Science Question

No. Intestinal gas isn’t comprised of shit molecules. There’s no such thing. What you are smelling is a mixture of a bunch of gases like skatole, and a bunch of gaseous sulphur compounds such as hydrogen cyanide, dimethyl sulfide, dimethyl disulphide, dimethyl trisulfide, methyl mercaptan, etc. These are byproducts of the metabolic processes of bacteria that inhabit your gut. Your poop is mostly bacteria, BTW. I know that cuz I look at it under a microscope almost every day.

wv wrote:

As we have discussed before, there is a “toilet plume” effect when you flush. Shit and piss particles do get ejected from the toilet.

Despite all the evidence there are still many “toilet plume deniers” in the republican party. Though some of them admit that it exists but think its a natural effect, sent by God.

w
v

link:https://www.self.com/story/toilet-plume-poop-spray

“…Toilet plume sounds like it should be the most popular DIY trend on Pinterest. Adorn that plain ol’ toilet with a collection of decorative feathers for an elevated pooping experience! Unfortunately, the actual definition of toilet plume is far less delightful.

Toilet plume is a term for what happens when the force of flushing sprays microscopic particles of pee, poop, and whatever else is in the bowl into the air. “‘[This plume] is easily transmitted in a wide range of air space when you flush the toilet,” Kelly Reynolds, Ph.D., an associate professor of environmental and occupational health at the University of Arizona who has studied toilet plume, tells SELF.

Unfortunately there’s not a wealth of research about exactly how far toilet plume can reach. One 2005 study in the Journal of Applied Microbiology found that microorganisms reached a vertical height of 2.7 feet after a toilet was flushed, but other information is scant. In general, Reynolds says the microbiology community’s consensus is that the spray can reach around six feet away from the toilet. That’s by no means a proven number, and a lot more research needs to be done to cement just how far toilet plume can go…

…So, what does science have to say about whether toilet plume can make you sick? A 2015 review published in the American Journal of Infection Control analyzed various small studies in which researchers purposefully put certain pathogens in a toilet, flushed, and then monitored how far they went and how long they lingered. The kinds of bacteria they included can often be found in the human intestines, then come out in poop or vomit and make you sick when ingested.

One study found that E. coli, which can cause diarrhea and vomiting, lingered in the air for up to four to six hours after flushing. Another determined that salmonella, which can cause similar symptoms, lingered in the toilet bowl for 50 days after it was put in there, got aerosolized every time people flushed, and contaminated surfaces like the toilet flusher and door handle. Still another found that Clostridium difficile, which can cause fever, diarrhea, stomach pain, or even a life-threatening infection, hung out in the air above the toilet for up to 90 minutes after flushing.

This all sounds disgusting and terrifying and….
“

Well, ok, but I took his question as being what’s causing the smell. That poop smell isn’t caused by inhaling the airborne bacteria from the toilet plume, it’s caused by the lingering metabolic gases released by the bacteria that are found in the poop. The sense of smell happens on the molecular level, and there is no poop molecule. What you smell is the gases produced by bacteria that are in the poop.

nittany ram wrote:

Well, ok, but I took his question as being what’s causing the smell. That poop smell isn’t caused by inhaling the airborne bacteria from the toilet plume, it’s caused by the lingering metabolic gases released by the bacteria that are found in the poop. The sense of smell happens on the molecular level, and there is no poop molecule. What you smell is the gases produced by bacteria that are in the poop.

========================

Well i think you are focussing on zooey’s words and missing the spirit of his question. He wants to know if he’s inhaling shit particles.

And the answer to that is “possibly” i would think. Depends on how soon he entered the bathroom after the last flush. And what was in the toilet during the last flush. And how close to the toilet he moved. And whether shit particles were on the doorknob. And what the circumference of zooey’s mouth is.

We dont have all the facts.

And THAT has been my meta-narrative for the last year.

w
v

zn wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

Your poop is mostly bacteria, BTW. I know that cuz I look at it under a microscope almost every day.

What reason would you have for looking at Zooey’s….

oh nevermind.

There is just not going to be an answer to that I will want to hear…

Of course I’m not looking at Zooey’s poop everyday, zn. That would be boring.

The allure of fecal microscopy is in its diversity.

Look, of course Zooey has the aerosolized fecal material of countless other men in his nose. That is not in dispute.

All I’m saying is that when he inhales deeply when entering a restroom after a stranger has had a bowel movement as he is wont to do, technically what he is smelling is not poop particles, but the gaseous eminations of coliform bacteria that live in and comprise the poop.

It’s a small but important distinction.

wv wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

All I’m saying is that when he inhales deeply when entering a restroom after a stranger has had a bowel movement as he is wont to do, technically what he is smelling is not poop particles, but the gaseous eminations of coliform bacteria that live in and comprise the poop.

It’s a small but important distinction.

==================

Well again, Isnt the correct answer that Zooey is smelling gaseous eminations of coliform bacteria AND he is also inhaling airborne shit particles from various men?

Isnt it fair to say that after visits to mens rooms, zooey is full of shit particles and gaseous eminations?

w
v

Yes, that would be fair to say.

Of course, in zooey’s obsession with the idea of inhaling fecal material, he overlooked one thing.

You hinted at it in a post earlier in the thread.

Fecal particles are going into his mouth too.

And if zooey’s the mouth breather we suspect him to be, then the amount entering his oral cavity is probably an order of magnitude higher than what he’s inhaling up nose every time he enters a restroom.

And it’s been going on for years – fecal bacteria coating his mucus membranes, combining with his own tissues, co-opting their function, altering more and more of zooey’s physiology to serve their own purposes….

I’m afraid Zooey’s more feces than man at this point.

• This reply was modified 6 years, 2 months ago by nittany ram.

I don’t understand how a discussion like this could get this far without anyone putting up videos.

It’s like everyone lost their game.

And.

I hope everyone realizes I am kidding. I will delete any bad vids.