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    wv
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    Some numbers.
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    “…..Asked about four wars in particular, registered U.S. voters said each of them had made the U.S. less secure, by a margin of 49.6% to 20.9% on Iraq, 42.2% to 18.9% on Libya, 42.2% to 24.3% on Afghanistan, and 40.8% to 32.1% on bombing ISIS in Syria.

    These answers should not immediately be taken to prove that the U.S. public is universally wise and well informed, and (not coincidentally) at odds with U.S. media. Not only is that margin pretty slim on ISIS, but 43.3% of those polled said ISIS was the greatest threat the United States faces. Meanwhile 14.1% named Russia, 8.5% North Korea, 8.1% the national debt, 7.9% domestic terrorists, and bringing up the rear with the correct answer of global warming as the greatest threat were a grand total of 4.6% of those polled.

    A survey of U.S. news reports would certainly suggest a point of agreement here between the public and the media. But here is where it gets interesting. Although the public believes the hype about danger emanating from these foreign forces, it does not favor the solution it is endlessly offered by the media and the U.S. government. When asked if, compared to last 15 years, the next president should use the U.S. military abroad less, 51.1% agreed, while 24.2% said it should be used more. And 80.0% said that any president should be required to get congressional authorization before committing the U.S. to military action, while 10.2% rejected that radical idea that’s been in the U.S. Constitution since day 1.

    The U.S. public may look quite depressingly ignorant in a quick survey of Youtube videos, but check this out: Asked if the U.S. government should deploy U.S. troops on the ground in Syria 51.1% said no, compared to 23.5% who said yes. Only 10% said yes on Yemen, while 22.8% said no — however, 40.7% said the U.S. government should keep “supporting” Saudi Arabia in that war.
    link:http://davidswanson.org/node/5324

    #56227
    Billy_T
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    Some surprising gains there in at least degrees of sanity. If I remember correctly, there was majority support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush administration. It seems to take a lot of years before Americans turn against wars they initially supported. Far, far too long.

    Better yet, our first reaction to talk of war should be a resounding No!!! Same with expansion of empire, “law and order” mumbo jumbo, corporate power, etc.

    And, yeah. Climate Change is the most obvious threat against us and the rest of the world, as is inequality.

    And this:

    Absent Radical System Change, World Faces Two-Thirds Wildlife Loss by 2020

    We’ve already seen half of it go since 1970.

    Humans really were given “paradise” and have proceeded to fuck it up almost beyond recognition.

    #56234
    wv
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    We’ve already seen half of it go since 1970.

    Humans really were given “paradise” and have proceeded to fuck it up almost beyond recognition.

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    I blame Fisher.

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    #56236
    Billy_T
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    We’ve already seen half of it go since 1970.

    Humans really were given “paradise” and have proceeded to fuck it up almost beyond recognition.

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    I blame Fisher.

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    Well, I think, to be fair, the destruction of the ecosystem goes back at least to Linehan.

    #56249
    Zooey
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    So in this class I’m teaching right now, I showed kids (or refreshed their memories) about how to read charts, graphs of various types, and tables, and demonstrated how to look for significant findings. Then I gave them a bunch of charts and graphs on terrorism, and assigned them to write an essay based on whatever they thought the raw data showed that was interesting or significant.

    So far I am half way through grading the papers, and every single kid has said, “Terrorism isn’t really a thing, and our fear of it is way out of proportion to the reality.”


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