Saturday Morning Observations: Surgeons and pain

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    Billy_T
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    Recently had both eyes done for cataracts. Still in recovery mode. My right eye followup was Thursday — the left eye was done first — and complications were found. The doc thought he saw a retinal tear, so he booked me with yet another specialist for Friday (yesterday). That doctor found tears in both eyes, and I had an (unexpected) surgery on the left eye that day.

    I’m beginning to notice a pattern with surgeons. They seem not to actually think what they do might, um, kinda hurt patients. They seem so convinced of their skills — and they do have them — that patients shouldn’t worry bout a thing.

    The laser fix for the tear actually did hurt, and I pride myself in having a very high threshold for pain. More than 17 years of chemo and its side-effects, I think, gives me that right. But, again, this hurt. Its only saving grace was its relative short time frame (five minutes, perhaps?). I can see it being used by torturers for a longer time, and breaking down the victim fairly easily. But the doc seemed not to really consider the possibility of pain, though perhaps he did just a bit, because he kept telling me we’re almost finished, we’re almost finished, etc.

    Next week, I get the other eye done, but with a different fix. Instead of a laser, they’ll freeze it somehow. If any of you guys have ever dealt with anything similar, and have any advice, would greatly appreciate the new knowledge.

    #111359
    zn
    Moderator

    Have not dealt with anything similar and have no advice.

    All I got is a ton of sympathy and support.

    Oh! And pie.

    Take yer pick.

    #111362
    Billy_T
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    Have not dealt with anything similar and have no advice.

    All I got is a ton of sympathy and support.

    Oh! And pie.

    Take yer pick.

    Thanks, ZN.

    I’m partial to blueberry. Or cherry. Or apple. Or coconut. Um, I’m just partial!!

    #111371
    TSRF
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    Hang in there, Billy.

    If your doctor knew both needed additional work, he should have tried and scheduled it to do both at the same time (unless you had to drive yourself home; then I can see why they wouldn’t do that).

    From a clinical standpoint, I think doctors don’t consider short term pain at all. They are focused on the end result.

    By far and away, the worst surgery I have had was tonsil removal at 25. They cut them out and then basically took a flamethrower to the back of my throat. I couldn’t eat for a week and dropped about 10 lbs.

    On my follow up, at 2 weeks past when I was basically back to normal, I asked my doctor why he didn’t warn me how shitty I was going to feel. He laughed and said, “You may never have brochitis again. Isn’t that worth it?”

    I think that is how the majority of them think.

    #111373
    Billy_T
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    Hang in there, Billy.

    If your doctor knew both needed additional work, he should have tried and scheduled it to do both at the same time (unless you had to drive yourself home; then I can see why they wouldn’t do that).

    From a clinical standpoint, I think doctors don’t consider short term pain at all. They are focused on the end result.

    By far and away, the worst surgery I have had was tonsil removal at 25. They cut them out and then basically took a flamethrower to the back of my throat. I couldn’t eat for a week and dropped about 10 lbs.

    On my follow up, at 2 weeks past when I was basically back to normal, I asked my doctor why he didn’t warn me how shitty I was going to feel. He laughed and said, “You may never have brochitis again. Isn’t that worth it?”

    I think that is how the majority of them think.

    Yeah, I drove myself in for that visit. I think that’s why he didn’t just do the other one. Plus, he said they typically don’t. I’m guessing the “unsaid” part there was “Well, if we screw up and blind you, we can’t blind you in both eyes. One will do.”

    ;>)

    Another pattern I’ve noticed with doctors and their staff — with exceptions, of course. More and more they seem to expect the patient to tell them if they need something else, X, Y or Z. They seem far less proactive about things than in the past.

    For instance, the dilation was strong for both eyes, but they didn’t proactively hand me special sun glasses for the drive home, and I was kinda sorta out of it and forgot to ask. I had my own pair, but they proved woefully insufficient, it being a bright, but cold afternoon. The dilation created a situation almost as bad as the initial surgery. Well, not as bad. A different kind of “assault” on my senses, especially my sinuses.

    I shouldn’t have driven, though I took my time, took back roads, got out and stopped here and there to break up the drive a bit.

    Anyway . . . as a culture I think all of the self-service stuff has infected even the medical field. IMO, we can blame its beginnings on self-service gas stations, and then ATMs . . . from there, it’s been consumers as a part of the workforce ever since.

    The young probably would just say “Ok Boomer” to all the above. But I think things were better when we weren’t expected to be both consumers and laborers in the same space and time.

    #111377
    zn
    Moderator

    I had to drive after my last eye exam. That was of course both eyes. It was awful and sunglasses did not help all that much.

    #111394
    nittany ram
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