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March 7, 2018 at 6:15 pm #83594
JackPMillerParticipantSeahawks trade Bennett to Eagles. I saw it was for a 5th round pick and a WR that doesn’t play. If we want to go to the Super Bowl, Philadelphia is a team we need to find a way to beat in the NFC.
March 7, 2018 at 6:41 pm #83596
wvParticipantUm….geez. Bennett is purty good.
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vMarch 9, 2018 at 1:34 pm #83742
znModeratorRichard Sherman released by Seattle Seahawks
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920383/article/richard-sherman-released-by-seattle-seahawks
Richard Sherman’s marvelous and memorable run in Seattle is over.
Sherman told NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero he has been released by the Seahawks after seven seasons in the Pacific Northwest. Sherman’s departure opens up $11 million in salary-cap space for the roster-churning ‘Hawks.
During an interview with KIRO-FM’s Gee Scott on Friday, Sherman said, “We’ve had conversations and they’ve told me that they’re going to allow me to go into free agency.”
But they want me to understand that the door’s open for me to return. They’re just trying to do what they need to do to clear up space and give me and them the best chance at free agency, and I’ve got to appreciate and respect that.”
NFL Network’s Michael Silver also noted Wednesday on NFL Total Access that Sherman’s official departure would come before the weekend.
Coach Pete Carroll said at last week’s NFL Scouting Combine there was “nothing specific” to report on the concept of trading Sherman. He’s not an easy player to move right now, set to turn 30 later this month and coming off a ruptured Achilles that forced him to miss the final seven games of the season.
Sherman also underwent a recent operation to clean up his left Achilles, but the three-time All-Pro expects to be back on the field come June.
Whether or not he returns to Seattle boils down to his market, but the Seahawks are clearly open to moving on from one of the team’s most celebrated defenders. Along with cutting Sherman, Seattle shipped defensive lineman Michael Bennett to the Eagles and could be without injured pass-rusher Cliff Avril and safety Kam Chancellor — another reminder the team’s vaunted Legion of Boom is all but history.
Sherman’s celebrated run in Seattle was nothing short of stunning, powerful and captivating.
The four-time Pro Bowler still leads the league with 32 interceptions since entering the NFL in 2011 as a fifth-round draft pick. Sherman also stands above the rest in passes defensed (99) and completion percentage allowed (47.4) during that span (min. 300 targets), per NFL Research.
The passes defensed mark stands out because Sherman spent games at a time with quarterbacks simply avoiding him in coverage. If he’s not the same player he was a few seasons ago, receivers still fear his next-level ability to wipe away pass-catchers from the game plan.
Off the field, Sherman was equally colorful, curious and outspoken, quickly morphing into one of the league’s biggest stars on a team that encouraged him to be himself.
If he doesn’t return at a discount, Sherman immediately becomes one of the most impactful Seahawks in team history. Not an easy figure for fans to say farewell to.
March 10, 2018 at 4:09 am #83785znModeratorMarch 11, 2018 at 11:06 am #83852znModeratorReaction to Seahawks moves has been a bit over the top
The Seahawks are clearly making serious changes this off-season. It’s just as clear that a lot of fans aren’t one bit happy about this. Chill.
Call it rebuilding if you like. Call it retooling if you’re a bit more generous. And if you’re feeling really grumpy, you might call it total annihilation. No matter what you call it, the Seahawks are making major changes going into 2018.
Naturally the reaction in social media has been all over the map. Many people have been supportive of the tough decisions facing the Seahawks. And on the other hand, some have been, oh, less than supportive.
This tweet is one of my favorites of those critical statements.
Fire John,he’s a clown, and your rich owner doesn’t know anything bout football. dismantling a great team cause they missed the playoffs once in 5 yrs.sad to c and I’m a lifelong Steeler fan. Feeling for u 12’s
— Roloff1 (@RoloffH) March 10, 2018
First, I appreciate this person’s sentiment. Clearly a fan of football in general, as the “dismantling” of the Seahawks bothers them even though they are a fan of the Steelers. We appreciate your concern. But I have to take exception with the particulars of these comments. Not just these, of course, but it’s a classic representation of what I’ve seen.
You do know you’re criticizing the guys who built the team, right?John Schneider and Pete Carroll are the “clowns’ that assembled this great team. As the writer made clear, they aren’t a fan of the Seahawks. I’ll give this person a pass because of that. Maybe they really didn’t know that those two drafted Paul Richardson. Or signed the brilliant Doug Baldwin as an undrafted free agent. Or found Richard Sherman in the fifth round. Let’s just leave it at this: if John Schneider is a clown, he’s also the part-time ringmaster, along with Pete Carroll.
The rich owner may not know anything about football. He does, but for the sake of argument, let’s just agree he doesn’t. At least he knows this much: he knows to hire people that do know a lot about football. You know, the people that built the team that made the playoffs five straight years. The ones that signed the talent that made it to two Super Bowls and won one. Those clowns.
The Seahawks aren’t moving players because they lostFinally, the Seahawks are not dismantling the team because they missed the playoffs for the first time in five years. That’s why they dismantled the coaching staff, and no, I’m not kidding. As for the team, it’s all about money. Money the Seahawks didn’t have, precisely because it takes a lot of money to keep all that great talent. Releasing Richard Sherman and other moves have more than doubled the salary cap space for Seattle. This is exactly the kind of move needed to keep players like Earl Thomas. As great as Richard Sherman is, he’s easier to replace than Thomas.
The NFL is a young man’s game, as Michael Bennett alluded to in January. It takes money to get new players, to get younger. Money you create buy moving older established players. These weren’t easy moves. And they might not have all been the right ones. But they had almost no ability to improve the team without making some serious decisions. Now, they have the chance to – well, I’ll go with retool.
March 11, 2018 at 12:59 pm #83861
ZooeyModeratorSeahawks trade Bennett to Eagles. I saw it was for a 5th round pick and a WR that doesn’t play.
And you want a 4th round pick for Tavon Austin?
See…that’s not happening.
March 11, 2018 at 1:03 pm #83862ZooeyModeratorReaction to Seahawks moves has been a bit over the top
I would hate it if I was a Seahawks fan, too, but they are right to turn the page. These are expensive players who are getting up there in years, and who have been seriously injured.
Time to reload around Wilson, and rebuild the D. That’s Salary Cap reality.
March 11, 2018 at 1:41 pm #83867JackPMillerParticipantSeahawks trade Bennett to Eagles. I saw it was for a 5th round pick and a WR that doesn’t play.
And you want a 4th round pick for Tavon Austin?
See…that’s not happening.
If there is a demand for Austin. Why not give it a shot? A team may want to secure his services.
Maybe the demand for Bennett was not what people think.
March 11, 2018 at 2:05 pm #83868znModeratorWhy not give it a shot?
Jack, it’s very safe to bet that the Rams thought of that and that if there were a trade possibility they looked into it.
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March 12, 2018 at 2:02 pm #83909znModeratorfrom: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/12/richard-sherman-san-francisco-49ers-john-lynch-mmqb-peter-king
Peter King
SEATTLE IS CHANGING
I was in Seattle over the weekend, and someone at my hotel asked: “Are the Seahawks done? Or is there more to come?” More? I asked. “Purging,” the guy said.
There very well could be. But let me start by quoting Pete Carroll. “The central theme in this program is competition,” he said to the media on the Wednesday before Super Bowl 49. “It’s not about the opponent. We compete against each other.
There will be a lot of one-on-ones, offense against defense, right off the bat, to get the tempo and the speed and the feel we want. It’s about make it a great practice day, and we compete against each other as hard as we can. We keep score. Somebody’s gonna win, somebody’s gonna lose today.”
I always wondered this: Carroll and GM John Schneider emphasize nothing but competition, almost daily. But at that time, the days Carroll spoke, he had 14 starters who, honestly, could have been relative no-shows at a given practice and they wouldn’t have lost their jobs. So what were the consequences for Marshawn Lynch or Kam Chancellor or Richard Sherman if, say, they dogged it and didn’t have a good practice on Wednesday? Nothing.
Now, I think, that changes. I think the Seahawks have a couple of nucleus players on both sides of the ball. Russell Wilson and Doug Baldwin on offense. Bobby Wagner and K.J. Wright on defense—and Earl Thomas, if he stays. That’s a big “if.” There are several “ifs.” Because the Seahawks don’t know if a team out there is going to come hard after safety Earl Thomas, who probably can be had in this post-Legion of Boom era for Seattle, but only for a significant package.
It seems likely that pass-rusher Cliff Avril will retire because of a neck injury, and strong safety Kam Chancellor’s future is uncertain too, for the same reasons. So I don’t think the transition from this generational defense is necessarily done with the Richard Sherman defection to San Francisco.
When Carroll and Schneider had their arranged marriage in January 2010—Carroll was hired first, and Schneider, the road scout, followed from Green Bay—they reveled in the fact that they both loved change, and they both loved trusting young players. So what’s happened in growing relatively old with Sherman and Thomas and Chancellor and the like is probably not who Carroll and Schneider are.
Carroll loved the constant turnover of college football, pitting the new recruit against the established starter through competition. He may not say it publicly, but he really has missed that through the last five or six seasons, since the Seahawks got really good and became Super Bowl contenders.
But at some point, to be true to yourself, you’ve got to go back to your ethos. And the Carroll/Schneider ethos is finding Sherman in the fifth round and plugging him in and discovering gold, and finding Wilson in the third round and plugging him in and finding the same kind of gold.
I heard a story about the Seahawks last season. A young player got to the team, and looked around the locker room, and told one of the veterans, “I played you with Madden when I was in high school.” You’ve got to be peers when you go play an NFL game. Should young players be little puppy dogs, in awe of the guys in their own room?
The next big thing in Seattle may not come this week. But look for teams to sniff around Thomas, due to make $8.5 million in the last year of his current deal. He turns 29 in May. The deal would have to be sizable for Seattle to give him up, but 29-year-old safeties are not usually long-termers. And Seattle is in the market for a new breed of Seahawk. So that bears watching.
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