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April 9, 2015 at 12:10 am #22384znModerator
Draft dodgers: Snead and Fisher hide their hands as big day approaches
By Palmer L. Alexander III | Posted: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 4:46 pm
There is no way to handicap what plans the St. Louis Rams have in store for the 2015 NFL draft. Head coach Jeff Fisher and General manager Les Snead have perfected the poker face. We’ve gotten a chance to see it, not just on the field, but off the gridiron as well.
Let’s go back to last year around this time. Snead was making the rounds on every NFL show, professing the love the Rams organization have for Sam Bradford. Bradford was the future and beyond, Snead said during an interview on NFL Network prior to the 2014 draft, in which the Rams held the second overall pick and the 13th. They picked offensive lineman Greg Robinson – who had his share of ups and downs, as any young player would – and Defensive Rookie of the Year Aaron Donald.
The Donald pick was a mild surprise, and it yielded very promising results on the football field for the Rams. It also made DT Kendall Langford expendable, and he was cut by the Rams, but found himself a new home with the burgeoning Indianapolis Colts.
After this season concludes, the Rams will face plenty of questions on how they’ll move forward with pending free agents like CBs Trumaine Johnson and Janoris Jenkins or DT Michael Brockers. Chris Long is not getting any younger at DE; he’s 30.
That’s why this draft is just as crucial as last year’s. The Rams were very active in free agency and even found a way to add a draft pick and got a compensatory pick in the 6th round.
Here is the Rams’ present draft order:
1st Round, 10th
2nd Round, 41st
3rd Round, 72nd
4th Round, 119 (from Philadelphia Eagles)
5th Round, (no pick)
6th Round, 216th (compensatory pick)
7th Round, 228th.That draft order is always subject to change.
Several top notable players have visited the St. Louis Rams like WR Amari Cooper, OTs Andrus Peat and Jamon Brown, and G Laken Tomlison, according to Nick Wagoner of ESPN.com.
With the additions of notable free agents DT Nick Fairley and LB Akeem Ayers, Kenny Britt and Lance Kendricks resigning, and trading for QB Nick Foles, the Rams are in position to build on a promising roster.
I’ve seen and heard several rumors stating the Rams are eyeballing WR Kevin White or Amari Cooper with that first pick if Brandon Scherff is off the board. Rams should consider it.
Brian Quick is another Rams player from the 2012 draft class whose contract is up and is still an enigma. He got off to a torrid start, but teams started making adjustments on him. It’s no different from Chris Givens or even former Rams wideout Donnie Avery. The jury is still out on Quick. The fact that he probably won’t be ready until the start of training camp is not a good sign.
The Rams might have Shane Ray fall into their laps at the number 10 spot, because there is a shortage of quarterbacks in this year’s draft. The Tennessee Titans are looking for potential buyers, since they presently hold the number two pick this season and there are a couple of teams thirsty for a QB. Teams like the Bears, Jets, Browns, are in desperate need for a signal caller. The Rams still are too, but not as much since they have Foles.
The Rams can really be sitting in a great spot if a team trades up into the top three of the draft. That could mean several impact players, such as CB Trae Wayne or DT Danny Shelton, could be in the mix as candidates for the Rams’ first pick on April 30.
Then again, Snead and Fisher could run some misdirection again and draft a shortstop with the first pick.
April 9, 2015 at 1:04 am #22386AgamemnonParticipantAfter this season concludes, the Rams will face plenty of questions on how they’ll move forward with pending free agents like CBs Trumaine Johnson and Janoris Jenkins or DT Michael Brockers. Chris Long is not getting any younger at DE; he’s 30.
That isn’t as bad as it sounds. imo
They can probably keep 8 of 10 of their top FAs without cutting anybody. Who they can’t resign they can replace in the 2016 draft, probably a DE and a CB. imo
April 9, 2015 at 1:51 am #22388Eternal RamnationParticipantBrian Quick is another Rams player from the 2012 draft class whose contract is up and is still an enigma. He got off to a torrid start, but teams started making adjustments on him. It’s no different from Chris Givens or even former Rams wideout Donnie Avery. The jury is still out on Quick. The fact that he probably won’t be ready until the start of training camp is not a good sign.
I think it was a lot different than Givens or Avery. Quick was unstoppable before the injury,it wasn’t “adjustments on him”
April 9, 2015 at 7:53 am #22389znModeratorSeven Options for the Rams’ Number 10 Draft Pick
By Anthony Stalter
http://www.101sports.com/2015/04/07/seven-options-for-the-rams-number-10-draft-pick/
With the 2015 NFL Draft less than a month away, let’s look at some scenarios facing the Rams at pick No. 10.
Scenario 1: Draft an offensive lineman
This might be the most probable outcome. The Rams have holes at left guard, center and right tackle. The team hasn’t shown a ton of urgency when it comes to addressing these holes in free agency, so perhaps the Rams will sign a veteran following the draft like they did a year ago with Davin Joseph. Thus, staying put and drafting the top offensive lineman on their board is logical.
Tackle Andrus Peat of Stanford perhaps makes the most sense. Iowa’s Brandon Scherff has been linked to the Rams in plenty of mocks, but the thought is that his best position in the pros is guard (and rightfully so when you watch his run-mauling tendencies and his issues in pass protection with edge rushers that can convert speed into power). I’ll never wrap my head around taking a guard in the top 10 because you can find capable starters in the middle rounds. The talent doesn’t drop off at guard as significantly as it does at tackle.
If Scherff’s best position is guard, I’d hope the Rams would search for better value at 10. Peat, La’el Collins and Ereck Flowers are the projected first-round tackles, although I’d argue that Collins will benefit from playing inside at the next level as well. Like Scherff, he’s a mauler in the run game but he has issues in space while spending too much time on the ground and not moving his feet quick enough to seal off the edge.
The more I re-watched LSU, the more enamored I became with Collins as a guard as opposed to a tackle.
With Peat, his technique speaks for itself. Defenders have trouble disengaging from him because of his size and length, and he does a nice job setting the edge. He’s one of the safer prospects in this year’s draft, although I’m not sure if his ceiling will go any higher despite being only 21. He doesn’t play with that same finish in the run game like Scherff, but he’s pro-ready, which might be attractive to a Rams team that will need to land starters in this year’s draft. Is he a top 10 pick? That’s debatable, although he’s being projected to go in the teens so it’s not as if the Rams would be vastly overreaching.
Scenario 2: Trade back
This is the scenario I prefer most when it comes to the Rams, who only have six picks in this year’s draft after trading a fourth and sixth to the Bucs in the Mark Barron deal. No disrespect to Peat, who I like as a mid-first rounder, but there isn’t a dynamic offensive line prospect in this year’s draft, and I’d hate to see the Rams reach.
If they could trade back, grab another second or third-round pick in the process, and get more appropriate value for whichever offensive lineman they snag, that would be the best-case scenario in my eyes. Hell, the Rams could address two holes along the offensive line and still have two more picks in the top 75 if things break the right way.
Scenario 3: Draft a wide receiver
For my money, Alabama’s Amari Cooper is the best prospect in this year’s draft class. He doesn’t have the size of West Virginia’s Kevin White, but he’s the most polished receiver I’ve seen come out in a long time and he has just as much speed (check out the footage from the scouting combine where Cooper and White run neck-in-neck).
From a route-running standpoint, there’s no receiver better than Cooper, and if he were there at No. 10, I’d love to see the Rams nab him. That said, I highly doubt he’ll be available, and the same goes for White. And even if they were available, the Rams seemingly love their current group of receivers and are unlikely to take a wideout in the first round.
Scenario 4: Draft a cornerback
I haven’t heard many people mention cornerback at No. 10 for the Rams, but with both Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson set to become free agents following the season, this is an interesting option.
Michigan State’s Trae Waynes is the consensus top cornerback in this year’s draft, but I’d argue Jalen Collins of LSU and Marcus Peters (despite his off-field history) of Washington are just as intriguing. Plus, this year’s class at cornerback is deep.
E.J. Gaines proved a year ago that he can start in the NFL and I’m sure the Rams still have plans for 2014 second-rounder LaMarcus Joyner. They could wait at corner and still find good value in the middle rounds. In fact, Collins underwent foot surgery in March and could slip into the second round and offer tremendous value. With his size and length, he’s exactly what Fisher has searched for in previous drafts.
Scenario 5: Take a quarterback.
The Rams could choose to take their quarterback of the future at No. 10 if Marcus Mariota were to fall, but there’s reason to believe that he’ll be selected with the second overall pick (by the Titans or by another team trading up).
And with Jameis Winston likely to come off the board at No. 1 to the Bucs, I don’t think the Rams will even have an opportunity to consider quarterback in the first round. There are no signal-callers behind Winston and Mariota that deserve consideration in the first.
Scenario 6: Trade up
I don’t see this happening, but Peter King and others have written about the Rams having an “all-in” mentality when it comes to this year’s draft.
Two problems with that sentiment: One, the Rams don’t have the resources (i.e. extra picks) to move up, and I don’t envision them trading next year’s top pick. Second, and perhaps even more importantly, the Rams aren’t one player away from a Super Bowl.
Parting with valuable mid-round picks in order to get land one player wouldn’t be sensible.
Scenario 7: Take an edge rusher
Based on how many people referred to me as an idiot last week when Chris Duncan and I broached this subject on “The Turn,” I gather that fans don’t even believe this is an option. It is.
Leonard Williams (who is versatile enough to play tackle or end, depending on the front), Dante Fowler, Vic Beasley and Randy Gregory (despite his failed drug test at the combine) are elite prospects. Many believe Missouri’s Shane Ray is a top 15 prospect as well.
Even though the Rams’ biggest strength is along the front seven, the Giants won two Super Bowls in five years because they understood you can never have enough pass-rushers. Plus, and I’ve vehemently argued this over the years, the draft is about selecting players, not positions.
Imagine if the Rams addressed a need at No. 13 last year over a player: They wouldn’t have wound up with Aaron Donald, who didn’t fill a need at defensive tackle, but wound up winning the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Year title.
Chris Long won’t play forever. Injuries are a part of the game.
Pass rushers are like gold to NFL teams, and they can take a while to develop, so adding as many talented prospects as you can isn’t a horrible strategy (in fact it’s a winning one if you ask the Giants).
Now, are Williams, Fowler, Beasley or Gregory fits in Gregg Williams’ defense? That’s an argument for another time. But for now, I wouldn’t discount this scenario playing out on draft night if one of these top pass rushers were to fall.
April 9, 2015 at 10:29 am #22390AgamemnonParticipantWhen he talks about offensive lineman he brings in a new term that I think he invented, overreaching. He considers Scherff and Collins guards. That might be their best position, but they could also play LT. I would compare them favorably with Saffold. There is this too, look at the landscape of this draft. The top 10 in this draft is different than the top ten in most drafts. There are fewer blue chip players and most of them have some sort of red flag. imo
April 9, 2015 at 6:59 pm #22405HerzogParticipantBrian Quick is another Rams player from the 2012 draft class whose contract is up and is still an enigma. He got off to a torrid start, but teams started making adjustments on him. It’s no different from Chris Givens or even former Rams wideout Donnie Avery. The jury is still out on Quick. The fact that he probably won’t be ready until the start of training camp is not a good sign.
I think it was a lot different than Givens or Avery. Quick was unstoppable before the injury,it wasn’t “adjustments on him”
you are right. I’m noticing that the media seems to have a vastly different view of Quick than we do.
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