something's wrong…and it really gets down to one major thing

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November 6, 2016 at 8:50 pm #57072

zn
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Something is wrong. They are supposed to have a running game. Last year, they had Foles melt down for 4 straight losses, but managed to win with Keenum because the running game was there. That was with a young and then damaged OL on top of it.

This year, on offense, when they ARE in games, whether the defense is there or not (like it WASN’T in the Detroit game), what actually keeps them in the games is the pass. When that doesn’t work, they have nothing. When it does work it’s often not enough.

Whatever happened to the running game—and it’s more than likely not just one thing—that is what is defining this season.

They have a relatively healthy OL. They have a qb who they can win with…IF they can run. If they can’t run they CAN win some of these close games passing but as we’ve seen it’s a struggle to do it.

The running game is the big cloud over their star. Yet they could run in previous years. Not always tops but okay, enough. Last year they were actually 7th.

So what happened? Who or what is to blame? Lots of things probably. I don;t think it;s just one. The line? The other blockers (WRs, TEs)? Defenses stacking? Gurley? The coaches, up to and including Fisher? Probably some if not all of those things.

BUT that is the one thing they really needed to be winners this year. And they basically failed to produce it. This may be the worst running game the Rams have had since probably 1998.

November 6, 2016 at 9:04 pm #57074

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Agreed.

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November 7, 2016 at 12:11 am #57082

Zooey
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Looks like 75% of the offensive plays today were passes.

12 carries for Gurley.

Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, I am inclined to suspect Boras. I mean…everything else is the same or better on offense, but their performance is worse.

November 7, 2016 at 8:49 am #57103
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Zooey wrote:

Looks like 75% of the offensive plays today were passes.

12 carries for Gurley.

Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, I am inclined to suspect Boras. I mean…everything else is the same or better on offense, but their performance is worse.

15 and 14 carries the 2 games prior.

TG has only had 2 games this year were he eclipsed the 20 carry barrier.

The last 3 games he has been averaging 4 yards a clip. I use 4 yards average as a baseline, so I would say he is doing OK just not breaking those long runs…or explosive plays….that he did last year.

Boras just hasn’t committed to the run game in his play calling.

If Fish said before the season started that the plan was to throw it 50 times a game and run it 15 I think we would all have been thinking that didn’t sound like a good plan.
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November 7, 2016 at 8:55 am #57107

InvaderRam
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Zooey wrote:

Looks like 75% of the offensive plays today were passes.

12 carries for Gurley.

Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, I am inclined to suspect Boras. I mean…everything else is the same or better on offense, but their performance is worse.

i think it’s more than just boras. i think the entire coaching staff needs to be overhauled.

this running game has been a problem since before boras was promoted to offensive coordinator. gurley had 4-5 tremendous games and then fell off a cliff. some of it is gurley. some of it is defenses adjusted to this running game, and the rams have not been able to counter. some of it is also the oline. the coaching staff misjudged the talent. the players are dumb. the players are undisciplined. but also. boudreau is not able to get through to these guys.

i think it’s at the point where fisher and the entire staff needs to go. they’ve lost this team. i believe this roster has talent, but fisher and company have failed to properly extract that talent from this team and convert it to production.

i know people will disagree with me, but he has absolutely lost this team. and i was not a big proponent of firing him. i thought the rams needed stability first and foremost. especially with the drafting of goff. but this team needs a complete change. better to do it now than to have to reprogram goff three years later. i also think they need to draft an offensive head coach. particularly one adept at developing quarterbacks.

November 7, 2016 at 9:09 am #57109

JackPMiller
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It is poorly coached. This team, needs change real fast More like at the end of the season.

November 7, 2016 at 9:57 am #57115

zn
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InvaderRam wrote:

this running game has been a problem since before boras was promoted to offensive coordinator. gurley had 4-5 tremendous games and then fell off a cliff.

People say that sometimes but it;s not accurate.

Look at the gamelogs for individual games. It’s not true he fell off a cliff last year.

Meanwhile, yes, some things suggest that Boras is struggling as a rookie coordinator.

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November 7, 2016 at 12:25 pm #57140

Ozoneranger
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For five years the Rams have not had anything resembling an NFL offense. And that is deliberate strategy on Fisher’s part. That’s the problem. It’s all on him, it’s in his DNA.

Sadly, for Rams fans, he’s ridden that ship into the iceberg.

November 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm #57144

zn
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Ozoneranger wrote:

For five years the Rams have not had anything resembling an NFL offense. And that is deliberate strategy on Fisher’s part. That’s the problem. It’s all on him, it’s in his DNA.

Sadly, for Rams fans, he’s ridden that ship into the iceberg.

I can’t agree with that OR. FWIW.

This year they couldn’t get the running game up, and that is what killed everything else. Nothing deliberate about that.

2013-2015 you have damaged then inexperienced OLs plus a list of back-up qbs. That wasn’t deliberate. Foles melting down wasn’t deliberate. Bradford getting hurt wasn’t deliberate. Long lists of OL injuries was not deliberate.
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