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    nittany ram
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    #51554
    wv
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    “Smilodon, dire wolves, and other beasts of prey actually defended the plants – vegetation has no greater friend than a predator. That’s how large carnivores have been keeping the world green for millions of years , and I hope that our species can yield them the space to keep doing so.”

    Saber-toothed Tigers were plant-defenders?

    Never thought of it like that.

    The article didnt make it clear. Were the big tigers pack animals or did
    they hunt alone? If they hunted in packs i would think they could indeed
    bring down the big full-grown Mammoths.

    On Game of Thrones there was clear evidence that Mammoths could be stopped
    by shooting flaming arrows at their rectums. Seems to me, a pack of Smilodons
    with arrows could probably bring down a fullgrown Mammoth. Just speculating, of course.

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    nittany ram
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    The article didnt make it clear. Were the big tigers pack animals or did
    they hunt alone? If they hunted in packs i would think they could indeed
    bring down the big full-grown Mammoths.

    On Game of Thrones there was clear evidence that Mammoths could be stopped
    by shooting flaming arrows at their rectums. Seems to me, a pack of Smilodons
    with arrows could probably bring down a fullgrown Mammoth. Just speculating, of course.

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    There were many species of saber-toothed cats but none of them were closely related to modern big cats, so ‘saber-toothed tiger’ is a misnomer.

    There is no direct evidence for pack hunting in Smilodon but some of their bones have been found with crippling injuries that had partially healed. Hard to explain how a solitary Smilodon with a debilitating injury could survive long enough for the bone to heal unless it was being cared for. For that reason it is believed they were probably pack hunters. But that’s not certain.

    Smilodon’s body was about a foot shorter than a modern lions and it had a bob tail ta boot. So it wasn’t very long. However, it was about twice as heavy as a modern lion. It was a really powerful stocky animal that wasn’t very fast so it probably was an ambush predator. But given it’s hyper-powerful build and saber teeth, it was certainly a very different type of hunter than any modern cat. They’ve tried to determine how or even *if* they used those long fangs when hunting. There was a school of thought that said the fangs would be prone to breaking if the Smilodon bit into a big, struggling animal like a camel or horse let alone a mammoth. So some paleontologists actually thought the teeth were primarily for display. However, now they think that the Smilodon used it’s powerful body to wrestle the prey item to the ground and once subdued, finished it off with its saber teeth. They’ve done studies that show that given the Smilodon’s wide gape, if it bit the underside of a horse’s neck then the saber teeth would be aligned perfectly to penetrate the thick muscle and cut the poor animal’s windpipe. But of course, the prey would have to already be subdued to allow for this. Modern big cats do this as well. They’ll hold the animal down while clenching the animals throat in their mouth, compressing the windpipe until the animal suffocates. Smilodon would have done this much more efficiently because it wasn’t just compressing the windpipe – it was cutting it into several pieces. Death was comparatively quick and painless.

    Stone knapping and tool use isn’t known among any saber-toothed cats and Smilodon most likely couldn’t make fire because its lack of opposable thumbs would prevent it from striking a match.

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    wv
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    Stone knapping and tool use isn’t known among any saber-toothed cats and Smilodon most likely couldn’t make fire because its lack of opposable thumbs would prevent it from striking a match.

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    Yes of course. I meant to say Saber-Toothed Chickens. It was the chickens that hunted in packs, with flaming arrows.

    As every well-read first grader knows, The fossil record suggests,
    many of them wore corsets. Which is just plain weird. Still, one doesnt
    argue with the fossil record.

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    #51561
    nittany ram
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    As every well-read first grader knows, The fossil record suggests,
    many of them wore corsets. Which is just plain weird. Still, one doesnt
    argue with the fossil record.

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    True.

    And apparently they were bipedal.

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    #51570
    bnw
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    No that is the cart before the Przewalski horse. Higher concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere with abundant rainfall and warm weather kept the world green.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

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