookie. In 2017, it was 1 out of 35.
Here’s the good news.
Last year they were 4th in sacks and sack percentage without an edge rusher. Quinn wasn’t himself most of the season and got only 3 sacks in the first 10 games. Still, they ranked 4th in the end. That was largely cause of Donald…and scheming… and… scheming Donald (I did that on purpose. Yuck yuck.) Now they have a double interior rush with Suh added on. They are going to be doing the same as last year, just with double the interior DL pressure and with 2 great corners.
So they could get by. I mean all they have to do is find someone who can get more than 3 sacks in the first 10 games, and they are already better off than last year. That’s not longterm great but it’s something they could pull off. IF Ebukam has anything maybe he gets them 8 or more?
Also the good news is, you can find good pass rushing OLBs in the 3rd and 4th rounds. So they might not pay off right away but they’re there to be had.
Maybe they take 2 or 3. You never know.
March 27, 2018 at 5:06 pm #84635wvParticipantcarter on suh
March 27, 2018 at 9:19 pm #84650znModeratorWith Ndamukong Suh joining Aaron Donald, the Rams’ defense is going to be terrifying
Austin Gayle
The Los Angeles Rams continue to win the offseason, as former Miami Dolphins interior defender Ndamukong Suh has ended his well-documented free agency tour and joined what has quickly become a star-studded defense in Hollywood. And now quarterbacks facing the Rams will tremble at the prospect of facing a defensive line that includes another of the NFL’s best interior defenders in Aaron Donald.
Pro Football Focus’s No. 1 overall ranked player in two of the past three seasons, Donald has become a household name now just four years into his career, dominating his opposition with elite consistency both as a pass-rusher and in run defense. In 2017, he recorded an NFL-high 91 total pressures en route to a career-high 99.7 overall grade.
Now paired together, Suh’s and Donald’s respective ceilings skyrocket.
Suh has earned overall grades of 89.3 or higher in each of the past three seasons in Miami, eclipsing his previous career-high with the Detroit Lions (89.1, 2013) in all three years. He’s also earned an overall grade below 81.0 just once (78.4, 2011) in his eight-year NFL career.
The 6-foot-4, 307-pounder has recorded 160 total pressures over the past three seasons, ranking sixth among all interior defenders. He also amassed 247 total impact plays (factoring in quarterback hits, quarterback hurries and all defensive stops) in those three years, tying for fourth among the same group of interior defenders. His three-year pass-rush productivity, a PFF-born efficiency metric that measures pressure created on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks, ranks 11th among interior defenders with at least 1,000 pass-rush snaps 2015-17.
In 2017, Suh amassed 43 total pressures across 495 pass-rush snaps, including 30 quarterback hurries, eight hits and five sacks. He ranked 21st in pass-rush productivity (6.8) among qualifying interior defenders.
Suh’s new partner in crime, Donald, led all qualifying interior defenders in pass-rush productivity (14.8), as he logged 66 quarterback hurries, 13 hits and 12 sacks across 483 pass-rush snaps. Donald will complement Suh’s bruising approach with quickness off the snap and high-end athleticism, as he has flourished attacking both the outside and inside edge of opposing offensive linemen with his speedy first step and technical hand usage.
Though explosive off the snap, Suh opts for physicality over finesse when attacking the passer, instilling fear in his opposition via aggressive hand usage and bull-rush techniques. In Suh’s three-year tenure with the Dolphins, he recorded 58 bull-rush pressures, which accounted for 36.25 percent of his total pressures in that span.
In defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’s scheme, Suh will work opposite of Donald at 3-4 defensive end with six-year veteran Michael Brockers manning the middle at nose tackle on early downs. However, with Donald and now Suh at his disposal, Phillips should tap into his creative side on passing downs and move his two premier interior defenders up and down the line of scrimmage to attack mismatches and counter offensive adjustments.
Unlike a majority of interior defenders, Suh offers positional versatility as a pass-rusher. During his time in Miami, he played 63.7 percent of his pass-rush snaps either head up or shaded on the opposing guard and 25.3 percent opposite of the tackle, where he has recorded strong 7.66 and 9.89 pressure percentages, respectively. However, when lined up outside of the offensive tackle, he has more than doubled both his high marks, pressuring the quarterback on 27.27 percent of his pass-rush snaps along the edge.
On top of that, Suh is no one-trick pony, as evidenced by his strong run-defense grades in each of the past three seasons. After earning 88.6 and 88.2 run-defense grades in 2015 and 2016, respectively, Suh earned a career-high 92.4 in 2017, which ranked second among qualifying interior defenders, behind the New York Giants’ Damon Harrison.
However, despite his favorable grades, Suh’s impact in the ground game isn’t fully reflected in the box score. He ranks just tied for 18th in PFF’s run-stop percentage (7.71 percent) among interior defenders with 500-plus run-defense snaps from 2015 to 2017. As such, Suh’s positive impact in run defense is better identified through film study rather than stat sheets.
Suh earned positive grades on 92 of his 361 run-defense snaps (25.48 percent) in 2017, ranking ninth among qualifying interior defenders. And a majority of his positive grades weren’t awarded for making tackles near the line of scrimmage but rather disrupting the line of scrimmage and forcing opposing ball carriers away from intended rushing lanes, which, in turn, allowed his teammates to rally to the ball and steal the box-score glory.
Brockers, who has already proven dominant against the run throughout his career, will be the beneficiary of this component of Suh’s game. A former first-round pick in 2012, Brockers has often taken advantage of one-on-one situations while Donald drew double teams in run defense, allowing him to practically live behind the line of scrimmage. In 2017, he ranked fifth among qualifying interior defenders in run-stop percentage (11.7) and earned the 10th-best run-defense grade (88.0).
Suh’s presence in the trenches, along with Donald’s, will give opposing offensive lines no choice but to dial their focus away from Brockers, leaving him to reap the benefits in the backfield.
A testament to his ability to stay healthy and contribute on all three downs with admirable consistency, Suh has also played 281 more defensive snaps than any other interior defender over the past three seasons.
Adding Suh to their consummate list of offseason signings (including Marcus Peters, Aqib Talib and Nickell Robey-Coleman), Los Angeles has planted its flag as one of the teams to beat in the NFL in 2018.
March 27, 2018 at 11:33 pm #84661znModeratorWhat They’re Saying: Rams Agree to Terms with DT Ndamukong Suh
Kristen Lago
The Rams made another big splash during free agency — agreeing to terms with five-time Pro Bowler and three-time All-Pro defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. With the acquisitions of cornerbacks Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters already finalized, Suh adds yet another dynamic playmaker to the Los Angeles defense.
And it didn’t take long for writers and reporters across the sports media landscape to share their feelings about the big move. Take a look at what they’re saying about the Rams’ latest offseason transaction:
— Pro Football Focus: “The most important move of the offseason.”
“March is almost over but it’s possible that the Los Angeles Rams signing of Ndamukong Suh on Monday evening will go down as the most important move of the offseason. After adding cornerbacks Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters, the signing of Suh up front indicates that the Rams expect to be among the top teams in the NFL in 2018. The raw numbers in 2017 suggest that this is a move that will allow the Rams’ defense to wreak havoc this season.”
— The Ringer: “The truth is they could line up on Mars and still combine for 25 sacks.”
“RIP, Russell Wilson — Only two active defensive tackles have been named first-team All-Pro three times. Now they play together. With Suh and Aaron Donald, the Rams are stacking strength on strength at one position in a way the NFL hasn’t seen since Denver paired DeMarcus Ware with Von Miller in 2014. Now teams will have the unenviable choice of focusing on blocking Donald, who led the league with 91 total quarterback pressures (sacks, hits, and hurries combined) in 2017, and risk a one-on-one matchup with Suh, who was first-team All-Pro in 2010, 2013, and 2014, or blocking Suh only to let Donald loose.”
— Sports Illustrated: “It’s as scary as it sounds, for reasons both obvious and subtle.”
“Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh playing together on the same defensive line—It’s as scary as it sounds, for reasons both obvious and subtle. The obvious: Donald is the best gap-shooting interior D-lineman in football—a label previously owned by the now-31-year-old Suh. The subtle: Donald and Suh are both 3-techniques (Warren Sapp’s old position, where the player aligns between the offense’s guard and tackle), but they’re also versatile.This dual versatility will greatly expand and disguise Los Angeles’s designer four-man rush tactics.”
— NFL.com: “The Rams have constructed their own 21st century version of the Fearsome Foursome.”
“The best remaining player in free agency has made a decision on where he’ll be playing for at least the next year. In acquiring a trio of potential Hall of Famers this offseason, the Rams have constructed their own 21st century version of the Fearsome Foursome — two bulldozers on the line and two ballhawks roaming the secondary — all captained by one of the best defensive coordinators in NFL history, Wade Phillips.”
— ESPN.com: “The Rams have secured what might be the greatest pairing of interior linemen in NFL history.”
“The Los Angeles Rams have secured what might be the greatest pairing of interior linemen in NFL history, adding five-time Pro Bowler Ndamukong Suh to the same unit as Aaron Donald, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year. Pairing Suh with Donald, a three-time All-Pro who led all NFL players in total pressures last season, will give the Rams an unrelenting pass rush, which should lead to more turnovers for a team that intercepted 18 passes last season.”
— Fox Sports: “The Rams defense just got that much better.”
“All-Pro defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh signed a 1-year contract with the club on Monday. Suh and Aaron Donald together will be a disaster for NFC quarterbacks in 2018. Through eight NFL seasons, Suh has started all 126 games he’s played and recorded 418 tackles (288 solo), 147 QB hits, 103 tackles for loss, 51.5 sacks, forced four fumbles and recorded an interception.”
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