socrates and intellectual democracy

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  • January 31, 2019 at 7:16 pm #97550
    wv
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    January 31, 2019 at 11:00 pm #97563
    zn
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    Bad analogy.

    A ship captain should be demonstrably skilled in navigation, among other things.

    A voter is part of a conflicted collective and makes political choices based on a sense of their own interests.

    Believing only elites should vote is based on the groundless assumption that you need certain level of knowledge to vote, and that those elites then make disinterested neutral choices based on a rational sense of the greater good.

    Nah they see and experience the world exactly the same way—through the lens of their own interests. And vote accordingly.

    Meanwhile for everyone on a ship, it’s in all their own interests to have a competent captain who is skilled at the craft of ship sailing.

    February 1, 2019 at 5:14 pm #97588
    wv
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    Well, my take on that was not that he wanted only ‘elites’ to vote, but that he wanted only people who were ‘educated’ to vote. To me it was a vid about education, and what ‘education’ IS and what it ‘ought to be.

    Maybe ‘education’ in a corporotacracy is essentially propaganda.
    And what it ‘ought’ to be is…somethin else.

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    February 1, 2019 at 5:30 pm #97589
    zn
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    wv wrote:

    Well, my take on that was not that he wanted only ‘elites’ to vote, but that he wanted only people who were ‘educated’ to vote. To me it was a vid about education, and what ‘education’ IS and what it ‘ought to be.

    Maybe ‘education’ in a corporotacracy is essentially propaganda.
    And what it ‘ought’ to be is…somethin else.

    w
    v

    Well yeah….but as you pretty much point out, the people who run the corporotacracy ARE educated. Anyway in the Athens of Socrates they did not have universal compulsory education anyway so the 2 situations do not quite line up.

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