Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game.

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    Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game.

    Goff starts at 6:30.

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    #57868
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    my confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.

    this is beginning to be a bunch of bullshit.

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    #57876
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    my confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.

    this is beginning to be a bunch of bullshit.

    I don’t buy the stuff they’re peddling there, IR.

    Just my 2 cents.

    #57884
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    my confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.

    this is beginning to be a bunch of bullshit.

    I don’t buy the stuff they’re peddling there, IR.

    Just my 2 cents.

    well. we’ll see.

    #57896
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    Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game.

    my confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.

    I don’t buy the stuff they’re peddling there, IR.

    well. we’ll see.

    I should be more specific.

    Cosell sez, either (1) he’s a mistake, he’s not that guy, or (2) somehow what they’re teaching is not getting across.

    The reality is, it doesn’t reduce to just those 2 options.

    It’s their mistake that they believe it all reduces to JUST those 2 options. Their entire analysis is tilted by that first mistake.

    Other possibilities (which I happen to believe):

    1. Fisher just takes his time with qbs, and he believes in doing that having done it that way before.

    2. Unlike most teams that pick a qb that high, Rams are not a 1-15 or 3-13 etc. type rebuilding team that earned that pick with their record. They are a more established team than that and traded up. That means 2 things. First, they can afford to be in win-now mode (which is not the same as saying they actually do win. It’s what they;re trying to do). Second, unlike a rebuilding team, they don’t have to just accept the losing that (the vast majority of the time) comes with starting a rookie qb.

    And of course Prescott himself says the Dallas offense is very similar to what he did in college, and Wentz…who has gotten a little shakier btw…was heavily pro-ready coming out. So I don’t necessarily think those examples apply.

    IMO? Fisher will take his time because Fisher takes his time.

    Wentz, qb rating. Games 1-8.

    1. W, qb rating 101.0
    2. W, qb rating 86.6
    3. W, qb rating 125.9
    4. L, qb rating 102.8

    5. L, qb rating 77.7
    6. W, qb rating 52.4
    7. L, qb rating 91.4
    8. L, qb rating 64.5

    #57961
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    yeah i don’t think it boils down to 2 possibilities, but nonetheless i’m starting to think the problem lies with one or the other or possibly even both. now many different factors can go into that. also. i could be wrong and neither is the problem, and there would be all sorts of reasons for that.

    but yeah. now i’m in worry mode until goff gets his shot.

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    #57963
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    Wentz, qb rating. Games 1-8.

    1. W, qb rating 101.0
    2. W, qb rating 86.6
    3. W, qb rating 125.9
    4. L, qb rating 102.8

    5. L, qb rating 77.7
    6. W, qb rating 52.4
    7. L, qb rating 91.4
    8. L, qb rating 64.5

    definitely up and down, but he hasn’t looked in over his head. and he’s learning. goff is 2 years younger and less experienced. so you gotta figure his learning curve is a little steeper.

    #57968
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    Ross & Greg discuss the Chiefs, Jared Goff, & preview the Ravens Browns game.

    my confidence is eroding. if not in goff then in fisher.

    I don’t buy the stuff they’re peddling there, IR.

    well. we’ll see.

    I should be more specific.

    Cosell sez, either (1) he’s a mistake, he’s not that guy, or (2) somehow what they’re teaching is not getting across.

    The reality is, it doesn’t reduce to just those 2 options.

    It’s their mistake that they believe it all reduces to JUST those 2 options. Their entire analysis is tilted by that first mistake.

    Other possibilities (which I happen to believe):

    1. Fisher just takes his time with qbs, and he believes in doing that having done it that way before.

    2. Unlike most teams that pick a qb that high, Rams are not a 1-15 or 3-13 etc. type rebuilding team that earned that pick with their record. They are a more established team than that and traded up. That means 2 things. First, they can afford to be in win-now mode (which is not the same as saying they actually do win. It’s what they;re trying to do). Second, unlike a rebuilding team, they don’t have to just accept the losing that (the vast majority of the time) comes with starting a rookie qb.

    And of course Prescott himself says the Dallas offense is very similar to what he did in college, and Wentz…who has gotten a little shakier btw…was heavily pro-ready coming out. So I don’t necessarily think those examples apply.

    IMO? Fisher will take his time because Fisher takes his time.

    Wentz, qb rating. Games 1-8.

    1. W, qb rating 101.0
    2. W, qb rating 86.6
    3. W, qb rating 125.9
    4. L, qb rating 102.8

    5. L, qb rating 77.7
    6. W, qb rating 52.4
    7. L, qb rating 91.4
    8. L, qb rating 64.5

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    Yeah, i agree with all that.

    I think Fisher just mainly has a patient approach to a lot of things.

    And to me, btw, without a running game, I dont know what Goff could
    do anyway.

    I’m fine with Goff sitting out almost all the season btw. I do think he
    should start a coupla games though near the end. I just think it would help
    him get ready for next year.

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    #57979
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    i would want goff starting half this season. now maybe he’s not ready to start. and if that’s the case then that worries me.

    but maybe fisher is a little more conservative. or maybe i’m too impatient. or they’re just different approaches.

    but still. i’d like to see him get at least 8 games.

    and not cuz i think he’d make a difference but to start preparing for next year.

    #58094
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    glazer just reported that fisher is considering starting goff NEXT week depending on how they do today.

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