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May 12, 2020 at 8:03 pm #114840znModerator
from Austria Has 90% Drop in Coronavirus Cases After Requiring People to Wear Face Masks
The number of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases in Austria dropped from 90 to 10 cases per one million people, two weeks after the government required everyone to wear a face mask on April 6.
According to Daily Mail, “Austria seemingly managed to reverse its crisis by making masks compulsory on April 6, following a spike in infections in late March.”
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from New Study Shows That This One Thing [masks] Could Cause 80% Decrease In COVID-19 Cases
On March 6 in Japan, a country of 126 million, 21 people died of COVID-19. On the same day, 2,129 people died in the US – over 10 times the deaths in Japan. (The US population is only 2.6 times greater by comparison). While America begins reopening, Japan never closed. As I write these words, Japan shows no new cases, with only 624 deaths. Today, the US added 14,325 cases, despite tweets from the White House that nationwide numbers are declining. The USA continues to lead the world: 781 new deaths today bring the total US number to 81,568, according to the Worldometer coronavirus website.
The Land of the Rising Sun has had no lockdown, no stopped subways and most businesses have remained open. Social distancing measures have been in place, but by and large the Japanese economy has remained mostly unchecked, with minimal overall impact from COVID-19 (relative to the United States).
The reason…is that nearly everyone there is wearing a mask.
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May 12, 2020 at 10:42 pm #114851Billy_TParticipantA Dr Gupta — not the one who appears on CNN — said today that a recent Berkeley model shows a 12-fold reduction in transmission if 80-90% of the country wore masks.
12-fold.
Hindsight is 20/20, etc. . . . but I did say this back in March: If we had all been told to wear masks back in January, and there was a national buy-in, we wouldn’t have had all of these tragic deaths. As in, they were preventable. It’s just common sense. It’s not that the wearer gets fool-proof protection, though there is some, depending on the grade. It’s that he or she is largely prevented from spreading disease, by the mask. Again, common sense.
The N95s do both. They protect the wearer and the patient. But all of us should have been wearing the basics months ago.
And right off the bat, as I said here, I think we should retrofit all public buildings to be touch-free at any points of (human to surface) contact — to the degree technically feasible. Motion-sensors or voice activation everywhere. Doors, cupboards, elevators, bathrooms, desks, computers, etc. Especially bathrooms. We should automate our hygiene as much as we can.
Make it a habit. Every flu season. Donn the masks. Get our flu shots, wash our hands like crazy. Just expect this as the new normal. Yearly. And during any outbreak. Habit. Routine. No big deal.
If it saves even one life . . . why would anyone have a problem with it?
May 12, 2020 at 10:48 pm #114852Billy_TParticipantAlso, for all of the people who want to say this is the same as the seasonal flu . . . a comparison I see all over the web . . . it’s obviously not. The seasonal flu never wipes out entire nursing homes, as it’s done in America and elsewhere. And when people get the flu, they don’t feel like an elephant is on their chest, and they rarely need ventilators.
Also, if we really did an apple to apple comparison on total deaths for Covid-19, we’d have a range, right now, between 240K and 560K. Roughly.
The folks saying we don’t shut things down for the seasonal flu should consider the above. If we use the same formula for Covid-19, we’d have to multiply known cases by roughly three to seven times to get that range. Roughly . . . and the seasonal flu totals are for an entire year. We’re still some nine months away from that for Covid.
May 13, 2020 at 12:50 am #114856znModeratorIf it saves even one life . . . why would anyone have a problem with it?
You wouldn’t believe the problems some claim to have with it. Or probably you would.
Another way to say that is that resistance to masks is just unbelievable.
It’s all over the place out there.
A buncha John Wayne wannabes telling us they don’t live in fear.
May 13, 2020 at 1:07 am #114857znModeratorMay 13, 2020 at 12:46 pm #114869wvParticipantInteresting. I was just thinking to myself that the mask thing is probably useless.
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vMay 13, 2020 at 5:31 pm #114877znModeratorCoronavirus prevention: Can using a mask help in eliminating COVID-19 infection?
If a large number of people use masks, this can also help in reducing the lockdown period too.
Using masks to stop community transmission? While there is no doubt that using masks may help prevent Coronavirus transmission, the impact of the pandemic could have been eliminated if enough people wore masks while venturing out, the Indian Express reported citing a new study by researchers from universities in Arizona, Harvard and Sydney. It said that in a city like New York, if 70 per cent people had worn a professional mask, the outbreak could have been eliminated from the city while the similar results would have been achieved if 80 per cent people across the United States have used masks daily.
If not professional masks, low-quality home-made masks are also expected to lead to a significant decline in transmission. Homemade face masks, despite being three times less effective have proven to be adequate. This along with other interventions would help in achieving elimination, the report said. According to the report, using face masks is helpful especially when the coverage level is high. It further stated that 45 per cent of the deaths projected for next two months is likely to be prevented considering 80 per cent US citizens wear masks. It added judicious use of masks is necessary at least till next 12-18 months before vaccines are available in the market.
The report mentioned that if a large number of people use masks, this can also help in reducing the lockdown period too. “Face masks are a valuable tool to reduce community transmission,” Jeremy Howard, author of the study told the IE. However, one needs to ensure all social distancing practises and maintain hand hygiene.
Most importantly, the report highlighted that masks offered two way protecting. Citing Dr Jagmeet Singh, professor of cardiology at Harvard Medical School, it said that it prevents people suffering from infection in transmitting to others and protects those who may be exposed to someone with possible contagion.
It is to note that the Coronavirus is transmitted to droplets present mainly in the air. The droplets are released when a person coughs or sneezes. Wearing a mask would prevent the dispersion of droplets into the air.
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May 13, 2020 at 5:32 pm #114878znModeratorfrom If 80% of Americans Wore Masks, COVID-19 Infections Would Plummet, New Study Says
There’s compelling evidence that Japan, Hong Kong, and other East Asian localeshttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/masks-covid-19-infections-would-plummet-new-study-says
It sounds too good to be true. But a compelling new study and computer model provide fresh evidence for a simple solution to help us emerge from this nightmarish lockdown. The formula? Always social distance in public and, most importantly, wear a mask.
If you’re wondering whether to wear or not to wear, consider this. The day before yesterday, 21 people died of COVID-19 in Japan. In the United States, 2,129 died. Comparing overall death rates for the two countries offers an even starker point of comparison with total U.S. deaths now at a staggering 76,032 and Japan’s fatalities at 577. Japan’s population is about 38% of the U.S., but even adjusting for population, the Japanese death rate is a mere 2% of America’s.
This comes despite Japan having no lockdown, still-active subways, and many businesses that have remained open—reportedly including karaoke bars, although Japanese citizens and industries are practicing social distancing where they can. Nor have the Japanese broadly embraced contact tracing, a practice by which health authorities identify someone who has been infected and then attempt to identify everyone that person might have interacted with—and potentially infected. So how does Japan do it?
“One reason is that nearly everyone there is wearing a mask,” said De Kai, an American computer scientist with joint appointments at UC Berkeley’s International Computer Science Institute and at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. He is also the chief architect of an in-depth study, set to be released in the coming days, that suggests that every one of us should be wearing a mask—whether surgical or homemade, scarf or bandana—like they do in Japan and other countries, mostly in East Asia.
May 13, 2020 at 5:36 pm #114879znModeratorfrom How Hong Kong Did It
With the government flailing, the city’s citizens decided to organize their own coronavirus responsehttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/05/how-hong-kong-beating-coronavirus/611524/
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It’s been five months, and I doubt Hong Kong will let someone like me in anytime soon. The city of more than 7 million people had no local cases for weeks until today; meanwhile, I live in the country with the worst outbreak in the world, the United States, with more than 80,000 known deaths from COVID-19 and without encouraging developments on the necessary measures to contain it. Hong Kong, by contrast, has had only four known deaths total from the coronavirus over the past many months. It recently stopped calculating the dreaded R(t)—the real-time transmission rate of the coronavirus—because, of course, you cannot calculate transmission rates without new cases. Hong Kong never even had a full lockdown (although it closed schools, which it plans to reopen soon). Meanwhile, I’m entering my sixth week under a stay-at-home order, with no robust exit infrastructure in place.
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In response to the crisis, Hong Kongers spontaneously adopted near-universal masking on their own, defying the government’s ban on masks. When Lam oscillated between not wearing a mask in public and wearing one but incorrectly, they blasted her online and mocked her incorrect mask wearing. In response to the mask shortage, the foot soldiers of the protest movement set up mask brigades—acquiring and distributing masks, especially to the poor and elderly, who may not be able to spend hours in lines. An “army of volunteers” also spread among the intensely crowded and often decrepit tenement buildings to install and keep filled hand-sanitizer dispensers. During the protest movement, I had become accustomed to seeing shared digital maps that kept track of police blockades and clashes; now digital maps kept track of outbreaks and hand-sanitizer distribution.
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from COVID-19: Masks Make Difference In Reducing Transmission, Lowering Death Rate, Research Says
A new study by Arizona State researchers found that wearing face masks and coverings during the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic could help curb the spread of the virus and prevent more deaths.
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According to the researchers, the data suggests that the use of masks could reduce the number of deaths due to the virus by between 17 percent and 45 percent in the next two months.
According to the researchers, the data suggests that the use of masks could reduce the number of deaths due to the virus by between 17 percent and 45 percent in the next two months.
The full study from Arizona State University can be found here. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.03251.pdf
May 14, 2020 at 3:36 am #114904znModeratorfrom Universal Masking is Urgent in the COVID-19 Pandemic
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.13553.pdf
We present two models for the COVID-19 pandemic predicting the impact of universal face mask wearing upon the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus one employing a stochastic dynamic network based compartmental SEIR (susceptible-exposed-infectious-recovered) approach, and the other employing individual ABM (agentbased modelling) Monte Carlo simulation indicating (1) significant impact under (near) universal masking when at least 80% of a population is wearing masks, versus minimal impact when only 50% or less of the population is wearing masks, and (2) significant impact when universal masking is adopted early, by Day 50 of a regional outbreak, versus minimal impact when universal masking is adopted late. These effects hold even at the lower filtering rates of homemade masks. To validate these theoretical models, we compare their predictions against a new empirical data set we have collected that includes whether regions have universal masking cultures or policies, their daily case growth rates, and their percentage reduction from peak daily case growth rates. Results show a near perfect correlation between early universal masking and successful suppression of daily case growth rates and/or reduction from peak daily case growth rates, as predicted by our theoretical simulations.
May 15, 2020 at 12:57 pm #114943joemadParticipanti’m glad that my mask has the old Rams helmet on it…..
May 15, 2020 at 5:04 pm #114953wvParticipanti’m glad that my mask has the old Rams helmet on it…..
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Indeed. I’ve left instructions that should i need a ventilator, it has to use the old-school, blue and white helmet emblem.
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vMay 15, 2020 at 8:24 pm #114941canadaramParticipantIf it saves even one life . . . why would anyone have a problem with it?
You wouldn’t believe the problems some claim to have with it. Or probably you would.
Another way to say that is that resistance to masks is just unbelievable.
It’s all over the place out there.
A buncha John Wayne wannabes telling us they don’t live in fear.
Lots of people not buying in up here either. I wear one whenever I buy groceries, and I am always in the minority.
May 16, 2020 at 5:35 am #114978TSRFParticipantHere in Connecticut, most open businesses have signs out front stating that masks are required. Two weeks ago, in a local supermarket, I only saw one person not wearing a mask. Since then, every time I’ve been, everybody has been wearing a mask.
My 20 year old son has been given the green light to go back to his co-op job in Cambridge, MA. He’s been home with us since St Patty’s Day. He has an apartment in Mission Hill, and recently bought a bicycle. I guess it is safer than riding the T… I’ll be bringing him back this week.May 24, 2020 at 2:09 pm #115295znModeratorEvidence is growing that when masks are worn by nearly everyone, it can slow coronavirus transmission.
Masks help stop the spread of coronavirus – the science is simple and I’m one of 100 experts urging governors to require public mask-wearingI’m a data scientist at the University of San Francisco and teach courses online in machine learning for fast.ai. In late March, I decided to use public mask-wearing as a case study to show my students how to combine and analyze diverse types of data and evidence.
Much to my surprise, I discovered that the evidence for wearing masks in public was very strong. It appeared that universal mask-wearing could be one of the most important tools in tackling the spread of COVID-19. Yet the people around me weren’t wearing masks and health organizations in the U.S. weren’t recommending their use.
I, along with 18 other experts from a variety of disciplines, conducted a review of the research on public mask-wearing as a tool to slow the spread SARS-CoV-2. We published a preprint of our paper on April 12 and it is now awaiting peer review at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Since then, there have been many more reviews that support mask-wearing. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/resp.13834
On May 14, I and 100 of the world’s top academics released an open letter to all U.S. governors asking that “officials require cloth masks to be worn in all public places, such as stores, transportation systems, and public buildings.”
Currently, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that everyone wears a mask – as do the governments covering 90% of the world’s population – but, so far, only 12 states in the U.S. require it. In the majority of the remaining states, the CDC recommendation has not been enough: Most people do not currently wear masks. However, things are changing fast. Every week more and more jurisdictions require mask use in public. As I write this, there are now 94 countries that have made this move. https://airtable.com/shreZdkFaYZqfpEqU/tbl5o6qUd54BL9wkw
So what is this evidence that has led myself and so many scientists to believe so strongly in masks?
The evidence
The research that first convinced me was a laser light-scattering experiment. Researchers from the National Institutes of Health used lasers to illuminate and count how many droplets of saliva were flung into the air by a person talking with and without a face mask. https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2007800 The paper was only recently published officially, but I saw a YouTube video showing the experiment in early March. The results are shockingly obvious in the video. When the researcher used a simple cloth face cover, nearly all the droplets were blocked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=UNHgQq0BGLI&feature=emb_title
This evidence is only relevant if COVID-19 is transmitted by droplets from a person’s mouth. It is. https://www.thestar.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editors/2020/05/09/evidence-shows-covid-19-is-almost-exclusively-spread-by-droplets.html There are many documented super-spreading cases connected with activities – like singing in enclosed spaces – that create a lot of droplets.
The light-scattering experiment cannot see “micro-droplets” that are smaller than 5 microns and could contain some viral particles. But experts don’t think that these are responsible for much COVID-19 transmission.
While just how much of a role these small particles play in transmission remains to be seen, recent research suggests that cloth masks are also effective at reducing the spread of these smaller particles. In a paper that has not yet been peer-reviewed, researchers found that micro-droplets fell out of the air within 1.5 meters of the person who was wearing a mask, versus 5 meters for those not wearing masks. When combined with social distancing, this suggests that masks can effectively reduce transmission via micro-droplets.
Another recent study showed that unfitted surgical masks were 100% effective in blocking seasonal coronavirus in droplets ejected during breathing. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2
If only people with symptoms infected others, then only people with symptoms would need to wear masks. But experts have shown that people without symptoms pose a risk of infecting others. In fact, four recent studies show that nearly half of patients are infected by people who do not themselves have symptoms.
This evidence seems, to me, clear and simple: COVID-19 is spread by droplets. We can see directly that a piece of cloth blocks those droplets and the virus those droplets contain. People without symptoms who don’t even know they are sick are responsible for around half of the transmission of the virus.
We should all wear masks.
Against the tide
After going through all of this strong evidence in late March and early April, I wondered why mask-wearing was controversial amongst health organizations in the Western world. The U.S. and European CDCs did not recommend masks, and neither did nearly any western government except for Slovakia and Czechia, which both required masks in late March.
I think there were three key problems.
The first was that most researchers were looking at the wrong question – how well a mask protects the wearer from infection and not how well a mask prevents an infected person from spreading the virus. Masks function very differently as personal protective equipment (PPE) versus source control.
Masks are very good at blocking larger droplets and not nearly as good at blocking tiny particles. When a person expels droplets into the air, they quickly evaporate and shrink to become tiny airborne particles called droplet nuclei. These are extremely hard to remove from the air. However, in the moist atmosphere between a person’s mouth and their mask, it takes nearly a hundred times as long for a droplet to evaporate and shrink into a droplet nuclei.
This means that nearly any kind of simple cloth mask is great for source control. The mask creates humidity, this humidity prevents virus-containing droplets from turning into droplet nuclei, and this allows the fabric of the mask to block the droplets.
Unfortunately, nearly all of the research that was available at the start of this pandemic focused on mask efficacy as PPE. This measure is very important for protecting health care workers, but does not capture their value as source control. On Feb. 29, the U.S. surgeon general tweeted that masks “are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” This missed the key point: They are extremely effective at preventing its spread, as our review of the literature showed.
The second problem was that most medical researchers are used to judging interventions on the basis of randomized controlled trials. These are the foundation of evidence based medicine. However, it is impossible and unethical to test mask-wearing, hand-washing or social distancing during a pandemic.
Experts like Trisha Greenhalgh, the author of the best-selling textbook “How to Read a Paper: The Basics of Evidence Based Healthcare,” are now asking, “Is Covid-19 evidence-based medicine’s nemesis?” She and others are suggesting that when a simple experiment finds evidence to support an intervention and that intervention has a limited downside, policymakers should act before a randomized trial is done.
The third problem is that there is a shortage of medical masks around the world. Many policymakers were concerned that recommending face coverings for the public would lead to people hoarding medical masks. This led to seemingly contradictory guidance where the CDC said there was no reason for the public to wear masks but that masks needed to be saved for medical workers. The CDC has now clarified its stance and recommends the public use of homemade masks while saving higher-grade masks for medical professionals.
Results of mask-wearing
There are numerous studies that suggest if 80% of people wear a mask in public, then COVID-19 transmission could be halted. https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.07353 Until a vaccine or a cure for COVID-19 is discovered, cloth face masks might be the most important tool we currently have to fight the pandemic.
Given all of the laboratory and epidemiological evidence, the low cost of wearing masks – which can be made at home with no tools – and the potential to slow COVID-19 transmission with widescale use, policymakers should ensure that everyone wears a mask in public.
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