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February 23, 2018 at 1:22 pm #83029nittany ramModerator
Chiefs are expected to trade CB Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams, sources tell ESPN. Teams are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 1:33 pm #83032znModeratorThe #Chiefs are in rebuilding mode. You can't keep trading away good players and remain a title contender. No.22 might've been a headache to deal with but he was a turnover machine with elite playmaking skills. It's hard to find CBs with those traits in this league. https://t.co/wRe0OiIQLR
— Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) February 23, 2018
Marcus Peters is a game-changer. He’s forced 24 turnovers in 3 seasons.
19 INT
5 FF
5 FR
3 TD— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) February 23, 2018
Turnovers are the biggest deciding factor in football games. Peters is a playmaker with a knack for taking the ball away. No.22 is arguably the biggest reason the #Chiefs won at a high level.. The numbers don't lie 👇🏾 https://t.co/M0ipGfwOQ3
— Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) February 23, 2018
One more point on #Chiefs Peters.. Vet DB coach told me when he was coming out that you need a strong-willed coach to get the most out of a strong personality like Peters…"It takes a wolf to coach a wolf"#LARams W.Phillips has no problems w/those kinds of players.(See A.Talib)
— Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) February 23, 2018
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Chiefs finalizing deal to trade Marcus Peters to Rams
A quiet Friday has turned into a monumental one for two franchises.
The Kansas City Chiefs are finalizing a trade to send cornerback Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported. The deal cannot be completed until the start of the new league year on March 14.
ESPN first reported the news.
Around The NFL will have more on this story shortly.
February 23, 2018 at 1:42 pm #83034JackPMillerParticipantI believe we are giving up a mid or late round pick for him. I believe we are the only team willing to take a chance on him due to his attitude issues.
February 23, 2018 at 1:46 pm #83035znModeratorAt one point, the #Chiefs were pushing to trade for DE Robert Quinn, along with a draft pick. But sounds like now it’ll be just draft picks going over to KC for Marcus Peters.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 1:47 pm #83036wvParticipantI dont know anything about this CB. Is he as good as Tru? Better? Different?
Does this mean Tru is gone?
I read somewhere the Rams might be giving up a first round pick for him. ??
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vFebruary 23, 2018 at 2:22 pm #83038ZooeyModeratorHe’s a good player.
I think, though, the Chiefs should send Peters and their first round pick to the Rams for the Rams’ 6th round pick.
February 23, 2018 at 2:23 pm #83039ZooeyModeratorI dont know anything about this CB. Is he as good as Tru? Better? Different?
Does this mean Tru is gone?
I read somewhere the Rams might be giving up a first round pick for him. ??
w
vYeah…I’m guessing this is goodbye to Johnson.
February 23, 2018 at 2:24 pm #83040znModeratorThe #Chiefs will receive a package of draft picks from the #Rams in exchange for CB Marcus Peters. They are focusing on the final part of the deal right now. But it’s getting done.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 2:31 pm #83041znModeratorIs he as good as Tru? Better? Different?
CB MARCUS PETERS
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/marcus-peters?id=2552488
6’0″ 197LBS.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Prototype size for the position. Fluidity in his hips to flip and run. Competes hard out of press-man coverage and tries to intimidate receivers with his physicality. Can redirect talented receivers with his length and flat-out stuff receivers with marginal foot quickness and strength. Stays in pocket of vertical receivers while turning to locate and track ball. Active and disruptive when ball is in the air. At his best when contesting catches and often comes away the winner on 50/50 throws. Outstanding feel for space with ability to track multiple receivers and quarterback at the same time. Closes on throws with above-average burst and brings some force on contact. Confident and tough.
WEAKNESSES Suspended for one game in 2014 by head coach Chris Petersen for a sideline tantrum that followed personal foul penalty. Was ultimately dismissed from team over multiple run-ins with coaching staff. Inconsistent with footwork and loose with technique. Lacks patience in press and will open up early. Grabby off line of scrimmage and downfield when beaten. Average mirror-and-match and long speed. Overly emotional and prone to mental mistakes because of it. Slower than expected to squeeze routes in space. Doesn’t take coaching.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1 or 2
SOURCES TELL US “I wouldn’t take him inside the first two rounds. He’s good, but he’s not that good that I would be willing to deal with his emotional issues.” — NFC personnel director “The tape shows his capabilities. He can be really good if you can control him. He’s on our board right now but there were some long talks about him in meetings. I fought for him.” – NFC defensive backs coach
NFL COMPARISON Aqib Talib
BOTTOM LINE Talented cover cornerback with size, ball skills and the confidence NFL teams are looking for, but lacks the necessary discipline and maturity on the field and in practice. Peters has raw talent, but is far from a polished cornerback, and that is without taking the character concerns into consideration. If his character checks out, then he has a shot at going on the first day.February 23, 2018 at 2:49 pm #83042znModeratorFirecap wrote:
My son whose a Big Chiefs fan said Chiefs were looking for a 3rd and 7th for Peters …. I very doubt that they will give up a 1st.
He said his football skills are elite, shutdown type of corner except for he had some tackling issues last year … got call out on it and he improved in tackling at the end of the year. He said his tackling issues were cause by him trying to strip the ball all the time instead of just picking the time to do it. He’s really good at stripping the ball and had 2 strip fumble recoveries for TD’s last year. Where he gets in trouble is he’s a really emotional player and said the Rams will need a strong locker room to keep him in check. He said he does a lot of videos with his cousin Marshawn Lynch and might be a be a big influence in his life. He has a history of trouble going back to his Washington days, but seems to own up to it and then get back to the straight for awhile.
February 23, 2018 at 3:01 pm #83043wvParticipant============
La Ram
A number of things at play here:
– Teams don’t trade young all-pro corners in today’s game
– I think Peters has created more turnovers than any player in the league over the last several years
– What kind of value must that type of player carry?
– What will the Rams sacrifice in players, draft picks and salary?
– He’s a headcase who can be a disruption in the clubhouse and during gamesNot sure how I feel about this!
============February 23, 2018 at 3:08 pm #83045wvParticipantObviously, young Mr McV thinks he can handle the head-issues.
We shall see.
I aint seen too many players outgrow that ‘over-the-top-Emotionism’ thing.
Usually ya just gotta work around it. ‘Manage’ it.w
vFebruary 23, 2018 at 3:54 pm #83048February 23, 2018 at 4:04 pm #83049HerzogParticipantI’m extremely excited about this. Wade can handle him, Mcvay is great with people too. I’m not concerned. if they don’t give up Quinn then it probably suggests they want to keep him.
February 23, 2018 at 4:14 pm #83050nittany ramModeratorI think it’s interesting (and odd) that the Rams refused to let Quinn be part of the deal.
By trading Quinn you get out from under the contract of a fading player that has back issues. Sure, Quinn came on strong later in the year, but he’s still simply a pure speed guy. He hasn’t mastered any pass rush moves beyond beating the tackle off the ball.
And you know it’s just a matter of time until he gets hurt.
I like Quinn a lot but I can’t help but think they missed an opportunity.
February 23, 2018 at 4:31 pm #83051AgamemnonParticipantWhy are the Chiefs trading Marcus Peters? (via @rapsheet + @mikegarafolo) pic.twitter.com/gDoNOLiDSF
— NFL (@NFL) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 5:22 pm #83058znModeratorThis is what the @RamsNFL are getting. @marcuspeters IS that good.
via @NFLResearch pic.twitter.com/RkOjNTvDVt— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 5:34 pm #83060znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
Official as in lock sealed and done between the two teams.When you start thinking about young #NFL cores, hard to argue against #Rams Aaron Donald, Todd Gurley, Jared Goff and Marcus Peters
One other note on #Rams reeling in Marcus Peters: #Rams brass believes their window isn’t just presently wide open, but it can stay open for awhile
From #Rams perspective, Marcus Peters is 25, has an uncanny ability to force turnovers and has two more manageable years left on his rookie deal.
FYI: Marcus Peters is scheduled to make $1.7 million next year. To put that in even better perspective, Trumaine Johnson made $16.7 million last year. The financial flexibility this trade provides can’t be understated.
TurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
Peters is in the final year of his rookie contract. #LARams would have fifth-year option available for 2019.SiriusXM NFL Radio@SiriusXMNFL
“From the LA perspective they are getting an elite CB for $5 million dollars a year. The corners are a big part of what Wade Phillips wants to do.”Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
This a Super Bowl swing by the Rams. Unclear what the compensation is, but young CB’s like Peters aren’t available very often. Like, everSure seems like the kind of deal that you make when you want to sign the best defensive player in football to a huge, long-term deal
Only concerns w/ Peters:
1.) Gambles on making big plays. At times, he’s burned because of it.
2.) Off-field questions have been constantIf there’s any locker room that can take Peters’ previous off-the-field concerns in stride, it’s the Rams. Huge value in McVay’s leadership.
Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
Rams get a big-time corner. Chiefs had to make a decision on whether or not to pay him and, evidently, decided the headache wasn’t worth it anymore.February 23, 2018 at 7:21 pm #83065znModeratorBigGame81 wrote:
Just heard Schefter on radio.. Said not going to be a first rounder
Schefter seemed pretty confident the deal will include multiple picks but not the Rams first round pick.
February 23, 2018 at 7:26 pm #83066znModeratorMarcus Peters: From KC to LA pic.twitter.com/UlZNDWOHSq
— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 7:27 pm #83067znModeratorFebruary 23, 2018 at 7:32 pm #83068znModeratorJust had a source who has provided me good info in the past tell me Marcus Peters requested a trade after the Titans playoff loss.
No, I'm not kidding.
— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) February 23, 2018
==Adding Marcus Peters to a Wade Phillips defense will be a beautiful thing.
— Gregg Rosenthal (@greggrosenthal) February 23, 2018
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Unless Marcus Peters has a pending murder charge we don't know about, the @Chiefs just made the worst trade in perhaps the history of the franchise.
— Patrick Allen (@RPatrickAllen) February 23, 2018
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The #LARams currently have the NFL’s off. & def. players of the year & after the Peters trade they’ll also have the ‘15 off. & def. rookies of the year. Throw in Aaron Donald’s DROY in ‘14 & Sean McVay’s recent COY, helps illustrate the wealth of talent they’ve assembled in LA.
— Omar Ruiz (@OmarDRuiz) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 8:15 pm #83070InvaderRamModeratorthis might get not too many likes but what i would do at this point.
i’d try to get joyner re-signed.
i’d still try to get tru signed.
i’d let watkins go.
i’d draft the best damn player with the first. hopefully, it’s a pass rusher. or vea.
that right there is the makings of an elite defense.
February 23, 2018 at 9:03 pm #83073canadaramParticipantBigGame81
Just heard Schefter on radio.. Said not going to be a first rounder
Schefter seemed pretty confident the deal will include multiple picks but not the Rams first round pick.
If true, and depending on what happens between now the end of April, I’m all in on o-line with the Rams first pick. That’s not to say the Rams don’t have other needs (e.g. edge rusher, NT, ILB, TE), but I’m just tell’n y’all what I want.
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February 24, 2018 at 1:50 am #83081HerzogParticipantFebruary 24, 2018 at 12:31 pm #83107znModeratorMarcus Peters is gone. The Chiefs have some explaining to do.
SAM MELLINGER
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article201907719.html#storylink=cpy
Clark Hunt, Andy Reid and Brett Veach deserve an opportunity to explain, because as it stands right now they have cloaked their franchise with failure.
That word is not used without thought. That word is not used without intent.
The Chiefs on Friday agreed to trade Marcus Peters to the Rams, reportedly for draft picks. Without hearing from the men who made this decision, the explanation that makes the most sense is one lacking in guts, ambition, commitment to success, and realism.
A difficult situation presents itself, and the Chiefs hit the eject button.
Starting with Reid being hired and paid more than any NFL coach who has not won a Super Bowl, the Chiefs have branded themselves as a place for second chances, where strong personalities are welcomed and supported.
Here, then, they failed with their strongest-willed and one of their best players. This was supposed to be their edge. Let players show their personalities. Get the most out of them. Except with Peters, the Chiefs failed to do it, apparently allowing the situation to become so untenable they traded him without a strong market of interest.
Again, Hunt, Reid, and Veach should be allowed to explain. This has all the markings of the Chiefs pushing Peters out, but there is always a chance the trade return was so overwhelming the Chiefs couldn’t resist. So these words are an initial reaction, not the final judgment. Still, the following is true:
Peters plays one of the most important non-quarterback positions in football, creates more turnovers than anyone else in the league, and just turned 25 in January with a year left on his rookie deal plus up to three more years of club control.
And he’s gone. For what?
The Chiefs traded a cheap, young star at a premium position despite the limited leverage of just two teams interested.
Why?
For draft picks? So they have an opportunity to select Peters’ replacement? That’s not the action of a successful franchise.
Chiefs Marcus Peters played a key role in both of the Chiefs takeaways in 29–13 victory over the Miami Dolphins on Sunday. Blair Kerkhoff The Kansas City Star
That’s the action of a franchise with more blown leads than wins in playoff games.
One more time, maybe there is a better and more sensible explanation, but here’s what it looks like at the moment: Hunt, who cowered when given the opportunity to stand up for his players’ rights last fall, wanted the headache gone.
He has been outspoken about wanting players to stand for the anthem, and talked Peters into staying in the locker room for the song. Hunt is a conservative man by nature, and it’s not a stretch to believe he wanted one of the NFL’s least conservative players off his team.
Because the other explanations don’t make as much sense.
The Chiefs want you to believe they are serious about winning and just traded one of their best players.
The Chiefs are trying to get younger and just traded a 25-year-old star.
The Chiefs’ secondary was awful last year and they just dumped (by far) their best cornerback.
The Chiefs retained a defensive coordinator who was exposed in 2017, deciding it was more about a lack of talent, and just shipped off one of the league’s most productive and dangerous defenders.
The Chiefs’ defense emphasizes creating turnovers, and they just traded the man who has created more turnovers than anyone else since he entered the league.
The Chiefs, in other words, have a disconnected vision of their future, or no serious expectations of success this season, or both.
Peters is not without his faults. Obviously. He is hyper competitive, which is his greatest strength right until the moment it becomes his greatest flaw. You don’t know when he’ll draw a personal foul, but you can expect at least a few every season.
Kansas City Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters has lost his cool or done something that has resulted in a fine several times during the 2017 season. Neil Nakahodo, Pete Grathoff, David EulittThe Kansas City Star
Reid is by reputation one of the league’s great players’ coaches, and along with Terrell Owens, Peters is one of just two players Reid has suspended in 19 years. Peters’ protests during the national anthem angered a loud portion of the Chiefs’ fan base, and despite handing out turkeys and coats in Kansas City last year, the drama was never going fully away.
There is little doubt he was unhappy in Kansas City. Some of this was inevitable, because the player and his adopted home were so different. Peters could have asked to be traded, but his only leverage was a threat to sit out (which would mean not being paid, and not accruing service time toward free agency) or to not sign an extension (but the Chiefs could’ve controlled him for up to four more seasons).
The Chiefs were not against the clock here. They had time on their side.
The Chiefs could have supported the player, could have worked with the player. They could have found common ground. They could have defended the player against unfair public criticism, if that’s what it took.
Good organizations do that. The Chiefs traded the player. Organizations whose last Super Bowl appearance is old enough to be a grandfather do that.
One more time for the people in the back: Hunt, Reid, and Veach deserve the opportunity to explain. Chiefs fans deserve that, too. Maybe there is something that brings it all together.
But at the moment, only two explanations come to mind that make more sense than Hunt wanting the player out.
The first is that Peters had somehow become such a problem that he was breaking the locker room, and the organization made the advance decision to deal him now before he made more money and his trade value slipped.
That would have to account for the Chiefs players upset by the trade, require something much worse than what’s known so far, and be a tacit admission of failure by a coach hired in part because of his ability to get the best out of strong personalities.
The second apparent explanation would be that the Chiefs are fully embracing a rebuild, and selling off all valuable parts while they reset around quarterback Patrick Mahomes. If that’s the case, then more big trades should be expected.
There are varied holes in this logic, too, from the Chiefs having a good roster already to the NFL’s established history of teams winning with quarterbacks on rookie contracts.
But, at least it would be something.
At least it would be something that didn’t leave the sinking suspicion that the Chiefs just caved to the ugliest parts of their fan base and the weakest part of human nature by avoiding discomfort even as it sets them back competitively.
February 24, 2018 at 12:40 pm #83108znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
Les Snead is getting pretty good at these stealth, blockbuster moves. And his latest –
reeling in #Chiefs All-Pro CB Marcus Peters – completely changes the complexion of the #Rams offseason.Terez A. Paylor@TerezPaylor
Already hearing some rumblings about some current Chiefs being upset about this potential Marcus Peters trade. Compensation will be interestingPeter King@SI_PeterKing
The story:
-Les Snead never met a trade he didn’t like.
-Andy Reid all-in on rebuild.
-Wade Phillips has great CB for his D.
-Be wary of Peters. Who trades a top CB at 25?ProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
Wade Phillips, who has seen every type of player in a lifetime of coaching, surely can handle Marcus PetersFebruary 24, 2018 at 1:10 pm #83109nittany ramModeratorthis might get not too many likes but what i would do at this point.
i’d try to get joyner re-signed.
i’d still try to get tru signed.
i’d let watkins go.
i’d draft the best damn player with the first. hopefully, it’s a pass rusher. or vea.
that right there is the makings of an elite defense.
Yeah, if somehow they could sign TruJo to a fair price then the Rams’ secondary goes from a potential problem area to perhaps the best in football. I assume they’ll tag Joyner if they can’t sign him.
February 24, 2018 at 1:57 pm #83110znModeratorthis might get not too many likes but what i would do at this point.
i’d try to get joyner re-signed.
i’d still try to get tru signed.
i’d let watkins go.
i’d draft the best damn player with the first. hopefully, it’s a pass rusher. or vea.
that right there is the makings of an elite defense.
Yeah, if somehow they could sign TruJo to a fair price then the Rams’ secondary goes from a potential problem area to perhaps the best in football. I assume they’ll tag Joyner if they can’t sign him.
Looks like, at this stage, they could take a corner at 23 for a fraction of what it would cost to pay Tru and still have a very good, even top secondary.
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